Literally the best Mario game to date.
That isn't Mario Galaxy
the textures look pretty nice
>D-Pad controls
>Run button with slow start-up time
No.
Despite all this game added--and it added quite a bit--it's ultimate undoing was completely ruining the perfect controls Mario 64 had mastered. It was made for the analog stick and this came and threw that perfect fluidity out the window.
>BUT THE 3DS
doesn't magically reprogram the game.
>>323676023
>Literally the best Mario game to date.
You should specify 3D
>>323676459
Actually works flawlessly using the 3ds circle pad, don't know what you're talking about anon.
>>323676708
>doesn't magically reprogram the game.
In what way is it flawless? I'm gonna go ahead and guess you never played the original.
>>323676839
By original do you mean 64 original or ds original?
I've played both but to be fair it's been a while since I played the 64 version.
if you can play as wario then it probably is
>>323676839
the controls are responsive and the physics are satisfying
don't know how to explain in detail but the handle in 64ds is more restrictive in more ways than no variable speeds and 8 cardinal directions
>>323676930
>ds original
what the fuck?
>it's been a while
Then replay it and realize the tremendous hit the DS took in its directional accuracy, considering you're locked into 8 directions. And how do you run in the original? You just tilt upwards and you're running instantly. This speed is what allows speedrunners to instantly parkour and maneuever with amazing flow.
>>323677421
you literally just tilt less? I'm not even sure what you're saying here, unless you replied to the wrong guy.
The controls on Mario64 DS were terrible.
The game is flawed but it's not because of the controls. Not the d-pad, at least. It's difficult to both run and attack at the same time though, and that's the worst thing aboutt the controls.
The worst thing about the game is that annoying character switching. And Wario is shit. It shouldn't have been forced, it should be optional or something. The character switching is annoying.
>>323676930
This comment screams I never touched the 64 and I grew up with the ds. Sick of you newfags.
>>323677641
Why do people like you always come into 64DS threads saying the same things like a broken record?
I have both 64 and 64DS and I enjoy both of them. Fuck off.
>>323676023
That's not Paper Mario.
>>323676023
You serious? Literally one of thr most mediocre mario games. This spit in the face of everything Mario 64 and miyamoyo stood for with flawless controls. I swear he must have not even touched this game, or at least turned a blind eye just so they could have something to help the DS's abysmal launch lineup
The new content would be amazing if they ever remake it in hd or some shit.
If it was on 3DS instead of DS it'd be 100 times better.
>>323678345
the controls are terrible though
and it's not just the lack of an analog stick like >>323677908 said
>>323678345
>waaah you're all wrong, why do keep posting this! ;_;
>doesn't even explain why
Why are millenials such cry babies
So am I one of the few who had absolutely no problem with the dpad controls at all?
The only times I struggled were using Luigi's backflip, where he spins to slow his descent, but refused to go in the direction I wanted sometimes.
>best game
A slow run button is the WORST thing you could have done to mario 64.
>>323678623
>>323678345
samefag
>>323678623
Isn't that more of a problem with the camera? I agree, the dpad was okay, it worked. It has been a while since I played it, but I think it was annoying to walk slowly too, how you had to quickly mash the walk button.
>mfw I played using the touch screen
>>323678559
I never said anyone was wrong. Anon is absolutely correct. But it still doesn't justify wanting to shit up every single thread where some people might want to talk about something other than the fallacy of the fucking D-pad controls.
>>323676023
Has someone made a hack for Mario 64 that puts the extra levels from DS in the game?
>>323678826
Holy shit remember that weird thumb pad wrist strap thing that you could use?
Still amazed it existed
>>323679516
Yeah but I could never get a hang of it, I just used the stylus.
so you're telling me that you throw bowser by mashing 4 directions on a dpad? The stick is like the entire philosophy behind those fights.
>>323678957
>make an audacious statement like a port with inferior controls is the best Mario game of all time
>not even 3D, of all time
>surprised when people tell point out why it's wrong
>>323679767
I used the dpad normally, but when I picked up Bowser I switched to stylus. Worked fine.
>>323679946
like it supports both at once, or did you have to press start and switch?
>>323680012
You can always walk with the touchscreen. If you need an angle the dpad doesn't support you can also adjust with the touchscreen without entering any menus.
>>323679915
You're justifying your right to be baited. Jesus christ you people are stupid.
>>323676023
3D World is the greatest multiplayer Mario though
>>323676023
I like this game a lot, but I doubt it's the best Mario game.
>>323680217
>xD everything is le bait! We got you!
It doesn't matter. It's still the truth and it's going to be said anytime the game gets brought up. Even if OP wasn't bait, I'd still pop in to say it. Especially now that I know it triggers you so badly :^)
>>323680539
Yeah I love coming onto /v/ and reading pages of anons trying to prove each other wrong 24/7.
Lemme lay you down some knowledge, bros.
Top 5 Mario games
1) Super Mario RPG / Paper Mario / Paper Mario 2, all tied
2) Yoshi's Island
3) Super Mario Galaxy
4) Donkey Kong, Gameboy
5) Super Mario World / Bros. 3, tied
If Yoshi's Island isn't accepted, then move Galaxy up one and putSuper Mario Strikers Charged on fifth
>>323676023
>2004
>Release an enhanced port of an old game
>3 more playable characters
>30 new stars
>New powerups and old stars changed
>Graphical enhancements and new minigames
>2014
>Release an enhanced port of an old game
>Graphical enhancements and a new fishing area
>Nothing else
When did Nintendo get so fucking lazy?
>>323681340
2/10 pretty bad bro
>>323681708
let's hear 'em then m80
>>323681671
What's the matter? The actual image got auto-flagged for the spam it is?
You poor thing.
>>323681840
wut
>>323681671
Made by completely different developers, bro
>>323681975
Eh, Same studio, different team.
Still, the same team that released OoT 3D did a lazier job with MM3D
>complaining about the dpad
Worked fine for me :^)
>>323676023
Can you map the analog stick on a controller to the touch screen?
That would make the game playable. Otherwise it's just a crappy port.
they ruined the style of mario 64. and the controls suck. your a fag
Not even close... SM64 was amazing for its time but it has a ton of flaws, like the sloppy camera controls, long stretches of land devoid of platforming, and the acrobatic movement options which completely break most of the platforming challenge the game even has, resulting in people relying on glitches and speedrun tricks to get any enjoyment out of the game....
Super Mario Galaxy is by far the closest the Mario series has ever gotten to absolute perfection. The levels were designed around fixed camera angles, allowing you to freely move around and focus on the platforming without having to fight the camera. The game plays much more fluidly this way. Also it made great use of the wiimote pointer, allowing you to explore the background scenery to collect starbits, and adding stuff like pull stars and bubble blowing segments.
Look past your nostalgia, and play both of these games back to back and it becomes extremely obvious that SMG is the more fun and well designed game.
>>323682693
>controls suck
the 64 stick was already designed with 8 way motion in mind, the D-pad is adequate at
replicating it
>muh spooky dino
if they could have fit those polys onto the original they would have.
>>323682560
playing a 3D platformer with a touchscreen is even worse than a dpad. Especially with the DS layout.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TZwoJ1i.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>323682693
>His original appearance scared some children
Not as much as this fucker.
>>323682852
Yeah, my point is that if you could emulate it and use a stick for the touch screen input it'd actually be OK.
>>323679767
>mashing 4 directions on a dpad?
Yes, are you a fucking down syndrome child? It's fucking effortless.
I could even wall kick all the way up to the castle roof using two perpindicular walls the controls were so good. Fucking moron. What shitty, baseless attempt to deride a game so you can claim that your favorite is better.
>>323677641
>speedrunners
Posts and opinion discarded
I wonder if it's possible to do any of this kinda shit in the DS version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
>>323682841
>>323683123
triggered samefag detected. I like how you can't even bring yourself to mention the run button.
>dpad is adequate
nope. That octagon on the n64 controller is more for an aesthetic than anything. The game was programmed more intricately than 8 directions.
>>323679516
now you've got me curious
>>323682693
>mario 64
>style
kek
>>323683172
>taking advantage of the game's momentum and physics doesn't make the game fun as hell
speedrunning itself is dumb, but the technique in controlling mario is something anyone should learn to make their next playthrough more fun. I'm not saying use the techniques to beat every level in a second. I'm saying use the techniques to have fun with the playground environment mario 64 set for the players to mess around with.
>>323682884
lol
>>323683294
Oh look, a moron who makes baseless statements made a baseless statement.
>Duh the controls are precise on the N64
They sure are, and a directional pad is a fantastic way to control the game, I prefer it for this game actually. Why so glum anon?
not even the best Super Mario 64 game to date
What if someone programmed the Rom or the Emulator so that the run button is always held?
>>323683642
point out what baseless statement I said before that. For someone making the baseless statement of saying I'm glum (I would love for you to point to what word you tried to twist to fit that portrayal), you sure like to get presumptious in a raging fury.
>I prefer it so it's better
that's because you have shit taste :^) Nice job ignoring the run button again. You're game is flawed. It added controls that don't mesh well with the original designs and intents. Shit, this in of itself is a disgrace
>>323679516
Sorry you had to get asshurt over your childhood being attacked. Stay assblasted
>>323684489
"Thank you Tom, I'm standing outside of this home, where a young man suffering from severe autism shot himself in the head after being proven wrong on the online chat room known as foowrchaan"
>>323676023
I fuckingagree.
New Super Mario Bros DS was also very good, but should have had more than 5 multiplayer maps, and a deathmatch-mode.
Speaking of which, why the fuck did SM64DS have 4-player, but only in restricted multiplayer maps? Fuck, coop would've been fun.
>>323676132
>muh textures on a DS game
Fuck off
>>323684882
Yeah I know. The dude couldn't even address the running thing. Poor guy. Autism is a tough life.
>>323678559
>le millenial
Unless you're 40+ years old, you're also a millenial.
>>323685149
NSMB had a great MP, SP was dog shit
>>323676023
>Wario doing shoulder bash on the cover
You misleading fuckers
>>323684882
>>323685241
Fuckin savage
>>323677908
>It shouldn't have been forced, it should be optional or something.
It is optional.
>>323679516
>no one knew how amazing it was for aiming in FPS games
>completely demolished everyone online in Metroid Prime Hunters, because they used the stylus pen
Good times.
I bought the Steam controller pretty much based on my great experience with the DS thumb nub alone, and I find that UT2k4 instagib is fully playable with it. Haven't had this much fun with a controller in a long while.
>>323682841
>muh spooky dino
>>323680405
>3D World
>not Super Mario War
Holy shit, nigguh, you've been missing out.
>>323685565
No, there are some points of the game that force you to use certain characters to progress. One example being the poison gas that obly Luigi can het through with hia power up in the mines red coins. Another would be in the bay when you need Wario and his metal power up to get the whirlpool star.
>>323685323
most people agree millennials are from 1980/1985 to 1995/2000
The new Gen is already posting here famicon
I never had a problem with the controls, the d pad worked fine for the game
>>323685518
there's a nice squid
>>323682805
>bitch about bad camera
>says Galaxy is better
You're a fucking idiot.
>>323681340
>picked up charge yesterday
I wasn't expecting a football game to be that good.
>>323682693
not gunna lie, was pretty spooped
>>323685756
>1980 was 36 years ago
My point exactly. You have to be around 40 years old to not be a millenial.
>>323681671
>2004
>remake a game
>2014
>make a port that makes retards angry because they don't know the difference between a port and a remake
>>323685861
>the opponent starts a dry bones charge
>mash the item button and pray for mercy
>>323685375
Might very well be, I didn't play much of it, to be honest.
Got hundreds of hours of MP in that thing, though. And the minigames were awesome too (mostly the same as in 64DS, though).
>>323678403
Just play it on a 3ds with the circle pad, dummy.
>>323685740
It's optional because you don't need to so it fuck off you bitch
>>323685740
Anon, you can finish the game without using anyone else.
100%-ing the game is a different story.
>>323686117
I did.
>>323686727
You obviously didn't.
>>323676023
>there are people who didnt whoop ass as Wario in multiplayer
>they didnt play this game in class with other friends in 8th grade
sounds like a lot of you are kucked
>>323683479
if you go look at the concept art, bowser looks exactly like he does now, minus a few textures. They must've rushed a few models for the console release
>>323686789
>3ds must have just patched it!
lol
The DS was pretty amazing
>Best Mario
>Best Mario Kart
>Best Contra
>Best Castlevania
>Only Lego game with deathmatch (Star Wars Trilogy something)
>backwards compatible with second best Nintendo system (Wario Land 4 best Wario Land)
>Best homebrew (Spout Extended, Marhsmellow Duel DS, Pizzaworm DS)
>Best VNs
>Best Advance Wars
>Best multiplayer Tenchu
>Best multiplayer console FPS ever (Metroid Quake: Hunters)
etc.
>>323676023
That doesn't look like it runs on the NES.
>>323687028
I was way too good for my friends, so they refused to play with me.
Same with MKDS and Metroid Prime Hunters.
>>323687408
>that doesn't look like trash
Right you are, Anon.
>>323687515
>insanely gratuitous artistic liberties on Peach
>then that fucking Bowser
>>323676023
And it's 12 years old.
>>323687625
Yeah, it looks worse, especially now that it's aged and it's awful resolution shows. Whereas 8 bit games hardly age.
>>323687886
NES games did, though. 99% of them look fucking horrid.
Even GB games look a lot better.
SNES is where the true beauties are at, though.
>>323682279
SM64DS was made by EAD, the Zelda 3D games were made by Grezzo
>>323687886
Nigger what.
8 bit games age like milk.
Stylized 3d games on the other hand never age which is why people still like shit like the wind waker visually.
>>323683538
I like to play as Wario, I don't care about speed, I just like to bully the fuck out of everyone since when he gets hit he doesn't go anywhere, but when he punches an enemy, they fly across the map. So satisfying, and playing the whole game as Wario is challenging as well.
>>323688181
>>323688294
Mario Bros 3 looks exactly as good as it did back then.
that's not Galaxy
>>323682693
Honestly, the redesign is far better because it actually looks like something from a Mario game.
>>323687315
>>Best multiplayer console FPS ever (Metroid Quake: Hunters)
What
>>323688689
My nigga
Is there a way to map an analog stick to the touch screen in an emulator so it would work more like the original?
After picking up the game again after so long I can see how the controls remove some of what made SM64 so innovative (you can't change direction as fast even if you're using the 3DS' analog pad) The DS version is still very playable, though.
>>323687315
Metroid Hunters was good yeah but the best console FPS EVER? fuck off.
>>323688812
Name a better one?
Protip:You can't.
>>323688928
Galaxy made me fall in love with Nintendo games again after my period of playing a shit ton of gritty FPS and RPG's. now I'm at a point where I love them all equally
>>323679516
The thumb pad was amazing. It was definitely better than playing on a loose N64 analog stick.
>>323689015
Oh shit, you just reminded me of how much I hate that. Before he would instantly flip around, but to turn around in the ds they do this sort of walk-around thing. It felt kinda sluggish. I guess they were going for a 180?
>>323689243
literally any Halo game by Bungie. fuck it, literally any Halo game. I hate all CoD games save 4/5 too but I'd go as far as saying they're all better too. because it's a handheld game.
>>323688294
>8-bit games look like shit
>Low poly trash from n64 era are great
Talk about shit taste, man.
>>323689054
see
>>323689243
There has never been any other console game which comes anywhere close to being a proper arena FPS with precise aiming and fast-paced vertical movement.
>>323682693
the remade one fits the mario universe better
>>323676023
N64 version had better controls and the levels were 'bigger'. DS version was also padded with unnecessary and boring minigames.
>>323689382
>Halo anything
>UT's slow and retarded cousin, who used magnetic bullets and analog sticks for aiming them
Literally kill yourself, buddy.
>>323689396
No one said anything about the N64 you retard.
>>323688678
Every game does but it doesn't mean it holds up. That's the issue.
>>323689615
compared to a shitty fucking handheld game? yeah, it's better.
>>323689260
I'm RIGHT there with ya. The wii needed that shit bad. One of the few things to get me hyped was the true next 3D Mario--the next big step. We knew it. Nintendo knew it. And that's why the game starts off so epic. It's a welcome back before it begins a whole new wave of innovative mechanics. That's why it starts off on a level plane before thrusting you into a planet.
And then it just keeps getting better. The score. The ambient space traversing. The new bowser fights to finally rival the feeling I experienced when fighting him in 64. The lumas, the costumes and mechanics, and the ending--it's so fuckin good.
When I think of the wii, Galaxy and Punch out are always the first to come to mind.
>>323689382
>Halo and CoD
Goddamit, I swear kids today are the worst.
>>323689716
>>323689382
>shitty because it's on a handheld
>not because of gameplay mechanics or anything else which is even remotely relevant
You're a fucking mongoloid.
>>323689918
>yfw Metroid fans don't care about anything but aesthetics
You think bungiedrones would care about anything when the actual fans don't?
>>323689243
>>323689918
Metroid prime hunters multiplayer was fucking GOAT, too bad there was too many hackers
Speaking of sm64ds, anyone see this dude importing fludd and sunshine levels/bosses into the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCdWSCwikY
>>323690621
>metroid fans
>aesthetics
I don't care about either. I think Metroid Prime (SP) is a shitty series, and the aesthetics are decent enough, but nothing spectacular.
The Hunters MP gameplay, though, that was spectacular.
>>323689918
gameplay mechanics are fucking LIMITED by the fact that it's a handheld. it was complete shit.
>>323690885
>gameplay mechanics are fucking LIMITED
The fact that it used the touch screen for aiming and switching weapons meant that it could be a lot more faster than most console shooters.
>>323690863
>didn't like Prime series
>liked Hunters
ok. you can stop pretending now
That's not 3D World
>nb4 sunshine fags
>nb4 cinematic camera angle Galaxy fags
>>323690885
Yet nowhere near as limited as a shooting game made for an analog stick, strangely enough.
Have you even played it?
The only "limits" is that the pad doesn't provide complete mouse precision, and that the hardware doesn't provide the most beautiful 3D rendering. It's also on a small screen.
But in terms of gameplay mechanics (speed, movement, precision, verticality, momentum, weapons) it's right up there with UT and Quake, and the input system is faaaaaaar superiour to shitty console controllers.
Try to play a real game some day, fucknugget.
Here's a good starting point:
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/3871279/Quake_3_Arena_Full
>>323691120
Didn't care much for the singleplayer of Hunters either, but the input system was far better than the Prime series (1-3).
>>323690851
that's a cool novelty, and props to the dude who did it. Bit I'd never see myself playing the game like this. Wouldn't feel right without analog triggers
>>323691275
I've always thought that SMW and 3D World and SM64 are the 3 equal top games.
there's probably zero people with that opinion though
>>323691927
no zero people since you think so already
>>323693360
man there are some crazy autists in this thread
