What went wrong?
>>323445185
Archers being put in a game that was meant for melee combat.
>>323445185
Updates that kept breaking more things than they fixed.
>>323445185
Nothing, game's still fun you fucking dolt.
>>323445185
Did people play this on PS4?
it got me by surprise when i saw the game on the PSstore...kinda curious
>>323445324
Get good
>>323445185
Devs ignoring exploits that the community has been complaining about since release. Still fun if you get trashed and play with friends
>>323445185
people like you not willing to put the time in to git gud you filthy fucking casual.
Eventually you realize you'd be better off playing mount and blade
>>323445185
Way too many unnecessary updates that lowered the skill ceiling, slowed down the gameplay, and changed the physics.
It's a real shame. This game for a couple months after release was easily the GOAT melee game. I used to love that game. I think I got to lvl 32 before quitting, back when lvl 32 was a lot
No directional combat.
Makes the game look like cheap, last gen garbage.
War of the roses was looking good, but the devs were fucking retards that had no idea how to patch their game.
>>323446606
WOTR also felt like shit to play
>>323446716
I thought WotR was solid, but two things completely ruined the game
>Squad spawning
>No collision detection between players.
I couldnt play it for more than a week, because those two flaws were so glaring, they utterly ruined the game
>>323445185
The spin slashing etc that people claim "i-it's j-just skill g-guys!" made everything look and feel utterly fucking retarded. It had good mechanics though and feinting fools in then shanking them felt satisfying, but the way that the combat worked otherwise was a total turn off.
>>323446280
>tfw you're level 50 with over 1,200 hours and hate every second of playing it because the community is shit
>>323445185
Filthy mason peasants
>>323445324
They're literally free kills
>>323445185
Two words.
WIND.
MILL.
>>323449035
Let me guess- people shit on you for only playing archer or opting for the 100 tons of armor ballerina knight?
Shitty devs that wouldn't fix their game.
>>323445912
/thread
Its fun as fuck and worth 1000s of hours
>>323445185
If I wanted ballerinas, I'd go to dance class.
>inb4 git gud
I can do it fine, it just took the enjoyment out of the game for me - I liked how it was.
>>323445185
>What went wrong?
the userbase
once it became a meme game, it was ogre
Poleaxe4life
>>323445185
>What went wrong?
Kicks are OP and buggy
Feinting is too easy to perform compared to how powerful they are.
Too many retards complaining about "exploits" like dragging and backswings.
"muh realism"
All in all a pretty good game.
If you can't deal with archery...
...I dunno you are a loser I guess.
Ez to kill ez to outplay
great game except for the literal bugs that retards like
>>323454204
praise while at the same time condemning feints and kicks
NOT OKAY:
>backwards overheads
>extreme sensitivity drags that let people swing 360 or delay their swing for 20 minutes and it hits you for full damage moving at a snail's pace
PERFECTLY FINE:
>everything listed on the keybinds tutorial in the loading screen
>>323454909
git gud scrub
>>323454909
Reverse overheads are fine, you are just bad.
>extreme sensitivity drags that let people swing 360
Yeah, except that Chivalry has a thing called a "turn-cap". You can turn your DPI up to a million and it won't matter because the second you attack, your sensitivity gets locked to a certain DPI.
>>323445185
You are forced to exploit the animations if you want to play anywhere outside Low-ranks.
>>323455864
regular swings with the zwei hit in a 180 cone, by swinging only 180 degrees you hit everything in a full circle. It only requires you to drag across a decent mousepad. Turn cap doesn't work
>Reverse overheads are fine
they aren't
physics doesn't work that way
>>323445324
This.
most game communities suck but I really enjoyed it back when there was VOIP. The game was much more fun in general and it also had more personality. Seems like the game pulled itself away from that and went a more corporate casual approach rather than leaving the game at what made it so great. Then they they added a bunch of casual features and really did nothing to improve the experience. Its kinda funny because the ultimate warrior version of the game is actually better than the main game now(granted that still doesnt really compare to my experience with the game in its state in the past)
>>323456436
>physics doesn't work that way
see >>323454204
>"muh realism"
>>323445185
retard/greedy devs
>>323454909
>extreme sensitivity drags that...
I'm so tired of retards complaining about drags when they know absolutely nothing about how it actually works.
There's a fucking sensitivity-cap during attacking and parrying.
>>323455864
>>323455810
>you are just bad
>git gud
Just because someone doesn't like them, doesn't mean they can't do them.
Not him, but I clocked up a lot of hours in this game, am a relatively high rank and can do every fancy trick you can think of.
But I still think it's shit, I preferred it on release.
I wanted a bash and slash game, not fucking spinning ballerinas.
>>323456987
And what exactly is the problem with that?
The skill-celling would be ridiculously low otherwise.
game reached flavor of the month status with the youtube crowd who picks up on every new niche game and when someone else blinded them by hype marketing they moved on leaving a small band of good players and the rest are callous try hard morons. Sadly this is the fate of most games like thisplay Mount & Blade instead
>>323457079
>muh release
It was even worse on release, knights were faster then, meaning dancing was a legit strategy you could excel at.
>>323456989
360s are easy
>>323456436
>>323456779
>muh realism
part of the reason I was interested in chivalry in the first place was because it advertises itself as a mostly realistic medieval combat game. I want the medieval combat to make sense and not use impossible physics.
It's like if you were playing battlefield and all the enemies started flying around shitting rockets like UT, realism has it's place and I believe chiv would be better suited to realistic combat.
>>323457238
I didn't mind that though, at least there wasn't spinning.
Don't get me wrong - I still enjoy Chivalry, and having learned all the combos and drags, it does feel good pulling them off.
But I just don't enjoy it as much.
>>323445324
not once in my 50 hours played have I seen archer that mattered. Yeah it annoying getting head shotted from far away but thats about it.
All those patches after the Deadliest Warrior expansion. The devs completely fucked the balance.
Now that I mentioned it, the Deadliest Warrior expansion.
>>323457079
git gud scrub
>>323457617
I am :^)
>>323457536
I like playing shortbow aggressively, that broad dagger can fuck up anyone
>>323457717
no now git gud scrub
>>323457371
>360s are easy
No one said they were hard faggot.
>>323457380
The problem is that you've gotten into your head that it has to be realistic in principle, but the truth is it wouldn't be realistic even if we followed your advice as there's more things to address than spinning.
From a video-game perspective there's absolutely no objective argument as to why spinning is bad.
>>323454204
>Kicks are OP
Somebody's never played FoF with boots on
>>323457818
>my advice
I'm not giving advice - I'm saying what I didn't like about the game.
I'm not saying about how to make it good.
I'm just saying what I like, and what I don't like.
>>323457818
>I'm so tired of retards complaining about drags when they know absolutely nothing about how it actually works.
>There's a fucking sensitivity-cap during attacking and parrying.
he literally did
>From a video-game perspective there's absolutely no objective argument as to why spinning is bad.
I want a realistic video game
ba-bam
>>323457745
Warbow is completely useless now. I used to do counter archery all the time, but after one of the last patches Broadhead Warbows are no longer OHK to archers in torso.
What retarded bullshit is that.
>>323458020
>I wand a realisdig bideo gaem XD
>argument
Pick one, slick
If it's not touted as realism, don't expect realism
>>323458020
>he literally did
He literally didn't.
If you claim that upping your mouse sens somehow improves your dragging then you obviously don't know shit about the dragging mechanic.
>Video games
>Realistic
Pick one faggot.
>>323458315
>it's not a valid argument because I said so
>If it's not touted as realism
It was though, originally they claimed "most ambitious realistic swordfighting" or something along those lines
>>323458354
>Video games
>Realistic
why can't I pick both
why do you fags have to ruin literally every game by being so casual that you can't handle a little realism
>waah I died when he cut my leg off
>whoa I love being a space muhreen that can soak 50,000 bullets before even breaking a sweat
>>323459015
go play CoD scrub :^)
Damage had no speed calculation, In mount and blade if someone decided he was going to try and be clever and hit you with a war cleaver at the exact start of his swing it will whiff and do no damage and will soon have an awlpike in his guts. In this it doesn't matter in the slightest of how fast the weapon is moving or at what point in the swing the opponent is hit, the damage calculation is flat.
Never liked that mechanic or lack thereof.
>>323459260
>I can't think of a comeback
>>323459015
>>it's not a valid argument because I said so
It's not an argument at all, that's why it's invalid
>>If it's not touted as realism
>It was though, originally they claimed "most ambitious realistic swordfighting" or something
I'm looking at Chivalry store page. It says nothing about realistic gameplay.
You're pulling shit out of your ass, champ
>>323459391
>implying realism is a argument
>>323459265
>Damage had no speed calculation
there's no way of implementing that without making the game ridiculously clunky and buggy
>>323459265
this would fix drags and reverse overheads
>>323459523
if by "fix" you mean "break", then yes, you're absolutely right.
While I too can respect M&B's approach to a combat-system, I too understand that they're two vastly different games.
>>323459473
>>323459474
>it's still not an argument because I disagree
I want a realistic video game
at the end of the day that will still be an argument for realistic game-design
>>323459706
>I want a realistic video game
No, what you want is a simulator.
>>323459706
Then Chivalry isn't for you. Plain and simple.
Now go play Call of Duty, it is developed with realism in mind :^)
Hitboxes that make no sense.
>>323459680
>if by "fix" you mean "break"
If by "break" you mean they wouldn't work then that's a-ok in my books, there's no reason your sword moving at a snail's pace should inflict the same damage as the sped-up version
>>323459706
No, it's not an argument
It's what you want
Learn the difference after you graduate highschool
>>323459848
and now we're back to "muh realism"
anyone else a kickstarter backer? i'm sort of ashamed what the game turned into
>>323459848
You realise that the game would die if you did this?
Maybe that isnt such a bad thing actually.
>>323459785
No, what I want is a realistic video game
>>323459814
and I stopped playing it after it turned into "who can drag the hardest"
>>32345980
it sure is
>I want x realistic mechanic
>why
>because I want realism
>>323459941
>implying we ever left
>>323460090
I seriously doubt that, games on PC don't "die" unless their servers get shut down, and even then people still play them.
>>323456436
Actually, physics DO work that way.
>>323446180
Only people on TDM and Free for all.
Almost nobody playing anything else
Not much really. It's buggy as fuck and in no way looks realistic, but it's really fun and addictive. I've had over a thousand hours of stabbing and poking and I've yet to get tired of it.
>>323456398
Nope. High level play is more about how big your balls are and learning how to feint properly.
>>323460418
The physics of the hit do, but the force behind it isn't there, see momentum damage arguments
>>323460719
momentum doesn't mean a thing if your blade is sharp enough.
>>323459391
thanks for letting me know
>>323460928
it does if your opponent is wearing any armor at all
>death cams are no longer first person
biggest mistake
>>323460696
Yeah, dragging is crucial to understand - but it is the tip of the iceberg.
Have you ever played against some of the really high levels (the 1000's of hours kind) and they are fucking psychic and confident - they feint so well, and read you like a book.
>>323460928
except everyone is wearing thick leather and armor
>>323461067
>i don't know how meme arrows work
>>323460418
I'm just browsing the front page so not even going to read the full conversation, but if your referring to weapons doing an exact amount of damage regardless of when the swing connects, physics don't work that way.
In fact if you've played a non-shit game like Mount&Blade, in that game your swing has to land properly with a proper distance between you and your opponent. If for example you have a spear and your opponent is in your face, stabbing will result in a "Poke" where no or little damage occurs. The same applies if you swing a sword and your opponent is literally standing next to you.
i cant believe people are so held hostage by the hours they put into this once great game that they would defend nonsensical exploits like reverse overheards that make the game unintuitive and unfun
a 'git gud' exploit is something like wavedashing or bunnyhopping, the presence of them improve the game, add depth, options and strategy, but chivalry's exploits are dumb and remove skill that was once required
replace the combat system with mount&blade's and it will become a 10x better game
>mfw reading this thread as a comp chiv player
The majority of this games problems stem from one thing-there isn't a Damage gradient throughout the length of your swing. Strikes should do the most damage towards the middle/end of a swing. The tail end and beginning should do less depending on the type of weapon used, as in warband.
>>323461485
>comp chivalry
I think the joke here is you
>>323461485
>competitive chivalry
>>323461485
You are the problem why the game is shit.
>>323461493
there are people in this thread right now arguing against this
>>323461485
>comp chivalry
I remember watching a video and realizing how autistic you all are.
>>323461393
>>323461493
These
Warband is a superior game. What's funny is that little melee fights are only a small part of Warband (See "Mount" and Blade), yet it still destroys Chivalry in that area.
>>323457131
>The skill-celling would be ridiculously low otherwise.
And what exactly is the problem with that? The most fun I had with the game was shortly after I picked it up right after it launched, and neither I or anyone else had any idea what we were really doing.
>>323462047
I don't even play Chivalry.
![LocnessDesignsdotcom[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fD2sjwl.jpg "LocnessDesignsdotcom[1].jpg")
>>323462047
only 4 more steps to go, buddy
>reading this thread as a comp MnB player
jesus christ. your game sounds fucking awful
>>323445185
the game is fine it's just that the community died or people lost interest
>>323462196
>only one stage left
How long will it take goddamn.
>>323462146
Casuals ruining games as usual.
Stick to single player games and leave me to my multiplayer experience.
>>323453816
Aw that'd be cool.
Like from final fantasy, a dance class that focuses on complex movement for maximum damage.
>reading this thread as a comp WOTR player
holy shit you guys are pathetic.
feature creep made the animations shit
>>323462763
I'll stick to my fun multiplayer games thank you very much.
Meanwhile enjoy your "competitive" games for your bragging rights that contribute to nothing.
>>323463004
>being a comp WOTR player
holy shit this is pathetic.
>>323445185
The mod was better
>>323459502
PvkII feels ok with how it works it.
Just a machinegun of "bullets" in a line. if you are moving your mouse all around you will only connect with a few but if you keep your mouse focused right on their body it will do goo damage.
Though I've never played chivalry, I saw a few videos last year that looked pretty great but I wasn't sold.
>>323461393
No-damage hits in M&B are usually called 'glances' in my experience.
>>323463093
Casuals, when will they ever learn?
>>323463047
feature creep?
>>323463004
>WOTR
Damn that shit sunk
It was many times worse than War of the Roses, but bought enough youtube publicity to eclipse it. Then both games went to shit and fuck you.
>>323445185
The game died when they ruined fists and every other fucking single handed weapon and made knights unkillable unreachable faggots and they kept making it worse and worse and worse every week until everyone stopped playing because we got tired of relearning the game physics every mother fucking week.
Old fists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjaJH2XSZW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZUflrnPT0U
New fists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en8gOmOIV4M
>>323445324
git gud you fucking crybaby
I used to get like 60 kills a match by shoving arrows in your heads and who knows how many assists because I timed it so when you went to swing your shit, I shoved a warbow arrow into your fucking guts. I bet you are one of those faggots that would try to kill me while im using my bow and I bait you close and switch to fists and straight punch you in the face and interrupt your shit.
>>323458142
The warbow does like 1/3rd the damage it used to last I heard.
How fucking much more do these faggots want?
>>323457536
>archers dont matter
Nigger if you stopped moving id put an arrow in your head
out snipe all the archers on your entire team and bleed you tons of tickets
if you were constantly moving, id shove an arrow in your chest and forget you, which would leave you in 1hit range for any of my teammates.
gitgud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12KG6uxHwRc
>>323456989
this.
you cant just turn your mouse up to 8000dpi and flip your shit all over your desk. theres a cap.
>>323464327
Too little, too late anon
But you are right. Having to relearn everything after each patch got fucking annoying. Fuck Torn Banner, they didn't realize what a great game they had on their hands and fucked it to hell by listening to whiny retards that couldn't git gud.
>>323464327
extreme autism
I think I am one of the first draggers. About a week into release I would use a two handed sword, jump into a crowd screaming "THREEEEEE SIXTYYYYYYYYT" over the mic flail my mouse to the right, and get like 5 kills every time because knights are tanks and I could install hit all of them at once. Dragging is not skillful at all and does nothing to improve the game. It just makes a disconnect between the animation and what's actually happening. It means you have to have meta knowledge you can't really glean from playing. Dumb.
I like that aiming influences where you swing, but saying it isn't broken as fuck is hilariously wrong. Also duelers are fucking stupid and ruin every good server.
>>323462763
Pretty autistic viewpoint. I played tribes and cpma for over a decade competitively you faggot, it doesn't mean I want everything I touch to cater to spergs like you.
>>323465104
>I played tribes and cpma for over a decade competitively
And if some casual scrub comes and says that Tribes is too hard and should be made easier and simpler so that casual scrubs like himself won't get completely shit on, you'd be OK with that?
![2783721-4365956619-20140[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/xrjkPCh.png "2783721-4365956619-20140[1].png")
>>323465508
>make the strategically deeper by making it mechanically shallow
>it's a hit success
>>323465508
If it made me enjoy it more yeah. I don't bind myself to mechanics, especially if they're inherently flawed. In the case of Ascend the jetpack movement was already fucked before they nerfed speed. Leveling the playing field because you're too incompetent to fix a broken mechanic is preferable imo.
>>323464927
Autism?
You want to see autism?
Let me play men at arms with firepot and stand next to the ammo chest and throw firepots nonstop at you guys every 4 secs.
Sometimes id throw them at teammates just for dramatic effect of flaming knights running at you.
>>323464484
I think it was more the competitive people complaining about a mechanic on extremely high end gameplay where you could like prewind inside people and hit them so it was unblockable which they catered too and ruined the gameplay for average people who have no idea how to play at that level and so all youd have to do is >>323453602 or SOW or claymore and just spin around getting like triple kills.
It probably would of been fine if they made single handed weapons longer, but they introduced this like 1m bubble around everyone and kept the weapons the same length.
So you never could hit anything because your weapon wasnt long enough and if you got close, youd get pushed away by that bubble.
So youd miss practically anything and longer weapons became even more powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en8gOmOIV4M
My favorite patch was the claymore or the halberd patch where they swung like 2x faster than any weapon like dagger speed and all i did was hold left mouse button down and parry and swing like 4x faster than anyone and you were impossible to be killed by anything but maybe getting faked by a Maul.
>buy chivalry on release
>great massive battles
>battles actually took time and felt like a slog, yiou would fight the player inf ront of you and break through holes in the defences
>epic duels at the end where players woulkd block, parry, feint and do fairly no glitchy swings
>no drags
>quite a lot of tks now
now we have
>hardly any big battle servers
>battle revolve around players kiting the men in front, sprining past their enemies down the line and getting back stabs will doing air jumps and crouches
>noone ever fights the min in front of you, as soon as people come across any resistance they turn around and run off
>literal playstyles where greatswords stab, 360 and run off, all in the same spring animation
>epic duels are now glitch fests where each player tries his best to exploit the shoddy physics system with overhead swings. back breaking limbo dodges, air jumps, pike kiting and every other exploit under the sun
>game no longer feels like a medieval battle game, but instead shitty exploit simulator.
that is why the game went bad
>>323463004
>comp WOTR player
DoTbows sure were high skill ceiling rite
The people who criticize feinting while defending reverse overheads and animation abuse.
>>323445185
Only things I think are wrong with it is having 3rd person, people abusing 3rd person, and the fact that Deadliest Warrior is dead.
Also DW has pretty lame voice acting for the most part.
>>323466650
this explains it well.
It just feels like TB stopped caring at some point.
Things like running up to someone, bending backwards, and starting a maul windup inside the other player's model for an unblockable hit is the norm now.
I still have fun occasionally jumping in with some friends to a big server but it's always for gimmicky shit like a spear squad or as group of sling archers.
>>323461485
>comp chiv player
Why?
>tfw mordhau is being made for autistic duel comp players
>tfw no TO because muh esport
fuck this planet
>>323466942
>people running up to you, turning around, crouching, and presenting their head to you
sounds like an easy kill, if they're doing it often you should see it coming
>>323466753
feinting is as broken as the rest of the game, maybe they changed it but on release you could feint up to the point in a swing where your hitbox became active, which caused them to become a totally unreactable guess between feint or no feint
>>323466650
>>323466936
Yes I agree. Basically the game was fun until tryhards figured it out and made it impossible to have a decent team game.
spin2win
shit devs
shit devs that also broke the game
>>323467301
The point of no return for feinting a swing is much earlier now and I believe it uses more stamina, feinting is fine.
>>323447538
I bet you complain about rocket jumping too you casual faggot.
Team killing is more fun than playing the game the normal way
>>323466942
>tfw my friends and I used to play as a phalanx squad
>3 knights up front
>1 vanguard in back
>1 man at arms moving throughout
>Im archer in middle
>we push our way through the map and objectives
>tfw friends tower shield blocks arrows coming for you
>mfw I feel completely safe shooting arrows at people
>>323467696
At least rocket jumping takes a modicum of skill.
>tfw the game made me jump some 20 levels and i found myself at 46 with people busting my balls because i don't play like a 46
>>323467696
Rocket jumping
>Takes skill
>Requires the acquisition of a RL in the first place
>Has a tradeoff of health
>Is a clever use of intuitive physics instead of bad physics
>Adds depth, strategy and meaningful options to both you and your opponent
>>323467861
>group of three
>one knight with a tower shield who does literally nothing but block
>two feint spamming spears behind him
>>323461485
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>323461308
>i don't know what sarcasm is
>>323469250
>neither do I
>>323467268
I remember we were doing a 2v3 point capture map an we just ended up man at arms jumping around and throwing firepots.
>>323459502
In deadliest warrior they've made it so you do the most damage during the middle of the animation and the least at its start and end.
>>323460036
I am, but I did it only because it was a way of getting the game cheaper, so that was the lowest tier I guess, 25 $.
I got 400 h or so out of it, so I'd say it was money well spent.
Haven't played it in years, though.
>>323454204
>Feinting is too easy to perform compared to how powerful they are.
>Too many retards complaining about "exploits" like dragging and backswings.
>feints are too ez ((((
>dragging and backswinging is hard ))))
shut the fuck up you dumbass mongoloid the game is way more balanced for feints than it is for all the other stupid shit the "competitive" community pulls, especially shit like lookdown/lookup overhead alternation which is literally uncounterable at any ping above 50
>>323470570
>which is literally uncounterable at any ping above 50
I just love it when faggots expose themselves for the shitters that they are, so I don't have to.
>>323445185
it never came to consoles
>>323470987
i'm not him and exploit mechanics are for babies who can't get kills fighting like a human
>>323467861
I don't think you know what a phalanx is
>>323470987
you can't use your reflexes to block a lookdown overhead from a greatsword above 50 ms ping. you will get hit the exact instant that the animation shows signs of beginning. so unless you are inhuman and have a reaction time of 100-150ms or something, you will have to block pre-emptively, which will open you up for a look-up overhead or just waiting 0.3 seconds before swinging your sword. the game isn't really balanced for attacks that have no telegraphs.
you can do the same thing with the norse sword stab but it's 100% more cancerous to do it with the greatsword because it deals like half your health as damage.
if there was something wrong with what i said, please correct me
>>323471253
It did?
COME ON THEN YOU KEKS.
LETS JOIN A SERVER.
>>323471467
you need to learn to look at your opponents torso instead of just focusing on the weapon.
if he's hunched over, it's an accelerated strike.
if he leans back, it's decelerated.
block accordingly
I played the ps3 port, and although it's very fun when the connection is good the performance is garbage. It was released at the end of 2014 and still no patch for any of the issues. The devs dont give a shit, they won't support any console port.
>>323471848
I love leaning back, then leaning straight forward and swinging to catch people out.
>>323471848
doesn't change the fact that the game can't deal with greatsword users with over 50-70 ms ping
you'll still have to block pre-emptively if they parry you with the greatsword. if they hunch over but don't riposte, you'll have blocked too early and they'll fuck you in the ass.
i guess you could feint them so they can't riposte you but that's apparently illegal move on every server that tryhards who abuse lookdown overheads exist on
>>323472076
as it should be
>>323472416
>I guess you could feint them so they can't riposte you but that's apparently illegal move on every server that tryhards who abuse lookdown overheads exist on
Rank 55 here, the other high-rankers who bitch about feints are always the ones who go full defensive so they can cheese you with ripostes.
Fighting them is like trying to get a hermit crab to come out of their shell.
>>323471253
It did, and it was terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUFnP7DKhl8
>>323471461
well we were more of a 5ish man group not an army of hundreds of people.
>>323473027
or like this if you get the idea
>>323472656
The console community is still pretty decent, we don't have any of that nigger ballerina shit either.
>>323472076
what the hell is torn banner doing nowadays anyway
surely chivalry made enough money to start a new project
>>323472771
it really requires some crazy mental gymnastics to think feinting is bad but all the other shit is okay. like, if a guy is just gonna sit there defensively with a greatsword out and i'm a man at arms, what else am i supposed to do besides feint? i know he's not going to trade attacks with me because he's so invested in his lookdown-overhead riposte playstyle, so there's no reason not to feint literally every time.
>>323445185
People got good.
>>323446537
>slowed down the gameplay
wat?
>try to get into horde mode
>the dev-supported horde mode is fairly fun and actually has you hold out in a dungeon-crawler like scenario, where kills and points give you better weapons and abilities respectively
>but the devs hardly ever update it and lategame just throws as many super-buffed as possible enemies with 500 health and 80% damage reduction at you as possible
>and the spawning system is fairly flawed to the point where mobs will only spawn if a player occupies that room and only up to a certain limit, so most people just go all rooms open and camp the room with the narrowest opening
>the town version suffers from the same beefed up enemies but mid to late game just involves kiting all of the mobs into infinity since they can't catch up to you and all have at least 200 health
>at least it has an upgradable ballista and more enemy variety
>try to get into the sandcastle defense version
>map is actually impossible to defend because of undead archers with a sight range of a mile and 100% accuracy if you're standing still
>map is way too big to defend outdoors
>mobs are beefed up even worse and can't be staggered or stunned
>donor-only weapons that are overpowered
>the only way to kill anything lategame is to lure the mobs nearby traps and use a long/heavy weapon to hit them into spikes
>community filled with backseat moderator faggots
not even the good weapons like ballista crossbow do any decent damage late game, everything but greatswords and bastard swords is useless
>>323467263
PLEASE tell me that's not the case...
I was so excited for Chiv with some improved mechanics and a decent engine. Jesus christ.
I guess it's Chiv until Chiv 2 or whatever they're doing...
>>323461485
Who are you mate I probably know you
Anyone wanna ft10? I'll garb ANYONE in this thread 10-0
ITT: autists hating on an indie game that gave them hundreds of hours of fun, tons of maps and a good expansion pack.
This is why publishers ignore PC gaming these days
>>323473979
>lots of hours means you have to think it's a good game
>>323464327
well said, definitely miss older chivalry
>mfw reading this thread as a competitive csgo player
>>323472772
hahaha what the fuck
>>323474204
>They tricked me into playing it
>I didn't like it at all
>>323475154
I've played 2,000 hours of TF2
I wouldn't recommend it to my friends
end of discussion
>>323445324
This
It's got nothing to do with balance like some autists seem to think. It's that they're basically the anti-fun class in an otherwise enjoyable game.
>>323466650
Warband multiplayer was ruined by the same sort of spinning faggots, the only counter for them being cavalry raids.
>>323475067
>mfw reading this as a competitive white male looking for hire in a world that is but a fragment of it's former self, lost to the ages
>>323475467
TF2 changed. Chivalry didn't.
I'm still waiting for another e-peen chiv player to contest my claim of being the best duelist ITT
COME
AT
ME
>>323473217
>implying it's out of choice
>>323475667
I've played hundreds of hours of F3 and NV, I wouldn't recommend anyone play them, they're buggy messes even with mods.
200 hours in DaSII and I would NEVER sell that game to another person
>>323475981
i guess you're really bad at managing your time then, friend:^)
this is the only game I still consistenly play. It isnt perfect, but besides quake or something, this game (at least duel mode) is completely based on skill. Who ever is more skilled will win. No gay ass quick time events, just reaction and timing is what matter most. Its a great fucking game.
>>323476239
>never had a case of "nothing to play"
fuck off normie
>>323462225
Same lad. M&B may look like ass but it's charming when you actually have decent gameplay
>swing animations take forever
>if its an enemy youre dead the moment they start theirs
ayy
>>323466769
>playing a melee fighting game in 1st person
>>323445185
Mousedrag mechanics
That one easy mode class that 90% of the playerbase uses with the long swords and poking sticks ruined the fun. There's no point to archers, they're just shitters wasting a player slot in the server.
>>323475475
Fucking this. I hate being peppered with arrows by the time I get to an actual sword fight and my health being at 30% by the time I actually fight.
No reason to play it because Mount and blade:warband is just better in every way.
>>323445185
Autists taking the game way too seriously and spending thousands of hours practicing how to break the shitty combat engine in order to give some semblance of depth to a really shallow game. It was fun around release when no one knew what they were doing but 'serious' play is the most tedious shit imaginable.
Look up competitive laser tag on Youtube if you want a good metaphor for modern Chivalry.
>mfw reading this thread as a competitve Exanima player
>>323479105
The casual mind truly is a sad one when it exposes itself so blatantly.
Community is pants on head retarded.
So are the dev.
Can't go wrong man, surely fucking can't.
>>323445324
so much this
>winning heroically 1v3
>as you swing to get the last you get a fucking arrow in the chest that fuck up your timing and he kills you
