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>HURR DURR I JUST PRETENDED TO BE THE PRESIDENT HURR
Yeah, 2deep4me
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>play as a bad ass for the first 10 seconds of the movie
>Play as a faggot ass tranny who wants to be a bad ass for the next 40 hours of said movie

2deep4me
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when people say the plot is 2deep4u bullshit theyre actually talking about the ending
and even then theyre just talking about the themes
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>>323463698
>2deep4u
epic xD
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2 > 1 > 3 > GZ > 4 > PW > literal shit > TPP

Prove me wrong cucks.
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>>323466180
3 is better than 1. 3 is litterally jsut an inproved pushion of 1
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"Jack, it's not power I want. What I want to take back from the Patriots are things like... freedom, civil rights, opportunities. The founding principles of this country. Everything that's about to be wiped out by their digital censorship."

"Jack, listen to me. We're all born with an expiration date. No one lasts forever. Life is nothing but a grace period - for turning our genetic material into the next generation. The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That's how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father, with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? Proof of our existence - a mark of some sort. When the torch is passed on from parent to child... it extends beyond DNA; information is imparted as well. All I want is to be remembered. By other people, by history."
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>>323466180

2>3>1>MGR>TPP>GZ>PW>disappointment>my son>4
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>>323467863
Admit it the ending of 4 made you feel
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>>323467967
The ending of 4 was good, even though I do despise the game itself
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god MGS2 was such a mess
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>>323469996

Spoken like a true retard
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>>323469996
>>323470397
Congrats on having shit taste
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>>323470579
Why? Because I think MGS2 is rightfully shit?
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>>323470740
>>323470579
Samefag
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>>323463698
What was even deep about this game? A secret organisation that controls America were doing an experiment to see if they could manipulate real people to recreate a particular event. Nothing too complicated there, I'd say that only MGS4 has a retarded story (you fight an old man who has hypnotised himself into thinking he's your dead brother because he wanted to destroy the same organisation that you were trying to destroy).
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>>323469996
>Rising and 3 are his favorites

literally retarded
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>"2deep4u"
>multiple cutscenes and codec conversations of Snake and Otacon giving you overly detailed exposition dumps
>big dumb speech by Snake at the end explaining the core themes of the game
You were just too young and/or too upset over the whole "why do I have to play as this faggot instead of Snake?" thing to just pay attention as normal, nothing to be ashamed of because so was everybody else
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>>323470961
nice strawman
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>>323470948
>This mad
You MGS2 fags are the worst kind of cancer huh?
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>>323467863
>TPP better than GZ

Nigger I was with you until you went full retard
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>>323471071
you shouldn't even be allowed to participate in mgs threads
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>>323471194
You shouldn't be able to participate in life, kill yourself and fulfill the prophecy.
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>>323471194
>you shouldn't even be allowed to participate in mgs threads

because he hates the worst MGS?
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Arsenal Gear is the best section in any MGS game to date.
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>>323471376
Woah woah woah, don't speak for me, i don't hate the game it was a step forward in technology but it only focused on technology and everything else sucks.
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>>323471054
He's right though.
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>>323470750
Because you think MGR is actually part of the series and that it isn't some shallow hack n' slash with an edgy high school tier soundtrack
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>>323471819
>Because you think MGR is actually part of the series

because it is. It's also where Raiden finally got good character development
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>>323463698

lots of words and endless exposition though
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>>323471887
>raiden actually got good character development in MGR and not MGS2

Now I know you're just trolling
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>>323471975
he was a whiny bitch to the end in MGS2
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>>323471887
MGR is good but let's not pretend that anything is worthwhile besides gameplay and bosses
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>>323469996
You included Acid but not MGS4?
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1 > 3 > 2 > 5 > 4
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>>323471975
Raiden was a whiny faggot throughout MGS2 and he suddenly turned into a badass ninja in MGS4. He never had any character development.
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>>323472040
>questioning things and being genuinely confused is being a bitch

Stop parroting things you read here new friend
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>>323472070
watched an LP of it
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>>323472040
No he wasn't. He finally came into his own in the end until they retconned his entire character in MGS4.
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>>323472073
>implying 2 is better than anything
I get maybe story and one of the only good twists in the series but the gameplay doesn't hold up as well as it did back then.
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>>323472320
Shit i meant 1 not 2.
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>>323472215
MGS2 didn't change raidens past though, he's a cold blooded killer and the patriots used him until the end
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>>323472179
I am taking about more than the Arsneal Gear segment, which got so stupid I skipped the cutscenes and I just wanted this horrible game to end
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>>323470397
>They don't like Metal Gear Solid 2 and rank 3 over the first
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>>323472516
Those are literally the best cutscenes in the game when solidus, ocelot, Olga, snake, fortune, and raiden are all together though. He wasn't whiney at all, you plebian.
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>>323472528
Because MGS2 is shit, MGS1 has a better story but MGS3 has better gameplay.
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>>323472680
too bad the naked nonsense, retarded Roy, and the section feeling like a bad trip did not give me a very good impression on that part of the game
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>>323470397
>playing NES Metal Gear instead of MSX one
>Liking the NES metalgear
SHIT TASTE
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2 > 1 > 3 > V > 4
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>>323472963
What did raiden being naked make it hard to repress your gay feelings?
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>>323472505
The point of the ending in MGS2 is that Raiden finally broke free from being a puppet and only doing what he was told.

And then Kojima got pissed at all the manchildren complaining and so he turned him into an emo cyborg 2cool ninja flipping warrior, effectively rendering the whole message that he would choose to be his own person meaningless since he was forced into a role he never wanted to be from outside forces. In this case, the fans.
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>>323473028
I played the MSX one i just used the NES MG case. I only played Snake's revenge and it wasn't very good.
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>>323473050
this 2bh familia

MGS4 apologist threads when V came out were pathetic af
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2=1>3>4>the rest
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>>323463698
3 > 2 > 1 >> 4 > V > PW
None of them is bad though
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1 = 2 = 3 > 4 > PW > TPP
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>>323473184
You're partially right and my point still stands. Solidus thought he broke free from being a puppet too
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>>323463698
how fucking retarded do you have to be to think a game that literally spoonfeeds you everything is 2deep4u?

I mean like holy shit, have you ever seen a movie/painting or read a book?

And you wonder why people think gamers are retarded, narrowminded autismal degenerates
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>People constantly bitch about MGSV not being finished
>Neither is MGS2 but everyone loves it
Unless i'm missing something it's never shown how solidus and raiden got on the roof.
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>>323473229
They really are, I like 4 and all but it deserves that spot
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>I had trouble following a plot that is explained twice to me
fuck off
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Ghost babel is better than MGS1.
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>>323473668
that was explained in some special commentary.

Arsenal Gear slamming into NYC was cut due to 9/11
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>>323469996
MGS2 was cool, it was more like mgs1 but the story and shit got way2japanese and the story pacing was like watching paint dry and then being scared by a burning corpse of a business man falling on the painted object, and important cyphered documents pouring out of his briefcase and then the goverment comes and surrounds you in but an handsome rebel grabs you and tells you everything.
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>>323473668
>how solidus and raiden got on the roof.
Arsenal Gear crashes into NYC, it's in the script but since 9/11 happened literally a week before release they removed the scene
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>>323473734
explained twice?

If one of them was AI Roy, I skipped him due to the nonsense he was speaking earlier.
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>>323463698
MGS2 really was too deep for me but I kind of like it for that I still don't know what the fuck Snake is talking about at the end tho
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>>323473668
Arsenal slams in to Manhattan but it was cut because terrorists
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This game scared me as a kid and i never played it again.
>Raiden turn off the console
I did and never will i go back, fuck you MGS2 and fuck you MGS2 fans.
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If you don't like mgs2 you are genuinely dumb. Not even baiting here, it's objectively the best one for anyone who doesn't rank games like a retard in a 90's gaming magazine.
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MGS3 was really shit to play because the camera and them not being able to fix fucking controls after 3 goddamn games. Also the lack of AA and small resolution makes looking at anything not in your face impossible.

They had to make a new version fo the game to make it playable.

I don't have it but the 100 people coming here complaining and telling me i'm a fag for not buying substinance is exacly proving my point
MGS3 avarage at best.
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>>323474261
MGS2 had the exact same camera issues, faggot.
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>>323474363
But the environment wasn't constantly clashing with it.
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>>323473976
Did anyone listen to what Emma said, she broke it down so simply I understood it back when I was 11.
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>>323475013
I don't recall.

All I recall of Emma is:
pissing herself
MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING
Using a tranq pistol to drag her everywhere
Sniper escort
dying
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>>323475125
Raiden repeats everything she says so if you have trouble following just watch out for the parts he questions her on
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>That part where vamp runs up a wall
Quit right there this is where MGS died for me.
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>>323475324
I only played MGS2 once because it was that bad and Arsenal Gear being a mess did not help thing at all
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Man I used to love this series, but after going back to 2 and 3, I realized that I fucking hated it.
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>>323474185
Such a blanket statement yet so true
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>>323474363
It didn't because it had solitron.
In mgs3 they remove the one thing that made the camera work: solitron.
You are forced to use first person view every other second since it's the only way to detect threaths before they see you. And even then it's iffy.
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>>323473668
when did the whole mgs2 vs mgsv meme start?

I like both
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>>323464252
kek
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mgs2 is my favorite one to replay.

The hour long motorcycle crap at the end of 3 is such a boring chore. If it wasn't for that I would rank them evenly, or even in favor of 3 for its better boss battles.
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Is 2 the most overrated game ever made?
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>>323477097

No its rated correctly. One of the most fun and replayable games ever. If you dont like the story you can just skip the cutscenes. There is no Kaz or Ocelot constantly spewing shit over the radio.
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>>323476979
Around the same time the GZ is better than TPP meme I would think
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>>323466180
>Favorite MGS is MGS2
>Least favorite is TPP

It's like you know nothing about the franchise and why MGS2 was so great.

MGSV is, horrific flaws and all, the best MGS since MGS2.
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>>323477269
Too bad there's plenty of shitty bomb defusing and backtracking
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>>323477038
Same. I've replayed 2 the most over the years its so perfect. Not too long not too short, loaded with exposition and dialogue, lots of themes, new things to be learned every time. You ever hear of a streamer called UKnighted? He runs through all the games on EE regularly and his MGS2 story run was nuts, dude was talking about every little detail and hidden thing. MGS2 is jam packed it's awesome
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>>323477734

Yeah. All the mgs games have tons of details, mgs2 is just one of them.
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>>323477857
Definitely, 2 is just the best
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>>323471376
Fix your brightness, anon.
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Why did Solidus need to kill Raiden again?
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>>323478856

He wanted to get into Raiden's brain to access his neural network, leading him to the Patriots.

He really should have just tried to cooperate with Raiden and Philanthropy. Olga's child would still be alive since Raiden's vital signs would be intact.
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>>323475369
>Vampire running up a wall is too much
>Floating telekinesis gimp isn't
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>>323479017
wow what a dumbass
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>>323479472

Yeah its not explained very well. He just says "I have reasons for wanting you dead" and then goes on about Raiden's brain implants.

Not only that but he then eggs Raiden on by telling him he killed his parents. He clearly wanted a fight. Whenever I see "Solidus was the good guy" I have to laugh considering Raiden was the one who was reluctant to fight him. He even tries to disobey his order of killing Solidus but the Patriot AI tells him that Olga's child and Rose will die if he dies.
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>>323467646
great line.

I didnt like mgs2 as a game but the message behind the ending was very interesting
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>>323480420
MGS2 had a message?
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>>323470928
watch superbunnyhops analysis of mgs2
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>>323480420
>I didnt like mgs2 as a game but the message behind the ending was very interesting
I thought literally everything about the story was horse shit except the general idea Kojima was trying to convey and the final speech.

But I love it as a game. I love speeding through all the guards and skipping all the cutscenes.
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Metal Gear Acid is a good game
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MGS2 > MGS1 > MGS3 > MGS:GZ > MGS4 > MGSV
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>>323480984
Played some of the first only.

But it was decent. I didn't think I would get that feeling from a card based TBS spinoff.
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>>323480629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2YuPGYabw&ab_channel=SuperBunnyhop

if anyone wants clarification about MGS2's message that Kojima tried to convey then this is a must watch
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>>323481402
I am not giving you more views

Plus it's like an hour long
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>>323474006
>game about censorship censors itself
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>>323481793
censorship?

I thought it was about information control?

the first part of this video (like from the start to like 2 minutes in) sums them up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk79VcE7kLw
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>>323481793
It's not about controlling content, it's about creating context.
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>>323477428
It isn't a meme. Both have very similar core gameplay obviously. But almost everything the phantom pain add actively made the gameplay worse.
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>>323481793
>game about censorship

Nope. The Patriots specifically say they're not aiming for censorship. On the contrary, they want to GIVE society information. The issue is that THEY select what is passed on across generations and what isn't, instead of it happening naturally.
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>>323482317
They withholding information they do not like.

It is like a genocide committing villain saying shit like "I am not causing suffering. I am giving everyone peace."
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>>323482317
>the ruling body selects what info to pass on and what to withhold.

Sounds like censorship to me
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>>323463698

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnacqXhNiL
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