>Having a knife out makes you run faster
Who thought that this was a good thing to keep around?
It adds an quick-draw dynamic not seen in many FPS games. It makes it fun.
>>324039965
there's literally nothing wrong with that
it gives a purpose to knives
>>324040029
except it also adds more to the wrong place wrong time if the other guy has his weapon out already
cs is literally about who sees who first
A knife is lighter than a gun
>>324040167
>cs is literally about who sees who first
Uh, like every FPS except maybe Splatoon?
No wait, that even applies to Splatoon.
Why not just run around with the pistol instead?
>>324040167
nope, you're just bad
get good
Defend this
>>324040167
This, fuck do you mean quickdraw?
99% of the time it's just to get to where they need to peek faster. Unless you're turboshit at the game, you will NEVER have a knife out when it's combat time because by then you're dead.
>>324040192
You're still carrying the gun, dipshit.
>>324039965
Surely it's the opposite?
Having a clunky gun out slows you down?
>>324040348
>You're still carrying the gun, dipshit.
No, you're carrying the knife. you put the gun away
>>324040251
it completely relies on who sees who first
its not everything in other fps that isn't cod and every tactical shooter
It rewards map awareness and knowledge of enemy positions with increased mobility. What's wrong with that?
>>324040423
Name an FPS where it isn't about "who sees who first", because I can't think of any.
>>324039965
So you can actually catch up to the faggot you want to stab in the back.
>>324040412
FailFish
>>324040192
Yeah but you are still carrying the fucking gun with you.
It doesn't appear out of fucking air.
If anything holding a knife makes you run slower, because
1) You have to mind the sharp bladed weapon swinging around with you
2) Holding a rifle instead of having it dangling strapped to your body is better for your center of balance.
>>324040584
Are you stupid? Look at OP's pic. do you see a gun? No. He's not carrying the gun. He's carrying the knife. The knife is lighter than the gun so he runs faster.
>>324040517
cs theres no decision making like in quake or even old halo
once you spot someone they're pretty much your kill
Knife cuts through the air decreasing wind resistance thus making you run faster
>>324040669
>the gun is not on your person unless you are holding it in your hands
>running with knife.
meanwhile I'll blast you with my deagle while your too busy switching.
>>324040584
dude, you're getting baited so hard.
>>324040669
You are retarded
>>324040345
They'll just disappear once the person shoots again. What's the point?
>>324040345
The pattern is pretty much the same every time so you can easily control where you want your bullets to go. Also this makes the skill cap higher since you can't just point and click at people because literally everybody can do that unless you are total garbage.
>>324040893
>>324041058
I cannot believe how gullible you guys are
>>324039965
The millions of voices crying out in pain when they took it out.
Jesus christ guys its a video game not a military sim. It's just a mechanic, it has nothing to do with center of balance or vanishing guns.
>>324040708
>>324040708
>cs theres no decision making like in quake or even old halo
>see fucker first in Quake
>super shotgun/rocket launcher/fucking anything them first
>see fucker in cs
>two pistol shots to the head by the time he's turning on me
>i had have to fuck up severely to screw this advantage up
>cs
>can get turn on and rekt if you're bad
What the fuck are you trying to say?
>>324041136
>so you can easily control where you want your bullets to go
So completely unlike real guns?
>>324040708
CS isn't CoD, mate. If you see someone without them seeing you, generally it's because you outplayed them. Most fights both players see each other at the same time and it comes down to reaction time and aim.
Would still rather play Quake or Tribes than CS, though, but that doesn't really help when both are dead and there's no other alternative.
>>324041325
But a knife is far lighter so it does make sense tho
>>324041446
Yeah, but literally who cares? It's not like cs is a military simulator.
>>324039965
I liked Source better where the pistols all had a running speed as fast as the knife. The scout having a faster running speed than everything else is sort of cool too.
When Combat Arms wasn't unbearable there was a really cool mechanic with quickswitching. Not only was quickswitching faster than waiting for the bolt animation, it also gave the sniper rifle the running speed of the knife for a bit. That would have been really cool in CS, it didn't really do much in CA because that game has sprinting anyways.
>>324041505
You're still carrying your other equipment. It's just a mechanic.
>>324041151
>I can´t fathom that these anons thought I was a retard on the internet.
Stupid is who stupid does, m8ty.
>>324041485
What about UT4? I haven't tried it myself yet but I was considering it.
>>324040251
>Splatoon.
>FPS.
>>324041341
i hope the joke is that the faggot who ran in spamming actually just missed all his shots and then cried "MUH HIT DETECTION"
>>324040773
Irl kek
>its 2016
>there are some gamers who legitimately think this makes sense
>they actually believe it makes the game more realistic
reminder - cod fags didn't ruin FPS, CSfags did
>>324041573
>Yeah, but literally who cares?
All the people who don´t play it because of that.
And all the people who would cry like femfreq if it were to disappear.
>>324041505
yeah and you can take like 3 shots to the head from a pistol, it's not a sim it's just a fucking mechanic. It's like asking why you can double jump in smash bros. You just fucking can.
>>324041812
You can double jump in smash bros?
>>324041635
Yeah but you put the gun away which means you're carrying the far lighter weapon, thus ur faster.
Not a difficult concept to grasp, were u dropped as a kid or something?
>>324041804
>wahhh it's shit because im too autistic to follow a pattern.
as someone who has actually had to carry weapons at the ready vs slung on my backcarrying them in your hand does make you slower
>>324042083
Following paterns is what autist excel at, autist.
>>324041927
no you just fart really heavily and it propels you upward
>>324039965
Realism isn't a meaningful argument
>>324041757
>implying anyone thinks it's realistic and not just a game mechanic.
Reminder that the types of games ruined gaming, but retarded faggots did
>>324042213
>no you're autistic because you like game i not likey
>>324041741
if you watch the movie you'd know why it was relevant
>>324042362
>Reminder that the types of games ruined gaming, but retarded faggots did
calm down anon, and once you calm down can you tell me what you were trying to say?
>>324041698
No idea, I've never really been a big UT fan and I've never seen it as the type of game you dump tons of time in to get better than everyone else. I bought Reflex hoping that would eventually gain some ground, but no dice.
I'm just going to buy a fightstick and play SFV for my competitive needs I think.
>>324040167
>this
>>324040251
Only CS has the see-first-kill-first mentality in FPS games. All other games, you have a few seconds to react.
>>324041485
>If you see someone without them seeing you, generally it's because you outplayed them
you can't always avoid that no matter how good you are
the TTKs just make it bad imo not having to earn your kill and just finding them
>>324042364
No, I'm simply stating autists excel at recgonizing and following patterns. Stop misusing words you fucking /v/ermin.
>>324042784
>Stop misusing words you fucking /v/ermin.
what did anonymous mean by this?
>>324040517
tf2, UT, chivalry
>>324041485
>outplayed them
80% of CS is literally just luck.
>>324042840
fuck off reddit
>>324039965
Silver 1 detected
>>324042984
>fuck off reddit
what did he mean by this
>>324041341
>>324042870
>>324042765
You can't avoid it yourself, but from the start of the round you should have eyes everywhere someone can be coming from. If you don't, it's because you either have reason to believe the enemy isn't at a certain area and you're repositioned your team or the round's already underway and you've had some losses that have denied you vision and security.
This seems reasonable to me.
>>324042984
>do i fit in yet 4chin reddit da boogey man lel am i rite xD
>>324041058
It's literally a fucking video game
>>324042984
posting this to /r/4chan :o)
>>324040251
Pretty much every FPS nowadays, older halo games used to have it so you could change the tides if someone got the drop on you but now that series's multiplayer has gone to shit
>>324042083
>All the people who don´t play it because of that.
CS:Go has been the top FPS on pc for years. Nothing even gets close.
>>324041341
>right clicking with the r8
Who still uses that shit gun after the nerf?
>>324043356
What the fuck?
>>324041325
Not a good mechanic though
>>324043356
>This_Machine.webm
>>324039965
Because it gives them an excuse to have 500$ knife skins. What's the point of a knife skin if you never have your knife out?
>>324042303
Yes it is, it makes the game feel more immersive.
Like a helicopter flying with the desired sound or a sword fight not a spinning competition, realism often adds value to a game.
>>324039965
There was a time where the game was for fun instead of eSports
>>324045145
It's not a good mechanic, it's a great mechanic.
>>324045391
Do people actually get immersed in fucking Counter Strike? Jesus fuck.
>MUH IMMERSHUN IS BROKEN!
>>324040517
Tf2 100%
>>324045494
No It's not because it feels retarded because you know it's so far from reality plus makes you give extra effort for some retarded shit that makes no sense.
>>324045576
I don't but when it is possible to introduce something accurate without hurting gameplay (sometimes helping) it is a noble endevour.
>>324045626
your "feels" have nothing to do with the quality of mechanics, sorry m8
>>324040669
I hope you are just fucking with everyone because if so this is hilarious.
10/10 baitss
>>324045778
It's beyond primitive feeling.
You know it is bad because PULLING OUT A KNIFE DOESNT MAKE YOU GOTTA GO FAST.
anyone else here actually got good at csgo?
i played nearly every day for 6 months and eventually was pretty decent, i pugged on client for a while
i played with a few different people who tried to recruit me onto their team for playing in leagues after i played with them on esea, i even killed a few tier 3 pro players and high profile streamers when they were solo [pugging although they probably weren't playing too seriously/ i'm autistic and would explode into spaghetti whenever trying out for a team and getting to know people
i quit playing though after college started up, sometimes i miss it
>>324040584
I don't understand your autistic logic. In ops pic he's carrying a knife. Are you trying to tell me a rifle is lighter than a knife. Wtf man
>>324045951
What happens in real life is literally irrelevant to the mechanics of a video game.
Next you'll argue that the economy of CS "feels bad" because in real life operatives don't have to pay for their equipment.
>>324042374
>>324041741
>people too young to have seen Pulp Fiction are now able to post on /v/
>IDF operative
>can't handle the recoil of an assault rilfe
I love this meme
>>324045050
Old engine, game has no weapon sway or anything like that, so they put in deviation.
It goes away after staying put for a couple of seconds. After running around and stopping, you can't shoot straight for a moment.
>>324039965
its so you can take out the knife and catch up to the guy who doesnt hear you running with his rifle out
>>324046148
Nah that one would hurt gameplay if you removed the store.
But th knife is just dumb.
>>324040345
>people complain about spray patterns
>people complain about RNG
What the fuck do you want?
>>324039965
>playing a shooter without iron sights
Like eating pasta with your bare hands.
>>324046296
>It goes away after staying put for a couple of seconds
But in the webm he was already still for like two seconds before he started firing. They need to curb that stupid shit, it's ridiculous.
Just dumb ain't much of a reason. And CS already makes a bunch of decisions that separate it from real life, so that's not a reason either. The knife provides increased movement speed in exchange for obvious vulnerability. It's a great mechanic.
>>324046296
While that does make sense, it would have helped if they had weapon sway, that shit would drive me crazy if my sight was directly on an enemy and the bullet just curved around him
>>324043508
t. reddit
>>324046476
main complaint of the people who complain about spray patters is that the sprays are random
>People who don't understand why the recoil is the way it is
When you fire full auto it tends to kick UP. The gun on screen doesn't move, but the recoil is replicating if it was. Your recoil kicks UP in the game like most guns in real life.
>>324046073
Yes, it's been great after the rank resets seeing all my shitter friends derank down to mg1s after I carried them to smfc.
>>324047120
Yes and it's bullshit when the first shot innacuracy fucks me over at range, but there are far bigger issues in csgo than first shot innacuracy since they are never going to fucking change it. After that walling update people still fucking teleport around corners and shit.
http://webmshare.com/OMPqY
http://webmshare.com/YXbaN
http://webmshare.com/Qzn3L
>ppl wil defend this
>also, webms too big for this shit site, cba to convert them
>>324047383
>implying realistic recoil is hard to do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TILnkKbW2ro
I mean for fucks sake, at least they could make it so that whenever you shoot your crosshair jumps to new position that would indicate where next bullet will go. Instead we got pic related...
>>324047864
>at least they could make it so that whenever you shoot your crosshair jumps to new position
The crosshair already expands whenever you shoot. Your next shot will land somewhere in the crosshair.
>>324047864
If they changed the animation it would upset autists. It doesn't really matter though, unless you're new and think because your gun isn't moving that much that means there isn't recoil. You know how the recoil works and you know what it's replicating. It is not an issue, really. It's just weak shit people pick on
>>324047864
You could just not be retarded and take 5 minutes to know the spread. The rng in the spread is annoying and fucks you over sometimes but it's rare unless you can't fucking aim.
>>324046578
I haven't seen or felt ballistics that bad since before 1.0 release. Prior to that it took ages for the recoil to reset and you couldn't hit the side of a barn door. Now it's actually pretty slick, but I have no idea what's going on in that webm. The only think of is sometimes getting hit doesn't register (like you can get shot, see the blood come out, you're guy will yelp as if being hit, but no damage is done).
>>324048335
>Just know the spread !
Not him but those 3 webm are clearly aiming at center of head/mass at close range and yet the bullet still manage to do geometrical paradox
>>324042984
Hello Reddit!
>>324041635
Take a full backpack.
Try running with it while you carry it on your hands and while you're wearing it properly.
When are you gonna be able to run faster?
>>324039965
[Obvious joke about running with scissors.]
>>324041341
AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS THE LORD
By far the most stupid mechanic i have seen in CSHIT is the hp, who in their right fucking mind would consider this good. omg
>>324039965
Because IRL running with a gun out feels clunky and slows you down.
>running barehanded in a game isn't as fast as running with a knife
Now this makes no fucking sense.
>>324049919
>running barehanded in a game isn't as fast as running with a knife
You can't run barehanded in CS?
>>324047503
not trying to be a cunt, but if you've never played on client ur pretty shit m8
your average supreme/global is going to get fucking rekt on esea
>>324048546
Don't worry I'll explain it to you since you obviously don't know the game. First webm is a demo recording I believe, but he shoots in the beginning while moving then sprays at the backpack which is not a hit box.
Second is a demo recording which used to be 16 tick and now are only 32, he got beat that's what happens on 64 tick servers he shot but other guy shot first in the demo it won't show that since it's 16 or 32 tick. It's why cevo, faceit and esea are 128 tick. But it's still a rare occurrence that happens the worse your Internet is.
3rd webm is a custom server not valve and that player is either lagging out or the server is dying. That's incredibly rare once again.
You can cherry pick webms all you want but those are incredibly rare things. In my 1200 hours of csgo I've had those things happen maybe about 4 or 5 times total and it's happened zero times since they updated the hit boxes. The game has serious issues but it's limited to first shot innacuracy and the anti walling update and pistols being OP, people that bitch about how bad the hit detection is have shit Internet or can't aim or they are playing laggy shits. I personally play 128 tick since MM is cancer.
>>324047120
yeah it kind of sucks. Honestly the first shot accuracy infographic is misleading. To get that much of a deviation you'd have to be shooting from A to Pit and rifles aren't meant to be used at those ranges.
Still, i wish the game was like 1.6 with first shot accuracy and the first 5 bullets of all 12 or so of the spray patterns were much more consistent.
You'd also be suprised to know just how many military shooters use shot deviation. It's in Squad and Insurgency as well. It creates effective ranges so it being included isn't something that automatically invalidates a game. CSGO isn't even that different in comparison, it just has more deviation then 1.6 and wish it'd scale it back to that level.
>>324050246
I only play MM to fuck around ESEA or CEVO. Faceit with shit friends since they are terrible. I didn't play MM for 2 weeks lost my rank, ranked into badge back to global in a day but it's fun playing with SMFCs and badges and they don't know default plants or smokes or they run and shoot. MM is cancer
>Retarded COD and 'muh realism' babbies are going to whine until they take away the knife speed too
>Just like they whined until they took away our ability to bunny hop
You faggots are cancer.
>using the ak
>not using the superior sg
>>324051263
That and make the awp accurate when quick scoping since they aren't going to unfuck it any other way other than to revert it. Maybe make wallbangs a little less shit too.
>>324051569
During that rifle innacuracy update they didn't touch the Sg like at all or the Aug lol. Just destroying people lol
>>324051569
>playing rifle at all when glorious MP7 exist
>>324039965
Because back then it wasn't a one hit kill with a knife.
>>324040283
pistol is slower than knive.
Good luck getting to site before terrorist
>>324045347
There wasn't knife skins or skins in general at all in 1.6.
>>324054898
>skins in general at all in 1.6
That's not true!
>>324041102
nah it's the same pattern everytime you spray. basically if you know the spray pattern you can move your aim while shooting to hold a very steady aim and have a higher rate of hitting.
if you get flanked in CS it means your shit
ITT: People who are trash at CS complain about different aspects of the game
> The bullet hit him but did no damage!
That's because the impact you see has no actual meaning. Accuracy randomization is all serverside. This changes nothing, however, as the accuracy is not anything you can compensate for. It's still the same, but sometimes hits on your side will miss and sometimes misses on your side will hit. It's a middle ground between full clientside (100% Accuracy hacks are possible) and full serverside (50ms between clicking and actually firing). I don't like it, but the alternative is uber hackers.
CS is by far the most comp-suitable FPS I've ever played. It's simple, hard to master, cheap, and runs on a toaster. Don't give me the skins crap, it's 100% optional and changes nothing. The RNG is there to make expensive guns better. Tactics exist to counter all tactics. If you want fast paced high accuracy impact action, then why the fuck are you looking here? CS isn't perfect, and it isn't for everyone, but it's the best damn FPS on the market right now. Prove me wrong.
>>324045391
Realism is only an argument if the game is touted as "realistic"
Adds a risk vs reward feature to more speed or quicker draw. It is also a bit unique and a more interesting look to a video game than simply holstering a rifle. Ever run with a holstered rifle compared to one swinging in your hands? You have a more natural sway to your step without carrying one.
