Hey there.
Alright, so me and my team are currently in the early stages of development and programming for a brand new ALIENS vs PREDATOR Multiplayer game, and we're currently working on creating a playable demo to submit, as well as other things (such as a decent pitch)
Now, what I've noticed quite a bit, is that the AVP games tend to leave out what the fans want. And with the last good avp game being AVP2 (2001, Monolith), we've decided to take suggestions and inspiration from you guys. So i ask you this.
What do YOU want to see in a multiplayer FPS AvP game?
Side notes: we're currently working on character models at the moment, although being the new year, we're only just getting back to work on them, so please excuse the mess pictured. It's only a temporary banner.
Also, we are using the Unreal Engine 4 and have already completed a quarter of our test map, based on the crashed Engineer ship, which I will post below. Another thing I'd like to add, is that we're always looking for new recruits in different positions, so send an email to avpbreakpoint at gmail with some of your previous work. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I look forward to your opinions.
The current state of our test map.
>>323298642
sexy xenos
Dont make predators too op
>>323298642
It doesn't matter what you ask us. Once (And if) you get picked up the suits will make sure it's the dumbest thing you can get to get more sales
please be careful OP sega will rape your ass
Game modes similiar to Survivor and Evac from AvP2. Who said porking was dull?
Slightly interactive levels, being able to make or block a few passages, or the level progressing on its own. Maybe incorporate 10-second lockout on doors from Alien: Isolation.
Turrets! Not the OP turrets from the film, but something weaker, that is only able to hold the line for a limited amount of time before giving out, thus giving the Marine players even more butt-clenching suspense.
Welding doors, too.
>>323299315
Don't worry, we're going to be careful about this. I got someone working on a pitch to go with our demonstration, and with a lot of luck, if we get funded we could have SEGA as our publisher.
>>323299459
And then playtesters will complain about the game and you'll have to dumb it down. Enjoy the modern gaming industry, pal
>>323299380
We're already putting those in!
We're thinking about having disposable sentries that can be 3D printed, but do not refill ammunition, and are somewhat flimsy. Still a working progress. Doors WILL be weldable, and depending on your species or class, you might even be able to cut the power...
Evac and Survivor will also be returning.
>>323299546
>>323299459
SEGA greenlit Isolation, there might be hope after all.
We're also looking at creating a few new xenomorph species too.
>>323300915
female body with tits and ass and xeno head
>>323298642
>What do YOU want to see in a multiplayer FPS AvP game?
AvP2 remastered with additional balancing for various classes
Why no SP though? Shit was cash
>>323298642
>What do *I* want to see in a multiplayer FPS AvP game
A single player mess around mode.
THen again I completely missed the other games and could never really get into them so feel free to completely ignore me for the sake of people who enjoy the type of game you are after.
>>323298642
I hope you fags don't plan to make this multiplat.
Because that's what kills good PC FPS, that's what killed AvP 2010.
FPS are not supposed to be playable with controllers, trying to make them that way waters them down.
>>323301108
We're considering single player.
are you doing the whole xeno lifecycle? that shit was cash
>>323302536
Planning on having that as a option for multiplayer matches.
>>323302325
don't consider it, make it happen. Single Player FPS and even coop is dying.
Hell, I'd like a coop mode like AvP 2000 did with swarms of aliens attacking you as marines. Though it didn't have any difficulty progression after a couple of waves.
Better maps for multi (including coop). weapon pick ups should be destroyable as well as light sources. Alien controls in AvP 2 were perfect with RMB tail and headbite headshot
Sound design's gotta be top notch. The first thing people are going to do to see if this shit is worth their time is pop off some rounds in the rifle to make sure it sounds the same.
If you're gonna have the stealth kill shit from AvP 2010, don't have it fucking kill as soon as the shit starts. Give people a chance to be freed by their buddies.
Have some unique modes too. We've seen Team Deathmatch dozens of times. You have 3 unique races that can each be following their own objectives at any given time and can set up the teams in numerous ways for different modes. Have shit like 1 Yuatja and Marines are working together and the Xenos have to drop a facehugger on that Yuatja as their objective, so the predator has to balance between running like a bitch and letting his marine buddies clear house.
Oh, and large amounts of players. None of the 12 player shit that 2010 had.
>>323303674
>>323298642
Dying light MP has a decent mechanic, ish.
Your main attack is insta kill but it is heaps easy to negate it. Especially if you have team mates with you.
Aliens should flail off at a burst of gunfire but the acid blood should fuck up something REALLY bad.
No idea how you would solve that. Insta death or no insta death. Can't really get a balance as far as I can tell.
>>323303674
>>323304054
Meant for >>323302975
>>323304054
Perhaps insta-deaths all around?
Thats how the movies are.
>>323298642
no lightning guns no snipers
>>323298642
I liked the dual pistols you could get AP ammo on in the expansion. Those were a blast.
>>323304054
>>323304202
insta death is stupid game-wise. stop trying to base it on the movies since games are not movies.
try adding a maiming effect on melee attacks instead of making it OHKO. So that once you get close, escape is almost zero unless you have great teamwork.
I'd focus more on predators when it comes to balancing issues since they do too much compared to the humans that can be easily balanced because of their classes.
>>323302325
dont "consider" it
do it, MP can eventually die out
SP is forever
>>323304830
I have to disagree with this.
If you have good enough multiplayer in your game, it offers way more replayability than a good single player campaign.
People will keep coming back to play matches with their friends, and it keeps the game being talked about.
>>323298642
What I really want is a decent length campaign that utilizes the best of the Predators arsenal and the Aliens sense of survival. Oh and yes, colonial marines. Basically... go play AvP2 and gives us something along those lines.
Just remember, no campaign...no buy.
>>323298642
I want weak as fuck marines
I want extremely large ship interiors, vents and players per match
I want aliens to be a viable stealth option and have stealth options available to them]
motion tracker
infection system
>>323298642
FUCKING CLICK!Space Station 13Im sorry, Im an ideas man :c
>>323305174
AvP Gold bro. All those difficulty levels. Then extra levels you can unlock. Hell Black Ops 3 finally did a campaign that's fun to go through multiple times and there's an extra bonus campaign. If goddamn Call of Duty can do it then there's no excuses. People like unlockables, not DLC. If your campaign s good enough people will replay it.
>>323305769
Yes, AvP Gold had a good campaign.
But I am 100% sure that I played multiplayer much more than singleplayer. Online, and all of my friends would LAN it.
>>323298642
-Add playable androids? Android campaign?--Copy the xenomorph species from Colonial Marines and those mobile games.
-Single player survivor from the 2010 game
-err...cover system for the Marine players? Something like F.3.A.R.'s cover systems, or y'know, Fallout 4's cover system
-the ability to harvest humans
-gun customization maybe?
>>323305906
Back when Gamespy was around? I remember doing that. But here's the thing. The single player on AvP Gold and AvP2 were what sold the game. You can't capture the feel of the franchise in multiplayer only. And multiplayer only does get boring. Too many games now are focusing on just multiplayer. AvP is ripe for an awesome movie-esque slow burn kinda scary and stealthy story mode campaign. Nothing was cooler than the first marine level in AvP2 where tension built up as you got farther into the complex then all of a sudden the Xeno's break out. You don't get that with people running around in multiplayer. The ideal AvP game would have both a great single player and a balanced multiplayer.
>>323306526
I can see what you mean.
AvP has such a capability for building up that tension and putting you in one of the movie scenes.
Also RIP Gamespy.
>>323298642
Cant say Im even going to act like I could give decent input while knowing so little about the project, but I think it would be cool if you people would include an alien class just called "The Alien" which is the tallest, bulkiest motherfucker from the first movie who walks upright and is an actually scary fuck that even predators have a hard time hurting
might even play into a possible leader/ hero type system where one player controls a more powerful character than the rest
>>323299696
>a working progress
guys like you are a diamond dozen
>>323306526
nigga you forgot the first mission of the marines on AvP 2000 Gold.
>everything is dark as fuck
>them movements on motion sensor
>it's just the elevator for fuck sake
>no aliens to build up tension
FPS need more singleplayer content now more than ever.
>>323306732
Fucking kill yourself. I hate all these horrible ideas in this thread that I'm not going to even bother reading them...these awful "idea men" just need to die off, they have shit tier ideas and no ways to implement them. If you wonder why so many mechanics in games don't work now a days is because people listen to these types of people
>>323309226
>op asks what would fans of the series want to see
>Cant say Im even going to act like I could give decent input while knowing so little about the project, but I think it would be cool if...
>DURR FUCKING IDEAS GUY KILL URE SELVE
are you literally retarded? I would agree with your reply if it was to literally any other poster in the thread, but I specifically even started my post off by saying I dont imagine to contribute anything of use, especially since im making a game of my own and I know loosely hamstringed "ideas" wont take anyone too far
But thats not what OP asked about is it
I didnt specify any complex mechanics, I said I want them to elevate the Alien of the first movie above the other drones and even gave a few suggestions off the top of my head how that would fit into a multiplayer only game
>>323309226
>hey guys could we get some ideas for the new avp game thanks
>sure here's an idea
>"WOW FUCKING IDEAS GUYS BE REALISTIC YOU'D NEVER MAKE IT IN REAL GAME DEVELOPMENT"
no anon, you are the retard.
Heres a concept we did for the predalien. Also, These are the confirmed Xenomorph Castes for the game so far.
Drone
Warrior
Predalien
Runner
Dynamorph (working name)
>>323312042
I like it, but I think it looks just a biiit too spikey andedgy.
I remember the predaliens actually being more smooth and rounded.
>>323312042
Do you have any more concept art for the actual xenomorph?
>>323312042
Any chance you need help with character designs? Im still fairly garbage with anything digital and I currently cant do any of that all because of my pc situation, but I can draw designs physically if thats fine
pic related is something ive done for my own game, unfinished and blurry, but gives you an idea
>>323313296
Of course! Join the Project Embryo facebook group.
>>323313190
Of course! These are only concept sketches, mind you.
I'm sceptical.
Runner burster design.
>>323313957
Nice to meet you sceptical, I'm a piece of concept art
>>323312042
Too spikey
I have a few questions for mr game dev, just pure curiousity
How many people are there on your team and how did you start with the project?
Also, estimated release date?
on-topic tho as far as contributing goes; I second the anon that put emphasis on the sound desing. Same thing about general atmosphere of the game. I've found that even with MP only games the atmosphere is one of the biggest factors about deciding will I keep playing the game or not.
I think that respawn times should be different for each race. Maybe not holding you back from entering the game while you wait, but making you play as a facehugger or something like that for each race.
Based on the above, Predators should have long respawn times but should be very strong compared to the other two races. Aliens should have medium respawn times and focus on stealth, while humans should have short respawn times, but should be very weak (strength in numbers).
>>323317020
Originally started the project as a simple fan game, and over time, we became more serious about this and ended up wanting to make this a full fledged game. We started the project back in June, but no proper progress happened until November.
>>323317020
No release date yet, but just as a placeholder, let's say October 2017.
>>323317546
I wish you best of luck, sincerely. I'm a bit sad this thread isn't receveing more attention since there are little Alien games and even less good ones.
I'm looking forward to it!
You should really get a tripcode, OP.
Any horde mode?
>>323298642
Why not work on something original instead?
>>323298642
Just make it a not dead Tremulous clone pleaseP L E A S E
>>323298642
There's one thing, just one thing I'd want: Make Dutch playable. Doesn't matter if it's him teleported to the future, or if it's a mode where you only have handmade jungle weaponry and traps or even if you borrow from the 16 bit games and make cyborg Dutch. Just let us play as Arnie
>>323320063
Horde modes are fun. Especially ones with optional gear loadouts and classes and building and stuff.
>>323321967
This would be cool.
Uhm. Ever heard of C&D letters?
Doesn't matter if you make an awesome game. You simply don't know how IP control works. They won't give a shit unless you buy a license.
Naive young people.
>>323321358
NO-ONE was interested in my last projects, which would've been an RPG set in the 50s,
>>323306732
AvP 2 had a class like this. It was pretty much a mini Queen that could take a ton of damage and deal out plenty. It just couldn't wall climb but for the most part the other aliens would just use it as a distraction and sneak around while everyone focused on it.
>>323312042
I really like what Red Orchestra 2 did with classes, where only a few people could be the really good ones and most were grunts. Having 3 or 4 Predaliens running around would be kinda lame, but a bunch of drones and one big motherfucker would be pretty cool.
>>323298642
Please do the alien the way it was done in isolation, my biggest gripe with the most recent AVP was that all the aliens fucking crawled 1 foot off the floor, crawl on walls etc... but sprint down corridors
>>323312042
Dynamorph? Elaborate...
>>323324984
This and
>>323322537
This
>>323324131
Too bad. Really, thinking you can make a hackjob fangame of a high profile franchise with intention of selling it, even as far as to think Sega will fund you speaks volumes of your arrogance.
>>323298642
AvP2 alien controls
