>Nintnedo CEO says people are using Amibos wrong.
>What you are seeing is people treating Amibos as collectors items rather than software enhancers.
http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/
Why aren't you using your amibos??? Its not fair!
It's understandable why he would say that though.
Amiibos was supposed to be the thing that put Nintendo back on the map again, but instead it's being treated as an collectors item.
Amiibos are not modernizing Nintendo as a game company, it's solidifying them as an relic.
>>323790218
>make amiibo
>make it do one shitty thing for one game
>WHY AREN'T YOU USING THEM!
>>323790218
>thisthreadagain.jpg
>>323790218
i don't see the problem
>>323790218
Sounds like he caught wind of a hot glue video.
>>323790642
that pic is funny because only one of those games is actually available, and several others are ports.
>>323790218
Maybe they shouldn't have limited supply of them in the first place to make people treat them like collectors items
It's because of whiners of """"locked"""" content that they won't incentivize actual Amiibo use.
So blame those people. They can't add good content to Amiibo because people will shit their diapers over it.
>>323790218
Are they able to be scanned while still in the packaging? Anyone try this?
I haven't bought a Wii U yet and have a few of the unopened 1st gen Amiibos that came out.
>>323790218
Their major use is to fight cpus in the second worst smash game. Of course they aren't being used.
>>323790583
>Neogaf
S'perfect.
maybe if you had made actual merchandise of these characters that isn't Mario, Animal Crossing or Pokemon and not restrict them to mostly in Japan, then we wouldn't have treated them as collectors.
Nintendo doesn't even know how much cash they could get from actually merchandising their brands.
>>323790893
>Nintendo doesn't even know how much cash they could get from actually merchandising their brands.
I think they're exploring that now with the current modest Amiibo production.
>>323790851
>no wii u
>unopened amiibos
so basically you are whats wrong.
Watch out everyone. The mall cop is in the thread deleting posts.
>>323790810
Cause if they become actual physical dlc it means eventually people won't be able to get the content, hell it already happened when the UK shipment of splatoon amiibos got stolen.
>>323790959
sadly they are looking into the popular route instead of their other franchise.
Animal Crossing already has a lot of merchandise available that it didn't need an amiibo line up. The other games in the series need more in the lineup.
>>323791024
>Cause
I've heard the arguments.
However you can't have it both ways.
Either you don't want Amiibo to have interesting content, so nobody loses anything or you can have interesting content that is under threat of not being accessed by certain people.
Which is it?
>>323790218
Too bad the consumer decides what you're selling is good for and what it isn't. If amiibo had been successful in the way he hoped, shit like MP10 and Amiibo Festival would have taken over everything.
>>323791085
>sadly they are looking into the popular route
Okay so like every company ever. You guys would destroy any business you ran overprinting Ashley and Advance Wars amiibos, not realizing that despite intense niche demand, these things won't sell well.
/v/ often forgets how isolated we are as a market.
>>323791101
To not have physical dlc, obviously.
>>323790218
But they're all extremely limited in what they can do.
Like, look at the Chibi-Robo amiibo.
It's the only Chibi-Robo figurine available right now.
It's in-game function, compatible with only one, singular game, is that it puts your character into OP-mode.
But no, it shouldn't be a collector's item, it's truly the game companion we've all sought after for so long.
>>323791165
Okay, so then Amiibo will be used as collectibles and won't have interesting content, so don't complain about this.
>>323790218
I'm using ur mum as my collector item m8, if you nom sayan
>>323791173
That reminds me, will they add Corrin to STEAM when his/her amiibo comes out?
>>323791101
>Which is it?
not having physical dlc
>>323791239
Okay, see
>>323791212
>>323790962
I'm not hoarding or scalping them, I just picked up a Link, Mario, Fox one when they were first released because I thought they looked neat.
>>323791159
yeah because the animal crossing amiibo lineup is selling so well that all the stores are stockedpile on it. Even amazon is putting them up for sale.
That dude lips look like duck beak.
>>323790218
Sales are sales. Don't see why this is a problem。
>>323790218
Nintendo
>Originally a toy company
>eventually fails
>starts selling video games
>currently failing
>Resells toys with built in memory card, under the name Amiibo
>people treat them as toys
So history repeats itself?
>>323791212
But then they are mostly pointless and I'd prefer better merchandise
>>323790218
>software enhancer
Reminds me of a sentence enhancer.
>>323791173
Is that guy on the top right a Goron from Zelda?
>>323791305
In Japan that shit is selling like crazy. Another irritating thing about /v/ (and others mind you) is that they think their corner of the world is the only market.
>>323791331
>But then they are mostly pointless
Holy fuck you guys are imbeciles. They will never not be pointless unless they are ALSO restricting interesting content.
>>323791212
I already don't buy them because I don't like collectibles.
If they were at least sold as unlimited run toys like Skylanders it'd still be okay. But your idea to add actual content to them is a worse option than being able to buy collectors stuff.
Hell, if they're gonna be limited like Splatoon at least make them higher quality.
Also what the fuck is Miitomo this is the first I've heard of it.
>>323790218
>buy a Nintendo product
>Nintendo restricts its customers heavily so they only use it the way Nintendo wants them to
par for the course at this point OP
>>323790405
>Amiibos was supposed to be the thing that put Nintendo back on the map again, but instead it's being treated as an collectors item.
Citation needed. I don't believe they were ever advertised or talked about as a "putting Nintendo back on the map". They wanted very clearly to cash in on the Skylanders/DI fad and knew they're historical IPs would sell like hotcakes as figurines. Iwata made up some bullshit story about how he got a "stroke of genius" while on the subway but I find it very hard to believe it's "an original idea" and that a video game businessman somehow was not aware of the popularity of Skylander and Disney Infinity.
>>323790423
>Nintendo says "fuck you" to the collectors who are buying the figurines just to collect and have them. On top of that, there's another "fuck you" with limited stock and figures coming out in waves, making certain hard to get.
>They want people to buy and use them, but If they put more content in an amiibo, they are critcized for putting game content behind a physical paywall that is not always easy to attain.
>They don't want to alienate customers, but If they keep amiibo content limited, they're criticized for making the figures themselves useless beyond a neat little plastic Happy Meal collectable.
> If people only get them as collectables, Nintendo get's assmad people aren't "using them correctly" and they're right back to sqaure one.
kek. I mean I love to collect AND use the amiibos but Big N has really backed themselves into a corner on this one.
>Get an amiibo
>works in literally ONE GAME other than Smash
What's its name, /v/?
>create collector's market
>"why are people collecting these collector's items"
Honestly what did he even expect
figs of any kind were a bad idea from the start, I bet marketing knew exactly what they were doing
software enhancers my ass
>>323791390
Which is why I said
>and I'd prefer better merchandise
read before you spaz out at people
>>323790851
Only Shovel Knight. The rest have tin foil stopping you.
He should have stopped AC Amiibo Festival's development, then. Using an amiibo to replace a button and roll a die is hardly a "software enhancing" functionality.
>>323791330
But anon everyone loves Mario and nintendo exclusives are the best exclusives how could they be failing?monster hunter needs to come back to playstation so nintendo can't die soon enough
>>323791431
Fucking Shulk m8
>>323791397
>unlimited run toys
That is expensive and is like burning money if the demand peters out. You might not like the supply issues (which are mostly over on Amiibo, you can get all of them fairly cheap besides Gold Mario, all you need to do is import) but Nintendo made an intelligent decision in business terms around them.
>Also what the fuck is Miitomo this is the first I've heard of it.
Nothing to do with Amiibo, it's their first mobile software, doesn't seem to be a game really as much as a social app.
Promise me you won't lose your mind without learning more about it at any rate.
>>323790851
No, you cannot scan them in package. They have a strip that blocks it.
>>323790218
Based Oyabun is fucking signaling to the yakuza kobun to send a message and start shaking down scalpers. They're not seeing any profit from scalped sales, and only Nintendo gets to profit off their fans.
>>323791431
Don't all of them work in Mario Maker?
>>323791454
>and I'd prefer better merchandise
So there is no scenario where you want Amiibo, so why are you in this thread? If you're bored, check out
>>>/trash/
>>323791436
Here's your (You).
Remember irony is a slippery slope, and go back to reddit with your dank memes, please.
>>323791431
None, since that applies to no Amiibo as far as I'm aware.
>>323791431
Little Mac
Shulk
Olimar
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
My Shovel Knight Amiibo only works in Shovel Knight
>>323791580
Cause I'm criticizing them as a product you dyslexic toddler
The nature of them puts them in a trap of they can't have too much but having too little makes them pointless. People only buy them cause they like the characters thus make actually figures or decent statues of the characters not shit quality tiny amiibos
>>323791518
but Xenoblade 3D
>>323791519
I mean, I don't really think a mobile app is a good call since nintendo social features are so far behind steam and other consoles.
Also I agree about the limited runs. But it seems to work for Skylanders and infinity because those toys are marketed as toys and do something in a game. The amiibo don't do anything so rheyre fine as collectibles but if they did do something there'd need to be more of them available or your average non-preorder consumer would be missing content. And even then I think selling dlc figures is wrong.
>>323791541
Yes they are. Scalpers don't fucking magic the product, they bought it of Nintendo.
They make more profit when people are queuing up outside shops to scalp all the amiibos than when the demand is low and they're left on the shelves.
>>323791703
>Cause I'm criticizing them as a product
Criticizing something you won't buy under any scenario is retarded. Feel free to be retarded, I will call you out on it though.
>>323791454
>literally little Wii fit trainer and Ness figurines for reasonable prices
>not good merchandise
Compared to literally what else? Good smile/figuarts and those companies have really limited runs of their merch and only do like one figure a month or something stupid like that. Plushies are limited to like two series. What other merchandise would you want? The alternative was going to be folders or stickers to put on your 3ds, of only Mario characters.
>>323790218
I don't believe you
japan, the only fig seller in the whole world saying collecting fig isn't the way to use them
I don't believe a single word
>>323791713
>One game other than Smash
Boy, reading sure is hard
>>323791909
But Shulk works in Mario Maker as well.
>>323791717
>nintendo social features are so far behind steam and other consoles.
This isn't related to consoles though, it's a mobile-only thing and its clearly them experimenting with it.
>The amiibo don't do anything so rheyre fine as collectibles but if they did do something there'd need to be more of them available or your average non-preorder consumer would be missing content
Well that's the dilemma.
I don't believe that people would stop complaining if the prevalence went up. If Nintendo made good content locked behind them, there would be whiners. Peruse this thread to see some of them.
Also, you might be unaware but Amiibo aren't really experiencing shortages now. Maybe in-store but if you can buy online, it's very, very, very easy to import. I live in Canada and we have a garbage dollar at the moment and I can still get basically any Amiibo except Lucina and Gold Mario for a reasonable price.
This is nothing like how it was during wave 3 and 4 when it was just nowhere. The shipping strikes resolved themselves and Nintendo upped the supply on more recent waves.
It really is a non-issue, unless you're limited to in-store purchases.
>>323791805
Pretty much this. I don't foresee any other way i'm going to get a Little Mac figure unfortunately.
>>323791747
Oh wow you have to use play ground tactics and can't even address points
>>323791805
Are you trying to make an arguement where amiibos are super easy to get? Plus most are not worth what they cost as the quality is so low
>What other merchandise would you want?
see >>323791703 Doing so isn't even odd for nintendo, tehy have made figures and statues in the past
>>323791938
That doesn't count because I don't want to lose this argument.
>>323791938
In that regard all Smash amiibo's work in Yoshi's Wooly World and Super Mario Maker, so none of them only work in one game other than Smash.
>>323791813
So salty.
>>323791746
Scalper plz go. Do you really think a scalper buying any stores 5 stock of a rare amiibo helps Nintendo?
>>323791995
>Oh wow you have to use play ground tactics and can't even address points
There is nothing to address.
>I wouldn't want Amiibo under any scenario
>I want to criticize them as a product, to no end result given the previous statement
Great, feel free, you are a moron wasting your time.
>>323791431
>Have pikachu and the splatoon trio
Having the trio was really the only reason I wanted inklings in smash
>>323791360
It's clearly Chewbacca.
>>323791938Didn't know thatYou'll pay for this next time, Captain Planet
>>323790642
>P5
>PS4
delusion tier
>>323791416
Either Disney or Activision pitched the idea to Nintendo originally, IICR. Nintendo said no, the company did their own thing - now N is going on the bandwagon. Which company was it though? I forget.
>>323792060
It helps them as much as a normal fan buying them (a sale is a sale it doesn't make a difference who bought it) and arguably more helpful because a lack of amiibos on the shelves makes people think they're rare and drives them to collect.
>>323792038
Yoshi is another good example. I can see why you wouldn't count Hyrule Warriors or that game that lets you try NES demos because they don't unlock relevant content.
>>323792245
Activision was first with it so presumably them
>>323790218
>don't treat amiibo as collectors toys
>please treat them as DLC
Neo-Nintendo is the worst
>>323790642
>cutting off the ending
could you be any more of a rabid Sonygger?
>>323792245
Wow, really? Did not know that.
>>323791235
Or Roy?
>>323792327
Amazing.
>>323792562
>>323792327
samefag
fuck nintendo those greedy jews, if they really cared about gaming or the people they'd release smash bros to steam and stop producing shitty consoles
they'd probably turn a profit for once
>>323790218
But I am using them, there is not much use to them tho. They're also pretty expensive for my budget too.
>>323792865
>release to steam
>everyone just pirates it
This is why companies don't like PC releases.
>>323793209
Kek pretty sure 3ds just got blown the fuck out with piracy. Nintendo is used to it.
>>323790583
So not only I have to deal with scalpers and collectors, now I also have to deal with faggots buying all the amiibos?
I will never get that bayo amiibo if this goes on
>>323793284
Not everyone is going to pirate on 3DS, same way a lot of people didn't with the standard DS.
>>323792327
>>323790218
I would totally use my amiibos for more stuff if they added cooler features in games. Like, I loved getting the costumes in Wooley World, but other than that, what features even are there? They marketed it mostly for Sm4sh, but that's still just playing with bots
>>323793284
>blown the fuck out
>been out for 5 years
The PSP was the only handheld really blown the fuck out by piracy and that goes for its software sales. It's hardware sales did decent as a result.
>>323793729
>if they added cooler features in games
But muh locked content.
>unironically paying for nintendo products
>>323792939
I don't understand why Gamecube didn't sell well.
>Pretty good hardware (last time Nintendo was competitive really)
>better controller than the wtf 64 controller
>strong launch titles
>durable, unlike the PS2 which looked like you could break it by touching it
>>323790218
>pretending it's not cancerous IRL DLC
>>323790218
if they didn't want them treating it like collector's items then perhaps they shouldn't have fucking made artificial supply constraints and limited edition amiibos.
fucking duh
>>323794107
A lot of people were probably put off by mini discs. It was a pretty good console though
>>323794107
because no dvds
that was literally it, ps2 sold for the same reason the wii did, a paper-thin reasoning for people who dont actually play videogames to be interested in it despite that causing a social resonance that made EVERYONE want one
>is not physical DLC I swear
>is just harmless cosmetics, it don't matter
>is bonuses
If you an amiibo-enabler, kill the fuck out yourself
>>323793209
only children still pirate
literally the moment i got a job pirating got old
fuck I've even bought music one time
Probably been said but it should be obvious that Nintendo are the ones using them wrong. Their collectability is the only reason they are popular at all, and most people would probably prefer to do without the software interaction. It's just a way to lock content behind crappy toys.
>>323793729
The only other features have been as game pieces in crappy virtual board games and to lock content. Splatoon locks a whole bunch of challenges and their unlockables (which include minigames) behind amiibos. Hyrule Warriors locks a weapon behind amiibo, specifically the Link or Toon Link amiibos.
>>323790810
And yet skylabders and disney infinity make fuck tons of money a year, Nintendo proves as usual they are disconected from reality and fucking retarded as usual.
>>323795663
>And yet skylabders and disney infinity make fuck tons of money a year
What is your complaint here?
http://www.consulgamer.com/game_platforms/amiibo-sales-surprise-with-data/2442/
Amiibo is the largest portion of Toys to Life Market and that's with much less time in the market and with a meager first year in terms of supply.
If your complaint is supply, you should know already that it's largely been remedied. You can import everything pretty cheap (with a couple of exceptions).
>>323792865
>they'd probably turn a profit for once
They are one of the most profitable video game companies that ever existed. That includes even with the Wii-U sales drought.
This might upset you, but the reality is that they've done very well over the decades. You can feel free to complain about things they do poorly though.
I fucking hate amiibos, but shouldn't nintendo be happy people want to get them all? If I was in his position I'd be happy people were obsessing over them.
>>323792327
Why is this post still up? All the other shitposts got deleted. Why does this one get to stay up?
>>323795974
My complaint is that they are not making software that utilizes their toys at all, if you're getting a toys for life game to play then Skylanders or Disney is a better buy. Nintendo's method just gives you a dick hat in multiple games and no real stellar unlock for any particular game.
Where as the competitors make almost all their character toys have lasting use and work just as well for the proceesing installments of their games. Nintendo is archaic and refuses to utilize their toys as anything but collectibles and they fucking complain over it.
I work at a gamestore and the stock of amiibos have hardly sold where as supercharhers and disney have steadily sold out.
>>323791202
You've got a point. I got the game and amiibo bundle and I don't even have a dock to scan it on.
Used it in Mario Maker, but its main purpose is just to look good on my shelf.
>>323794958
I still pirate music by big record companies, but if it's an indie label or some dude on Bandcamp I'll pay for the album.
> you have to collect toys to play games on Nintendo
Jesus fuck. I hope this never comes to PC
Clearly people don't want to use them as software enhancers, they want to collect them. A smart company would capitalize on this instead of complaining about it. They should be happy people are spending money on their dumb gimmicky shit at all.
>>323796691
>My complaint is that they are not making software that utilizes their toys at all
Again this is held back by
>muh locked content
people. Nobody seems to whine about this with Skylanders and the like just with Nintendo.
If the argument is that supply is too low and that's the problem, it's already being fixed and will only become better moving forward so I don't really understand. Maybe people are out of touch and think you still can't find anything but Mario Bros. figures.
if they want them to be fucking software enhancers they should produce them in quantities appropriate for software enhancers instead of ones appropriate for collectibles
This is beyond fucking obvious, what's wrong with Nintendo
>>323796976
Trading cards and badges don't even have in-game utility and people still collect and trade them.
>>323796976
See people like this are why they can't make Amiibo have really beneficial things.
I'm not even saying it's bad but this attitude is why they won't make them tied to bigger things.
>>323790218
"software enhancers."
I dont want "software enhancers." No one I've talked to wants "software enhancers." They only want the figures for their shelves.
I thought amiibos were supposed to work both as collectors items and as game bonuses. Anyways I have scanned the few amiibos I have into their compatible games but it's not like they give anything particularly substantial...
>>323797126
They should do what activision and disney are doing then, "Fuck off someone else is buying them then."
What idiots who have no interest in a product think a product shouls be, should not depict the manufacturing or creation of said product.
>software enhancers
But the way the amiibos are used in most Nintendo games are cosmetic, and have no effect in enhancing the game.
The only games that use amiibos to their fullest are the games that lock off a big chunk of content that can only be activated via amiibo.
>>323790405
I think it is more them saying "Holy shit why are you keeping them in their packaging, they are not limited edition they are mass produced and will never be more valuable"
Why don't they just sell DLC packs like everyone else? People will pay for stuff like that and you don't need to produce physical products. Amiibo stupid af
>>323791447
They're saying in the most polite way possible "WHY AREN'T CONSUMERS BUYING WII U GAMES TO GO WITH THEIR AMIIBOS, THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE MADE THEM, TO SELL WII U GAMES TO CASUALS"
>>323791541
the Shovel Knight amiibo doesn't have the silver strip. Either Yacht Club cares about NiBfags or they got lazy.
Money's on lazy.
>>323798686
no they are just mad that the Animal Crossing line of amiibo is shelf sitting more than Peach.
>pls buy Lottie guise
>>323790218
So Nintendo is surprised that the collectable models aren't selling games. Honestly they should just accept that nobody likes little unlockables and completely separate the figurines from the games. The games would be better served and so would the figures since they could be made a better price if the nfc tech wasn't a concern.
>>323790583
>that youtube description
Fucking hell
>>323790218
>no one is buying the animal crossing amiibo
>no one is buying the animal crossing amiibo festival other than to use Isabeau as a buttplug
>only moonland bought Happy Home Designer
>Lottie, the game's mascot to be worst selling amiibo of all time
>WHY U NO RIKE AMIIBO?
make a zelda line so i can get a link that doesn't look retarded.
