You have 10 seconds to explain why you haven't gotten gud at fighting games.
i don't play them
>>323269136
By the time I have gotten gud it is no longer fun
Because the only fighting games with good online are dead as fuck and I don't play local because I'm an antisocial recluse.
I rarely get together with my fightan friend and when I do we like to play other things as well.
>>323269638
Are you me?
>love fighting games and want to get good at them
>friends also play fightan but it's rare and we play other things like Tabletop
>no local scene
>Smash everywhere
>only recourse is online but my Internet is shit
It hurts.
>>323269136
Because I don't care about getting gud. I just play it for the girls. I don't play online or anything. Just arcade/story on easiest.
>>323269136
I'm in the process, senpai. My internet connection is shit right now so it is a little tough.
>>323269136
>tfw try to get my friends into fighting games
>tfw they get their ass beat and want to quit instead of getting good
I-I just want someone to play with.
>>323269136
Dude. Like, I understand the inputs and stuff, and I'm using Skullgirls to help me understand traditional fighting games, but holy fuck the moment I go online, I get wrecked.
It's just too hard for me. I'll go back to my party game.
>>323270173
>Skullgirls
>traditional
I cando a comboinskullgirls
>>323269956
>>323270050
Reminder to use ethernet and only ethernet.
>>323269136
because the fighting games I care about are not big enough to get competitive in.
Soul Caliber and Tekken
I've been playing SF/GG mainly and FGs for 9 years coming up senpai. I only feel like i'm a decent player at my best which i always try to be but can feel mediocre as fuck sometimes.
FGs are a rough mistress but GG is the roughest i've ever played. There is so much you can do and no match has a optimal approach most of the time. You have to innovate , spend meter properly and pull shit right out of your ass when you really need it well landing hard space based conversions.
Fucking love fighters especially GG doe. Its easily been a great replacement for shooters that i'm sad are shit as fuck nowadays. I wish Unreal Tournament was still alive and kicking. Hopefully by the time i rejoin the Master Race UT4 will be up and kicking fully.
>>323270218
When I mean traditional, I mean that 2D restrictive movement plane.
I honestly would probably be better at Street Fighter, but not much.
>>323270291
I would if I could. My living arraignment makes wifi necessary.
>>323270295
Where do you live? Tekken has a big ass fucking scene. Its just far more segregated from Capcuck scenes and its own thing.
But I am good at fighting games. 1v1 me.
>>323270356
Give SFV a shot. If you have your inputs down and have a basic grasp of fundamentals, you'll be leagues above the new playerbase.
>>323270436
>FGs
>1v1 me
wut
>>323270502
He just doesn't want to play 2v2 SFxT
>>323270414
Maryland, east coast.
How about Soul Calibur?
>>323270559
Is it normal that i only know how to properly play SFxT? I cannot get into normal street fighter the way I can in SFxT.
inputs are difficult, otherwise I'd pick up that shit in a heartbeat, anon
>2d fighter
Yes
>3d fighter
Hell no
>>323269136
they get repetitive as fuck
no ragdolls does that to games
>>323270690
SFxT is fun, and a lot of the fundamentals in that game should transfer over to other games.
>>323270716
All it takes is a bit of practice to learn inputs. If that's too much work, the genre probably isn't for you.
social anxiety
i went to two gatherings before and while i played some games it was pretty uncomfortable
probably gud by /v/ standards though (gud to me is top 32 in a 128+ bracket)
>>323270808
>Repetitive
>Fighting games
Keep using that word. Almost no match will ever be exactly the same. And any match in mid level or upper play will be extremely different with two plays constantly adapting and pulling out new mixups/reads.
I'm fine with "Its not my cup of tea or i hate it because XXX subjective thing" but repetitive? Nah
Alright since we're having one of those threads let me start: I can't get gud for the life of me. Granted my forte is in the souls games and racing, but I still really like fighting games. I have trouble getting the combos to happen. I don't know if it's my reaction time or my controller but every time I input what they want for a combo it never connects/ happens. What's my problem and how do I fix it? Should I start out with an easier fighting game and work my way up?
I have very little patience.
I might try to git gud at KI.
>>323269136
I play every character instead of maining, making me only decent with everyone instead of awesome with one or two
>>323270971
it's repetitive because there's only one thing to do
fight
>>323270928
I have the opposite problem. When i play people online i get anxious and moody as fuck and i still try to control it better nowadays. I dunno why i do it if i subconsciously feel like i can or something.
Offline i'm fine maybe also because offline people are almost always chill and it feels like there is more then the game. You do your best in a offline environment which is your maximum and then afterwards you go out with some of the bros and get a bite.
>>323270716
Me too I just can't seem to connect a spinning bird kick from hazanshu...it makes me feel like shit...
>>323269136
I dont have autism and Im not black.
>>323269136
I'm really good at smash bros so...
>>323270885
I'll try then, anon.
What game is good to start on?
>ask friends to play fighting games with me
>they all say no because theyre bad
>im not even good at all
>ask them to play fighting games I don't know how to play like third strike, MvC1, darkstalkers
>still no
>one friend will only play persona ultimax
>I don't like playing it because blocking is wonky as fuck
>he isn't even good and wont play online because he gets raped on there
>refuses to touch anything I remotely know how to play
I'm sick of this shit /v/
>>323271001
Don't start with SF4. The input buffer isn't as heavy as other games, which means it's harder to link moves. Try something like UMvC3 or KI.
>>323271172
This desu senpai
>>323271001
>Forte in Souls games
Why do people act like Souls games are competitive? And no its just no PVP people always say this shit like the bosses are notable overall. Its like saying my forte was in Ninja Gaiden which i play the shit out of.
>>323271120
I mean you'd have to lump both platformers and shooters into that category too.
>>323269136
I check archives for /v/ everyday
If you make this thread, I dont play fighting games for a day.
So you can understand why I'm bad
>>323271120
>this genre is boring because it sticks to it's genre
FPS are boring because there's only one thing to do: shoot.
>>323271001
>Granted my forte is in the souls games
anyone up for melty
>>323271172
>I don't have autism
Rico Suave and Gustavo don't either neither does LI Joe
>I'm not black
And apply the above
I love how Capcuck only shitter who blow shit think there are no good whites in the FGC. Look at all the best non Ryan Hart/Luffy Europe players look at Gagapa Valmaster etc
Look at the GG community and how a white man got top 8 at Evo among the best Jap gods taking out the best I-no/FAB.
Excuses are all white people have when it comes to fighting games and usually all games but shooters in general. Its sad that we have made so many advancements but faggots like you can't git gud.
>>323271217
You honestly should probably wait for SFV. Links have a 3f input buffer, so combos are super easy.
A large portion of the playerbase will also be fairly new, so there will be lots of people to fight that are around/below your level.
I'd recommend starting out with Ryu or Chun to learn the basics.
Because I'm too busy gitting gud at shmups
>>323271282
>>323271341
I was trying to make a point that what I'm good at is so different from what I want to be good at, which is why I suck and I can only perform max 3 hit combo in ANY fighting game.
Because I'm pretty casual.
>>323269136
Because of command inputs.
>>323271474
Autism.
>>323271270
I heard KI is a lot simpler in terms of mechanics. What about KoF? I tried that and the inputs were very very simple. Much simpler than SF4. But I still sucked at that! Is it the same thing with SF4?
>>323271831
The hell does that mean anymore?
>>323271675
What game are you playing?
What combo are you trying to do?
Are you trying to do those long combos? If so, then it's better to practice small combos.
The most important thing to learn however, is fundamentals. It'seems good to learn combos but similar to Souls games, you can't go charging in like a retard.
>>323271831
How to tell you've won an argument
>>323272642
Meant "it's good to learn combos"
I should sleep more.
>>323269136
Because I like them but not enough to warrant the time investment needed to reach a competitive level.
>>323269136
I honestly don't know. I have thousands and thousands of hours of play, traveled all over the world, studied under the grand masters, even won a tournament or two and I still lose to Ken scrubs online.
>>323271850
I'm a competitive level KoF player and I would say KoF13 at least is easier executionally than SF4 despite what many people think. There's a lot of things in the game that make everything a lot easier than it first appears.
That said, it probably has the most complicated neutral/fundamentals and so the first hurdle of getting to a 'competent' level is much harder than other games, but once you're past that it's easier.
Luckily, there's a very good video that covers KoF fundamentals that puts all other FG tutorials i've seen to shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3KVgI1LvU
Tried a little bit of usf4 but I'm terrible. Only got close to winning a single round in 15 matches played. And that was after spending a few hours in training mode.
FGG told me to start with shit like ryu but I wanted to practice characters I was actually interested in like Viper and Decapre. Then I finally caved, tried ryu, and got smashed anyway.
>>323272756
You may be joking but this shit happens
>>323272681
When someone replies with a strawman.
>>323272642
I'm on USF4 and KoF 13 right now. I'm thinking of picking up KI or mortal kombat too. Actually I can't even manage the small combos. I've found out what I have a problem with: connecting. It's really difficult for me to actually connect the moves one after another. I can input everything fine but when they ask me to go light punch, crouch light punch, then flash kick is my problem. I've heard about charging moves but it seems like I have to charge for 3 seconds to actually perform the move and that ruins my beat.
I can't think of a better thread to ask right now, so here I go: in SF4, how do I punish a blocked Ryu tatsu as Ryu?
I would probably know if I had an idea of what the fucking move is useful for, other than HKing out of corners, so some tips about that would be nice too.
>>323273040
These things take time, I would advise against playing characters you don't enjoy though.
The slightly awkward thing about those characters is they are set play also known asfraudulenceoriented characters so you might be slower to learn the essentials
I'd advise looking up tutorials and taking special note of what normals you use in what situation and what is each is for, focus less on special moves until you are comfortable with everything else. That said, you will sadly like not win until you are comfortable with both. Everyone goes through the start where they are terrible, you just have to stick with it. A nice way to do it is having a friend who learns with you so you have someone your level to play with in low pressure circumstances.
>>323272479
>make a simple post about the stereotype of the fighting game community
>someone spergs out about it
Its not that hard too understand anon.
>>323270030
Get that shit art out of here
Bad internet connection.
No local scene, don't care about playing video games with strangers enough to travel 4+h to where people actually play.
>>323272819
Oh this is amazing, Thanks! Oh. When I get into a new fighting game I like to pick a character (usually it's the fastest one) and just test them out for awhile. On KoF my top one to experiment with is king. After her comes ash and then NESTS style kyo. What other characters would you recommend?
I have and I'm good at it
>>323269136
Friends don't play them and I use a controller.
I play Honda
Because all my friends are absolute garbage at fighters. I have managed to get OK at them though.
They do not interest me and I find 1v1 online whatever the game is dull, it's roflstomp from either side or very rarely equal.
Not to mention they get stale after a while when everyone is sucked into meta and only uses that character.
>>323269136
I'm not very competitive so I find them quite boring. Especially since it has no teamwork aspect.
I do like the occasional singe-player fighting game. But they get boring pretty fast. Apart from Soul Calibur 2.
>>323273386
What character do you play?
>>323273040
Expecting to instantly win online in a game that has been out for seven years is quite something.
Who do you think you are?
Realize that these games have tons of depth to them and people who understand them WILL shit on you.
And you dont necessarily have to pick Ryu, but the two characters you decided to play are really awful for beginners (and generally for faggot niggers).
Guile, Balrog,Bison, Fei Long, Rose and Ken are good picks for starters.
What that other guy said is right. Learn what purpose your moves have. You will need to know what a good poke is, what your go to anti air is, your overheads and all that.
Also gotta learn what your specials are for. They arent all there to throw out willy nilly. Many have big downsides to them and will get your ass punished if you use them randomly.
Not enough dedication, though I'd never be able to anyway.
>>323273821
Ryu
>>323273386
Most tatsus are safe on block.
If you can try to react to them and crouch block.
Then you can crouching hardpunch their nuts while they are flying above you.
Can do the same against Kens tatsu ultra.
>>323271850
KI has some more simplistic mechanics but some of the characters and mechanics for characters are borderline impossible to learn for anyone. I still have not seen a SINGLE person who knows how the fuck Aria works at all. It does benefit from having an incredibly good tutorial even if it is only for one character at the moment.
I work for a living.
>>323274018
Yikes. So KI is a no go then, well what about mortal kombat or injustice. They're old but I'm willing to learn them. Also for the aria thing, I might get crucified for this but: what about Maximilian dood? I've seen his KI videos with aria and he played pretty well with her imo.
>>323273620
King and NESTS Kyo are fairly straightforward characters with easy execution and are played usually first, but sometimes second. Ash can be played as an anchor but he along with Elizabeth is extremely difficult executionally and I'd really advise against playing him when starting.
Since you like two characters that are good for beginners and go first or second, you'd be best looking at a third for an anchor. There's actually very few 'viable' anchors in KoF13, you need someone who can do huge damage to seal a game in a touch but who also doesn't take risks to do so, as the other player at that point can often end the game in a touch too.
The main viable thirds you'll see are Vice, Iori, Shen, Kim, though some people have success with slightly unconventional ones like Ash, Daimon, Chin. None of them are that hard except Ash and Daimon, I'd say any are fine to learn. Chin and Vice approach braindead territory.
If you want good characters for beginners and don't care that much about how good they are (You can always change later if you feel the need) then honestly the vast majority of the cast are fine, but Terry, Iori, Ryo, Robert, Clark, Kim, Chin, Vice, Mature, King, NESTS Kyo are all pretty easy to pick up.
If you have any questions about what combos to learn just ask, I can probably give you a list of 'proper' combos for most of these characters, though there's one or two I might not. Don't bother with trial combos, they are made to be hard and are both not efficient and harder than they need to be.
>>323273367
Buffer the flash kick motion during the combo. By the time the flash kick part comes, it should come out.
You can also try buffering from a dash or jump in.
>>323273921
His HK and MK Tatsu are -2 on block, so you're going to have to crouch it.
The simple answers are c.hp and c.hk. c.hp will probably be the easier of the two punishes because it's out (active) for longer, but c.hk gives a hard knockdown and a safe jump for you.
You can also DP or ultra it if you're fast enough, but I'd probably stick to the first two options until you're confident.
>>323269136
Because I play for fun :^)
No but seriously, I like some of them but I play so rarely that it's just better for me to learn some basic shit and enjoy the game that way. I don't mind losing often.I'm still better than all of my friends and thats why they wont play any fighters with me ;_;
>>323274085
Well, I guess OP didn't say the reason had to make sense.
>>323269136
I have. I've made like 500$ playing Xrd this year.
>>323274238
KIs fine as a first game if you just keep to mainly the S1 cast. Jago is as easy as they fucking come. It's just the S2 characters that are really complex.
>>323269136
But I'm actually the best SF4 player on 4chan, OP.
not kidding, challenge me on PC
Because I have better things to do than sink thousands of hours into a fighting game.
>tfw wakeup ultra'd
because no one plays melty blood
>>323269136
Fighting games are shit and a meme.
No one actually likes them.
>>323274554
No you don't who do you think you're kidding
>>323274250
Something I've tried for quite awhile: when I use guile I try to do that buffering thing. As I'm falling after a jump I hold down and *try* to perform a flash kick the instant I touch ground. I mean with everything I've read about buffering I'm thinking it should work, but it doesn't. Have you done this/ is it possible?
>>323274554
>Because I have better things to do
>browses /v/
No you don't
>>323269136
1. I work 10-11 hours a day and spend another 2-3 hours on commutes to and from work. So I don't have time to practice playing fighting games.
2. And even if I did have enough time to practice playing fighting games, like on weekends and on holidays, I still can't get good because I don't have good Internet, nor is there a good local offline scene anywhere near me.
So as a result, I spend more time becoming a streamboar and learning combos in training mode without any good chance to practice them in real settings against another player.
I wish I had the time and the place to play fighting games with other players, but I'm a wage slave who needs money to put food on his table and to pay his monthly electrical, rent, etc bills.
>>323274247
The max cancel thing. I've only accidentally performed them. What's the purpose it just looks like a feint to me.
>>323274576
Yeah, people prefer team based games because you can just blame others for being shit
>>323270030
>shadman
why are you doing this
>>323274723
Max cancel just means you cancelled a super to your neomax while in HD mode, it doesn't actually do anything special. It being a feint is probably just you missing the neomax, all that happened was you cancelled into it. If you want to test it go NESTS Kyo, turn HD mode on, do qcfx2 punch and then on one of the hits do qcfx2 both kicks and you'll do a max cancel.
Basically while you're in HD mode (Which is basically used only for combos) certain supers will cancel into the neomax and when it does it says MAX CANCEL on the screen, but that's it. If you do a neomax move on its own or as a cancel from anything except a super you don't get max cancel but otherwise it's the same.
>>323269136
I can't figure out how to put in diagonal inputs reliably
I can't grasp them, I've sunk tons of time and I still don't get it. I also still have trouble doing moves from opposite sides when in a fight as well. The only game I would say I somewhat understood was UNIEL but that is dead as fuck and could never try out my combos with others.
>>323274606
Yeah, I have done simple Guile combos like the one you're trying. You should start buffering as soon as you jump.
Also, you should always buffer or charge diagonally behind you instead of just back or down. Charging diagonally buffers both Sonic Boom and Flash Kick.
Because every venture online is met with either 1 of two things, a first strike to complete health bar draining combo loop that someone either macroed or spent far too long just to perfect for useage in every matches start
Or two you land the first hit, and play every opening never allowing for that never ending chain to land and scrape past a win for yourself. Only to get messaged about getting good, fixing bad connection, attack spamming (zoning is now spam?) And more salt
It takes too much work to actually reach a high level. In order to reach a high level you almost have to treat the game like a job, grinding out matches, figuring out when or when not to hit buttons, figuring out what is or isn't punishable, etc.
I thought I could do it at first, but along the line I realized I didn't have the drive to do all of that, especially when there are other games I want to play.
>>323275039
Play better games, that sounds like fraudulent anime/marvel shit
>>323275158
Locals make that easier, it makes it more just meeting up with your friends every week instead of a job
not interested
>>323269136
i don't play online, i only do story mode and arcade mode :^)
I"ve literally just meat the only other person that actually plays KoF 2 days ago. Even then I mainly play 2002 UM, while he plays XIII,
>>323274692
where do you live that you have to work that often damn, move somewhere cheaper.
If you live in a shit country then disregard this advice, I pity you.
>>323275337
XIII at the very least used to have a decent online community, but the way it worked was people just added each other to friends when they had some good games and played that way.
What I used to do (this was about a year ago mind you) when I played online a lot in KoF13 was I'd make an online lobby and practice in training until someone joined. Usually took about 10 minutes. Sadly a lot of the players there just abuse the online environment though, so it's not a lot of fun often.
2002UM I'm sure is much more dead though, though I've found people on that on occasion. Just add people you like playing, most people will accept and you can ask them to play later.
Alternatively play 2002 and 98 vanilla on fightcade which always has shit tons of people to play.
>>323269136
My reaction time is awful, and my judgement is bad most times. I don't have the time nor the will to sit down and improve my fighting game skills anymore. I do miss them, though.
>>323269136
I don't know how
If I had friends, friends I could go hang out with and play, I imagine I'd be more willing to practice and play
>>323275509Only one of main mains is even on vanilla 2002, and it;s K'
>>323275695
Bad luck, 2002 vanilla has a shit roster imo
I don't know, I really don't.
I've played for years, I practice, and yet I've never stopped sucking.
I can't git gud. I'm sure I could but I never feel like dedicating the hours only to get mad when I play online and get my shit pushed in.
>>323269956
this as well.
besides the fighting games that I like are dead or deemed casual by the majority of the FGC
I can memorize basic combos, but when it comes to fighting actual enemies, I panic and button mash every time.
i prefer to git gut at other genres faggot
>>323269136
Cba to hook my controller up to my PC, family.
>>323269136
Nobody to play with other than my brother and if I get too good he will stop playing with me.
>try 3rd strike for the first time
>get my shit wrecked constantly by everyone
>eventually settle on Hugo
>somehow after all this time people still fall for wakeup super 1
>others can't even into basic footsies
I may be awful at this game but come on
>>323279463
I'll play if you want. Name on fightcade?
>>323269136
I've never EVER won an online match, so I thought I was the worst player in the world.
That made me think "I might as well play the worst character then" and went for Sean when SFIII got re-released on XBLA.
Practiced with him for a bit and actually ended up doing pretty well on local VS and won a match or two online.
>>323269136
I can play more games by the time I learn the basics.
