Remember the era when video games were carefree fun and didn't pride themselves on becoming an edgy grim cinematic story?
It seems like so long ago
Those games still exist.
Why pine for new games that will never invoke the same feelings you had as a kid, when you can just pick up the old ones and relive your childhood joys?
>>324174850
>jak
>not edgy as fuck
?
>>324175098
It didn't get edgy until the third one
Bayonetta 2 was like a year ago
also Jak is the grimdark poster boy
>>324174987
Because we want them to still be relevant and relatable as well as show the video games aren't all serious business, kid
I only ever managed to play the first Jak, I couldn't get into the second one at all.
Like the other two franchises though.
We'll get a new Sly title eventually and R&C is already nearly finished. Those times can come back if you use your money.
>>324175451
And not to mention Yooka-Laylee, if this is about 3D platformers or something.
>>324175325
There's still tons of fun, non-serious games being made tho
>>324175098
Jak was a hammy type of edgy, and not as bad as a lot of other games that tried playing it straight.
>>324174850
just become a nintoddler
There is a game with these 3 togheter, rigth?
>>324175134
>Generic Ratchet game: Reboot Edition
This series is absolute shit since it abandoned PS2
>>324175821
Playstation Move Heroes.
>>324175956
Thanks m8. Gonna look it up. Is it any good?
>>324175919
except you know the best two ratchet games tools of destruction and a crack in time being on the ps3
>>324175919
That is 100% correct. Which is exactly the reason why a new start is what is needed.
>>324175617
Not even nearly enough to balance out all grim dark, super cereal shit we been getting
>>324174850
>that period when edgy games were all the rage
>that period after with all the gangster/rap culture games
It's like opening up a photo album and seeing a picture of yourself dressed as Sonic doing his 'run thing'.
>>324176054
>Playstation Move
For real though I never played it, but I think it was made by Nihilistic and was suppose to be real bad.
>>324175956
Forget it, I thougt the "move" on title had nothing to do with Playstation Move. Naive and retarded from my part, I know.
>>324176162
I didn't like ToD, was way short and really underwhelming when i beat the last boss 1st try.
I enjoy the uncharted games but fuck naughty dog for thinking they are so above doing a cartoony game now. What a bunch of faggots
>>324175325
>>324176329
I for one don't want mascot 3D platformers to become relevant again. They'd be targeted towards either the braindead ADD-ridden smartphone audience or the easily excitable nostalgic gamer audience, and be a soulless vapid cashgrab either way.
I'd want more HD remasters if anything. Legend of Kay got an anniversary remaster for some reason and it was the best news of 2015 for me.
There are still tons of vidya out now that aren't serious and grimdark. You'll just have to look harder for them.
>>324176162
The best two Ratchet games are the first one and Going Commando (Up your arsenal is fantastic too)
I can admit Tools of Destruction is kind of a fun game, but a crack in time is garbage. Nefarious is the best villain in the entire franchise, but overall only Clank parts were good. Ratchet parts were shitty action levels with Sly tier cutscenes.
>>324176162
Going Commando was literal perfection. Up Your Arsenal was just as good cuck.
>>324174850
Ratchet games always had a focus on narrative and their humor always ressembled that of movies (so it's fitting that they're actually getting a feature film). And lmao at Jak, did you play Jak "Ow the Edge" II aka GTA with Tess tits by any chance? Can't talk about sly cause I know nothing about that series but I'd bet it will also get a game with the (probably delayed) movie
>>324175098
>edgy
the game is full of jokes.
the make fun of the goofy dance number and the fact that jak didn´t talk during jak 1 in the very first mission.
no other game has ever managed to make me laugh that hard
>>324176820
>first
>best
>>324176868
I feel the exact opposite. Up Your Arsenal is in my top 10 games ever. Going Commando is like a straight 9.5/10 though
>>324176162
ToD wasn't that great. ACiT, while amazing, is still inferior to 2 and 3 in many respects.
>>324176320
This isn't really a new start, though. If anything, it's going to retcon the first game into a more Polaris-friendly retelling, complete with Grummelnet meme weapons and those fucking Fongoids.
More generally, the new game looks like it's going to be a bigger, more polished ITN. It does seem to share many of its downsides- loads of handholding, people talking at all times, linear "cinematic" level design, Grummelnet weapons, the works. Still too early to just write it off as another mediocre entry, but it doesn't look too hot either.
if games aren't uber realistic or complete indie trash, they aren't allowed in 2016
get with the program nerds
>>324174850
When was the last time anyone played Jak and Daxter? Ratchet and Sly Cooper are still fun and enjoyable even to this day but Jak is just so bad.
>>324176478
>that period when edgy games were all the rage
>that period after with all the gangster/rap culture games
I want that period of underground, urban, futuristic techno Matrix-esque shit to come back. It had such a weird charm.
>>324177101
UYA is like a .1 below GC for me. They might be technically equal for me, but there only real difference is that I played GC far more than UYA and have more of a memory of it.
>>324175098
The first game wasn't edgy at all. Jak 2 and 3 go way too edgy though.
Ratchet was never really edgy. Deadlocked/Gladiator went in that direction but it at least kept a good sense of humour so it didn't seem that grim.
Jak 2 was the best out of any of those three series
>>324174987
Because I want something new. Not just to experience the same thing I already have 1000 times over
>>324177492
Hahahahahaha
>>324177328
Jak & Daxter was a fine game. Jak II is only popular among kids who couldn't play GTA; this was the closest they could get to enjoying GTA.
Jak 3 was a fine game. It had more platforming than gunplay and it had a campy sense of humor despite the overarching plot about THE DARK MAKERS
>>324177148
>Linear level design
>Pokitaru is 1:1 with the original
>Gaspar has an entire new area slapped onto it off the beaten path
>>324174850
Yeah, jak left that room after game one.
>>324177723
I found that Jak 2 had more platforming than Jak 3. When I played it all I got was a bunch of driving in the desert and shitty arena combat.
>>324177021
>good and actually fun characters
>good story
>good villain
>planets that feel different but in a way connected to each other thanks to the story
C´mon, I've played all of the games but the first one has this magic atmosphere that none of the sequels managed to get.
PS3 games are just generic action games with a platform element that only tries to force the meme "lol dumb characters and funny absurd weapons xDD" that this series has become.
>>324176970
the game is full of jokes.
So is uncharted.
big surprise.
>>324177864
>I've played all of the games but the first one has this magic atmosphere that none of the sequels managed to get.
This
I can't tell if it's nostalgia or something else but there's something about the music, the graphics and the gameplay that the later games don't capture.
>>324177492
yup, finally someone who agrees. It had a great atmosphere and setting, and as a sequel it took a tremendous risk, I respect it a lot.
>>324177723
>Jak II is only popular among kids who couldn't play GTA; this was the closest they could get to enjoying GTA
More like it was popular because it mixed GTA style gameplay into its own cohesively.
>Jak 3 was a fine game
It was leagues worse than 2. You say it has more platforming than gunplay but the amount of platforming it has is pitiful considering a lot of the game is focused on roaming the giant desert area in cars. That shoot guns. Not to mention the smaller size of the main game in 3.
>>324177834
The only platforming I remember from Jak II was the temple. There might be more than just that level, but all I really remember from Jak II was going opposite ends of Haven City looking for missions.
>>324177864
>no strafe
Your opinion is invalid.
>>324178000
> I respect it a lot.
Why would you?
All it did was prove Naughty Dog is a company which has no respect for its product and is just a trend follower.
>>324178042
>no strafe
The first game had a lot less combat though, so it's not as bad.
>>324178000
Yeah the open world was great and the weapon upgrades and variety made it so fun
plus the fuckin hoverboard, that thing was awesome
>>324177492
Not when Jak 3 exists my friend. The entire useless city of 2 can just fuck right off. They give you one mission at the port, then back to the arena, then back to the port, etc.
It's maddening.
>>324178028
the problem with 3 as well was that it didn't respect the story/character work II did. II had some cool lore being made, 3 shits over it with the Precursor reveal and some other elements.
>see tons of ads on G4 for these three games
>not really give a shit, looks like kiddy bright colors baby shit
>not a single minute of sleep wasted on garbage games
ez
>>324176809
The Nostalgic gamers should be exactly who to pander to in order to get them back on their feet
>>324178435
>>324178334
>implying the precursor reveal wasn't 10/10
Other than that the only real thing they shit on from 2 was the relationships between Jak and Keira and Ashley and Torn, which was due to Keira's voice actor quitting.
>>324175157
Well you clearly did not play jak 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwbOM6nWlSc
>>324177864
the problem with 1 was there was no point using the weapons, it was poorly balanced that way where they didn't really have enough reward. Also the fact the game didn't stop when selecting them, meant I died many times because moving the stick to select a weapon also moves Ratchet, knocking him off a cliff or into an enemy or something.
guys....I've never played a sly cooper game
>>324178719
Why didn't you just use the pause menu then faggot?
>>324174850
yes, I remember the era when practically every game involved some kind of animal mascot jumping around, collecting coins and shit. I remember when games were more like commercials for licensed toys and cartoons. They were just as bad as the average grimdark epic cinematic experience vidya today.
>>324178663
I just really didn't like the Precursors being Daxter's race and being all goofy and stupid. It shits on the cool atmosphere of the first and second game, with the ancient temples, the cryptic Oracles, the mystery. It felt too cartoon-like to make them into ottsels, I would have rathered a slightly more mature take on it.
Did anyone else play this
I thought it was great
>>324178781
Give them a try. It's the weakest of these three series, but they're pretty fun games.
Avoid 3 tho, is fucking cancer.
>Own a PS1, PS2 and PS3
>Get all the Crash games on the PS1
>Get Jak 1, 2 and 3 plus Sly and Racket and Clank 1 2 3
>Get to PS3, terrible new Sly game, new R&Cs aren't the same other than the time one and zero Jak or Crash
>tfw I didn't get a PS4 because there is literally nothing for these guys
inb4 new R&C, it's just a remake.
>>324178971
It was OK.
Short as fuck and the weapons/gadgets were seriously lame.
>>324178971
It wasn't a bad game for a portable game, but it was too short and easy.
>>3241787811, Definitely 2, if you don't like 3, we won't blame you, THIEVES maaaybe, I honestly loved it, but Thieves has a love/hate relationship with people.
>>324178696
>says one edgy thing at the beginning of the game
>is the sarcastic straightman to Daxter's stupidity for the rest of the game
>people will continue to meme about Jak 2 being edgy for the rest of time
>>324178956
Didn't really matter what they looked like. That really doesn't have a hold on what they're capable of. It would have probably helped if the stupid surfer one didn't exist. Jak and Daxter was always a more lighthearted series even when shit got dark in 2 and 3 and them revealing that Daxter was secretly a demigod the whole time, ones which Samos had spent his whole life looking for, and Vegar or whatever his name was getting turned into one was pretty good.
>>324178781
I onyly played 1 over this last Christmas. 'salright, it's a perfectly decent platformer of its time, like solid 8/10. I would expect 2 would be better, as in these games it usually streamlines things and the game is better.
>>324178334
The opening of Jak 3 was hilarious
>spend all of Jak II working to kill Praxis and you don't even get to kill him
>beat the game
>everyone throws a party in honor of Praxis's death
>load up Jak 3
>Jak is being held accountable for Praxis's death, left out in the desert to die, etc
>yfw you indirectly killed the leader of one of the last remaining civilizations in the known world
>Praxis did nothing wrong either
As for the Precursors, I would have rather they stay heard but not seen. And they just throw in some lore that the Precursors had a weird sense of humor involving ottsels.
The Ratchet remake is the only game I'm looking forward to this year. Should I be ashamed?
>>324179091
>Get to PS3, terrible new Sly game
No, just no.
I can understand why people complain about this game, but it was a decent sequel. I trust Sanzaru will give us a good 5th game
>>324179091
>Get to PS3, terrible new Sly game
What's so bad about 4th?
I played itBEFOREplaying the trilogy and it's definitely not the worst sly game, that's 3
>>324179481
It's not like there's much else in terms of AAA releases.
>>324179279
different strokes I guess. I hated everything in your last sentence there.
In my opinion, what Jak 3 should have been was Jak going back to a time between 1 and 2, becoming Mar(as 2 hinted strongly at) and building Haven City, with base building/simple economy management systems being the gimmick instead of the desert car racing.
>>324174850
>Everything needs to be le goofy for me to have fun
Whats the difference from what your asking? And it isn't even gone.
>>324179279
Yeah you clearly didn't play Jak 2 if you think Jak 3 is edgy and 2 isn't. I'm assuming you're probably just mixing 2 up with precursor legacy.
>>324179609
>Jak going back to a time between 1 and 2
That should be Jak 4.
>>324179609
>hates that this legendary race got revealed
>wants to reveal Mar
For what purpose?
Sony died when they started taking gaming too seriously
6th gen was the beginning of the end, however because no one realized how much graphics and useless dlc could influence people no barely anyone did it. With the release of the iphone and mobile games things were actually ruined from that point on. 6th gen had many great games and both pc and console gaming were great but it still was the beginning of the garbage that was 7th and now 8th gen.
>>324179739
Not even that guy. Neither games are edgy.
>>324179948
I hate that it was revealed as silly Ottsels who were faking things in a Wizard of Oz type way. I'm fine with a Mar=Jak reveal, since there was plenty of groundwork laid for it, and it would make for a nice self-contained trilogy.
>>324179258
>"Size Matters"
>too short
>>324174850
Jak did, but it was good anyway
>>324180121
They became so "serious", it's laughable!
>>324180354
It's an actual embarrassment to gaming that that exists.
>>324180189
Doesn't mean the ottsels aren't capable of major feats a la Yoda. There really isn't a point in a Mar=Jak reveal since it already happened in 3 when Spargus fucking said his son was Mar and his son held the amulet that Jak got from his past self and immediately after being confirmed by Vulgar taunting him. And we already know the final results of Mar's actions, there's no real need in revealing a mystery that doesn't need to.
>>324175919
>finally get PS3
>can experience the R&Cs I missed after all those years
>every goddamn character becomes flanderized as fuck
>lose interest
>>324181002
The writing in Future is really, really shitty.
>>324178971
it was ok
If I played it back when it was new I probably would have been impressed
I don't know why Insomniac decided a series about furry James Arnold Taylor shooting aliens and robots with silly guns had to become some sweeping space soap opera during the PS3 era.
>>324180725
well again, I just don't like that yoda-type trope. I completely understand what you're getting at, I just don't like it.
As for Mar, I just think seeing the story of how Haven City was built, seeing the aftermath of the Metal Head invasion that Jak/Samos/Keira started by opening the gate would have been interesting. Maybe visiting locations from Precursor's Legacy in disrepair/under attack. Jak would be an older man, a leader, following his arc from silent protag boy in 1, to angsty teenager in 2, to a man fulfilling his destiny in 3. The problem with the story is the ending I suppose, since Mar only really builds Haven, it's up to his younger self to really safe the world by finallly beating the Metal Heads in 2.
>>324178781
Sly 1 is a Crash clone. The hubs are super small. They're bigger than Crash's warp room, but there's nothing to look for other than some extra lives and coins.
2 plays extremely differently. You've got a midsize hub to explore and complete missions. You've got a healthbar now. You can collect clue bottles and find rare artifacts so you'll have something to do other than missions.
Sly 3 has huge hub, but they removed bottles and artifacts so there's nothing to do but complete missions. And to pour salt on the wound, most of the missions are minigames. They introduce a bunch of new characters but they're just a vehicle for more crappy minigames. There's also a challenge mode but they're all just completing the same missions under time pressure or without taking damage. Not really worth your time.
4 plays a lot more like 2 but it has a metric fuckton of QTEs. Each world has a new character to play as but they're all just Sly with a unique ability.
TL;DR: Find the Sly Collection and Thieves in Time. They should be cheap.
>>324181250
Because CINEMATIC
>>324180121
If you want cartoony kiddy games you have Nintendo
The second of each trilogy was the best of each trilogy. This is fact.
>>324181191
What pisses me off the most is what they did to Quark. Suddenly somewhere between the PS2 and PS3 he turned into a total fucking moron with no redeemable qualities.
how the flying FUCK do you just drop the ball on characters like that so goddamned hard?
>>324181317
thing about Sly 1 was it was a lot like Spyro 1- you can 100% the game in basically one sitting. It's pretty shirt, there is no backtracking, no abilities that you need to unlock areas or shit, you can just go in, do a level while collecting all the bottles, move on. Very formulaic, 5 hubs with the same setup.
Haven't played 2, from the sounds if it it's probably the best one?
>>324181346
Are you saying you don't want those games?
I'm sorry but you have god awful taste and recommend seeing a doctor to check your head.
Seriously though, gaming is a child's hobby and you aren't mature so don't pretend the industry is either.
>>324181550
Replace writers.
>>324181550
He was a moron in 2 and 3.
>>324181463
>Jak 2 being better than the best 3D platformer ever made
How can a single person be so wrong?
I played Jak and Daxter again recently after not playing it since I was like 12.
It was shit.
>>324181286
Seeing all of that would just ruin the spectacle and raise far too many questions that would need to be answered. Like how did he actually get the walls of the city up and running if the Metal Heads were already being assholes, where did the Metal Heads come from, where did all the eco suddenly go, etc. that didn't really need to be answered in 2 because of how drastically everything had changed since 1. And you're right, Mar doesn't really do shit but build a city, rule over it for a while, then die. Wouldn't be a exciting ending that's for sure.
>>324181341
I mean, ToD and CiT were pretty fun, and I shouldn't care too much about the canon of Ratchet and Clank. But it kind of irked me that Clank's backstory went from some dork robot shat out by a computer to try to stop an evil businessman, to some predestined Time Janitor or something.
>>324181582
Just finished the trilogy anon here.
Yes, Sly 2 is definitely the best one on the list
The thing i probablu hate about among the series are the fucking villans, both 1, 3 and 4 abuse the "I hate you and your family name" and 2 use it on not direct-way
>>324176054
No.
>>324181730
Yeah, but there was something different about him, he felt like an actual person instead of a caricature, didn't appear to be completely incompetent, and he was actually amusing.
>>324181848
Don't be mad about that retcon.
Don't be mad that they're retconning the whole first game to be this way.
>>324181667
Shooting/Platformer is a casual genre
Absolutely no challenge
>the writing will never be as good as Deadlock/Gladiator
How does the least platformy game have the best humor an interactions.
Gameplay generally got better with ACiT and Nexus when focused on core game.
Hopefully this plays great and has good replayability. Only reason I come back for games now.
Man, I always thought that the Jak & Daxter games were just a ripoff of the Ratchet & Clank seriesAre they good?
>>324181838
>where did all the eco suddenly go
well, it still exists- it's the ammo, and the health packs in 2 and 3. Note that you have yellow/red/blue ammo and green health. I love that detail(another reason I love what 2 did to the universe). The eco is still there, and in terms of the ammo it has sensible effects based on how it worked in the first game.
>>324182034
>How does the least platformy game have the best humor an interactions.
It had to be the best at something.
>>324182041
Jak 1 is good but I didn't care for the sequels at all.
>>324181730
>Play 3
>The whole game he tries to be good and then fakes his death
>They find out and shame him
>mfw he saves the day in the final boss
He's my favorite character m8
>>324179515
The level design was meh, at best. It certainly didn't match the sprawling (for the time) feeling that 3,2, and to a lesser extent, 1 had. Couple that with the lack of missions and time spent in each world and some rando villain thrown in to mix things up and explain the time travel (which could have been god-like). There was so much potential when it came to meeting Sly's ancestors, and an attempt is made to touch on that, but it didn't reach half of it's full potential.
Also the Penelope turning evil thing just made no sense. It's not a terrible game, but it certainly doesn't go beyond average.
>>324182098
It's mentioned in-game that eco is much more scarce in 2 and 3 than in 1, where eco tended to just blast out from the ground from vents.
>>324182041
They're definitely worth a go.
>>324174850
>mfw I just want a J&D game with more precursor temples, relics and kickass robots
This is what I've wanted ever since I played Precursor Legacy all those years ago. I still have the map that came in the box.
>>324181838
>where did the Metal Heads come from
They came fromthe portal that Jak and the guys opened up in the beginning of Jak 2.
>>324182486
>I still have the map that came in the box.
Mad jelly here
Lost mine
>>324182501
So they created themselves through a time loop?
>>324182501
Jak's timeline fuckery is a double-loop. The Metal Heads came from somewhere and the loop the involves kid Jak becoming Mar and making Haven City would involve the origins of the Metal Heads.
>>324181979
I don't know man, I'm not too mad about it. At least now they're deciding to put all their space opera shit into some alternate continuity instead of just trying to shove it where it doesn't belong.
What did you guys think of Deadlocked?
>>324182938
The Shadow the Hedgehog of R&C
Pretty fun though
ACiT and UYA are clearly the best in the series.
>>324182938
Was OK.
I liked the commentators but the dialogue got a bit repetitive.
A little short, could have done with a few more weapons but mods kept things interesting.
Best played in co-op.
I still haven't beaten all challenges in Exterminator difficulty, fuck those spider tank missions.
Does any Jak game emulate without obnoxious graphical glitches yet?
>>324182938
I thought Deadlocked was fun, but a different fun from the previous games. The tone of it was pretty different, but it didn't bother me. Only thing that kind of confused me as a kid was the size difference.
>>324183291
Yup,The Lost Frontier
>>324183291
No and they likely never will emulate correctly.
>>324183639
have some faith in the latest gsdx
>>324176162
>best
>not up your arsenal
Dude what?
>>324184197
a crack in time gives it a run for its money
I can't really choose between them
>>324182938
online kicked ass
>>324182938
played that the most, but Up Your Arsenal is still my favorite. That said, Deadlocked had great characters and did challenges in games the best; I really haven't seen a game do extra challenges as well, which is understandable since that was what the game was focused on.
>mfw Green's backstory you hear on planet Torval
>>324178000
This game is so unfairly fucking hard at points.
It's also one of the few games that I've probably ever truly enjoyed with all of my heart.
>>324176535
I like playstation move but it lacked software to support it. The sports game that came with it and had the sword and shield battling was 10/10 tho
>>324182938
Fun action gameplay with Omega mods and an Online mode that was the best in the series.
Best humor. Banter is fun from cutscenes to Merc and Green and commentators.
A bit too repetitive.
Not much exploration due to shift
Would the Multiplayer count as an arena shooter in a way?
>>324182486
>I still have the map that came in the box.
Oh shit nigga! I should have that in the original box!
I bet that it still has that new game smell.
>>324177913
Uncharted isn't edgy as well.
>>324178324
You also had side missions to do on the way, as well as orbs to find.
>>324179409
>everyone throws a party in honor of Praxis's death
They were throwing a party for the defeat of the Metal Head leader, and the fact that they're on the winning side of the war now.
>>324181346
Not everyone sucks Nintendo's cock anon, some people like other shit besides Nintendo.
This is pretty much /v/'s version of "if you don't like it, don't watch it" shit.
>>324181848
But being a predestined time janitor gave us the best Clank puzzles in the entire series.
I remember spending an unhealthy amount of time during the pirate ship mode in Sly 3, to the point where I would annihilate my pals flawlessly in the local versus mode
>>324188059
>that cliffhanger in AciT
I was so fucking mad when I finally got around to picking up the older ratchets. Fucking nearly had a stuck on the moon situation, sweet jesus Sony liked insomniac.
>>324174850
That era was still full of grimdark edginess though...
