So I just built a computer and chose a gtx 980 ti for my gpu because all over the internet everyone was saying that it's the most powerful card you can get, it's overkill for 1080, you'll be able to run everything 60fps no problem. Even with a 60fps cap, I'm still getting frame drops in almost every game I play. In games like far cry 3 and blood dragon, it's only mildly distracting, but in fallout 4 there are areas outside that drag me down to under 40fps even on low settings.
What are my best options here? I switched from console to PC so I would have more solid, consistent, and fluid performance but so far it seems my hardware isn't what I expected. My temperature never goes higher than 65 c and my cpu is an i7 4790k. I've been thinking about saving up for another gtx 980 ti and doing sli but I thought I'd ask opinions first. Could my problem be cpu or software settings related? Thanks in advance
Your cpu is most likely bottlenecking, how much RAM do you have?
>>323651098
2x8
>>323650939
I have a 970 and Fallout 4 runs like shit. Honestly it's just a very poorly optimized game. I'll get 60-75 fps with high/ultra settings in some areas and it will dive down to like 35-40 in others.
You must've fucked something up OP. I ran Fallout 4 at a consistent 45+ fps with no drops on an overclocked 550.
muh 60 FPS
muh expensive PC
>>323651354
The only spot it drops below 50 is looking down from the top of trinity tower. Which doesn't really hurt the game experience, but I have non-debilitating OCD about this shit. I ended up turning a few settings down and capping my frame rate at 40, it's not bad but obviously I want the perfect ultra 60 experience
FC3 should have no issues getting 1080/60fps unless maybe you've cranked the AA way up or something similar. I guess the other possiblity, if it's just random frame dropping, might be due to loading assets. Are you running games from a HDD or SSD?
>>323650939
Seems like a waste to use a 1080p/60Hz screen with a 980Ti. You should get a better screen before another GPU. I'm rolling with a 1440p/144Hz screen along my 980Ti and couldn't be happier.
Frametimes?
The whole problem here is that you're playing a shitty game, play something better
>>323651776
An SSD on which my OS is also stored. Blood dragon is worse, at times it seems like random short frame drops but it also happens when the action gets really hot or when there seems to be a lot of geometry in my FOV, usually just 59 for a second or less but it's distracting.
What's your CPU?
>>323651867
Can you actually play modern games at 1440p 144fps? I wouldn't think a single videocard could handle that yet.
>>323651867
1080 is plenty for me. My first concern is graphical integrity and consistent frame rates. I specifically bought it because everyone told me it was overkill and more than I would need.
>>323652032
i7 4790k
>>323652152
Well then I don't know. Could be your HDD is so fragmented or just plain shit it can't read/write fast enough. Or bad GPU drivers.
>>323650939
>it's overkill for 1080
anon. Most modern cards are overkill for 1080p these days. Git at least 2k resolution or it's a waste of a 980TI card.
Shouldve stuck with a console, sorry op. PC gaming is a joke unless you like autism simulators and 7 year old console ports
>>323650939
It could be a multitude of things. Are your drivers up to date? Do you have a decent PSU?
>>323650939
That does sound very odd. It isn't a problem of power, since PCs with like 1/4 of the power of yours can max out FC3 without a sweat.
Are you running supersampling by any chance? That's basically running the game at a higher resolution, but displaying it at 1080p, and that can take a real hit on performance. I don't know if FC3 has it, though, it should be under the anti-aliasing settings.
>>323650939
Sounds like your computer's on power saver or your cpu is underclocking itself due to heat issues. Did you properly install thermal paste/cooler? Check your cpu temps using an OSD so you can see exactly what it looks like when you dip in frames.
>he bought 980Ti
>nano literally JUST got a price drop
haha get destroyed faggot
I know this is going to sound really, really stupid. But check to make sure your input/output is actually plugged into your gpu and not your mobo.
Is it worth picking up a 970 and an i7 6700k? I'm looking for a nice cpu + gpu combination under 1000 bucks and that's the best I can seem to find.
>>323652340
Yeah I bought a better cooler than the stock one and put on plenty of thermal paste. I'll try more analysis tomorrow.
>>323652491
>and put on plenty of thermal paste
More isn't always better
>>323652294
Damn, I wouldn't know. I'm more worried about Blood Dragon though, the FC3 problem is mostly sorted out with the AA turned down a bit.
>>323652491
>and put on plenty of thermal paste
Yeah
No
You don't put on plenty of thermal paste, you put on a very slim film and make sure it spreads everywhere. Too much will have the opposite effect and not conduct heat properly
>>323652042
Nah but it'll go up to 100 in some titles. Also the screen got g-sync so it's a smoother experience in general.
I play a lot of CS:GO besides heavier games, so that game is where the 144Hz come most into play for me
>>323652581
Honestly, your mrig should even run those games with supersampling at 60 fps, I doubt that's the problem. But it's something to look into. First check out your thermal paste problem, though.
>>323652486
No buy a 390 if you're going to get a 970, the 390 is objectively better
>>323652408
What if it was plugged into the motherboard? Would I be using integrated graphics or something without knowing it?
>tfw amd
so glad i didn't fall for the nvidia meme
>>323652662
Yes
This has happened to me before, and you'll feel like the biggest idiot on planet earth after finding out
Fallout 4 is horribly optimized. It's not your card (probably)
>>323652659
There's no thermal paste problem. I applied slightly more than the recommended amount from the video I was watching.
>980ti
>This close to pascel
Why
>>323652662
yes that would be the case, you'd be using your cpu's integrated graphics.
>>323652705
I mean I get a perfect 60 in witcher 3 ultra, with hair works off.
>>323650939
whats your RAM speed bro? Fallout 4 is so shit that it actually matters because its CPU intensive.
I'm guessing OP is some idiot who bought a pre-built.
>>323652660
>amd
>better anything
lmao
>>323652249
Thats why you get both retard.
I have a ps4, i5 6600k/r9 380/16gb pc and wiiu and couldn't be happier.
>>323650939
Post your speccy your PSU and your cooling setup.
My initial thought is: shit PSU, stock clock on CPU. Overheating the card. Overheating the CPU. Shit DDR3 RAM. Bad motherboard. Bad drivers.
I have a 780ti and I run the games you mentioned at 1080/60fps no problem.
Getting another 980 won't fix it, It's not the card bottlenecking you.
If it is, your card is broken and you need to RMA it.
>>323650939
Did you go to "power" in the control panel and set it to "high performance"?
>>323652790
Good, then it's not that.
>>323652837
I built it myself, I'm not a fucking dumbass
>>323650939
Fallout 4 is just really demanding/badly optimized. There's not much you can do. Multiple GPUs maybe? I don't know.
I think the most demanding settings are volumetric lighting (god rays). You could also try the dynamic shadows mod that reduces shadow draw distance when your frame rate drops, and brings it back up when your frame rate increases
>>323652660
Any issues that I should be aware of with the 390 or is it really that good?
is there anything the 970 does better or...?
>>323652854
My PSU is over 800 watts. I've actually never checked my cpu temperature but my gpu is never over 65 degrees c
>>323652859
Yeah
>>323652881
>Running a 980 ti @ 1080p/60hz
>Doesn't know basic troubleshooting
>"Will spending another $700 fix my problem?"
sure thing bud
>>323652848
>repeating corporate shilling
How about you look at game performance benchmarks and form an opinion based on that instead of the marketers on 4chan? The 390 costs the same and performs better
>>323652731
>I applied slightly more than the recommended amount from the video I was watching
And how much was that? I've seen people put an assload of the paste and even spread it around which is way unnecessary. You could put just a pea sized drip on the CPU and it spreads all around with the pressure from the cooler and it's plenty enough.
>>323653013
Other than run nvidia cripple features, no. 390 usually gets about the same or 3-5 frames better.
>>323652881
Can we get a TIMESTAMP of your 980ti?
>>323653097
About that much
You did download the latest stable gpu driver for your card, right
Just to get this out of the way
>>323652936
780ti/970/probably lower too has the grunt to handle godrays. They really aren't that bigger hit. It's the shadows and the fact that the city areas have no fucking occlusion panes so it just renders fucking everything meaning that in those intensive areas, your going to be making 15k+ drawcalls and that's just lunacy. Read ENBoris's blog and he explains it all.
>>323653097
Through cpu, unity
>>323652854
>>323650939
Also you can just run a program like MSI afterburner and turn on all the on screen displays in game and run a game to see whats hitting 100% or whatever
Actually yeah i have a rig that can do everything fine but blood dragon and fallout 4 are choppy sometimes, i never figured out the deal, its probably bad optimization, maybe someones found a fix though
sometimes games will just happen to run like shit and i just figure it out with a quick google search, it kinda sucks but its pretty easy, but yeah those ones are kinda fucked i cant get them to run smooth at all which is why i never really played them yet. Well i played blood dragon but that was back when i had a shittier card and couldnt get flawless FPS in almost anything
I really loved that game i wanna figure that out now damn
>>323652705
>tfw I did this the first time I built my rig
Took me a good couple of hours to figure out that it wasn't a driver issues and it was just me being retarded
>>323653217
I think so, unless the last update I downloaded was just the Geforce Experience interface.
>>323653026
>I've actually never checked my cpu temperature but my gpu is never over 65 degrees c
wew lad
are you fucking joking?
You built a PC. Installed a new cooling system. And did not check the cooler was working? Since everything is working it's unlikely that you burnt out your CPU, but you could have severely degraded the performance if you've been running crazy hot.
Seriously, you didn't ever check?
I repeat; wew lad.
You should always keep your temp information up when running a new setup. At least for the first few times you put it under stress.
Damn son.
Damn.
>I'm not a fucking dumbass
Also, having an 800W PSU doesn't mean shit if your PC needs 801W.
In addition all PSU's are not created equal. What brand is it? What model? Some PSUs have good wattage but don't give enough amperes where needed (usually @12V) or it's very 'dirty' power and can cause exactly the problems you say.
>>323653427
Well, did you just install the drivers from the dvd that came with the card, or did you go to the nvidia website and downloaded them from there? If it's the latter then you're in the clear.
>>323653482
Not him but 800 watts is more than enough to run any single GPU setup even with crazy overclock. That being said not checking temperatures is top fucking wew lad tier.
>>323653508
>>323653427
you need to go into the geforce experience and go to the driver tab and download the latest drivers.
>I'm not a fucking dumbass
So. /v/. What's the best brand of video card in your opinion?
>>323652341
Yeah I can't imagine how those people feel. Good thing my shitted 3.5 is already as bad as it will get.
>>323653636
Mid range = AMD
Flagship = Nvidia
>>323653630
Well, then it sounds like he does have the latest drivers.
He could also make us screens of his Speccy, including the graphics tab, to make sure
>>323653716
I meant like EVGA, MSI, ect.
>>323651349
God beams off.
Honestly it works and looks unchanged.
>>323653636
>>323653760
Whichever has the best bang/buck for my budget at the time of purchasing
>>323651210
Frequency
>>323653716
with r9 nano for 499- which is basically fury x if it doesn't throttle and it doesn't in atx cases
it is a sweet deal right now
if you can watercool it cheaply it is amazing deal
>>323653760
ASUS, MSI, EVGA are all good brands for NVidia
Sapphire and MSI for AMD
Maybe I am a dumbass
>"HAHA console peasant I enjoy video games on my superior pc masterrace throne"
>shit ported shitgame runs like shit with $1000 hardware
wow what an investment, surely paid off
instead of 30fps muddy textures you get 60(but actually ~45)fps with 4k textures modded horseshit!
>>323653986
The consolewar shitposting thread is that way, this is tech support
>>323650939
>Buying a 980 when the next generation of GPUs are coming out in less than a year.
>>323653986
I don't have anything against consoles, I just want to enjoy the best possible video game experience.
is the 960 any good? or should i fork over some more money for a 970?
>>323654182
1080p? get 380 and forget about upgrading for two years
>>323654182
No. No.
Wait for Pascel. Really don't buy a new GPU that you want last a few years this late in a cycle.
>>323654250
>pascal
>needs 4 of those to break even with titan x
It's a ruse. Do not trust that taiwaneese jew.
>>323654338
>Pascal
>Not even out
>No specs released
>Hurrr durrr
>>323650939
This seems like troll post but whatever if its not don't buy a 2nd 980ti you faggot. Price is gonna plummet hard in less than a year when new cards get released.
>>323650939
Since /g/ is leaking might as well ask:
I'm getting a work laptop and the Thinkpad P50 seems like my best option; durable, TP keyboard and great specs.
Only thing is that the GC is a Quadro m600m, is it gonna cause problems like crashes?
I don't mind being unoptimised, I've been using a mobility Raedon HD 4650 for 7+ years and it's served me well.
So OP, where the Speccy screenshot at
>>323654425
>Thinkpad
Ask at /g/. Really.It won't have an issue as far as I know
>>323654384
>he didn't watch nvidia conference
>he doesn't know that it takes 4 pascal chips to reach x6 performance of one titan x
>he can't do the math
>he didn't see the monster cooling system for a car
>>323654425
>Quadro m600m
isn't it more expensive than normal mobile gpu?
>>323650939
Fallout 4 is one of the most shit optimized games ever. Its really shit. So if you have this problem in Fallout 4 i would not worry. But try something else or better download Heaven Benchmark (its free) and run it. You should get 60 solid.
>>323653013
Don't listen to that guy http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2016/01/gtx-970-vs-r9-390/
tl;dr get 970 if you can't wait 6 to 9 months at most for new cards to come out.
>>323654592
I get a perfect frame rate in Heaven, it's supposedly less demanding games that give me trouble. In light of that fact, I guess it really does seem like a CPU issue.
>>323653013
>is there anything the 970 does better or...?
5% more fps in some games at 1080p with nvidia features enabled
1440p it is 10-15% worse
I have one for 3 months now, no issues except that one thing with fo4 compass but they fixed it in 3 days for 300 series
>>323650939
>buying a 980ti when Pascal is right around the corner
you done fucked up OP
>>323654689
>I guess it really does seem like a CPU issue.
No, what's your RAM?
Fo4 is very ram dependent for no good reason.
do you run everything in sli? fps drops is actually stutter that can't be fixed
never go sli/cf
>>323652686
running AMD everything and I've yet to have any major issue beyond having to re DL a driver
>>323654949
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-trouble/
TFW Pascal doesn't come out this year or in sufficient numbers
>>323654581
I need to do CAD/3D work/Hi-Res PS, it'll mainly be a work laptop but I still wanna play my 2hus and DS from time to time
>>323655052
http://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-boards-gtc/
oh wew
guys need new gpu
>>323655161
yea, it should run fine, it uses same drivers as far as i know
>>323654621
Wut. Everything I've seen has the 390 kicking the shit out of the 970.
![14-125-803-TS[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G7fIipL.jpg "14-125-803-TS[1].jpg")
>>323650939
>Gigabyte 980 Ti was $539.99 at Newegg earlier but I missed out
FUCK
>>323655052
You can be very sure it wont come out in sufficient numbers. There is just way too many idiots in the world blowing they $ the moment new cards get released.
Hell 970 tier cards are getting more expensive because nVidia can get away with saying demand is too "high".
Next several years will see really stupid pricing in GPU market.
I'll just borrow this thread and ask a question:
I currently have a gtx980. Would it be worth to invest in a G-synd 1440p 144hz screen? I know the card wont handle high res and fps at ultra, or probably even high, which leads me to my second question:
Would a higher FPS and resolution be more desirable over graphics quality? What would look and feel best? Should I just go for 1440p/60hz?
>>323655741
No one can answer that FOR you. I, personally, will take a lower resolution/quality over a lower framerate. If the game is interesting and exciting then it doesn't matter what it looks like too much, but that's just me.
>>323652486
i7 for games is overkill
>>323655547
Show me one credible source where its "kicking the shit" out of it. They are pretty much equal performance cards where 970 has advantage in 1080p and 390 in 1440p.
In both cases that advantage is not even 10% while 970 requires much less power and is way quieter which is why it ultimately won the test in the link I posted.
>>323655741
Buy a Korean 27" 1440p IPS for $200.
So my system is fairly old (maybe 5-6 years or so) and I upgraded to a not too great card but I got it for a good deal. I don't care to play new triple-A games too much but I've been playing the Witcher 3 and fuck if I can get through a city without freaking the fuck out with stuttering for a while. Would upgrading my ram fix this and if so, what kind should I get? I'm going to upgrade my entire setup in a year or so but I just want something that can keep handling things at the moment.
>OP still hasn't posted a speccy
We might have been rused hard
What a waste of time
>>323656164
I never post in 980ti thread seriously without a timestamp.
Way too many poorfags trolling.
>>323650939
As a dude who rebuilt his PC twice, all I need from you is.
Motherboard Chipset, from like this year
Ram DDR# & Frequency
Data Storage hard drive.
Everything that is now two years old is considered outdated as a product is no longer store sold. Which means whatever cost the same two years ago is now the same price to performance for the new series.
The only thing that has truly gotten better is Data Storage devices with bigger bandwidth.
Motherboards to matching CPU chipsets are important.
One X99 chipset has a $1k 8 core 3.0GHz but most motherboards for that set are still DDR3 Ram, while new Z170 gaming ones use $350 4 core 4.0(4.2)GHz DDR4. I guess because AMD has been dwarfed quite a bit now, basically it has become X99 vs Z170.
Your card is still good for another 4 years or more as it is. However your Motherboard chipset is already considered outdated in stores this year.
K /v/ what should I upgrade first? Or just save for Rift/Vive?
>>323656001
Everything looks fine. Try turning everything off while playing your games. 6gb should be fine.
>>323656529
>fahrenheit
Cmon son
Install speccy, screenshot your specs and ask /g/
>>323656557
It's not like it's relevant anyway, it's cold as balls in here.
>>323656529
More RAM is nice. Can't open chrome + a game with 8 gb RAM nowadays.
>>323656767
Beyond that. That costs like $35. Just laziness on my part
>building a powerful gaming pc
>still using a 1080p monitor
What's this nigga doing?
>not having at least one high quality 1440p monitor
>>323656549
Alright, thanks. I've been running Witcher 3 with things like Firefox running in the background. I'll stop them next time I play.
im gonna be switching countries next month so i wont have any pc, and my old one was super shit, therefore i want to build a good pc, something around 1k euros. It seems that everyone is saying to wait for new tier gpu and cpus even, but what if i need PC in next month or so? Should i build super cheap and wait for new shit ?
>>323656863
Another monitor? I can't imagine having only one monitor to work with.
>>323656758
Honestly, new CPU/Mobo would be next.
>>323656164
He made this topic yesterday with different words
In the future ask for a timestamp of the vidya card whenever you see stuff like this
>>323657065
Need to get a new desk first, no space. That's being handmade for the time being.
>>323657109
Is it worth upgrading if I'm not being bottlenecked by CPU?
should i buy 970 and wait for pascar or just buy 980ti, for 1080p gaming
>>323657343
Wait for amd Polaris in 5 months
>>323657281
>Is it worth upgrading if I'm not being bottlenecked by CPU?
No.
>>323657343
970 is more than enough for 1080p.
>>323657281
Nah. I'd just save up your money for the next generation of Intel processors to come out, providing AMD decides to stop being retarded and release a new wave of CPUs that are not using 4 year old technology.
>>323655956
http://www.guru3d.com/
>>323650939
Why didn't you wait for pascal again?
>>323657474
>linking frontpage
Yeah, nah.
>>323657064
There's always new shit coming out so waiting is generally a neverending cycle, and I doubt the requirements are somehow going to skyrocket
I'd upgrade now
>>323657064
Your bigger issue is there's no big sale event, generally it's a good idea to buy new parts when it's something like black friday where lots of parts have big discounts.
Having some ice in your stomach and staying patient for a good deal always worked out for me, but then you are in a tricky position where you want it now. I would try to get around it by maybe borrowing a computer from a friend or at least borrowing parts, buying the chassis (that won't change anyways so might as well buy now) and assemble a kinda shitty computer with thrown together parts and then build a proper rig later on
New parts coming later this year will push down prices of current mid/high tier parts as well, so even if you don't buy the new hot shit, you'll get more for your money, that's what I like. My current gpu, 6870 1gb, was one I bought when it was one of the best mid tier gpu deals, and it still serves me well to this day, though its limitations are becoming more and more apparent so I need to upgrade later this year.
>>323654949
>theres always that one pascal autist shill in a video card thread
>>323656758
How did your computer even work when there is no disk drive?
>>323658892
You don't need a disk drive anymore really.
I remember back in like 200...7?8? When I built a rig and I came to the realization I didn't need to get a diskette drive anymore because everything was on cd. Now it's the dvd drive's time to take the path of the dinosaurs.
I use my computer's dvd drive maybe once in two years. So I could definitely do without.
>>323658892
I haven't used a CD or a DVD on my computer for like a decade
