Should I feel ashamed that I enjoy visual novels?
I feel like I am getting too old to play these kind of games (27). Anyone else have an opinion on this?
Why should you feel embarrassed for doing something you enjoy
Nah, you're okay.
Hoshimemo is pretty bad though.
I find myself enjoying visual novels more and more and hating /vng/ more and more. Visual Novel discussion used to be soo much better on 4chan. Now it's all EOP VS JOP. I blame both fags.
>>323359108
I don't see the problem. What is wrong with enjoying something?
if anything had no interest when younger
some are interesting, generally like whimsical fantasy stuff or melodramatic life simulations
>>323359108
Here's a protip from someone in his 30s: if you reached your 20s and you weren't "too old" to be doing something then 10 or 20 or 30 years isn't going to make a difference.
or->over
>>323359108
>I feel like I am getting too old to play these kind of games (27)
What type of games do you feel are more appropriate for someone of your age?
>>323359108
no man
they're like books
but with a different style of bookmarkers and have voices
>>323361560
I don't really know, that's a good question.
>>323359108
>ashamed of playing games intended for adults
I dunno, try Kirby or something.
OP is female.
>>323359108
>Should I feel ashamed that I enjoy visual novels?
Only if you're a pleb that still only read english ones
>>323363231
London?
>>323359108
>caring what other people think
>ever
Just do what feels right senpai.
>>323360894
being eop is getting worse and worse but I'm still too lazy to learn. before you just had to wait forever for a game to get translated. now we have all of these fake babelfish translations and you can't tell what projects are real. even "official" localizations are getting infiltrated.
>>323363750
it doesn't matter it's a game or an anime writing doesn't matter there's no need to understand everything the emphasis is on visuals and sounds and if there's a sense for that the actual meaning of the words most of the time does not matter
>>323363587
>caring what other people think
>Just do what feels right senpai.
It's just a visual-heavy medium for reading stories that are usually written for adults. Doesn't seem much different than, say, reading graphic novels, and that's totally acceptable.
Yeah that's pretty pathetic, man. You are in good company here though, you didn't really come to a place with an objective view on the subject.
>>323359108
Visual novels are just books with pictures presented one sentence at a time
If they offer any kind of interactivity or provide the player with any way to impact the story, they're also a video game
Literally nothing wrong with them
>>323364521
>adults
Try manchildren. Adult themes written in a 4-grade level writing style (with coloful pictures too!).My favorite is still FSN
>>323359108
>too old to play games literally made for adults
also Mare a shit
Yume best girl
>>323359108
Liking anime or any Japanese media (other than some of their older films) past 15 years old is pretty bad, man. It's a bit late to care about it, though.
>>323365471
too bad yume route a shit
>>323365826
How about being a fedora-tipping neckbeard who enjoys videogames on his 20s?
>>323360405
>Hoshimemo is pretty bad though.
What makes you think this? It's a pretty decent moege with good production values.
>>323366291
What's the difference between that and what I just said?
>>323365952
Eternal Heart fixes the inconsistencies
>>323366798
i would read it if I could into moon
>>323364181
you might as well just play with agth if you have that attitude. all these fake translations just ruin it for the people who were holding out for a real translation.
>>323365826
What if I like media from all different countries internationally and don't limit my experiences to just what's made in my own language? What's the point of segregating it? It's all TV shows/films/music
>>323370092
Normally it would be fine, but the fact you're this defensive about it is not winning you any points.
>>323359853
People, my parents especially, constantly judge me and sigh deeply whenever they see me playing any form of video game,
>>323359108
>Implying visual novels are games
>Implying you shouldn't be ashamed to be a filthy, cancerous weeaboo who literally spends his days wasting away breaking his left mouse button to generic weebshit dialogue regurgitated over 9,000 times
>>323370905
stay mad dork
>>323359108
no, especially not a really nice one like hoshizora
>>323360405
i disagree, but whatever
>>323366798
https://vndb.org/v2959
kill me, it hurts
>>323366338
her theme was cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzFwd9bYmcsher h-scene was great
>>323370748
That's their problem, not yours.
>>323371660Too bad her route was pretty meh, still, not as bad as aoi's
OP here, I think some of it comes from the fact that with most other video game genres you can get some type of validation of your hobby. Coming out and saying you are a fan of visual novels isn't the same, it brands you in such a way with a stigma. Atleast that is something I feel, maybe I am just paranoid or over thinking it. Given a lot of the answers here I can see that any shame I feel on it is mostly due to my own insecurity. I just wasn't sure if anyone else ever felt that way.
>>323370748
so would you be happier doing what they want you to do?
stick with your hobbies, dude. From my experience, having friends w/ similar hobbies makes it easier to ignore those that judge you.
>>323371860
i liked her route, honestly
it wasn't great, but it was nice
>>323371660
her h-scenes were the best part of her route
they were fucking hilarious
>>323372012
Just felt way too short for me, probably came out of that vn liking kosame the most as far as character routes went.
>>323372171
>you will never hug your imouto wearing bunny pajamas
it hurts to live
So which routes in Hoshimemo are actually worth reading? It seems like most of them have been trashed at one point or another in this thread.
VN is great for people with jobs. as it does not require skills, be invested in writing and stories. Any good VN list?
>>323372346
Good joke. Weeaboos don't have jobs.
>>323359108
Just play what you like and don't worry about it. I don't think it's something you can be too old for, and even if it was, "maturity" is overrated anyway.
CS Lewis said it pretty well:
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
>>323372012
I came off of reading Shinigami no Kiss, right into Hosizora no Memoria. Both have similar themes and I love the grim reaper theme. Hoshizora was better but Shinigami was still a fun read.
>>323372414
i have a job but it's well below what i could be making considering i'm working a shitty tech support job when i have a compsci degree
but then being able to play vidya on the job is a huge plus and the other benefits of the job (good coworkers and boss, good healthcare, good pto, good food nearby) offset it a bit.
>>323372414
Only in Japan.
>>323372539
maybe i'll read this next then, is it moege like hoshizora or is it something else
>>323372295
Honestly the only legit "bad" one is Aoi's, and thats mostly cause it drags on for fucking ever, the rest are fairly good, and even the mehish ones are fairly shorthas an enforced route order if i remember right to get true end.
>>323371931
>>323371753
All the friends I had are now long distance and it's simply not the same when they're not there physically to support you. I've honestly contemplated suicide for the simple fact that I feel alone and constantly being judged because of my hobbies by me own family all the time since I was 16.
>>323372608
>japanese Weeaboos
>>323372295
i read the entire thing and liked every route, but aoi's does drag on a bit, yume's route is a bit short and weird, and dog's route (whatever her name is, can't remember) seemed a bit forced to me at times
i still liked them, though
>>323372697
yea, its a moege. Has a little sister route, childhood friend route and shinigami route. It's not particularly long. The soundtrack was good and it had a great feel good story. I enjoyed all the routes.
>>323372876
Howdy /v/, my name is Kenichi Smith.
I'm a 27 year old Japanese Toonaholic (Cartoon fan for you foreigners). I draw cartoons and comics on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior American games. (Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty)
I train with my 1911 every day, this superior weapon can shoot straight through steel because it kicks ass, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my gun license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.
I speak English fluently, both the Midwestern and the East Coast accents, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about American history and their Constitution, which I follow 100%
When I get my American visa, I am moving to New York to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Nickelodeon or a game designer!
I own several cowboy outfits, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to America, so I can fit in easier. I keep cool to my elders and seniors and speak English as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck in America!
>>323372492
well, time to read ef - a fairytale of the two
>>323373081
nice, i might have a next vn then, considering i keep putting off all my other ones
>>323359853
>Why should you feel embarrassed for doing something you enjoy
When it's socially unacceptable. Pedophiliacs like fucking little children but does that mean they shouldn't be embarrassed by it?
>>323373140
>>323372776
You sound like you never moved out. You're not cut out to be a weeb. I would get out while you can, the hole only gets deeper from here out.
>>323372697
Similarity results:
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji: 1.0000000000000002
Hoshizora no Memoria -Wish upon a Shooting Star-: 0.522418699581786
Himawari to Koi no Kioku: 0.4390953286800066
Wind -A Breath of Heart-: 0.43753281907894004
Koi ga Saku Koro Sakura Doki: 0.43510544921133526
Real Imouto ga Iru Ooizumi-kun no Baai: 0.42511330014516996
Tayutama -Kiss on My Deity-: 0.42498282201013804
Hatsuyuki Sakura: 0.42494162835220983
Flyable Heart -The future has already begun-: 0.42299116475469606
Hanairo Heptagram: 0.4210167890622991
Honey Coming: 0.41851918771267504
well, that wasn't a surprise
I haven't really found another visual novel I enjoyed since Hoshimemo. I read two routes of Princess Evangile and felt like I was really having to push myself to keep going. It feels like that vn just had a whole lot of dry filler.
>>323373319
>getting mad over funny jokes
>>323373456
guess i'm going to be saving this thread for reference at this ponit
Finally started getting into it, and it's somewhat like reading a short EZ book, but more flipping through the h-scenes when they ain't doing much.
Just finished Saya no Uta, and really enjoyed it when it started goingArkham Horror Hunters.
>>323359108
Yes, you should
>>323373140
quality post
>>323372569
You don't need to lie. I can smell your Mom's basement from here.
Also I need to remind you, weebshit isn't vidya. Visual novels don't have gameplay.
>>323373818
I would argue they engage the player just as much as most telltale games.
>>323373818
who needs a job when you make 60k/yr from fucking runescape goldfarming
it's fucking hilarious that a fucking shit MMO is making me so much money and despite all your shitposting there's nothing you can do about it :^)
>>323373453
Already too late for that, I've been a weeb for much too long already.
>>323360894
>EOP vs JOP. I blame both fags.
Did someone say shitposting?https://my.mixtape.moe/ftrlqw.mp4
>>323373256
VNs aren't affecting other people.
>>323359108
Do you have a wife? If so, no, you shouldn't be ashamed. If you don't then yes.
>>323374384
What weeb stuff you got going on? How many figures? Do you own any doujinshi or manga? If you're only reading VN, you can stop and read real books. Audible makes them easier to consume.
Right now I'm sitting a room full of anime merch, figurines, Vocaloid CDs, video games, physical VN, posters, onaholes, and doujinshi. I literally had every inch of my walls with posters and every flat surface with a figurine before I moved. Now everything is in my closet, which I can barely put clothing in.
You're not deep in if you're still having thoughts about it. You can still back out.
>>323374752
With the legal system being the way it is, marriage is a bad idea no matter what your other circumstances are.
>>323374752
No, dont have a wife. I don't think I am ugly, just a robot who knows nothing about talking to women, maybe thats why I find VNs so comforting. I don't play them to replace real relationships, but I don't exactly know what a real romantic relationship would be like. Other than what i've seen in different movies, tv shows, anime, and vns.
Icriedduring the ending
>>323375087
What's wrong with liking Japanese stuff? Even if you REALLY like it like you do, there's nothing wrong with doing so unless you like it to the point where you're a NEET leeching off the taxpayers with autismbux.
>>323374752
>marrying when over 50% of marriages end in divorce, allowing the wife to take 50% of the husband's shit
>>323375541
>unless you like it to the point where you're a NEET leeching off the taxpayers with autismbux.
What if I actually have autism?
>>323375541
Nothing is, but this fag is so stuck on it. He probably has other things going on. Everyone has an odd hobby or two, fuck that's what makes people interesting. If he likes anime and VN, fine, but he's letting it define who he is. He doesn't have a friend with different interests to get him into other things or watch other things, or he's not making an effort to branch out to other topics, or maybe he doesn't care and he just wants someone to jack him off until he feels better about himself.
Just don't make it everything you are and you'll be fine. You like anime? Go ahead, talk about it. Just make sure its the right time and place. Even if you were talking about your latest ass fuck, no one wants to hear about it unless it's relevant to the conversation.
>picture books for teenage outcasts
Be very ashamed.
>>323359108
Eroge are the best source for loli fap material, and 27 is certainly not too old to be fapping.
How likely it is that during my late 20's -30's, I'll still be playing videogames? Not as a NEET, but with a job (although still no gf).
>>323376994
wat
>>323377043
100% - the chance you die during the time period
>>323377043
Not likely. Actually it depends on your job and motivation.
Pic related. I only have 5 hours on maybe 10% of these games. And this isn't even my PC, WiiU, PS3 collection. I just buy them.
>>323377471
Might I ask what is your job and how much time do you work? How exhausted (to play vidya) do you feel when you get home?
>>323376040
I wish people who liked sports knew when to stop.
At least the hardcore weeb will just slink off when he realizes noone's hanging around him anymore. Sportsfags think it's everyone else's fault and push the issue.
>>323373140
no way if you enjoy it...
I've noticed as I've gotten older I have a lot less time so I only play games I like a lot and don't try to force my way through games that are merely "Ok" for me....I've pretty much given up all jrpgs and have given up VN. I'm more of a gameplay guy than story so unless the game is reeaaallly short that's why I skip those genres.
>>323376994
Do you have anything that doesn't involve pissing?
There's nothing wrong with it. If you are playing those targeted towards the worst otakus then you might want to reevaluate your life and start looking at media from a more critical perspective. But not all VNs are pure trash, and you don't have to exclusively read intellectual literature.
>>323378426
Lolis pee a lot.
>>323378038
That's probably because weebs know mainstream society looks down on their hobby, but it considers sports acceptable. So the sportsfags get upset when others don't share their enthusiasm for the "correct" hobby.
I've never read Hoshimemo. Should I?
>>323377820
I work in composites. I work 50-60 hour weeks ideally, but that's because I have no motivation to actually play games. On my days off I usually sleep, read, or browse this hellhole, so I opt in on overtime whenever I can.
When I get home, I usually fall asleep, but that's because I don't really feel like doing anything other than laying down. When I get up, its something like 11PM and I have to wake up at 3AM, so I eat and try to go back to sleep. Most of the time I masturbate, and fall asleep at 12AM.
>>323379357
This. It's not time, its just motivation in the end. Some days I come home and play until I sleep. Did that with Xenoblade. Problem is, longer games get hard to come back to because you forget what's going on or how the game works. I haven't touched Witcher 3 yet because I need to play 1&2 first.
>>323380906
How about if you have the motivation but too exhausted to play vidya if you get home? Like, if you're a ship porter or something.
>>323359108
>Should I feel ashamed that I enjoy visual novels?
You should be ashamed for asking this and caring about what people think about your hobbies.
