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What do you guys think the reason is LISA not reaching a bigger following yet?
I mean, Undertale was a great Indie game too, but really LISA deserved just as much attention, if not more, than Undertale.
It really deserves more acclaim.
>>324184297
LISA didn't appeal to the genderfluid demikinsexuals of Tumblr. Or the Homostuck crowd.
>>324184297
It's not as well made as Undertale.
>>324184297
What's more well known Harry Potter or El Topo?
Undertale's humor doesn't offend
I'm starting to really fucking get sick of the Lisa fanbase right now.
Bunch of whiny cunts.
>>324184297
meme game
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The story is creepy and depressing, it's only goal is to make you feel crappy and it does a great job at it. Undertale has sad stuff in it but it's optimistic, "it fills you with determination". People like to feel good, so the games with happy endings are liked by more people, compared to LISA where everyone dies and everyone has problems.
LISA's idea of funny is climbing up a rope for 2 minutes to see a middle finger, undertales idea of funny is petting a dog and confusing it.
They both have pretty damn good soundtracks though, I'd give the edge to LISA there though since it sounds a lot more varied and hits better moods.
I guess the last point is that you actually kinda have to piece together the story of LISA, lots of critical information for the story is hidden in different endings or up to the player to put together. Undertale hands you the story on a silver platter, it's easy to digest and requires no discussion
>>324184768
This.
>>324184768
First reply. Best reply.
>>324184297
no reach cuz no retro
>>324185449
i agree with you EXCEPT:
>I guess the last point is that you actually kinda have to piece together the story of LISA, lots of critical information for the story is hidden in different endings or up to the player to put together. Undertale hands you the story on a silver platter, it's easy to digest and requires no discussion
that's not true. a ton of backstory is in the pacifist and genociide routes,
>>324184297
the gameplay's really boring
>>324184768
>muh memegame is superior to your memegame xd xd xd
1. Word of mouth, its not talked about enough
2. It hasnt been played by Big youtubers
3. Bad marketing, I dont even know what the fuck its gameplay is like, is it an RPG?
>>324184297
>difficult
>dark
>lousy combat
>difficult
>female underrepresentation
>traditional male values
>difficult
>no Homestuck music
>difficult
lisa has three games instead of one and makes you feel sad instead of happy.
just lack of mass appeal, also less gay approach to actual gay
birdie best bro
>>324185585
And there's even less backstory to discuss in LISA since The Joyful just throws the answers at you in the most unceremonious, unsatisfactory way. Yado's just a mad scientist. Lisa fucked up Buzzo. Everything else was answered in Painful. Everyone's fucked forever. The end.
>>324184297
Because it has shit gameplay and isn't fun to play and everyone who would like it would rather play Earthbound
Furries.
Homosuck fans.
>>324185816
>actual gay
As opposed to... fake gay?
>>324185925
>>324185680
Except Undermeme is game that actually contains memes. Lisa isn't.
>>324185680
tumblr fag spotted
>>324185938
You don't understand, there's a whole spectrum of gay.
25% gay
50% gay
75% gay
And the dreaded
FULL GAY
Remember when Dragon Age Inquisition had the first FULLY GAY character? I do.
(Just google it and have a laugh)
FULLY
GAY
>>324184297
Undertale was a light hearted humor game based around the meta of game mechanics, even with it's genocide route.
LISA is a more dark humored (but still silly) game that plays its story straight. That story is about a guy in a post apocalyptic world trying to prevent an 11 year old girl from being used for breedingand he's in the wrong for doing so.
>>324185938
>As opposed to... fake gay?
Yes. The men in LISA fuck dudes in wigs because there are no women left on Earth, not because they're gay. It was meant to show that the world is a shitty, miserable place, not to go "Look at how progressive I am with my LGBTQABC123KFC characters."
>>324185785
WORK HARDER FLABBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M
SOUP'S
>>324186070
>Lisa isn't
wrong
>>324184297
2 reasons I can think of
1. People don't like dark humor
2. It can get really backtrack heavy, and a lot of people are sick of turn based gameplay.
>>324186070
>Lisa isn't.
It literally has earthbound memes in it
>>324184297
lisa didnt pander to juvenile concepts and themes, went dark as shit about suicide
>>324186131
>>324186145
Sometimes I forget how retarded SJWs can be.
>>324186240
Off
>>324186319
>i never played undertale but i must shitpost about it
If LISA was any good you could talk about it without bringing up other games
>>324186136
Well that last part is up to opinion. Really, everyone is fucked up in some way or another in this world to Buddy.
They explain it more in Joyful, but in some way or form EVERYONE both Rando and Brad both want to use them because it will make them feel needed.
Painful should have multiple story paths depending if you take Joy or not, if you managed to kill Buzzo or not and if you spared Sticky. The game prizes itself on the element of choice but there is none: just one ending despite what people say and additional dialogue *without* video depending if you didn't take Joy. Every choice you make matters nothing, it's all blamed on "Brad is tripping on drugs lmao".
Joyful has interesting new gameplay mechanics but that's it. The story is atrocious and unneeded and Buddy was turned on the worst character in the entire franchise. In my opinion, it should be a prequel about Rando rising in power, perhaps fighting the same warlords present in the game to become the major army we see on Painful.
>>324186240
THE STEW IS UP DARLING XD
I LOVE THIS MEME
>>324186307
Such as?
>>324186483
>The game prizes itself on the element of choice
No it doesn't.
>>324186319
>juvenile concepts and themes
>dark as shit about suicide
>not juvenile concept or theme
THE
EDGE
Combat sucks and the difficulty is ramped up quite a bit, they obviously want you to die
its easy to get lost and head into an area youre really not suppose to and get wrecked
theres some mechanics some people would find cheap like resting at a camp is dangerous (get poison, kidnapped party member, stolen items) and losing a fight and losing all your mags.
Losing party members sucks when you actually like them and put work into them.
I really liked the story though, enough for me to finish it.
>>324186413
I will admit that's a pretty common and sad argument so far in these responses.
I mentioned Undertale not to bash it, but in more of confusion on why it god more attention than LISA.
But I guess that backfired.
>>324186307
>all references are memes
>because I'm an idiot
>>324186643
REDDITTTTT
>>324186413
Nigga good luck finding a single PC game thread that doesn't have Undertale shitposting in it.
It's the newest "never ever" tier meme. LISA threads get hit exceptionally hard since they both attempted to do the same thing.
>>324186483
>The game prizes itself on the element of choice
No?
>>324186590
It was vastly marketed on the concept.
>"hurr hard choices"
>"durr sacrifice"
>"muh moral compass"
Every review online at the time it was hot in a small greentext.
>>324186619
Yeah dude, teens totally commit suicide more than working adults!
>>324186643
So basically your claim is that: it's a game....
with challenges and difficulty. I mean, isn't that the point?
>>324186912
It's a bad game
Vampire Rain is also a game that's difficult but it's a also shitty because of that
>>324186715
LISA threads get hit hard because 75% of the time the OP contains the words "Undertale" and proposes people to talk why LISA is superior to it instead of actually talking about LISA as an isolate game.
/v/ is retarded and you will never be able to have a discussion uninterupted by shitflingers, so do the world a favor and ignore/report the bait.
>>324186643
Although this is true, Undertale didn't do anything exceptional with it's gameplay either.
LISA had cheap difficulty, Undertale was easy and didn't punish you at all for failure.And don't you try and argue Undertale had hard moments, it's peak difficulty was two bosses on the route no one takes.
>>324185680
i love watching fight between fans of memegame and memegame
because my memegame is the best
>>324186643
>Losing party members sucks when you actually like them and put work into them.
but for the most part the game gives you a choice, either sacrifice something yourself or a party member.
The only time it's complete bullshit is during the Russian Roulette part, since it's complete RNG and can fuck you over easily. The first playthrough i had, i lost literally every one of my party members. But the second time around i made it through without losing a single one.
>>324186746
>>324186590
Straight from the biggest paragraph on store page:
>Players will learn what kind of person they are by being FORCED to make choices. These choices permanently effect the game play. If you want to save a party member from death, you will have to sacrifice the strength of your character. Whether it's taking a beating for them, or chopping off limbs, or some other inhuman way. You will learn that in this world being selfish and heartless is the only way to survive...
>>324186483
That does sound like an interesting idea, but really, I do hate what Buddy did, but I do not blame her.
I would probably be an edgelord too if I went through all that shit.
>>324187018
They never mentioned Undertale in their post
>>324184949
>offend
Offend who? babies who cant control their emotions?
>>324186352
What the fuck are you even talking about? How in the absolute shit was my post remotely SJW, you fucking idiot?
>>324185785
I was thinking...When I make my own game it shouldnt be to hard, difficulty pushes people away
If I want it to get big then I would have to make it so that you can win without getting a single game over
This makes me sad because this is how you sell, at the cost of a challenge
>>324187076
Joy mutants have a high chance of permanently killing your party member.
Most people just reset and load the save though.
>>324187035
Is that Nuclear Throne? I've heard about it, but never played it. Sorta reminds me of Hotline Miami .
Why does every single thread about LISA have to start off with some Undertale baiting first?
Whose betrayal hurt you the most /v/? Besides based hintmaster, I'd say the luchador.
>>324187018
Undertale's mechanics change with every bossfight into something unique and memorable. Like, the mob fights might be generic as fuck, but when it comes to bosses, Undertale goes from bullet-hell to platformer to shooter and then combines those elements into something great.
Lisa is just the default RPG maker battle system with the only thing "unique" being Cyberdwarf-esque dial-a-combos.
>>324187281
It's way more difficult to do that in pain mode, unless your Autistic like me and grind for hours till every character is like level 45.
>>324187236
The concept of difficulty levels exists for a reason.
>>324187236
how about don't chase the money and make whatever you want to fucking make
>>324187309
>Why does every single thread about LISA have to start off with some Undertale baiting first?
Because the game has proven itself to be unable to stand on it's own. If Undertale didn't exist it'd just get compared to something else
They aren't even that comparable
>>324187445
Yes, the gamplay was varied, but was it challenging? No.
>>324186263
Backer award character. Blame him.
Not enough furbait. Sex sells, kiddies.
I started the game and put up with the 5 min mysterious dialog intro, and after that just walked right and the game didn't recognize i was pressing up to climb a ladder at the same time that i was pressing right so i just fell off a cliff, and the game didn't save shit, it was game over.
shift+del'd the games folder
>>324187573
So what? LISA isn't challenging either it's just punishing and cheap. It's like comparing SMT IV to Soul Hackers or Strange Journey, SMT IV isn't really a hard game it's "boy I hope this enemy doesn't just instantly game over me because of RNG"
>>324187224
>trying to reason with anime shitposters
>>324187565
More like the game was only ever popular with /v/ and now that it's not /v/'s flavor of the month the only way to keep it relevant is shitposting.
OP should have known better than to namedrop Undertale, mentioning that game on /v/ always attracts retards.
And to make it worse, it only attracts the retards who claim to hate the game, so you get nothing but shitposting.
>>324187445
True, the battlesystem may not be revolutionary, but really I don't care about that. I just found it fun how crazy all the moves were and the uniqueness of all the moves used by each character.
How could you not like THE HOTTEST DANCE!?
The only complaint I had (well more of an annoyance) was the battlesystem was characters addicted to joy, and they were not fun to play with at all (excluding Brad)
>>324186131
my sides are in orbit anon
danke
>>324187579
>putting memes in your game invalidates it if people pay you money to put them there
>>324187719
That was my point, faggot. Undertale is easy, LISA is cheap.
>>324187838
>How could you not like THE HOTTEST DANCE!?
I'm not 12
Honestly, because it's clunky as shit. I love Lisa, but the game is rough around every edge. You just look past it because of its perverse charms.
![moving-the-goalposts-300x2402[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DhUBhsF.jpg "moving-the-goalposts-300x2402[1].jpg")
>>324187579
>>324187309
>Terry
>based
He still hits you when you have to fight your party members at the end. Shocklord is the only character that doesn't, and he's the best for that.
>>324187573
But it DID do something exceptional with its gameplay, the point you were arguing against in your own post. It employed various, ever-changing mechanics to its combat that no other RPG has done, while LISA is the barebones default RPG Maker combat system.
Lisa isn't hard, either. The most difficult moments come from RNG instant-deaths. Even in The Joyful, an expansion banking solely on the combat, all you had to do was flash and spam a single knife lunge attack throughout the entire game, occasionally popping a Joy when you're sick of doing low damage.
>>324187965
Oh fuck you, that's like saying So Sorry was Toby's decision.
>>324187309
Lisa doesn't have enough meme power to attract people here, while Undertale does. That's today's /v/: memes and shitposting. Want to talk about LISA? go to /indie/.
>>324187193
Undertale panders to those kinds of people
>>324184297
>I was supposed to be her light. Instead, I let her pull me into the darkness
Dingaling why
>>324187885
Well ya don't have to be so jaded about it man.
>>324188029
So Sorry is also almost impossible to find in the game and Toby made it as far from the creator's intentions as possible
>>324184297
oppressive atmosphere that takes a certain type of person to appeal to
an upbeat story with a happy ending sells metter than
LISA
I like both, but Undertale was sadly destined to do better
>>324188113
Because fuck us
>>324188180
...And what were his intentions?
>>324184297
It will. With time.
>>324188313
>>324188029
the point is that both games are memegames if your definition of a memegame is that the game contains memes.
the absolute worst thing in these threads is when people bring up Undertale and dismisses it as a le quirky xD meme game while completely dismissing that LISA too has memes, earthbound references and other general randumb shit.
>>324188192
Good point, it's sad but true.
At least it ended.... kinda happy sort in the DLC
>>324186029
>hurr i can beet da truth with muh reaction images
>LISA DOESN'T HAVE MEMES
>but it does have Mr. Fartgas Icky-Pooey and his boyfriend with a psychology degree as characters you're forced to interact with
>>324188013
A turn based battle system with a bullet hell dodge mechanic isn't revolutionary. Especially if it's easy, and no, the way it changes with boss fights isn't that impressive.
I never said Lisa was revolutionary either, what won it over for me was the atmosphere and to a lesser extent the story. I would argue that Lisa had harder moments than Undertale. The first joy mutant is miles harder than Toriel.
>>324187125
>Players will learn what kind of person they are by being FORCED to make choices. These choices permanently effect the game play. If you want to save a party member from death, you will have to sacrifice the strength of your character. Whether it's taking a beating for them, or chopping off limbs, or some other inhuman way. You will learn that in this world being selfish and heartless is the only way to survive...
>These choices permanently effect the game play
>gameplay
Wauv anon, it's like you're actually illiterate or don't know what argument you're making
>>324188491
I think you can jump over them.
>>324188320
It's his furry self insert fetish character called a butterdragon
Toby hid the fight so well that you can only find it on a specific day and nobody would ever run into it unless they knew it was there and how to get to it
Compare it to something like >>324188491
>>324186240
Who the fuck do you think you are
>>324188320
I dunno, to release a totally different game than the one that came out? The most bitter criticism I hear and give about undertale is that Toby lied through his fucking teeth for the whole development cycle
>>324188482
>>324184297
>>324186164
>>324186443
>>324186662
>>324186912
>>324187135
>>324187291
>>324187838
>>324188117
>>324188313
>>324188425
>>324188575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
You know what? Everything is a goddamn meme.
Lets just fucking accept that and be done with it.
I hate you all.
>>324188575
But it's a very incovenient and long turn around.
>>324188625
Don't games have references to real people all the time?
>>324188491
You can completely ignore them by using the bike to jump over them.
>>324188491
I've played LISA before I saw TBFP, and those two didn't stand out at all.
>>324188418
Lisa is more Earthbound than Undertale.
>>324188491
>people are memes
It's like you're retarded.
>>324188754
nah
>>324188491
How have I not heard them talk about it?
I only know Wollie has played it
>>324188524
I didn't say revolutionary. You didn't say revolutionary. The word used was "exceptional". Definition: Unusual. Not typical. Undertale's battle system is "exceptional". Undertale's battle system isn't typical, while LISA is the most typical RPG battle system ever implemented. Undertale is unique in its mechanics, whereas LISA is not. Whether Undertale's combat is "revolutionary" is completely up to the future if people want to start copying Undertale's battle system.
Nail your goddamn goal posts down and stop fucking moving them.
>>324188548
Just below that on the store page:
>- Ruthless choices that permanently effect towns, characters, life...
>>324188767
Not self insert avatars of youtube celebrities
>>324188760
Well that's kinda true.
meme
noun
"an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation."
Which are your favourite Painful/Joyful bosses?
I thought "memegame" is a game that got famous through viral exposition, even if it sucks, like Slender or that bike game that was famous a while ago.
>>324188981
This is a fact. Earthbound had no memorable characters, everyone was a Mary Sue. The thing that made it memorable was the little substories it told and the atmsophere of the game.
Undertale is more Comparable to Mother3. Reliance on characters and story over gameplay and atmosphere.
>>324188491
Who?
>>324189202
Good point, but really, I don't mind.
>Ruthless choices that permanently effect towns, characters, life.
Unless the store page specifically mentions your choices affecting the story, which is what you complained about, you're still wrong.
>>324189241
My point is everyone should stop using the term "meme" all the time. It makes all discussions turn to shit.
>>324189506
meant for
>>324189189
>>324189506
How is permanently affecting towns, characters and life not affecting the story?
If the choices don't matter, why even advertise them?
>>324189308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GmZXasCoU0&list=PL73OXlIRDW5Jn1TGUWsq3m-DDh1yjLHut&index=3
"Hey, kid. I didn't get on that list by being a Goddamn pussy. I'm #2 in the world. You want my spot? Try and take it, bitch."
―Sindy Gallows
>>324189323
It doesn't mean anything, people have been using "meme" to mean "thing I don't like" for years
I feel good not knowing any of these "gamers", youtubers, e-celebs referenced on Lisa and sad that so many seem to know them. Didn't know any of these faggots were famous until I opened /v/ after finishing the game, which was a good thing since I'd be angry all the time seeing attention-whores getting attention.
The only references I got on Painful were "Praise the Sun" and "I like big butts, they don't lie", none of which are particularly bothersome.
>>324189326
>Mother3. Reliance on characters and story over gameplay and atmosphere.
Mother3 had way more compelling gameplay than the snoozefest that was Earthbound though. EB is genuinely a chore to play though, M3 on the other hand is tolerable even during the more tedious and grindy sections because of the rhythmic combo system.
>>324189189
Holy semantics Batman!
>>324189189
I was more refering to this definition of Exceptional:
>unusually excellent; superior.
I was referring to the fact that Undertale's gamplay was as challenging and fun as baking a potato in a microwave. Considering I've played better games with better gameplay, I wouldn't really call Undertale's gamplay "exceptional". Unique and unsual? Maybe, exceptional and excellent? No.
Now stop being a faggot and stop nitpicking people's word choices.
>>324188754
>giving him attention
>mistaking tripfag with namefagging
>>324189679
>permanently affecting towns, characters and life
Your choices do affect characters, and towns. It never stated to which degree, nor that it was in relation to the story itself, the "life" part is purposefully left up to interpretation.
>>324189696
Joyful had the best bosses. Shame about everything else.
>>324184297
i played around two hours, the open worldish gameplay didn't appeal to me enough to continue, the combat was not fun fso i didn't want to bother exploring anymore.
Played undertale around october, didn't know or it wasn't that popular yet.
I became aware of both games because of you guys.
>>324189308
I liked Lardy for his Dual Wielded AK47s and he felt like a nice ending to the Hernandez saga.
As mediocre as Joyful was it had a lot of really good bosses.
>>324189326
No memorable characters? Not Andonuts or Brick Road? Or Pokey? The Runaway Five? Frank?
Frank got just about as much exposure as the spider girl in Undertale did.
>>324189772
I'm not saying it didn't have improved gameplay, but I am saying it took the emphasis off gameplay and put it more onto progressing the story.
>>324189326
>Mary Sue
HO. LY. FUCKING. SHIT.
STOP. JUST FUCKING STOP WITH YOUR BUZZWORDS WHICH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>>324184297
Not really a game to appeal that widely to reach that height.
Comparisons to undertale aren't invalid but undertale did have a larger appeal and a more palatable story, so the comparison isn't really a 1:1 thing.
I like Lisa a lot better but it was certainly very rough around the edges both thematically and gameplay wise, Undertale was super polished.
Looking forward to the next projects of both devs from the two games.
>>324184949
Are you the same person who always brings that film into these threads?I really don't see the comparison, having seen the film.Film's interesting though, really liked the concept but it's second half is all lover the place, ending was awesome though.
>>324184297
>What do you guys think the reason is LISA not reaching a bigger following yet?
the game isn't fun to pay. the pace is absolutely trudging and the combat just isn't enjoyable whatsoever.
>>324190385
Name me one character trait Paula had other than being "the girl"
Or Jeff had other than being "the smart one"
Or Poo being "the foreign guy"
>>324190404
I can't wait for that too!
Although LISA affected me more than Undertale I too can't wait to see what these devs do next.
>>324190181
>Implying anyone could hate this glorious creation
>>324190527
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TROPE BOILS DOWN TO YOU UTTER RETARD.
>>324184297
The shitty artstyle, shitty world, shitty music, shitty gameplay. Undertale isn't any better but LISA is shit.
>>324190527
Absolute imbecile
>>324190624
Sissel?
>>324184297Undertale got popular because it had a positive message to it and was generally lighthearted.LISA is a silly game but with a lot of dark tones and a lot of things set in place to make the player feel uncomfortable and unhappy. It is also pessimistic and bleakPeople did not default to Genocide route for Undertale
I like both but this is a big part in why LISA is not as popular.
>>324190527
>i will post again to reinforce the truth that i don't know what the term means
>>324190969
Anyone would know that none of these things are true if they actually played the game.
324184297
shut the f**k up tripf*g
>>324190527
Nigger you have no fucking idea what you're saying.
What you're saying is "stock character" not "mary sue" you fucking mongoloid.
>>324191478
nah
>>324191478
>doesn't know how to reply properly
>censors his words
Are you retarded? Or underage?
>>324191608
falling for bait this obvious
Garth is still the worst backer character, literally and figuratively. Do not look up his Tumblr if you value your sanity.
Where can I find this game to pirate?
I can only find the dlc
>>324192198
Just looked it up, can confirm.
Kinky shit. Fat, ugly, hairy. Don't go in there.
>>324184297
Jesus, fuck off.
You're literally going the same road Undertale did.
Just fucking stop.
>>324188313
>Using the truck to get back down from there
Thanks Dingaling
>>324192789
You're not going to find The Painful unless you go hunting off-site. Just buy The Painful and watch The Joyful on yotube
>>324193030
>hates the thread
>Bumps it
Always brings mejoy
>>324193030
>Grrr stop talking about video games!
Too weird for most people. Though I fucking love it.
>>324193030I don't see 6+ Lisa threads a day. At most 1 every day if not every other day.
>>324186643
Funny because everything you said sounds like good things to me.
>>324186643
So... you didn't like it because it was difficult?
>>324189189
>It uses mediocre bullet hell mechanics
>Exceptional
>>324193227
>>324193294
You, faggots, seem not to understand.
I like Lisa and that's exact fucking reason why I tell you to stop creating those pointless threads daily.
Everything has already been discussed to death, all that's left
>*put the name of a charcter* did nothing wrong
> soup's on
>edgy budy is edgy
It doesn't worth creating a thread and repeating the fate of undertale
>>324192198
I regret doing that, I wish I knew before
>>324193030
nah
>>324193856
Thank you for sharing anon. That was really nice of you.
>>324193856
>Trying to control the shitpost on /v/
That's already a lost battle, anon.
>>324193370
But there's absolutely no topic od discussion this thread my as well be a daily general which doesn't have place on /v/. There's an indi thread on /vg/ which is literally the same, add some other games and more OC. Go there and talk as much as you want. Otherwise you will only make things worse for yourselves, and for /v/ as well.
>>324185861
Why is Buddy brown there? She's Dr Yado's kid, she'd be way more pale.
>>324194219
>worse for yourselves
Not really, but you are welcome to think so.
>and for /v/ as well.
Most of /v/ doesn't give a fuck, we're just "those guys that discuss that one weird game that's similar to Undermeme and Earthbound."
>>324190153
It was incredible fighting Gary, hearing one of the best songs in either game up to that point, then less than 5 minutes later fighting Fardy and hearing a song that was even better somehow.
>>324194219
A general thread wouldn't survive and you know it. I enjoy an occasional Lisa thread, so fucking kill yourself or post Soup memes you dumb faggot .
>>324194165
I would submit you to roulette until you shot yourself.
>>324190153
"I'm not fucking around!"
>mfw
>>324194461
>>324194461
>le ebin self-terminate meme xDDDD
That's cheap and you know it, anon. You're only making yourself look like a retard.
>>324194461
>A general thread wouldn't survive and you know it
It already fucking does, you fucking moron. it's called indie or something like this. The same content but in the place it's supposed to be. But yeah, keep going like retard you are, I don't really care anymore.
>>324194589
>>324184297
Generic gameplay, poop music
>>324194882
Jesus you are fucking stupid. I'm not even going to dignify this with any meaningful response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pIHSX_E8Tw
>>324195101
What else whould I expect of such a moran?
>>324195187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkwXKL0F9Fg
>>324195101
>"Jesus you are fucking stupid"
>"Not going to dignify you with a response"
>Posts a response anyways
>With shitty music to boot
>>324195429
Saddle up. It's time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFh5Duj4PJ8
>>324195101
So instead of dignifying it with a meaningful response, you are going to respond in a retarded way as usual?
>>324184297
maybe because you haven't shilled it enough on /v/
>>324195536
>Still posting bad music from his memegame
>>324184297
Too much exposition
I want to play a game not watch a pixel movie
I couldn't even get through the beginning because it bored me to shit
>>324195583
>>324195680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsvAYmkftwY
This could be one reason: the soundtrack of LISA, albeit very unique and experimental, is not attractive to most people. Only a few of the songs are normal enough for the standard person.
>>324195994
Hmm, that raises an idea...
Subject people to increasingly stranger music until they give up, putting up monetary incentive based on how far they take it.
>Throw in the entire vocal adaptation of My Immortal in the middle of several Lisa songs
>>324196264
What is your hypothesis for that?
>>324196503
The average person would give up about 1/3 through My Immortal, with an upper limit around white noise dispersed with sounds of anacondas striking and a lower limit of first Lisa song.
And also,
>The final set is voter's choice in a thread on /mu/
>>324195994
The song are really hit-or-miss. As a whole they're not as consistently good or solid as Undertale's OST, but the weird shit much more interesting.
Then again, for everyone of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlXJB6ZxxU&index=43&list=PLzjxg51LpxEHKl778z5kCsxr66NIuGkQx
You get one of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyOCdt1mEo&index=37&list=PLzjxg51LpxEHKl778z5kCsxr66NIuGkQx
>>324184297
>start doing the hardest difficulty
>give up items for hint guy
>see this guy
>see 4 guys in front of him
>die in 2 rounds
I'll come back to this later...
>>324196934Terry isn't worth it in Pain mode.
>>324197034
I saved Terry and finished painful mode. The hardest part was the save points because I couldn't stop walking off cliffs halfway through the game.
>>324189326
Mother 3 is the worst game in the series, do you have brain damage?
>>324187035
All 3 are good the fanbases vary though
Undertale's fanbase is as bad if not worse than Sonic's
LISA's is half shit half good, but the majority of the good people have moved on by now.
Nuclear Throne's is pretty good if you can excuse everyone telling you to git gud or dodge if your shit at the gameOf course Risk of Rain's Fanbase is the best though
>>324197135
>The hardest part was the save points because I couldn't stop walking off cliffs halfway through the game.
I swear to god they have magnets or something
>>324197135
Objectively speaking, Terry is one of the worst characters in the game. Still, using Terry on pain mode feels like how the story was canonically supposed to go, and I prefer it.
>>324197171
It has been established that I do.Even though I like Mother 2 more
>>324191012
Fuck now i can't unsee that
>>324184297
Undertale's unprecedented acclaim is the exception, not the rule. LISA is still more popular and more sucussful than the vast majority of indie games.
>>324186643
all of the above is just retarded, ive finish both pain and normal, and only in pain does stuff get actually unfair, and thats the fucking point
also some farming deletes this problem, and if u need to farm on normal u just fucking suck at the game
>>324184297
The theme of Lisa is enjoyed by a niche crowd, even the way people talk has a certain feel to it.
Undertale has a touchy feely way of playing and an edgy way so it reaches 2 crowds
Lisa is pretty generic, only thing of note is it has some good tracks.
Undertale actually has interesting stuff in it.
>>324186263
>>324187854
>>324187965
That's pretty much a Dark Souls reference though, not a straight up meme.
>>324200353
>furries and memes
>Interesting
>RPG where every choice you make has an real affect and deep plot
>Generic
I tried to pirate but couldn't even find it. Please someone gift it to me on steam.
www.steamcommunity.com/id/scattass/
>>324200909
>TFW gifted 2 copies of Lisa Complete over Christmas sale
>Neither has played it yet
>>324200353
>lisa's first game was exploring the mind of a raped girl who couldnt unsee her rapist akaher dad
>painfull was going through a long road of hard decisions in a post apocalypse game where no women are alive anymore and u dont want ur daughter raped
>joyfull... ehh there ur point makes some sense
>undertales whole point was "dont kill people cus they have value" and the story was worth by nothing more than steriotyped characters who dont really match, but are still enjoyable and the pacifist ending makes no actual sense in any way
hey i like both games almost equally, but saying undertale is more interesting is stupid
>>324184297
Lisa is much more gritty and more about the relationships of a handful of, by some measures, unlikable characters while Undertale is more about player choices/consequences with tropetastic, non-heteronormative characters.
>>324201053
You know where I can pirate it?
>>324190624
Yomiel you dumb fuck
>>324200353
LISA is certainly not generic. Its story was very deep and dark while still managing to be humorous. Your choices actually have a massive impact on not only the story, but the gameplay mechanics as well.
>>324184297
Just unlocked poop guy
kek
>>324184297
There are some truly fantastic songs in LISA but you can kind of tell they're the guys first songs and nothing really sticks like UT's.
Combat is good, but nothing too new or interesting. Especially in Joyful. Undertale outside 2 bosses is never really out to kill you but the combat mechanics are things that haven't really been done before.
One is really dark and in Joyful just straight up edgelord material while Undertale is a lot softer for the most part.
There's more like platforming and the like being dumb in LISA but ultimately Undertale is just better made like it or not. They're both fun and I don't mind suggesting LISA to friends but if I had to pick one or another it would be UT.
>>324200729
>lisa
>every choice you make has a real effect
>undertale's doesn't
shiggy diggy my niggy
>>324186319
One of the characters in undertale literally commits suicide and another is so apathetic he'll just watch his brother die
>>324188180
You're a idiot, apparently So Sorry is made exactly how the guy wanted and it was the guys request that he get put out of the way and hidden because he didn't want to ruin the mood or whatever.
