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ITT: Games that aren't afraid to fuck your shit up
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ITT: Games that aren't afraid to fuck your shit up
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Greatest and most brutal AI in the history of videogames
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>>323637801
Is it really that hard to make AI as competent as they were doing last gen?
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>>323636146
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sup?
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>>323636146
I definitely think this game gives dark souls a run for its money in terms of giving the enemies equal opportunities to kill you, while also giving you a wide variety of ways to go about combat.
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Vagrant story, what a game. What a fucking game, i love it, probably one of my favorite games of all time.

Literally goodDarkSouls
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>>323638610
>4 Thief Run
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>>323639510
This game is just kicking my shit in. I'm only in the second 'area' I guess you'd call it. The part after the cutscene with Sydney using a summoning circle while he has that female riskbreaker captive. The skeletons aren't much of an issue, but the damn ghost or the amphibian will fuck me up.
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i guess i'm just bad?
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man im playing vagrant story myself for the first time, amazing game, just got to catacombs
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>>323640012
Its all about understading all the crafting system. I guess the only problem with the game is the lack of easy way to understand it, but once you get familiar with it, is addictive as fuck.
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Anything featuring this cutie right here. The music might say otherwise but this shit's got it out for you.
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>>323638121
If they made competent AI people would complain about how cheating the computer is or they would feel like they are crap at games and that's not allowed in this PC world of ours
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>>323640296
Where can I craft? I got to the workshop just before the cutscene I mentioned but I walked all around the room trying every button at every place in the room and nothing came up even though it said I would be able to "combine materials" there. Also I land a 4+ chain only once in a blue moon during combat so that isn't helping my case much either.
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>>323638248
This has to be bait. Fucking Darius gaiden is more difficult then this
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Xcum: dick within
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>>323640404
Still haven't cleared all the survival routes. There's always that one stage along the way that just fucks your shit in, and then you derp on the boss until you're out of lives.
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EDF games on any difficulty above normal has no issue overwhelming you if you don't turtle.
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>>323640410
Ok ill try a TLDR
You craft on the menu, check for it. Dont remember where exactly, i think its on equipment.
There are multiple workshops in lea monde (the island you are). Difference between them? the materials you can work with. For example, the first workshop you see, you can only work with leather, wood, and bronze (i think, dont remember too well), so if you have an iron weapon or armor, you cant work with it. For now, the first workshop is useless.
When you combine materials, its got a chance you can get a superior material. For example, if you mix bronce blade with a iron blade, you get Hagane blade. A worse Hagane blade than a pure Hagane blade.
I suggest you to dont bother with crafting way after you leave the first levels of mines. For now, just gather a bunch of weapons, and train with them. Fandango sword should be good against those amphibians (dragon type)
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>>323640410
i suggest you to look for a crafting guide later in the game. It will explain everything.
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>>323640970
Thanks for the tip, I tried reading through the game manual but I must've overlooked that. Also how important is weapon DP? There is a chain skill that increases weapon DP, and the Fandango is about 46/130 or something.
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>>323640404
rip
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>>323641098
Yeah, it will make it all so simple.
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>>323641161
Let me see if i can remember.
There are DP and there are XX something, dont remember the other.
when a weapon hits, it decreases one (reducing the weapon efectiveness in general, its like durability), but increases the other. Why do you care if the Ghost or ethereal points (i think thats how they were called) increase or not? there is a chain skill that it hits harder when the ghosts points are higher.
Sorry if im not too helpful, last time i played it was like 1 year or something.
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>>323640007

>4

*smacks lips*
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>>323641695
Nah man I really appreciate it, my co worker recommended the game to me but I won't be there all week so I have no one with experience to ask for help from. Other than the obvious of looking it up on the internet.
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>>323642020
Here are some random tips i know they are true.

>You are gonna need 1 weapon for each type of enemy preferably (dont worry about it too much early game, but eventually you'll need it). But remember, if you have a weapon thats really strong against undead types, doesnt mean you are gonna kill every undead with it easily. Why? there are other factors like Element affinity and Type of weapon (probably that undead weapon has too much fire affinity, and the enemy is strong to fire), shit like that.
>If you get stuck, go back, upgrade your equipment and train the weapon so it can be bettter against that enemy/boss
>Sometimes you get items that increase your stats by 1/2/3/4, like STR or HP. Those numbers are random. If you use save states, try to get the +4 always. If you dont, then i recommend to save, use it, and if you dont get the +4, then load. Doenst apply to bosses bonuses, because it would be too tedious (unless you use save states)
>The best way to get new weapons and armor is killing humans carrying it. Further in the game you'll notice them.
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>>323636146
I tried playing that game like 3 times but gave up during the mines each round. Fiddling with the stats and weapon affinity shit is soooo fucking boring.
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>>323639058
it's just the casual filter working
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>>323643280

you are weak
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>>323636146
>getting your ass handed to you by a pair of faggots in the first stage.
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>>323644528
Third stage, actually.
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>>323636146
I finally played through this game earlier this year. And I must tell you it's really, really easy, if you're not retarded. The final boss took like two chains before going into phase two. And apparently, I had to cancel his super attack by hitting him, when he flew over me, but I face tanked it every time, and it didn't even kill me.
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>>323641161
DP has no effect on damage until it drops to zero, which is never, unless you deliberately never repair it. Repairing costs PP which you accumulate by just using the weapon.
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>>323644528

>buy Godhand
>"I don't get it this game isn't that hard"
>demon pops out of dead guy in first level
>"oh"
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>>323643182
>You are gonna need 1 weapon for each type of enemy preferably
No, fuck that. What you need to have is edged/blunt/piercing weapon and weapon of every element. The enemy class doesn't matter that much. Anyway, all of those are easily adjusted with gems and/or enchantments.
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>>323640410
>>323641161
I know for the greatsword at least there are a bunch of scripted drops that will get you a pretty solid weapon if you pay attention and stay stocked up.

the shandy gaff broadsword you find in the catacombs can be combined with the katana that drops from the dark crusader for a higher tier greatsword, etc.

just don't go crafting willy nilly or you'll end up with a worthless NORSE SWORD like I had in my first playthrough, or god forbid a SPATHA
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>>323643182
>Why? there are other factors like Element affinity and Type of weapon

man I remember I was fucked when I realized my orc/goblin killing sword did nothing against human enemies, because despite being in the same 'HUMAN' category, their elemental affinities were complete opposites.

killing orcs and goblins with the sword had grinded its air affinity, but the human knight enemies were highly resistant to air and vulnerable to earth instead, so I had to whip up an earth-aligned weapon from scratch to compete with them.

it's a lot simpler than it looks though, your weapon damage just defaults to whichever damage type is the highest (the one highlighted in white), and I've found that a light-aligned weapon for killing undeads and evils can carry you through pretty much the whole game, barring the few light-aligned liches I've heard about.
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>>323646271
PRO TIP looting up a weapon from a late-game enemy, even if it's 'blade' portion is inferior to the tools you already have, can be worth your while as a source of higher tier grips with more gem slots on them, since you can grind and craft improved blades, but not grips.
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>>323640410
get gud or you will never be able to beat bosses that you hit for 8 damage let alone grind up the affinity on your weapons to get to that point.
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>>323643182
>>323646271
>they don't know about the 4 blade method
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>>323637801
Played it recently, felt the "horror" was tacked on as a after thought taking advantage of "The Ring" hype
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>>323647640
I've heard about the 3 blade method (beast/dragon, undead/evil, human/phantom), what's the 4 blade?
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>>323643182
>>Sometimes you get items that increase your stats by 1/2/3/4, like STR or HP. Those numbers are random. If you use save states, try to get the +4 always.

This is the most valuable tip for making the game easy. Getting str/agi at +4 will result in such a dramatic early game boost of hit rate and damage that it'll carry you through the rest with ease.
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"Oh man, I'm glad I'm finally done with sector B. It can't get any worse than those tiles that damage you"

I was wrong.

Those pitch black sections in sector 3 can go fuck themselves
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>>323646228
>enemies can feint their deaths on higher difficulty
>walk up to them to finish them off
>you get punched in the balls
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>>323636146
Off topic but how the fuck is that game 70mb?
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>>323648113
heh, so it deals with the problem of a weapon effective against demihumans not being effective against crimson blades. neat
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>>323649145
Lowpoly magic
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"A game where you play the penultimate memeheroes it can't be that haGHIJOKDSLHFYGUJkGLDS:FH"
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>>323649439
>thinking geometry is what eats up disc space in vidya
don't talk about shit you don't understand
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>>323636146
Funny you mention that, as a kid i always thought ashley looked like brendan fraser
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>>323650639
JUST
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>>323650097
you can always correct me
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>>323649145
I think you may have downloaded a virus, anon
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>>323651041
psn version is like 98mb
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>>323651134
Still larger than an N64 game at the time. FF7 only is as large as it is because of FMVs.
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>>323651276
>>323651134
I hear there's a bunch of on-disk cut content. Unused areas, textures, assets, an unfinished playable version of Callo Merlose, etc.
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>>323652131
Doesn't change the filesize for PSN. Every download must be a perfect replica of the on-disc content. It's why Mega Man Legends isn't on PSN: It has ads/billboards it lost the rights to, and they aren't allowed to remove them.
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>>323652352
But Legends is on the PSN now.
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>>323652670
My mistake, it was Legends 2
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>>323640291
>>323639510
>>323636146
If I wanted to play it again right now, what'd be the best way (on pc)? I get an emulator and torrent the iso? I own it on psn but I don't have access to my ps3 or vita atm.
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>>323649145
>>323651041
it's not a virus, there are versions on the internet have been compressed to be that small, it'll be the proper size when you unpack it
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Obligatory.
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>>323653367
This game is pain. Punishing you for grinding in a japanese, motherfucking, rpg is just evil.
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>>323653367
I certainly hope you didn't use too many healing items anonymous. You wouldn't want to be stuck with a team full of item users :^)
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>>323653367
>Don't link fights because it's a fucking hassle most of the time to get all the enemies to join together
>Find out 6 hours later that this fucked you over and you should just restart
Quality design
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Most games by Treasure. Alien Soldier and Ikaruga pop into mind right away.
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