Are you VR ready?
>i7 4790K @ 4.25GHz
>Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 980 4GB @ 1350/7500MHz
>16GB DDR3
Ehhh yeah I guess. Still want to go X99 with Skylake-E and GTX X80 Pascal. DDR4 should be delicious too.
>>323660125
Whoops. It's been so long since I've upgraded. Feeling like toaster life with every waking moment...
>970 can generally run games at high to very high settings at 60FPS
>suddenly through the power of hype goggles it can now run games at ULTRA at almost 90FPS - TWICE (2 times)
I don't know about this VR stuff but someone is getting fooled that's for sure.
>>323660125
>>323660256
Still stuck with this;
- Intel i7 3770K
- EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified
- 16GB 2400MHz DDR3
Definitely going with Skylake i7 6700K and the GTX 1080 Pascal when they hit.
>>323660360
>implying VR renders frames twice per second
You fucking moron.
It's essentially the same as active stereoscopic 3D. It renders a frame once every 1/90th of a second per eye at different angles. So essentially you are getting better perfromance since each frame is running at half the total VR resolution.
Don't be so retarded.
>>323660360
This. If a 970 is barely capable of running GTAV at max settings at 60fps on a regular display, how the hell can it run GTAV at 90fps when it's on two separate displays?
This Oculus thing is gonna bomb so hard.
>>323661142
>how do i technology
Idiot.
>>323659643
I'm PS4 VR ready
Otherwise, no. And probably won't be for more than half a decade when I buy my next PC and it just so happens to be able to handle VR. My current PC runs all games I'm interested in even at 3k, be it PS2 emulation or mid-range games. And Witcher3 60fps but at 1080p.
I see no reason to waste such a large ammount of money ($800+ for Rift because Yuropoor, and whatever PC upgrade I'd need, nearly doubling the price) when I can just get a PSVR with no further upgrades needed for the rest of this generation
My guess is that a whole lot of people are in the same position as me. Perfectly capable PC that runs anything you'd want, but not good enough for VR. Even if the PSVR price leak was true it would be much less expensive than PC VR for me.
>>323661403
>silky smooth 14fps @ 720p
#justsonyggerthings
>>323661523
OP, I know you are just shitposting to have other people bump your thread. But come on, no need to be this desperate.
Everything's fine now... there, there...
>>323661674
I just feel so sorry for you Sonyggers. So ignorant yet you don't learn anything from your mistakes. It's like you're all habitually retarded or something.
>what VRfags actually believe
>>323661857
I like how being an idort with a PC better than 80% of steam users (statistically) makes me a sonygger
But go ahead, tell me why I'm ignorant and a sony fanboy. I'll be having fun with EDF4.1 while waiting for Dragon'sDogma release until you do
>>323661950
my guess is that the box won't help with performance, it'll just alleviate any extra VR-related processes, reprojection and sending the image to the TV
Any PS4 VR game will still need to use the PS4 for native 60 / 90 / 120
>>323662339
Sure thing Sonygger.
>>323661950
Please don't lump us with the Sonyggers.
>>323659643
i7 6700k R9 390 ready.
I hope VR uses a shitload of VRAM so I can rub it into 970 faces.
>>323661674
really whats the fps?
You cant just slap motion blur now like all the other console games.
>>323662815
Unfortunately for you AMDrones, both the Vive and Rift are Nvidia VR Optimized. So your R9 390 will be tiered with say the low-end GTX 950.
>>323659643
So where does a Radeon HD 6970 place on that list?
>>323663013
Someones butthurt he got 3.5 GB of ram and can't do async.
>>323663137
>3.5GB
Good thing I have a GTX 980 ;^)
>>323662672
>>323662743
>no new IPs
>pretending to be two different people
>doubleposting for bumps
Nice
>>323662837
Depends in each game, just like now. The worst ones will be 60fps reprojected to 120, but Sony is pushing developers to avoid 60 altogether and aim for 90fps minimum or the recommended 120fps
We'll see where most end up with, I didn't get to ask what fps the PSVR demos were running at. And I don't think we know the fps of full-er games like Battlezone, AC7, GTS, 100thRobootGolf, etc. just yet
>>323663301
>reprojected
LOL
Just making up stupid shit.
>>323663301
>90fps
>120fps
>>323659643
how? how does GeForce GTX 980 Ti at $600 still outperform these expensive shits?
how?
Would an i7 6700k with a 980 Ti fare any good on those charts?
i7 4790k at 4.6GHz
Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 at 1.5GHz
24GB DDR 3
>tfw considering upgrading to a 980 Ti because Pascal is taking too long
Missed out on the Gigabyte 980 Ti for $540 on Newegg yesterday. Shoulda bought one.
> It is worth nothing that the GM200 taped out in June and hit the shelves in March. That is a total time of approximately 9 months. The GM204 on the other hand took only five months to hit the shelves from its tape out date. Since we are on a younger node however, the schedule could be different this time around, making it harder for large dies to be produced economically.
>>323660256
What case is that? looks nice
>>323659643
Everytime I see this I wonder how come a Quadro M5000 costs 2k dollars and it's outclassed by a 315 buckaroos card.
Is the Quadro focused on doing something else like rendering or what? what's missing here? I genuinely don't understand.
>>323664172
There's a newer, slimmer RVZ02 now but that doesn't have any case fan mounts.
>>323664276
Yes, it's not meant for gaymen.
>>323664414
Then why the fuck is it 2000 dollars? who would buy that overpriced as fuck card when for 20% of it's price you can have something better?
Can it do something magical?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sZMbJ2B.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>323664524
Quadro cards have special drivers that boost performance in programs such as Maya and 3dsMax. These cards also are more accurate than GeForce. Take for example a model in AutoCad. When using a Quadro, it will look accurate. But when using a GeForce it will be a little off, or not as accurate as the Quadro. Also because businesses will pay $2000.
>>323664524
>Can it do something magical?
Yep.
ECC memory, unlocked FP64 double precision, exclusive software and hardware support.
They're designed for science/oil/medical research targeted for efficiency and accuracy rather than pure GPU grunt.
>>323664524
It's for like research and stuff, for like calculation-heavy stuff running on really fast hardware. I think they generally are used for processing massive amounts of stuff over the course of weeks.
Ignore them and go for traditional graphics cards.
>>323663602
It's old tech, I don't know what you're smoking to think it doesn't exist.
Here's an example of 24fps (mostly 12 fps for character animation) turned into 60fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKtn_ldhSSw
Of course rendering a frame in a game is different from playing a video file, but the end result is comparable to that (except it's 60>120 instead of 12~24>60)
Battlezone is 60fps reprojected to 120, confirmed by the dev. But that's not the ideal situation. Aiming for 90/120 would be better
>>323664297
I'm actually looking to make my own case, but just interesting to see how they've fitted everything in. The way they've placed the graphics card is a good idea to get it thin, just need to find a riser cable long enough to do that.
>Intel HD Graphics
>i7 with 8gb of RAM
You tell me. Shit's nice, but way fucking underpowered for $800; never ever let your family know you're interested in getting/building a new PC. It's one of the greatest gestures someone can offer to someone like us, buying them a new PC, and I'm as thankful as possible, but it is very true they don't know what they're buying.
You learn to love the things everyone else hates, though. No VR or amazing-looking games for me for another decade, probably. And that's just fine.
>>323659643
>r9 295x2 lower than gtx 970
Is this sponsored by nvidia?
>>323659643
God damn I honestly didn't expect my good old GTX 780 Ti to age that we'll.
>>323664903
The GPU is hiding underneath the SSDs and ODD. It's a bitch to work with, but extremely satisfying when it just all werks. The RVZ02 is apparently easier to work with, but like I said doesn't have case fans.
>>323665052
The Rift and Vive are both Nvidia VR optimized, so yeah.
>>323665290
To this extent? This is pathetic
>>323665346
That's what you get for being an AMDrone poorfaggot. You (don't) get what you (don't) pay for.
>>323665227
I'm planning on making something that looks like pic, I'm planning on getting a liquid cooler block on my cpu, mounting the fan on the back of the case, out of sight and then I've got a gtx 770 that has the exhaust vent in the back of it, which should disperse most of the heat and then just chuck an HDD and SSD over the top of the mobo and gpu.
Building the case is going to be a right pain in the ass and getting some perspex in the gap and hooking up LEDs is all going to suck but I reckon it'll turn out nicely.
>>323659643
I don't understand videocards world. How come some of those can be so unearthily expensive while being outperformed by $314 cards?
>>323665639
The RVZ01 actually allows for a full custom loop. You can even use AIO coolers, but they usually have too long tubing that you might as well trim and cut down.
>>323664736
>>323664649
>>323664625
Now it makes sense. Thanks for the info guys.
>>323665892
You can actually vidya with Quadro GPUs, some people actually, but for the around less than a quarter of a Quadro, you can get a gaming equivalent GeForce.
It's just you're basically not using the Quadros to their full and profitable potential.
>>323665810
Because those expensive cards are made for GPU intensive programs for calculations and shit.
>>323660256
>HE POSTED IT AGAIN
Your autism never fails to surprise me
>GTX 770
>380$
What ? I paid 350€ for it two years ago. Hardware doesn't lower in price with time or what ?
Think pascal will be out by march? Wasn't it supposed to release Q1 2016?
>>323666405
>It is worth nothing that the GM200 taped out in June and hit the shelves in March. That is a total time of approximately 9 months. The GM204 on the other hand took only five months to hit the shelves from its tape out date. Since we are on a younger node however, the schedule could be different this time around, making it harder for large dies to be produced economically.
Probably Septemberish.
>>323666191
Honestly, not really. At least not enthusiast cards
When the new GTX series comes out, the 980's will still probably be 600 some odd bucks, and the new series will just be priced at 700. Prices tend to stay consistent
Other components tend to fall off in price as you'd expect though
>>323666601
>the 980's will still probably be 600 some odd bucks
>600
I got my GTX 980 for $250 last year...
>>323666926
sure, but in europoor a 970 is still 349€
a 660 is still 279€
a 680 is still 550€
Hell naw. I will be when Polaris GPUs come out though.
>Card not even on the list
Who /gts 250/ here?
yep picked up a 980 for $200 off of cl
>>323666926
Can I ask where ? I might be interested.
The better question is, are you going to pick up an oculus or vive?
I'm planning on a vive just waiting for numbers.
>>323667321
Pre-loved on a private forum. Seller is a hardware reviewer and just wanted to get rid of older GPUs for newer ones. Had a few GTX 980s and R9 290Xs for $200 to $250. Got the last GTX 980.
You just need to look around.
Should be some GTX 980 Ti and Fury for cheap when the next lot of GPUs are released.
>>323667441
Vive seems to only be better in that you can walk around with it. Something that could possibly be added to the Rift.
I'm probably going for the Rift, unless the Vive is going to be cheaper or better in some other way, which I highly doubt.
>tfw bought 770 1 month before 970 came out
Just cuck me up senpaitachi.
Should I, /v/?
>>323667574
>Pre-loved on a private forum. Seller is a hardware reviewer and just wanted to get rid of older GPUs for newer ones
Then obviously you don't apply to what the poster was talking about you fucking idiot
>>323669179
>Buying a high end video card right on the verge of new architecture coming out
>tfw astigmatism in both eyes and any of the VR headsets will probably look like a blurry mess for me
>>323669359
>right on the verge
I've got bad news for you...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gp104-pascal-zauba/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-trouble/
>>323669179
>Polaris in 6 month
Do it if you're retarded. Buyin top tier cards 6 month in is retarded. Either buy them on launch if you have to get rid of your money and cocane and hookers aren't doing it for you or buy it 6 month after next launch for 10cents
>>323669179
Definitely not. Go ATI.
>>323669580
https://community.amd.com/thread/195151
>>323669192
>Then obviously you don't apply to what the poster was talking about you fucking idiot
Why are you so mad that I can get PC parts for cheap :^(
>>323670028
>https://community.amd.com/thread/195151
>Poster talking about retail price consistency
>"Well I got mine for cheaper!"
>"Oh? From where?"
>"It was used :^)"
>>323670149
The word "retail" never came up until you just posted it there... Why are you so mad?
>tfw GTX670
I'm not even sure on when I'd want to upgrade due to a lack of interest in upcoming PC vidya. Isn't that below what Oculus and such demand?
I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450, am I ready for VR?
>>323659643
yes. Got a i7 cpu and a 970m. You don't need 90 fps. Most demos etc won't require it,
>>323670629
>970m
I've got bad news for you...
GTX 780
Making owners proud circa 2013
>shiggy
>>323670669
why wouldn't it be able to run? i can play witcher 3, gtav, mgs v etc. You don't need 90 fps ultra settings
>>323659643
No because I'm not a dumb faggot who buys into whatever new gimmick giant corporations tell him is the next big thing.
How's that 3D Monitor treating ya, OP? Still using it gud or did you sell it off in shame before finding something else to bandwagon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZpRiHr9Ds
>Bartlebay will never call you his bitch
>>323663301
I played PS VR demos they're ugly as hell. PS4 ain't no R9 290 or GTX 970.
If it takes off - better for everybody. But I doubt it will be widely used. And get ready to spend at least another 400$ on full kit.
It's also by far worst headset out of Big 3.
I'm kinda curious to know how my rig wont support VR. Two GTX 680 FTWs aren't enough but one 970 is?
>>323664903
miniITX cases. google it.
just make sure everything will fit, soem of them have video card length limitations.
if you're not in a hurry, wait for Polaris.
>>323659643
> ATI mobility Raedon HD 4650
>scores less than 400 on the benchmark
>Intel Core 2 duo
>running all the games I want to for 7+ years
The only thing that hasn't worked at this point are OpenGL games like Transistor, enjoy getting meme'd by "new" tech
I have a really good PC - 6700k, 980ti
BUT
I don't think I'm going to be getting a VR headset this year. First, I don't know how good the consumer model works, because it's not out yet. Second - I tried DK2 and it made me rally nauseous. Third - I don't know how well the integration between non VR games and a headset is going to work.
Well, and there's the price. Can't justify dropping so much dosh on this.
>>323661403
>PS VR
enjoy your now porn
the 970 is a meme card, go for amd
>>323672192
your ZGPU doesn't support DX11. So new AAA many games won't work. like GTA5 or Xcom2
>>323672821
Pretty sure GTA5 has directx9 support.
>>323672867
DX10 support is mentioned, but I won't be surprised if GTA5 has DX9 render it has everything
>>323672821
But anon
>>323661142
NVidia will undoubtedly release new drivers when the Occulus drops.
>>323659643
I have an R9290X so I guess I'm 21 points shy.
>>323671690
Remove all VR context from your comment, replace "PSVR" with "PS4"
It's exactly the same thing that's happening now. You won't get the best experience out there on a PS4, and yet people don't care. Before Xmas added 5.7 million units, the PS4 had 50+% of the marketshare and earned that form multiplats alone (pretty much). Every multiplat gets sold more on consoles even if it performs much, much better on the PC
This isn't even a comparison between the PS4 consumer base VS PC consumer base. It's between 100% of PS4's consumer base and 8% of the PC market that owns has VR-ready build (or 1%, if you count non-gamers but that's not really fair)
It may be the worst, but it is the one everyone can buy for the headset's cost alone (no need to upgrade). When Rift/Vive ignore the entirety of the Laptop market (most PCs in the world) and the pre-built mid-range PC market (the second largest slice of the pie) then they are bound to never touch the mainstream, while PSVR still has a chance.
Of course this is all irrelevant to you and me. We are free to have high-end PCs and upgrade them if need be, no need to worry about the casuals. The problem is that we don't live in a bubble. Most dev support goes to the biggest guy in the ring, and that will be PSVR for the foreseeable future.
>>323672350
The barrier of entry for VR porn is $10 with google cardboard, not 600+
Unless we are talking about miku giantess vore simulator games, in which case you're right
>>323662815
>AMD GPU
>rub it in NVidia's faces
You realize that like all VR technology is optimized for NVidia cards using NVidia code libraries, right?
VR will be like Gameworks times 10.
>buying 1st gen VR
Why?
I'll just wait 3 years for vastly improved headsets with all the kinks worked out, and all the features requested by 1st gen users added, as well an already large game database ready to go, and VR-ready cards on discount.
>>323673360
do you really think people will drop another "price of a system" on another toy. If it takes off it's better for everybody, including PC. But I doubt it will be widely adopted
>>323673404
except you're wrong. both of them have their own technologies, VRworks for nVidia and LiquidVR for AMD, Oculus SDK supports both. I don't know about valveVR.
I just bought a samsung gear VR for my phone. Pretty excited to try that out.
>>323664625
>maxresdefault
>>323659643
980 Ti mastercard once again
>>323673360
Oh Christ you sonyfats are getting delusional, seek help
>>323672034
Wouldn't everything in that case run really hot? How does cooling in a small case like that work?
>>323673360
So PSVR will have a few exclusives but overall be a worse experience with shit hardware, frame rate problems, and 900p resolution?
>>323659643
>Intel i7-4770K 3.50GHZ
>nvidia gtx 780
>and 8gb DDR3
Is dis good? What should i play?
>>323659643
I have two 660tis, if the game supports sli, yes, if not, no.
>>323673805
there's no cooling
it runs fine. components don't heat up as much if you don't OC them.
Video card is on the other side. Needles to say you need to use quiet components, this case won't isolate anything.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/01/enough-of-this-console-nonsense-its-time-to-put-a-gaming-pc-in-my-living-room/
>>323673570
Yes, the Occulus supports both, but which do you think developers are going to use? NVidia has a much better track record with lobbying devs to use their shit.
I don't care about the newest games.
I only care that I can run Thief on VR.
>>323674048
devs will use Oculus SDK, other shit is just bells and whistles to make things work better. It will work fine on both systems.
>>323659643
No, looks like the 290x is just under what I need for minimum.
I don't really mind, I'm really in no position to buy a VR headset. I look into it in a few years, when they're cheaper and more bugs are worked out.
>>323664276
They have best (almost perfect) chips that come out of the foundry fitted in to them.
>>323673570
I can't tell you. It wholly depends on how popular VR becomes in general. If it does, PSVR will sell the most by far, accelerating VR development and VR-compatibility with most games (think CoD, FIFA, Battlefield, etc) faster than Rift/Vive could ever hope in this 1st gen.
It may be expensive for the general public, but it can also be their first time with VR and leave a strong impression. I wouldn't be surprised at all if most Playstation sections in stores had a PSVR demo booth, instead of guitarhero or Uncharted4.
Speaking of guitar hero/rockband, how expensive were the complete band kits? I'm sure they weren't $400 but they couldn't be that cheap either. At the peak of popularity before the burst I'm going to assume they cost the same as a 360, or close to that. And they only worked for 1 franchise.
I can't say if PSVR will truly take of. But on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if it sold more than 700k in 2016, with the PS4 craze going on right now (and probably peaking in this year and 2017). I don't know but they have the highest (well, only) chance out of the 3.
>>323673730
I see, you believe Vive will fare much better than PSVR for the general public, and anyone who doesn't hold your views is a delusional sonyfat. I literally only talked about the market's reaction, not my own opinion
>>323673825
Yes, except the last 2 points.
>>323659643
No, and I won't be until 2018/2019. My 280x OC and 6350 will have to last until then, but I might upgrade to an 8350 if the CPU starts to bottleneck
>>323672192
>ATI mobility Raedon HD 4650
Do you run your games at 15fps for twice the cinematic affect too
>>323659643
>>323661403
Why does the big airplane turn direction between shots?
>>323674013
That's the newer, slimmer version of my case here >>323660256. I wanted your case at first, but then realized I probably could do with the case fans as well since I live in a fucking desert.
>>323672034
Why the fuck would anyone want this shit?
What technology must PC support?
If I want to watch 3D cube, Riva TNT is strong enough.
i am not vr ready
will buy a 980ti with tax refund
>>323676364
Wait for Pascal.
>>323674459
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-vive-price-667174/
>and Sony’s Playstation VR is rumored to have a price tag anywhere between $800-$1,200.
Personally, I can't wait.
Sony has a history of overcharging for garbage (like their $1500 goggles that were basically just a shitty display that you strapped to your face).
I look forward to the eventual asshurt and denial when the turd costs more than the Rift.
>>323676017
>Why the fuck would anyone want this shit?
Because it's kawaii~ as fuck.
>>323677635
But anon Oculus can't play this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzIR7S_bg-U
>>323659643
>90 fps
>90
Oh great. Now the PC fats have a new standard. Every game will be "unplayable" without 90 fps! Get ready for the 90 fps police!
>>323678191
That's literally true for VR though.
>>323675154
the jet is flying away from the screen in the 2nd shot
>>323678041
What's the point of animushit if it's not porn?
>>323678191
M8 I want you to go play SotFS for an hour and then try to play Bloodborne. That's the difference between 60fps and 30fps.
>>323677635
Not saying it won't cost 800$, but taking amazon leaks as fact is even giving them relevance at all is beyond retarded at this point
>>323678495
You'd have a point if it was just some random listing and not a listing from Sony itself.
>>323678583beyondretarded
>>323678191
Enjoy literally vomiting.
Nope, 4690k and 280x here. I guess I could use the Rift to play older games using Vorpx or something.
If they want me to buy their headset and a whole new PC to play new VR-native games they had better come up with a better games list than "50 indie walking simulators and jumpscare horrors".
When can we expect Polaris cards?
>>323679826
Summer. I'm guessing August, maybe a bit earlier.
>i7 4770K @ 4.2 GHz
>GTX 980
>16GB DDR3 1600 MHz C9
In my opinion, no. There are plenty of games even on 1080p that don't hold stable 60 fps, so I'd have to sacrifice some image quality for the higher res and 90 fps of the Vive/Rift.
Yeah, no interest though. I might upgrade to a single 6GB Pascal GPU if it makes sense.
