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Is it just me or is skell combat kinda simple compared to ground
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Is it just me or is skell combat kinda simple compared to ground combat?

You spend the first 30 or so hours learning the ins and outs of the combat system and it feels like a real evolution of the previous Xenoblade's combat, with each class putting a lot of synergy into your art options, secondary cooldowns with additional effects to manage, ability to master and mix class weapons for real variety, ranged and melee combos, overdrive opening up options for tertiary cooldown effects, etc. And then you get a skell and about half of that is thrown in the trash in favor of more equipment management and a goofy looking "cockpit mode" that just randomly activates

Is this how combat is for the rest of the game?
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>>323490640
>just randomly activates
There is a random chance based on your doll's potential.

Every time you activate a doll art there is a chance cockpit mode will activate and reset all your cool downs. With a high doll potential (ex. 1000+) and some fast cooldown weapons with 3x custom speed on them (ex. R cannons/widebeam) you can basically get an endless string of cockpit modes. combine that with a super weapons and you're basically unstoppable.
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Hello?
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Shooting Star!
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>>323491531
is this thing on?
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>>323493463
Am I all alone?
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Reminder that telethia has only 200k RP left and is well within a killable range
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>>323490640

The problem with Skell combat is that is has way too many random factors. Cockpit mode and overdrive extensions being the main ones.

If you fail at getting cockpit mode to activate, you end up waiting around for cooldowns unless if you have multiple short cooldown arts to increase your chances along with high potential.

Cockpit mode is also complete shit. You can't see anything, the screen spazzes out and you can't move to get in range for certain attacks. Why they thought it was a good idea I have no clue. It completely takes you out of the battle.
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>>323490640
The only problem for me in skell combat is that most of the weapons have damage boost when toppling enemies, but no weapon that can actually topple.

One anon said the g-busters or something can topple but I havent seen it yet.
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So who are the literal Xenoblade save for you know who?

those two Nopon
that one Ma-non
that oen Orphen
Celica

No L doesn't join BLADE. I'm surprised there are no Prone BLADEs.
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>>323493872
G-Busters only staggers, no skell weapons can actually topple on their own.

Once something is staggered it has no topple resist, so any ground art with topple would set them off.

What he didn't realize is he probably had some guy on foot with assault hammer toppling anytime he staggered with G-Buster.
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>your first flying skell
>they tell you to go to an FN site up above
>it has a yellow icon (treasure)
>unboards Skell to approach it
>suddenly a level 60 assassin
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>>323490640
Skell combat is just XC combat without chain attacks.
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>>323494109
Humans are the Xenos you dumb fuck. They're on an alien planet, so they're the aliens. Humans are the literal Xenoblades.
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>>323495803
No one is native to Mira outside of indigens though.
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>>323490640

There's a reason Skell combat isn't sustainable over a few fights
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>>323496127
>that faggot in tvtropes saying Skell fights is better
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R8 my team senpai, just about to get all up in Chapter 9
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>>323495874
L is a local, along with nopon
At least, they claim to be
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>>323496127
Well with skell fuel deleting very quickly, yeah, there's a reason you're supposed to chop and change for bigger fights.

I wish there were more bosses that absorbed your fuel, though.
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>>323496389
It's safe to assume Nopon aren't local, their race just stumbled into Mira for a long time.

L is Lucifer
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Do tension arts scale with potential AND ranged/melee attack or is it just potential scaling?
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>>323490640
>Is it just me or is skell combat kinda simple compared to ground combat?
That's funny, how is ground combat not simple?
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>yfw you exit your skell right as you're about to explode
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>>323496510
Skells for big attacks and ground for repetitive chip damage. The Zyzz fight teaches you this
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DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE IT'S ALL RIGHT
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>>323496564
>L is Lucifer
and this somehow means he isn't a native?
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>>323496975
He's probably either a trickster alien or Mira's avatar
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>>323494146
>>323493872

You can Topple using the Crush Soul Voice.
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Both ground combat and skell combat are shit. The game is just farming for mats to build a robot you like for /m/ fans.

I've defended games like FF12 and Xenoblade from fags who call them offline mmos, but not XCX. It is one. Why is XCX a party rpg? Your party members are fucking useless and only exist for the awful soul voice mechanic. In FF12 and Xenoblade 1 that was not the case at all.
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>>323496975

Nothing on Mira is native. It's all Mira Magicâ„¢.
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Skells for burst. Ground for DPS.
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I enjoy following up Soul Voices.
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>>323497340
>I enjoy pushing orange when the voice says orange
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>>323497340
I'm really torn on soul voices. On one hand I like them as they're the only thing that really adds to the personality of most party members outside of affinity missions, and you have some room for planning cool stuff with them through setting up your own voices and choosing party members based on that. But then in execution you can never really plan or count on any of them coming at any given time so it's pretty much 100% reactionary and doesn't have much strategy to it.
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>>323493872
That's where ground combat comes in. You topple and your ai buddies fire the dps on
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>>323497508
nigga you do realize it's better not to follow them in the long run right?

I just enjoy pulling them off for character reactions
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>>323497735
>nigga you do realize it's better not to follow them in the long run right?
You have to when you need a heal, which is the majority of the game. You only stop following them when you break the game and no longer need your party members to heal because you ghostwalker blossom dance everything.
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>>323497340
They're oddly satisfying when you hit combo arts in a row
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>>323497735

> I need healing!
> Sorry I'm already pushing my own luck
> Thanks!
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>>323497887

Breaking the game is the only way to play end game without wasting a shit ton of time.

How do you think they expect us to beat a global nemesis without breaking the game and killing it 100+ times per round? The want you to break the game.
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>>323497887
>you ghostwalker blossom dance everything
This is still being memed? Fuck its like one of 3 completely op builds and you guys are still pissing about with the easy option
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>>323498121
>Breaking the game is the only way to play end game
Which is why end game sucks ass in this. I remember when I first saw that The Calamity flying in Oblivia and thought, wow, can't wait to fight that. then it turns out you are just supposed to one shot it with ares90 and farm it for treasure sensor mats. It's shit.
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>>323497960
>not using L

>POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER
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Is there a storage unit so i can store all my cosmetic apparel for later?
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>>323498725
Nope. enjoy having a shit ton of tank tops.
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HOW DO I GET MORE STORAGE AND BOOSTER PROBES

PLEASE RESPOND
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>>323498849
seriously, fucking stupid
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>>323499385
>>323498849
>not selling the spares

also a lot of them are duplicates

when you see limited etc., sell the "low class" one

I think only two outfits have actual different looks in quality, the jacket and turtleneck
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>>323499517
>bloating my inventory with garbage in the first place
How about just don't do that?
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>>323498945

Track down Kristy and Tobias after every chapter. Do their quests.
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>>323497508
>huur

you have to decide between positioning, secondary cooldowns, and soul voices

that's what makes the combat so fun
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>>323499740
exactly, just sell

>>323499949
it's probably an XCfag
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>>323499934

I can never find Kirsty. where the fuck is she?
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>>323500027
when she has a quest for you she has a ?, and always resides in Administrative
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>>323499949
That's nonsense because you can do all 3 at once. Not to mention positional arts in this are weak as shit and only point in ever using one is for a bonus like TP gain. I love how people who praise the shit combat in XCX fail to understand it.
>>323500007
>exactly, just sell
What part of don't bloat my inventory in the first place did fail to understand? This is Mass Effect tier stupid.
>it's probably an XCfag
Bettergamefag, oh no, what an insult.
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>>323497340
I wish they would've added some depth an nuance to it.

Like, build in a meter so we can tell when a soul voice is coming up, and have the mechanics that fill that meter change for each class (So like, Shield Troopers need to draw agro to build the meter, Duelists need to do damage, Masterminds need to debuff, etc.). Having it trigger randomly is weird.

Also, it'd be cool if we could get chains going with different effects. Have purple->orange->yellow give a big damage buff, orange->orange->orange dish out a nasty debuff, green->green->green gives everyone an aura or reset cooldowns or something. Just playing a single round of Simon says is kind of disappointing.
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>>323500513
>you can do all 3 at once

no, you don't have time to always wait for that shit

if your health is low you gotta take the soul voice

this adds an extra layer if your moves combo and you have one on CD but need to heal
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>>323500607
soul voice isn't random, each one has a set trigger

open up the soul voice chart and take a look
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>>323500675
>no,
Yes.
>you don't have time to always wait for that shit
Most of the time you do. You only ever don't when you need to heal and the game prevents you from doing this basic thing when you want to and you are forced to rely on reactionary RNG nonsense.

>>323500790
>soul voice isn't random,
Wrong. Soul voices are triggered by a percentage.
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>>323500513
>don't bloat my inventory
>he doesn't sell shit immediately
>complain about combat while only barely touching it
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>>323500935
he means their effects you nigroid, not how frequent they occur
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>>323493625
I need a bigger gun

These right here are the most retarded lyrics in the song
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>>323500790
While there are set conditions for soul voices, there is still a chance for soul voices not to go off. So yes, it still can be a gamble and I would like a little less RNG in the game.
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>>323501123
retarded? yes

catchy? hell yes
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>>323500959
>don't bloat my inventory
>he doesn't sell shit immediately
Man you really are braindead. Please explain why you think bloating your inventory with garbage and making you sell it (for a negligible amount) is good game design.
>complain about combat while only barely touching it
I think you have problems reading champ.
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>>323495309
And that's why you do every side quest to get to 60 before that happens.
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>>323490640
I haven't even gotten to skells yet but I believe it. In all the xenosaga games the mech combat was shit. Granted it got better as the series went on but from x1 to x3 it went from "completely unessisary" to " meh". Ground combat was always so much better and more engaging.
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>>323501495
If Skells weren't in this game nobody would even play it.
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Yeah, the ground combat is way more interesting. Skells are completely OP though and once I got that g-buster and started one shotting everything there was no going back.
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>>323494109
>MFW doing Ackwar's mission
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>>323490640
I used my sell from about level 30-42 and from then on I started fighting outside of my sell because it was more fun and I kill stuff faster with overdrive abuse. So basically fight however you think is the most fun, he'll you can even jump in and out of the sell during combat. What's stopping you?
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>>323501364
I thought she is easy to deal with if you bring a full party. It's just that during the Skell flight mission you're alone.
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This is by far the most beautiful and imaginative videogame world ever. Holy shit, there's no way for any game in the near future to come close.
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>>323501303
>Man you really are braindead. Please explain why you think bloating your inventory with garbage and making you sell it (for a negligible amount) is good game design.

Because the purpose of those items is to give you those clothes. Some repeats itself because people lose them.

I see your point but this isn't ME tier shit where you get pointless items as these ones aren't, problem is that they should have tucked fashion items in its own category. Also you'd be surprised but more than likely your items from quest rewards are actually holograms.
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>Alex's quest
>he thinks having a skell will save him
>when my own skell was designed to fuck up mechanoid enemies
get shit on alex
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>>323501303
I dunno, you seem to focus solely on that aspect while the combat offers more shit like comboing arts or consumption
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>>323493641
>the telethia plume will be killed in your lifetime
what a time to be alive
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>>323502696
>combat offers mmo rotations
The main reason why it is boring and bad. But even mmos have atleast a skill ceiling, xcx is just gear and augments and nothing else.
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>>323502302

> it's not sand
> it's not snow
> it's fucking pollen

Holy shit that innovation.
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>>323490640
I really would like this game just a little more if Skells weren't in the game or at least not required to a point. I'm not a huge mech fan, I'm indifferent to them but I loved XC so much I got the game just off that.
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>>323503097
>innovation
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I fucking hate soul voices.

Not only because I'm terrible at them and miss like half of them, but they're also obnoxious and get in the way of gameplay. You can't do anything while the QTE is up so if you're in the middle of doing a melee combo you've got to suddenly stop when you're doing to press b at the right time which could potentially mess up some crucial timing you had on your art usage.

Also the game just throws them at you constantly, every other second you've got another fucking PRESS B PRESS B FAILED PRESS B, NOW PRESS B, FUCK YOU PRESS B, DON'T THINK ABOUT ANYTHING PRESS FUCKING B, NAH FAGGOT TOO EAR-NOW PRESS B AGAIN FUCK YOU PRESS B PREFECT NOW HERE COMES ANOTHER, HA HA TOO FAST FOR YOU FAGGOT, QUICK NOW B AGAIN, OPPS LOOKS LIKE YOU CANCELED YOUR OVERDRIVE PRESSING B TOO LATE!

It's just too much and really hampers my enjoyment of playing this fucking game. The first game had QTEs too but I don't remember them being nearly as fast or obnoxious. Like I remember nailing blossom dance every time and never having a problem with the QTEs but this one they're so fucking fast and there so fucking many of them it feels like I'm trying to X out of goddamn porn pop-ups on a late 90's internet explorer.
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>>323503097
>he thinks that's pollen

kek, you haven't seen actual pollen storm

>>323503073
>mmo rotations

wut
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Post your doll mains.

>Amdusias 30
>Formula 50
>Ares 90
>Lailah Queen
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>>323502302
>most beautiful and imaginative
I dunno, I thought living on two not dead giants who were locked in combat was pretty imaginative.
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>>323503190
pressing B is a soul challenge
you can do things just fine when they're up, get good
the only thing you can't do is change weapons, and possibly getting into skells
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>>323502614

> it's an Alex or Professor B quest
> they think they won't lose a third time
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>>323503190
>mfw B is the button to exit combat aswell
Game is not very well thought out. I even lowered my expectations because of japan's reaction and it still disappointed me.
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>>323503190
>LOOKS LIKE YOU CANCELED YOUR OVERDRIVE PRESSING B TOO LATE!

I really hate that.

XC had it set up that you had to D-Pad Up/down to get the Run option, but they had to go change it in XCX to any press of the B button.
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>>323503295
>one punch Mastema White Reaper
>Ares 90 for when I just want to kill 10+ squad mission task fuckers at once for easy blade medals

I've got one of each level 60 Skell except for Ares 70 because fuck the ARes 70 but I just dump em on teammates
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>>323503350
it didn't feel like living on two giants though, and the twist was lame especially the lol light is evil actually
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>>323503385
>you can do things just fine when they're up
No you can't. You have to either fail or pass the challenge before you can do anything. Which usually takes like half a second. This compounded by the fact the game likes to throw three or four of them in a row.
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>>323503190
sucks to suck, faggot
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>>323503483
>it didn't feel like living on two giants though
Yeah it did.
>and the twist was lame
No it wasn't.
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>>323503428
but exiting your skell is always a slow prompt

>>323503442
never had that problem, then again I get my prompts just fine

>>323503190
>git gud
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>>323503295

> Mastema 30
> Mastema 50
> Ares 90
> You better fucking believe it's Mastema the White Reaper
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>>323503543
But thats wrong, you faggot.
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>>323501303
They should've had a better inventory system in general. Fashion items like tank tops, school outfits, glasses, bikinis etc should have their own category
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>>323503609
No it didn't. They only have the background but you never felt like you're living on a giant.

And yes, it was lame because it was predictable and obvious.

>>323503543
Uh pretty sure you can. In fact I just did it right now.
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>>323503543
you're either getting stunned/staggered or just not paying attention, since you can still use arts and autoattacks and all those while those are up, whether you perfect, good, or fail them, whatever speed it's going

what you can't do is switch weapons by pressing X, which is inconvenient but not a very big deal
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>>323503657
>but exiting your skell is always a slow prompt
Are you fucking retarded? Exiting combat, as in put your weapon away, is not a slow prompt. Exiting your skell is not a prompt either, and it isn't done by the b button. You are thinking of when your skell is destroyed.

You are an idiot, like most people who worship this game.
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>>323503385
>>323503657
Considering I've already beat the whole game and killed every super boss if I was going to get good at soul voices it would have already happened.

As it stands now I just fail them as soon as they pop up because I'm not going to wait around to do them right and potentially fuck up my combos.

Fact is the system is shit and the goddamn QTEs are obnoxious as fuck.
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>>323502516
90% of the holograms are useless as well. I mean, does anyone actually display the weapons or armor holograms?
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>>323503772
>No it didn't.
Yes it did.
>And yes, it was lame
No it wasn't.
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>be me a massive faggot
>building mid range fatty
>believe samurai gunner is the best path
>melee damage is crazy good
>rifle can't do shit all and is almost pointless
How do i improve my ranged damage? I need my rifle to shit on stuff a little better
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>>323503909
mashing B like a monkey is probably why you cancel your overdrives
and then you blame the game
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>>323503859
Nigga you only exit in combat in B if you have no prompt.

Holy shit you really are an idiot, for a guy claiming to hate this game most of your complaints are addressed if you pay attention.

>>323503909
Or you know, you just suck at prompts.
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>>323490640
It's one of my lone complaints with the game. Ground combat is so fun once you start dabbling and messing around with other classes then it all gets thrown to shit with Skells where you launch everything and wait for CDs praying you get cockpit time.

I'd rather they copy pasted the ground combat than what we got
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>>323501749
>could've saved Graham the Cracker
>chose to let that asshole die instead of de-bomb him
>this makes it impossible to save Ackwar, who blindly runs into his death with pizza-man
IT'S A HORSE EAT HORSE WORLD
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>>323503737
>>323503772
>>323503786
It's not, learn to play the game.

While the QTE is up you are locked in the QTE, you cannot use arts you either have to fail or pass it first.

It gets in the way of me reupping my overdrive constantly since when you hit overdrive it almost always triggers one, which means when I want to hit it 3 times in a row I have to hit overdrive, hammer b to fail the QTE and then hammer A again once it's failed.
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>game is literally PRESS B TO NOT DIE
>fags defend it
lel

It's an insanely bad gameplay mechanic.
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>>323501123
I'd definitely take it over normal black tar.

Also it's right before the hypest part of the song.


>HOW DO I KNOW
>THIS GODDAMN STUFF IS ALL AROUND
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>>323504137
Except I just used an arts while B prompt is happening you nigger. In fact, I even did an arts (Sky High if you're wondering) then prompted B because it was slow.

>>323504147
>shitposts after being called on how he is a terrible player

at the very least though, it confirms my suspicions about XCX shitposting being at the time where it's near midnight in america
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>>323504137
But thats wrong, you faggot
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>>323504101
>Nigga you only exit in combat in B if you have no prompt.
Hey moron, if you press it too late, guess what you do? Exit combat. Both actions should not be tied to the same button. This is fucking obvious and a stupid mistake.
>for a guy claiming to hate this game most of your complaints are addressed if you pay attention.
For a guy claiming to love this game most of your rebuttals are childish, show lack of understanding and reading comprehension and don't excuse the tedious and poor design choices.
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>>323504137
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gravidus+xenoblade+x

watch literally any of those
most people actually ignore the soul challenge since they're not taking damage anyway, which means it runs the full duration, and you can bet that they are doing things while it's up

person on /v/ who complains about the game just sucks at it, what's new?
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>>323503995
No you cancel your overdrive is no QTE is up, not when you're hammering b to fail it.

At least pay attention.

>>323504101
Or the prompts fucking suck. When did /v/ suddenly start liking retarded constant QTEs overlaid over everything? Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit but I still find QTEs obnoxious as fuck.
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>The Miracle Maker
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>>323504339
>shitposts after being called on how he is a terrible player
Lel I'm not that guy.

Anyone with a brain can tell you QTE like garbage to heal is bad game design.
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Does anybody else skip every single cutscene in this game?

I sat through one of those "cooking with le loli" videos and have skipped literally every piece of dialogue and cutscene since. Just finished up ch 9.

The exploration and just tooling around smacking things in your skell is fun as hell, the story and writing is complete trash.
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>>323504407
>Hey moron, if you press it too late, guess what you do? Exit combat. Both actions should not be tied to the same button. This is fucking obvious and a stupid mistake.

If you press B too late, the game will actually recognize it as a fail rather than exiting you in combat. Really the only way to "exit" combat is if you see the Failure sign but still insist on pressing B.

>For a guy claiming to love this game most of your rebuttals are childish, show lack of understanding and reading comprehension and don't excuse the tedious and poor design choices.

Said the guy who can't even do prompts properly and instead blame it on the system rather than his own ineptness.

>>323504485
QTEs like this are fine since they're not thoroughly killing you and are actually very lenient.

You want shitty QTEs? Go play RE4 or Bayonetta 1.

>>323504593
>he relies solely on QTEs to heal
here's another one!
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>>323501123
Indeed.
I don't know how any person could write that and say "alright this sounds good"
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>>323504593
Maybe one day you will have reflexes better than a sloth, until then you can just wean yourself on turn based rpgs
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>>323504694
Well if you never watch them clearly you'll never know.
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>tfw can get max appraisal on nemesis solo
Thanks ghostwalker/blossom dance
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>>323504694
>skipping cutscenes on affinity and sidequests

I get it when you refer to main missions, but the rest? You're missing out on fun shit.
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>>323501303
>not using treasure deals
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>>323504339
It can still hang in the air, moron. But you've already either failed or passed it at that point.

The actual QTE lasts less than a second but the prompt says on the screen for long time after the QTE is passed.

At least know what you're talking about before you make an ass of yourself.

>>323504391
>>323504440
Are making the same mistake, while the QTE is active you have to either fail or pass it before you can use arts, the QTE says up long after this however which is probably what is confusing your retarded asses.
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>>323504704
>If you press B too late, the game will actually recognize it as a fail rather than exiting you in combat.
Wrong. You will sheath your weapon. This is especially frequent when binding with your Skell on the last PRESS B moment you will inevitably fail.
>Said the guy who can't even do prompts properly and instead blame it on the system rather than his own ineptness.
Hey moron, there are more than two people in this thread. My problem is they are tied to the same button which is a retarded thing to do.
>QTEs like this are fine
They are garbage and quite literally press X to not die. The worst kind of QTE there is.
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>>323504825
Yeah he sure is missing out on all the fantastic writing in things like Gwin's required affinity quest.
>hey Colonel, I feel like I'm not doing much damage against enemies, you think I need a better weapon?
>lol no, you just need to believe in yourself!
>wow I never thought of that before, thanks colonel!
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>>323505043
>tfw you sheath your weapon during overdrive
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>>323504694
Honestly I wish I did for the main missions.

Nothing worthwhile in the mission breif cutscenes other than Ch 8
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>>323503989
Go with raygun.
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>>323505078
>Gwin
There's your problem. Gwin, Irina, and Doug are the most boring party members.
Even space owen wilson is more entertaining, or Boze the xenophobic weeaboo sensei.
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>>323504910
but that's wrong, you faggot.
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>>323504910
the videos have people using arts while the qte is active
I don't know why you want to keep this going, in spite of "About 639" videos stacked against a retard on /v/
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>game expected Goetia's boss fight to be tough shit
>2 beam sabers on my skell since knuckles and grenade were worthless
>shield that buffed my melee damage
>Goetia dies in like 2 minutes
>had to grind out 3 levels to even start chapter 8
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>>323505270
>Goetia
>Skell

Sure thing broski
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>>323504694
I wish I skipped the game. Other than the world itself and a few funny memorable sidequests, the game is one big disappointment and bundle of dumb design choices.
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>>323505079
> tfw eternal milesaur knocks you into water while in overdrive
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>>323504910
nigger did you just missed what I posted

With the prompt still active, I can still do anything. That is my point to refute your supposed "you can't do anything". You're seriously just digging yourself a hole.

>>323505043
The bind shit is because your allies will bind do, now that is an actual problem because you have to set it up that you'll handle the binding.

As for the rest, it wouldn't happen because the first input will still trigger the message. Really, unless you mash B nothing bad will happen.

Yes it is dumb it's in the same button as cancel, but with the way it's woven it wouldn't happen unless you purposely press B repeatedly.

And no, this isn't the worst QTE as even if you sheath your weapon (assuming it happens), you can still pop in.

>>323505078
>all affinity missions are the same
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>>323505078
Why the hell does Gwin even exist?
He literally serves no purpose at all.
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>>323503469
I have been building up a set for the Super Bosses for my entire team with regular LV 60 Skells. Have Ares 90 just to grind the materials. Just playing it this way because I want to have fun on the superbosses instead of doing the 1 shot builds. It's taking a lot more time to do but hopefully I can get one last awesome fight against Telethia and Pharis
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>>323505230
>Gwin, Irina, and Doug are the most boring party members.
So are Elma and Lin.
Why the fuck is the main cast so goddamn boring compared to the side characters? HB, Murderess, Phog and Frye shouldve been main characters instead of those shitters.
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>people who haven't actually played the game pretending to criticize it with things like "you can't do arts while QTEs are active!" and "if you fail the QTE you exit overdrive!"
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>>323505357
He's obviously talking about the fight Goetia's Almandal you dumb fuck.
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>>323505270

> used drones
> fight's over over

It was only a second for me.
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>>323505458
THey are funny, they keep coming even when their faggotry is plain to see.
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>People on /v/ now defend obnoxious QTEs and moronic button layouts that will cause you to exit combat for missing said QTE

What has this site come to? I mean I love the game but this is just surreal. It's truly frightening just how bad this place has become I might have expected this from GameFAQs 5 years ago but on fucking /v/? Today? Jesus. What the fuck happened to this place?
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>>323505357
I forgot her mech's name, fucking almandal or something
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>>323505458
>people defend shit offline mmo combat and qtes
is this /v/?
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>>323505458
are they pcfags? because they're the only ones I know who pirated XB and then suddenly claim their love for it
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>>323505508
I killed her instantly on foot, had forgoten this part. My b
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>>323505549
Sorry you lost an internet argument
Maybe gamefags is better for you, they'll be nice and soothe you when you're wrong about something.
At least I hope so, for your sake.
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>>323505458
>He is consistently wrong and doesn't know what he's talking about
>Acts like he does
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>>323505549
>>323505575
>they button mash QTEs

saw the retards

look, if a prompt fails, pressing it again won't fix it, brush up your reflexes :^)
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>>323505384
Not only why does he exist, but why the fuck are all his affinity missions required to advance the story? They're completely inconsequential and are never referenced in the main story.
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>>323505549
This game has some of the easiest qte's I've ever seen. Even then you just hit A to get back into combat
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>>323505658
>I killed her instantly
This game in a nutshell. Why even play?
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>>323505549
>moronic button layouts that will cause you to exit combat for missing said QTE
factually wrong, I've pressed the button too late multiple times, never once exited combat unintentionally
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>>323505415

You best include Yelv and Nagi in that list, fucker.
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>>323505697
Are you this mad about being wrong?

Calm the fuck down before you hurt yourself.
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>>323505712
>he likes QTEs and thinks anyone who doesn't needs to git gud
Oh god, this board is underage.
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>>323505549
Or, it's a good game and you are just terrible at it? So us non disabled person laugh as you as we did for the last 12 years ?
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The game is good for the exploration and quests, but aside from that it has too many flaws in the combat system, the story is shit, and the post-game farming is truly MMO tier levels of boredom.
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>/v/irgins who are such obvious sheep they hate all reflex checks on principle and don't realize that the justified hate is for Press X to Not Die like in movie games
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>>323505702
>>323505458
>>323505697
like I said, it's probably the hour

you get posts like this >>323505857
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>>323505776
Factually wrong,

You press B to exit combat, B is also the QTE button, if you press B after the QTE has failed you will in fact exit combat or your overdrive.

I mean play the fucking game before you start shitposting.
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>>323505787
Yeah they're great too. It sucks that Nagi is locked out from a lot of story quests
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>>323505754
Because Almandal =/= the whole game?

Is SMB a shit game since you can jump o a fuckign goomba 3 sec in? Are you mentally damaged?
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>>323505697

> GameFAQs
> nice
They're internet tough guys when it comes to games. The criticism you see there would be the same as /v/'s if their rules weren't so puritan.
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>>323505942
I've pressed B while "Failed" was still on screen, didn't exit combat

play the game before you start shitposting
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>>323505942
Again

>button mashing B
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>>323505942
Way to move goalposts, where "missing the QTE" suddenly turns into "if you're mashing it after failing like a total downy"
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>>323505889
>Press X to Not Die
Literally what is in XCX. Try playing the game first anon.

I don't even hate this game, but this part of it is fucking garbage.
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Are we all ready for the sequel with Lao as the protagonist?
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>>323506042

Keep talking, I like laughing at retards
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You know, the shitposting doesn't even make sense.

So even if we accept "pressing B makes me cancel attack", what's stopping them from engaging the enemy again? How is it "dying"?
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>>323506042
You press X to get 5% health and raise morale 1 level. Try playing the game first anon.
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>>323505990
>Because Almandal =/= the whole game?
Uh, yeah actually. This whole game is about being a broken faggot and one shotting shit. Fuck strategy and fun. Just farm augments, mats, and overpower something and pretend its fun.

Unlike other similar games (firt Xenoblade, FF12) you have no chance at fighting higher level enemies. There's no strategy to save you. Only making an overpowered mech/weapon and one shotting it.
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>>323506040
>moving goalposts

At least learn what these words mean you goddamn moron.

The original post said "will cause you to exit combat for missing said QTE" if you 'missed' it clearly the QTE is already failed. I mean this is like first grade reading comprehension here. How can you honestly fuck that up. Then again you're defending QTEs so I guess this level of retardation is to be expected.
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>>323506184
It cancels Overdrive when you put your weapon away, and your character can't attack during that time.
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>>323506091
Fuck yes. Custom character garbage is not good for Xeno games. And the online shit is so tacked on and adds hardly anything to the game. The missions are piss easy, the only thing that is somewhat fun are the Nemesis bosses, but even those aren't mind blowing or anything. I wouldn't miss them too much if they weren't there.
Its fine to experiment, its good that they tried this out, but it does not need to be included in future Xenoblade games.
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>>323506197
>You press X to get health and to increase frequency of soul voices you need to get more health
So yeah, to not die. Try actually playing the game moron.
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Do the non-board sidequests have decent stories?
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>>323506204
Ahaha, oh wow, i think we got a rustled shitter here.

I'll let you cooldown. Have fun with Oskar
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>>323506315
...and? you can still attack again

so the shitposting doesn't make sense
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>>323506370
>Oskar
You mean that pathetic deer creature shitters like you died to?
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>>323506337
Some of the side-quests have wacky premises that can be entertaining.
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>>323505990

It's fair criticism against story missions. The game's main appeal is it's exploration, which will cause you to over level for the story missions. Then you have yourself anti climactic boss fights which is a staple in JRPGs.
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>>323506327
nigga soul voices dont' require pressing B
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>>323506304
Exactly
As I said, you changed "missing the QTE" into "if you're mashing it after failing like a total downy"
Now what we need to recognize is that for downies like yourself who can't understand basic posts like mine, they couldn't make enough failsafes in order to truly retard-proof it. If you're mashing B after failing it, you're already beyond help.
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>>323506416
>cancels overdrive
>YEAH AND
lel
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>>323506337
Some of them, really depends on who's giving them.

But we're trying to have an augment about QTEs here don't try to derail this into game discussion.
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>>323506416
You apparently don't understand how blowing 3000 TP for nothing can have an impact on the battle.
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>>323506204
Ah yes, i forgot how i farmed XX augments for my whole team for 100 hours so i could learn how to not play the game like you did.

I thought i used comboes in a Javeline + AR to sustain my auras and OD when irina gave me tp with last stand.
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>>323506561
I love how every moron defending qtes has poor reading comprehension.
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>>323506605
>an augment
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>>323506561
He hasn't played the game in the first place. Pressing B is for soul challenges, not voices
Not to mention how small of a influence it has anyway, like we just mentioned it's only for morale and 5% health which basically never matters.
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>>323506674
I love how you are so mad you confuse soul voices with soul challanges like a retard
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>>323506578
>he thinks everything relies on fucking overdrive

well now I know I am being shitposted

>>323506632
only superbosses have that and even then at that point 3k TP is easy to gain

>>323506674
said by the guy who said soul voices need QTE
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>>323506337

Much more interesting than the story or affinity missions. Doesn't really mean they're engaging.
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who /regionfirst/ here

got top 3 on the other hardest bosses

quit with first in 5 time attacks, lost them all for sure though lel
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>X threads all week have been nice
>suddenly this one is full of shitposters making factually incorrect claims
what happened?
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>>323506575
Mashing implies you have to hit it repeatedly, you only need to hit it once after the QTE is failed.

I'm seriously questioning if you've even played the game at this point because your whole shitposting scheme is falling apart and you can't even keep your story straight let alone understand how the mechanic even works for someone who supposedly never had any issue with it.
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>>323506732
>>323506746
>said by the guy who said soul voices need QTE
Not once did I say that. Good job proving me right kids. You can't read.
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>>323506772
>defeated by
ha ha, loser
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>>323506889
This gy is so MAD that he keeps talking even when he's been blown the fuck up for the last 15 minutes.

I fully expect you to threaten me with a LOIC soon.
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>defending qtes
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>>323506746
>only superbosses have that and even then at that point 3k TP is easy to gain

What do superbosses and post-game have anything to do with this?

Are you even paying attention?

>>323506731
He said to press b to INCREASE THE FREQUENCY of soul voices, not for using them
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>>323506863
If you're hitting it "just once I swear" after it goes through the small circle, after it converges to a point and stops, after "failed" pops up, after "failed" fades away, that's even more pathetic.
Stick to turn based RPGs for all our sakes.
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>>323506889
>in the quotes post
>he didn't say it
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>>323507009
>can't read
>LOL YOU MAD
Underage as fuck
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>>323501123

>THE WIND BLOWS HARD IN DECEMBER
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>>323507018
>Being bad
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>>323506775

It's what happens when you respond to retards, anon. /v/ never developed an immune system to deal with it and so the virus gradually turned it in to /b/. Take a look at how healthy your brothers at /a/ and /jp/ are.
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>>323507052
my point is that losing overdrive is pointless to cry on, since assuming you cancel your attack (again, I'm only entertaining this notion that it cancels even though it doesn't), you can immediately engage attack
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What the fuck is wrong with the cutscenes in this game?

>characters talk in the quietest voices possible while Sawano's music is all WOAAAAAH OOOOOAH AAAAAAAH
>characters also talk for fucking forever
>blatantly bad lip-sync (ie: Luxaar in general)
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>>323506731
>He hasn't played the game in the first place. Pressing B is for soul challenges, not voices
You are an idiot like everyone defending this garbage mechanic and cannot read.
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>>323507121
>Be shown wrong
>Keep posting

Keep going, i love it
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>>323507052
>of soul voices you need to get more health
This is, as I said, one of the ways you can tell he's just a retard who hasn't played it.
Some soul voices give you stronger debuffs, some give extra damage, some give TP

If there's even any that give health, it would have to be a single green voice that triggers after being crit 3 times or something
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Not like the QTEs matter anyway.

The optimal way to play is one-shotting everything in a Skell, or soloing with infinite Overdrive Ghostwalker.
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>>323507206
>losing overdrive doesn't matter
>using 3000TP for nothing doesn't matter
You are an idiot.
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>>323507238
>I was proven wrong, better claim the contrary and keep shitposting
>>
Hey guys.

Just give it time, pretty sure you can pirate XCX eventually and play it so you know what to shitpost. Maybe around 2018? :^)
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>>323507206
And then you die because you aren't in Overdrive.
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>>323507135
Its so bizarre that they picked that as the tyrant song.
Black tar's lyrics are garbage but at least theyre somewhat about fighting. The lyrics in Uncontrollable are about a couple making up after an argument. Like wtf
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Skells and the cutscenes/story ruined the game for me. I was loving it until I got my skell and then everything just felt like a boring chore, not to mention that with skells you pretty much always hear the same songs.
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>>323507293
B-b-b-but it's press X to not die! Really! 5% health!
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>>323507337
Yes, 3kTP is easy to gain.

>>323507396
>dying in a generic fight

you only die if you fight super bosses, but by then you have TP-gaining abilities that 3k TP is easy to recuperate.
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>>323507209
Its so fucking dumb that they didn't include any audio options. Especially when they basically hand you a dev kit in regards to camera control options
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>>323507284
Moron who doesn't know the difference between soul voice and soul challenge detected.

All soul voices heal the two characters who participated.
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>>323507284
Then you're the retard. There are plenty that give more health, and ones that increase the amount of health a soul challenge grants.
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>>323507209
lipsync is bad even in japanese
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>>323507515
>3kTP is easy to gain.
No it isn't.
>b-but post game
Wow, we are talking about the 120 hours before that dipshit.
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>>323507475
>If i keep saying they are QTE maybe some other retards will agree
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>>323507613
....and?
Nowhere in his post did he imply that his criticism was limited to the English version
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>>323507554
If they even do, it's on the order of 1% desu
Literally unnoticeable for the entirety of the game
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>>323490640
>didnt get my skell till hour 60
>at hour 100 and still on chapter 8 with a level 50 amdusias

i feel like i fucked up by grinding out a level 50 skell. everything is so trivial. even story mode boss ground battles i have 15 to 20 levels on everything. i just couldnt stop sidequesting, exploring and just all in all getting distracted and lost in the world
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>>323507515
You know there is more to the game than the post-game.

Like, everything else that came before when you don't have all your farmed TP boosters.
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>>323507662
Yes it is? Are you those fags who couldn't even amass 1k?

>>323507787
At which an overdrive missing won't kill you.

>>323507717
My point is lipsynching being poor is common in JRPGs with few being exceptions.
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>>323490640
end game you have to do both skell and on foot, so it's lots of fun
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>>323507685
What they're not quick time events now?

What do you classify them as 'rhythm reaction gameplay elements' or RRGEs?

Don't get all autistic on us.
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>>323507759
>it's on the order of 1%
Good job proving once again people who worship and praise this game don't even understand it. Just push buttons.

I don't blame you. The UI is ugly and completely fails at presenting information to the player properly.
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>>323496127
what? i just throw on one piece that has fuel efficiency and one piece fuel drain on bind and i have to fight for quite a while before my fuel runs out. even with the g buster
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Is there any place that sells healing and re fuels items?
Armory alley doesn't have a vender
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>>323507862
>At which an overdrive missing won't kill you.

Then you're playing overleveled and failing to give yourself a decent challenge.

There is no entertainment in that.
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>>323496378
>using the forced story characters on your main team
>using the cocky douchelord HB
>everybody dressed like shit
>playing a female when there are so many of them already

horrible
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>>323507950
>meanwhile people were saying that missing a Soul Challenge would make you lose overdrive and that you couldn't do arts when one is active
Yes of course, the people who praise it
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>>323507950
>completely fails
>soul challenge is the ones that pop out after B
>soul voices are the ones AI says

>>323508040
Except for the fact that I'm not? Overdrive isn't really necessary at all unless you go out of your way to be gimped.

So what's happening here is you being trapped to a corner because you have no actual, objective rebuttal.
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>>323507759
I think you might be fucking retarded anon. Soul Voice system is the bulk of healing. Saying Soul Voices only restore like 1% health shows you don't know shit about this game.
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>>323508036
The only place to get those is from division spoils. You can get from the division terminal in back of the barracks.
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>>323508106
>not using Hideo Bojima
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