Still better than Wind Waker.
Not really
>>323473890
*Twilight Princess
TP > OoT = MM > SS > WW
Hahah
no
>>323473890
>>323475052
lets not get out of hand here
oot > mm > tp > ww >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ss
>>323473890
Better than vanilla Wind Waker, although WWHD made some small changes that made the overall experience much more enjoyable.
>>323473890
Nope
>>323473890
I can give you that.
MM > OoT > SS > TP > WW
There wasn't much of an overworld to explore and it felt like everything was carefully constructed so nobody would ever wonder where they should go or what they should do, thus sucking all the joy of discovery out that every previous Zelda game had to one degree or another. Despite all that, the dungeons were good, swordplay was great, and there were a few standout boss fights. Story was average at best and the characters were decent.
Most enemy designs (both visually and behaviorally) were really disappointing, however.
I can place it above TP and WW since the game didn't bore me quite like they did, but it doesn't hold up to the fantastic N64 titles either. I have high hopes for the next Zelda since they seem to have recognized their biggest mistakes with recent Zelda games in the interviews, but it's all just words so it's good to be cautious.Every single 3D Zelda game has been at least decent.
>>323473890
In your opinion that is :)
WW > OoT = MM > TP > Skyward Sword
Top 3 Zelda:
1. ALttP
2. Wind Waker
3. ALBW
>>323476002
You've got it all wrong, mang
ALTTP>LoZ1>Oot>TP>WW>SS>MM>Z2AOL for console releases
LADX>OOS>OOA>LA>ALBW>MC>PH>ST>4S>4SA>TH for handheld releases
>>323473890
Definitely in the middle to uppper tier zeldas,
Better than the DS titles. And not worst 3D zelda, that's TP.Arguably better than ALBW if you thought that game was too fucking easy like me
>>323477060
>WW was my first Zelda: the post
>>323475052
>>323476002
>>323477343
>>323477060
Fucking hell the shear pleb-ry on show here.
3D
>OoT>MM>TP>WW>SS
2D
>ALttP>LoZ>LoZ2
Handheld
>OoS>LA>OoA>ALBW>>>ST>>>PH>FS
Now go wash the shame from yourselves.
>>323476450
I played WWHD as my first time and I can safely say that whatever they added didn't do fucking shit and it was my worst Zelda title to date.
>>323473890
OoT>MM>Oracles>ALTTP>SS>WW>TP>MC>DS gamesI have never played Link's Awakening
tp a fucking shit
3D:
MM > OoT > TP > SS > WW
2D:
LA > ALttP > ALBW > LoZ > ST > MC > FSA > OoA > OoS > AoL > PH > TFH > FS
>>323477343
>handheld releases
>4SA
Might as well throw in WW in there if that's how you're categorizing them.
>>323473890
Skyward Sword was shit. I wanted to like it so bad, but I just couldn't. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
>>323477926
roll
>>323473890
I played SS twice.
I couldn't even finish wind waker because it was so bad, so I agree with you, OP.
>>323477926
Let's find out, shall we?
MC >Tp > ST > POWER GAP > SHIT > OoT
Oot is overrated as hell.
>>323473890
>Skyward Sword was my first Zelda: The post
Wind Waker had a great sense of adventure and exploration. Twilight Princess took a step backwards and Skyward Sword just slid down the slope nonstop. Twilight Princess Wii had better controls for fuck's sake.
Here's my ranking from best to worst:
Console
>Majoras Mask
>Ocarina of Time
>Twilight Princess
>Windwaker
>Skyward Sword
Handheld
>Oracle of Seasons/Ages
>Minish Cap
>A Link Between Worlds
>Links Awakening DX
>Spirit Tracks
>Phantom Hourglass
>>323478885
>MMfag with shit taste
Like pottery tbqh.
>>323479010
Majoras Mask was awesome. Its not your traditional zelda game, so you probably never figured out how to play it.
WW > MM > OT >>>> SS
Wind Waker > Any Other Game
OoT > = MM > TP > SS > WW
they are all good though to be honest family and they all have their share of issues
>there are people that dont consider Wind Waker a top 3 Zelda game
>this sub actually has people who prefer SS over WW
MM>OoT>TP>SS>WW
Anything else is incorrect
>>323477603
>giving handheld its own category
>shear
>tripcode
Retard.
>>323477603
how can one anon be this right
>>323478827
What's the point of having a sense of exploration when there's nothing but empty oceans and a couple of rocks with a treasure chest? The 2D Zeldas pretty much all manage to have a dense overworld, all the 3D Zeldas have failed to translate this into 3D. The thing that 3D Zelda games excel at is their dungeon design and none of WW's dungeon's stood out.
>>323477603
Thats actually pretty accurate anon.
I want to like WW because the artstyle is great but I just can't. The overworld being nothing but tiny islands kills the game for me, most of the islands are just there to contain a thing that would have been hidden in the overworld in any of the other 3D zelda games. The dungeons are also pretty shit, I can't remember any of them aside from a few of the cool boss designs.
>>323473890
Wind Waker was pretty awful.
>Played: ALttP, OoT, MM, TP and SS
What should I play next?
Anything is better than WW
>>323480595
Tower of Gods and Forbidden Forest say other wise. The Earth Temple as well.
>>323483254
a link between worlds.
>>323483254
link's awakening and the oracle games are good
>>323473890
This. Skyward Sword has some of the best dungeons in the entire series. Easily.
Despite all of its flaws (and it does have a lot), it still shits on games like WW and MM which have piss poor dungeons. They both have the worst fans too.
MM > WW > OoT > TP > SS
>>323484063
while its dungeons are great, everything outside of them except the desert is shit
>/v/ suddenly hates WW
what the FUCK went wrong?
>>323483849
>>323483976
I was actually thinking about Minish Cap, them GBA graphics are sexy as fuck
>>323484895
its the zelda cycle bb
>>323478015
>MM at the top
My nigga, MM's the shit
MM > WW > OOT > SS = TP
Everything else is delusion.
Spoilers for the next Zelda:you fight Ganon at the end
No amount of time will allow me to forgive SS forcing you to repeat the fucking Imprisoned fight that many times as well as having Fi continuously interrupt every 4 minutes for the duration of the entire game.
>>323476002
No you stupid pleb
LttP>MM>TP>WW>OT>ST>SS
3D: MM>SS>WW>OOT>TP
2D:LTTP>ALBW>OaA>OaS>MC>LA>ST>Z1>Z2>PH
You mad yet?
>>323473890
>better than Wind Waker
Nostill a fun game tho
>>323473890
would you a gerudo?
So here's the inevitable rant post I presume you started this thread just to see.
Never played Skyward Sword, heard it was shit, but I have no valid opinions of it, so I'm leaving it out of this. This is about Wind Waker, with respect to the other 3D Zelda Titles.
For me, Wind Waker is a very mixed bag of positives and negatives. It holds a rather sami-traditional construct, meaning it does the dungeons and stuff in a more traditional Zelda way, but it has a world remarkably unlike any Zelda game (that I've played) to date.
And that's where things get, err, fishy.
See, when playing a more traditional Zelda game, one expects a rich world crammed with content, loot, and points of interest. This is easily found in OOT, MM, and TP. But with QWind Waker, it's a bit different.
Now, I'm not saying that WW lacks content. Quite the contrary, it has just as much, if not more content, then the other 3D titles. Only thing is, it spaces that content out. A lot.
It takes time to get to all of the cool places, to see the cool things, and to do the cool stuff. And during all that time, what do you see?
Not varying environments, ranging from large fields to lush forests to violent volcanoes to harsh deserts. Nope.
You see blue.
Blue water, blue skies (during the day). That, and some monsters here and there.
And that's what really got me about Wind Waker. At first, the vast ocean seemed really exciting, but as I sailed about, I got bored of it. It became arduous to travel, and I wished they had just set the game in a more traditional setting. Or at least one with less water. Far, far less water.
So, to summarize: Wind Waker isn't by any means a bad game. I just think that the large, boring ocean is holding it back a bit. And I know some of you anons don't mind the huge, boring ocean because of it's size, for all that exploration. And for you guys, I can see the appeal.
I just don't like it.
>>323487162
I would a gerudo. I'd a gerudo so hard.
WW>MM>OoT>TP>=SS
>>323487162
I'd a pirate
OoT > TP > WW > MM > SS
>>323473890
>Still better than Wind Waker.
What isn't?
So am I the only one that likes all of them?
ranking wise for 3D
OoT > MM > WW > TP > SS
Like I said, I like all of them.
>>323487725
just because were ranking em doesn't mean we don't like em. Just some more than others
>>323487608
TP > SS > MM > OOT > WW
>>323475052
>>323476002
OoT = MM (I view them as two sides of the same game with different focuses) > SS > TP > MM > ALttP > ALBW > PH > WW
WW has the worst dungeons of all time, so anything is likely to be better than it
>>323487443
>>323487561
how about if she was wearing red?
>>323488134
>Not MM
>>323483819
Earth Temple was unimaginably shitty. Sliding block mirrors EVERYWHERE.
I barely even remember Tower of Gods and Forbidden Forest.
>>323488302
Stone Tower Temple and Snow Head were God Tier
Great Bay was average as was the Swamp Temple
where's the leaked zelda trailer, senpai?
can't be, since it was impossible to play if you're left-handed
>>323483819
I'll give you tower of the gods but the other two were below average at best.
>>323488729
You do realize you can play the game left handed right? Just switch the nunchuck and the controller and you're golden.
>>323475052
Pretty close
MM = TP > OoT > WW
Don't know why WW gets so much praise.
>>323478827
Skyward Sword still had a good sense of adventure for me, although yes admittedly the exploration was cut down significantly, but I don't think any 3D Zelda has had good exploration, really, so to me, Skyward Sword was basically just going "FUCK IT. Can't get it right in 3D, we'll just make the overworld like a big dungeon."
And I really appreciated that kind of overworld.
True, I wish you could just fly into Skyloft like you'd dock a boat in WW, or actually go beneath the clouds with the bird once you visit each bird statue, I wish there was night flight, and I wish you could use certain items on the bird's back and actually have shit to fight in the air, and I wish there was a temple in the sky you could do with your bird accompanying you through it, and I wish there was the odd two or three room mini dungeon like the final stages of OoT which had red goddess cubes that contained new, offensive upgrades for things like the whip and beetle (blade-tip whip, katar beetle mandibles), and there were opportunities to use the whip to steal weapons or other things, and I wish that maybe there was another town in the sky or something you could fly over to, and I wish you wouldn't have to fucking flap the wiimote to make the bird ascend (why couldn't it just do it when you tilt or point up?).
But really on its own, Skyward Sword was a decent game. True, exploration is one of the core tenets of Zelda games, but I still think it was far smarter to give it up and focus on other things instead.
MM>OOT>SS>TP>WW
You faggets haven't realized that you can't really say a zelda game is better than another zelda game. Because each instalment is so different from its previous, it all varies with people's tastes and order one has played them.that is excluding the cdi and ds titles, those are always garbage tier
MM > TP = OoT > WW = SS
>all these people citing WW as the best
WW was my first and I love it dearly, but fuck, have you played that game? It takes 3 or 4 hours to even get to the first dungeon and the dungeons themselves aren't even all that great. Hyrule ends up being the biggest wasted potential of the game. It's not a terrible game, but it could've been a lot more than it was.
>>323489595
PH is alright and ST has Ghost Zelda and good dungeons despite its abhorrent overworld.
What is the most fun Zelda title in a while and why is it Hyrule Warriors?
>playing Ganondorf's maps in Legend Mode and taking the triforce from Zelda & Link
Who's getting TP HD?
>>323480159
Dungeon design and puzzle quality/variety/layout ranged between mediocre and bad. It's basically a hub world with a really long but also really comfy loading screen with shit tier operation for said loading screen (having to point the wind in another direction EVERY SINGLE TIME you wanted to turn, which by the way was the one fucking song that ever saw any real usage aside from the teleportation song).
The far-shorter-than-expected story had awful, stuttery pacing, character presence was pathetic and any character building or development was inconsistent and lacking as hell. The number of islands you could visit that actually had any worth and weren't dungeons could be counted on one hand. The minigames were shit. The point of two character arcs literally involved using the ghosts of their predecessors to brainwash them.
Medli and Makar were at least more useful than Ruto, but by no means were their dungeons better than Jabu Jabu's Belly. Ganondorf had next to zero presence or build up. The sidequests were pitiful, the side CHARACTERS were pitiful, and worst of all the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME had an extremely pervasive feeling of being lacking, being unfinished.
>>323480236
TP's story was so schizophrenic and so unable to keep decent hold of a plot thread or make natural turns that I very nearly got whiplash. The Spinner was fun but pitifully underused (and really there's no reason why it couldn't have had a wind-up feature mid-slide so I could keep beyblading everywhere forever) and the Dominion Rod saw no legitimate usage outside of dungeons or story, and even then outside of its home dungeon the number of times it saw usage could probably be counted on one hand. I'm glad Hyrule Warriors made them fun weapons.
>>323484951
Some people get really drained kinstone stuff but I REALLY, REALLY LOVED Minish Cap. It was SO CHARMING.
So good.
Remind me again why Capcom isn't still doing Zelda games?
>>323484817
I don't think that's fair, as most of what's outside of the dungeon is still a dungeon.
>>323484895
More like the babies that started with WW as their first or second Zeldas or "open world" game grew up and started looking at it more objectively.
>>323490979
Because SS happened
Not even as good as Darksiders.
SS was comfy but repetitive as fuck, none of the boss fights were interesting, and the game was way too long.
WW was the most comfy but it took so fucking long to get going, it took me like 5 tries to finally beat it because I'd keep losing interest
MM has an okay first dungeon but then the next dungeon, ice or whatever it was has a place in the top 3 worst Zelda dungeons, add on the annoying time thing and it makes me wanna kill myself. It gets better after that at least
OoT is shit until Adult Link
TP takes like 5 hours to get decent, but the second half of the game is enhoyable
>>323491480
I'd say the first time you fight Koloktos and the Ghirahim fights are good in SS. Beyond that, eh. Demise looked cool.
>>323491480
>none of the boss fights were interesting
I wouldn't say that. I liked Ghirahim's fights, it was neat when I finally figured out that you could just go up a level and drop on to the Imprisoned's head to smack at the sealing stone, Koloktos was surprising when you went through the three stage battle and suddenly got another three (which doesn't happen often)...I actually enjoyed Dreadlock Cycloptopus.
I like that Skyward Sword actually has a hard mode, and medals for challenging yourself further.
>>323487276
Nice post, anon
>>323491601
>>323492020
Koloktos was cool actually, be that boss felt like it has been done before, didn't WW have a very similar one?
>>323492298
I can barely remember WW's dungeons, let alone its bosses. I do know that SS is like the second Zelda to use the Whip though so unless it's the grappling hook boss in WW then I don't think so.
TP is my favorite.
>>323490535
gonna need to hear more about it first
>>323480595
>The 2D Zeldas pretty much all manage to have a dense overworld, all the 3D Zeldas have failed to translate this into 3D.
Good, there's no reason to do this. The 3D games have a greater variety of world structures and range from very sparse to incredibly dense within a given game. The 2D games don't have locations as interesting as the 3D games in general and an overworld in that style would feel unnatural.
I'm generally pretty accepting of most vidya opinions, even ones representing the shittiest of taste.
That said, I firmly believe anyone who thinks of Skyward Sword as as anything other than a horrendous, disappointing joke of a game should be banned from videogames forever.
>tfw accidentally killing a bug in SS
>its soul flies out
poor bug bro
also was SS the first game where link can take a shit?
>>323474249
>lol
Why was anything else said?
Good Tier
Every Zelda not in Bad Tier
Bad Tier
Majora's Mask
CDI games
Phantom Hourglass
