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How do I git gud? I feel like I'm wasting my turns while enemies rapidly grow in troop numbers as I pretty much stagnate in comparison. Any general tips, what should I prioritize etc? Are dungeons worth doing?
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For reference, here's my progress so far. Military-wise, it's been going good until I tried my hand at handling Tokugawa, but I got hilariously rekt instead.
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>>324091947
don't conquer Iga
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You're only at war with one faction, how can you possibly be getting rekt? Just take one castle every turn and leave enough soldiers to defend like one attack.
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>>324092335
Also, show your troops.
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>>324092104
This, you done fucked up
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Fuck the Asakura whore
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>>324092815
Just start over niqqa
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>>324091947
>vassal
WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU MORON
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>>324092878
I'll make it through tactical savescumming
I believe in myself.
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Recruit the Kuge sisters.
They are op.
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>>324092990
Just remember to level up your troops by clearing out the caves or byakko will fuck you
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>>324091727
I wish I could put Sengoku Rance on my steam so I could know how many hours I've put into it.
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>>324093189
>he doesn't know how to put games on steam
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>>324093085
Who was byakko, again? It's been a while since I last played.
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>>324092485
pic related
>>324092335
He has like 3 conquests per turn with his main character and I can't goddamn scratch them in each of the battles. It's quite impossible and I see it all rolling down towards me getting rekt.

>>324092104
Why?

>>324092929
S-Sorry.
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>>324091727

Honestly the turn limit on this game was what turned me off it. I get way too nervous with shit like this ;_;
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>>324093326
Damn man, get more units. More units = able to defend more attacks in one turn. I have more and I'm on turn 22. Impose some levies if you're really desperate for money.
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>>324093443
>>324093326
You can get more turns, you know.
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>>324093189
do it fag
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>>324091727
Not video game. Can you get the fuck out back to /a/
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>>324093569
I was pretty much going with quality > quantity and It worked nicely until Tokugawa, who pretty much amassed over 18k troops since the game's start, which I couldn't possibly handle. I think my biggest mistake was vassallizing stuff instead of outright conquering.

In general, what should I keep an eye out for? Should I just always prioritize conquest, or find a balance between building relationships and dungeoning?
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>all those vassals
>that sad commander list
>only 2 action fans
>turn 41
I don't like telling people to start over since you usually don't have to, but seriously start over.
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>get complete game sav file
>start with yokai family bonus
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>>324093443
you have infinite turns in most routes, including the true route. unless you get conquered i guess
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>>324093741
>>324093256
But I pirated it.
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>Declaring on Takeda in your first playthrough

Welp. RIP in peace OP
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>>324094525
You're SOL then, you can only get Sengoku Rance in your library if you bought it off Steam. Maybe next summer sale
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>>324094025
I've only finished the game twice so my tips probably are the opposite of what the pros do.
Building relationships with characters is generally second to me compared to making sure my kingdom is stable and capable of self-defense and taking a castle a turn. Unless you're going for a specific route or have actual plans to make a specific unit OP, I doubt most of it will be necessary. Conquest is definitely the safest way to go. If you're being overrun by several countries/one really strong country, use the covert actions to shut them down for a turn. I generally don't focus on dungeoneering at all until way later, as it doesn't affect the army battles at all as far as I can tell.
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>>324094186
| absolutely intend to.

How do I increase action fans?
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>>324094790
Raise Rance's satisfaction. At certain intervals you can select an extra action fan as a bonus. In fact, at 47 you should already have been able to select it for quite a while if I remember correctly.
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>>324094790
Use satisfaction points
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>>324094790
buy them with satisfaction. you get satisfaction by raping girls when you conquer territories.
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>>324094960
Nope. First is at 50.
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>>324095528
I got my third way before this screenshot though
>>324092815
It's been months since I last played on this save though. If I were to guess I'd say it's 25.
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So I'm gonna start this game for my first playthrough, any tips for a noobie?
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>>324091727

Bang your head against a wall until you win.

I know that doesn't sound like actual advice, but aside from looking up how to recruit commanders, this is a game where you generally figure it out yourself.
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just find a fucking guide and follow it
i dont recommend reading guide on the first playthrough tho
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>>324095814
don't conquer Iga or Swastika Land. Kenshin is best girl and best unit, keep her at all costs

Grind in dungeons or else the Final Boss is going to be incredibly fucking stupid
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>>324095814
Just play it blindly to get the hang of the game.

Then restart when you dun fucked up.
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>>324095814
You'll probably get through it, but end up with negative points. That's fine.
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>>324096035

Which we should note, WILL happen.

No one fucking beats Sengoku Rance on their first try unless they have a long history of playing the Nobunaga's Ambition series.
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>Play Rance
>Spend turns getting relationship points and shit
>Plot happens
>Raped
>Don't want to have to reread everything all over again
>Never play again
Should have been reinforcing my land and getting troops
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>>324095814
-with some exception enemy troop numbers scale with the size of your army, excluding foot soldiers
-higher commander stats are generally more important than troop counts
-archers are mostly useless
-always be at war
-try to use all of your commanders every turn
-don't take vassals
-breaking seals advances the plot
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>>324093189
Eyebrows girl had the best sex scene, shame it is so early in the game.
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>>324096179
I did beat it on my first try, but it was with some pretty heavy savescumming later on.
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>>324096210

If you hold down CTRL you skip through the dialog.
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>>324094620
Wait, so they let Rance be on steam, when it contains LITERAL LOLI GANG RAPE, but they ban that Yohjo Simulator game because it contains a hidden scene that is implied rape (if you think about it creatively)?
Steam are fucking retards
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>>324096373
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>>324095667
Are you sure you didn't get it from 2nd game bonus?
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Are there any mechanically similar games to Sengoku Rance? I couldn't care less about the pr0n, but I like the mixed up aspects of strategy, RPG and visual novel.
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>>324095814
Play as blind as possible, really. I think one of the biggest things SR has going for it is the discovery factor, learning what works and what doesn't yourself is fun and rewarding.
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where can I buy/pirate this?
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>>324096373
its not SOLD on steam its simply in your steam library
basically
what you played that was a computer game
that's it
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Does anyone know what influences the chances of the assassination skill functioning?
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>>324091727
THE CUBE AND THE SWIMSUIT CUTIE ARE FUCKING OP
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>>324096645

And then once you figure it out the game is broken so wide open that it's hilarious.
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>>324096769
basically less troops you have = higher chance to die and some RNG as suzume wrecked niggas at full stack size
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>>324095814
Play blind, but with some key tips:
-don't vassal anybody, always conquer
-you can get some great units (and a useless ninja) by "requesting reinforcements"
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I think BBA is a much better game, but it's also way more frustrating because of its resource management.
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>>324096894
not as when you could get two Omachi's
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>>324096636
Big Bang Age is translated, also by Alicesoft and has a lot of similarities to SR

Sengoku Gensokyo is a doujin rance clone featuring touhou characters and locations. No lewds. it's translated but make sure you update the game, i somehow ended up playing the whole thing on the 1.0 patch while the most recent patch added a shitload of content.

Eiyuu Senki is another Rance clone where you play as a japanese guy and conquer the world, all the enemy leaders are girl versions of various historical figures. pic related is vlad the impaler.
The R18 version of the game is PC only, but the only translation available is for the PS3 version of the game, which was just recently released on PSN.
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>>324096769
Mainly troop size. Having assassinate2 helps. It will ALWAYS fail on characters flagged as 'important' though. Note that not all important characters have unique sprites. Some generics have it as well, even if they have no actual dialogue. If it doesn't work multiple times even with a reasonable troop size, then give up.
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>>324096957
>useless

Kanami is amazing in dungeons. Which is true in all the games that are straight RPGs, she's a fantastic fighter herself, but she can't fight in an army for shit.
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>>324096628
I guess so. I really thought I didn't, but I must have remembered wrong.

>>324096636
Big Bang Age is great but a lot less polished than Rance. Eiyuu Senki is pretty similar but worse in most aspects but the porn. I've personally been designing a game that's somewhat similar where you play as Athene advising the Greeks during the siege of Troy, but I'm too busy with another project to actually make it right now.
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>>324095959
First time I played i never even fought ninjas until he attacked me a good ways into the game, any reason not to fight them? I also fought the monks because Xavier was fucking up morale
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>>324096959
BBA makes me feel weird
the whole you can only have one of two is interesting but also very unsatisfying
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>>324097031
it fucking works on Moscow though
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>>324097081

Wouldn't bother me as much if the one you don't pick isn't always raped into mindbreak
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>>324096769
IIRC, the only thing that changes its chance of working is if you have a higher troop count than your target. Whether it's 1 troop more or 8000 it won't change your chance past that
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>>324096701
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-PCG-04215&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dsengoku+rance%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1
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>>324091727

Is Rance actually a fun game?

The hentai videos have been pretty damn good, 3rd episode coming out this month.
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Keep in mind that if you play on any difficuly higher than 1-star, having more troops is bad because all troop types except footsoldiers increase enemy troop sizes.

>>324097324

That is an adaptation of the first game. Rance is the seventh game.
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>>324097324
It's a great game.
It's a porn game, but it's more fun than most normal games, even without touching your penis
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>>324097324
>hentai
>good
fuck that shit and shit out Bake Ane Ep 2 already!!
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>>324097030
>>324097035
Thanks familia.
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>>324096921
>>324097031
>>324097253
Thanks, I guess I'll get Suzume some more troops.
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>>324097403
Sengoku Rance is the seventh game I mean
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>>324097403

Holy hell just looked it up on Wikipedia, that's a lot of fucking porn games.

Any idea where to begin? Is this one the best starting point?
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>>324097540
Sengoku Rance is the most fun to play and decently standalone. It's also the most popular in the west so it's not as hard to find people to help you out if you can't figure something out.
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Fill your backline with tacticians.
Natori and Isoroku are overrated. Drop them as soon as you get their H-scenes.
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>>324097647
I think the reason its the most popular is because its the only one in English
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>>324097647

Thanks, will give it a shot.

Where does the hentai come in play? Is it half Nobunaga's Ambition half VN? Or is it just scenes as you conquer different areas?
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>>324097804
get with the times bruh
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>>324097540

The first game has been translated but...it's a machine translation. THe 2nd game was too but at least they edited that shit afterwards.

3, 4, 4.1 and 4.2, and Kichikuou have all been translated by people here on 4chan and they're good translations.

If you want to play Quest or IX, there's dedicated dictionaries to use with VNR which will get you through the game and more or less know what's going on. I never was lost playing Evenicle that way.

>>324097753
>Natori and Isoroku are overrated. Drop them as soon as you get their H-scenes.

You cheeky motherfucker.

>>324097647
>Sengoku Rance is the most fun to play

I disagree, Rance VI is by far the best game in the series.
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>>324097753
People use tacticians?
Why?
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>>324097465
yes and no she doesn't need too much troops and her main purpose is essential (outside of dungeon battles) RNG assassinate for huge stacks or Chun shuriken to cancel enemy preparation your warriors are going to need those troops as late game might kill most of your warriors
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>>324091727
That's a lot of strategy for a porn game.
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I recently downloaded KichikuĊ, would playing that after playing sengoku and reading 1 be alright? any tips?
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>>324097938
>he's never used Accurate Shots
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>>324097753
>Natori 30% damage to stacksize
>Isoroku the secondary Assassin
although mikos and archers are generally shit they are the best ones and should do good from early game to late game which natori is still good
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>>324097991

Pay the fuck attention when the game explains to you shit, because you will NOT beat Kichikuou otherwise
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>>324097840
hentai is everywhere in the game but in CGs not the pixel sprites
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>>324097938
Because they are good at the game.
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>>324097753
Only officers better than Natori are Omachi, Uruza and Ootomi Sourin. Although Natori has that unique instantly-fill Rance's like meter whenever you harem her too so that needs to count for something.
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>>324098124
>late game which natori is still good
Until you realize 30% to stack is really shit damage for a move that takes all of your AP and needs prep time. A regular diviner attack can do that.
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>>324098498
Natori's normal attack is garbage and her special attack is a meme.
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>>324098625

Natori is part of the death combo though.

Also Diviner damage is based on their stack, Natori does that damage no matter what her size which is a godsend on 5-star.
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>>324097991
holy shit you are in for some ass dicking
literally fuck melefis
if you want ex let him live and around november if mars attacks the castle directly abandon and a chance that ex will save you
don't forget to fuck stone doll
give amusement park pussy to football player
tolerate DX
when you see T.Hawk from the street fighter series always levy in the area he is in
conquer Oda in one turn
investigate the old lady
GET CHAOS
Helmans are fucking OP and Hanty is best mage
use Miki as meat shield and have her concentrate like 3 times for miki nuke but it can fail often
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>>324097991
uninstall.exe
game is boring and art is ugly
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>>324098625
nah nignog she is really good especially with the fast bug and tactician against the late game enemies since the mouri daughters and the african niggers are fucking op and she does damage without risk of counterattack also why do you call everything a fucking meme
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>>324099253
>game is boring
>I tried to fight Zeth and Helman at their front gates
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>>324091727
The first playthrough you should play however you want. You won't lose just don't lose hope.
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>>324098625
who cares if it takes all your AP and prep time if it's guaranteed to push the meter 100% to your side. You also get her extremely early and easily, which makes her very important in situations like your first playthrough when you probably won't have any good officers from mouri/takeda/one-eyed and need to kill those fuckers in the demon army castles with zillions of troops.
Of course she's also invaluable on the harder settings when the other houses start packing 9999 strong footmen left and right, even Omachi won't be able to dent those units like Natori can. It doesn't need to be quite that extreme though, unit defenses mean diviners are rarely ever going to do as much damage as Natori, and also just as importantly she'll do full damage no matter how many troops she has.

Even outside battle she's one of the more useful commanders, since seeing her on visits to Rance's room instantly fills his affection meter.
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>>324098625
>>324098729
>I've never played on 5-star
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>>324096319

>>324096636
Kichukuou Rance
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>>324096179
You can if you are persistent. After a certain number of turns the army retreats and becomes passive. You will have all the time you need to raise a competent army. FIRST PLAYTHROUGH ONLY. That's why the first playthrough you should play however you need.
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>>324097324
The ovas are fucking shit and they've selected shit scenes.

It's a horrid adaptation
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>>324097920
>play IX with VNR

don't do this

You miss a lot especially since IX has a strong story/character focus
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>>324100719

It's better than playing it with nothing if you can't speak the language. You might as well not play the game at all then.
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>>324097991
1. Play Sengoku

Go to RPG Codex and read Let's Plays for Rance I to Rance 4.2
Otherwise
1. Read Rance I digest
2. Read Rance II digest or play the MT game
3. Play Rance III
4. Play Rance IV
Rance 4.x isn't particularly necessary

The RPG Codex Let's Play is a text/screenshot based Let's Play that covers the entire game. Reading all the Rance games there takes like 5 hours max
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>>324100873
Well yeah. You shouldn't.

Learning moon is the way to go if you're that interested. IX as a game is not good enough to play if you can't understand what is going on.

Evenicle and Magnum are probably fine though I have difficulties recommending machine translations.

Rance VI borderline.
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>>324101079
>Evenicle and Magnum are probably fine though I have difficulties recommending machine translations.

Like I said before, I never had a problem understanding anything when going through Evenicle. I even had Arunaru with me and asking him if I was understanding things right when trying to guess ahead in the plot and I was right most of the time.

>Rance VI borderline.

I don't think VI works with VNR. It's too old.
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>>324101202
VNR/ITH same shit.

And yeah I reckon Evenicle would be fine to play with MT. Same with Magnum.

The gameplay is solid enough to be interesting and the plot is quite simple (while good) and the game is straightforward.

So even though I'm reluctant to reccommend MTing anything I believe it's probably fine to do it.

With VI i'm not so sure but at least the gameplay is good.

With IX I think you'll get a very devalued experience and the gameplay isn't good enough to play the game while missing it's stronger points.

What I'd advise is learning Japanese and using Evenicle and Quest as an early game while your learning
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