http://gamingbolt.com/oddworld-interview-with-lorne-lanning-new-n-tasty-future-trends-and-more
>Lorne: We’re in the planning stage for Exoddus. So what had happened was, when we starting building New ‘n Tasty we fooled the audience again when they saw some indications of what we were doing. I think that was at EuroGamer 2012 that we showed it. Maybe 2013. We pulled the fan base in and we said, “Okay, and if we succeed at doing that which of these new titles would you like to see?” And they said do the same with Exoddus. And again I wouldn’t have seen that coming. We went, “okay, we can afford that, we think.” But Exoddus is twice the size of a game. Now we’re still in the planning stages to figure out how much we can get it done for. Exactly which developers we can use and who’s available. Getting bids. So we’re in that planning stage. That’s inevitably the no brainer of what we should do next.
>Internally we’re doing a couple of experiments and a few tests. Hopefully I’ll be able to talk about some stuff soon. I’m not saying it’s a big new product but maybe some interesting things. But before I talk about them I want to make sure they’re working. (laughs) Because if they don’t work then they’re just scrapped. So Exoddus is in the planning and getting ready for full green light. Beyond that what we hope to do is learn a lot more about what’s going on with the new consoles. I mean everything from magically and more fierce and VR and AR as well. And really dabble in there and figuring out some of our ideas with it. In the mean time Exoddus is going to keep us busy. We hope to get that out as quickly as possible. But like I said it’s still in planning stages and hasn’t been officially greenlit yet. But we hope to have that news soon. We still have some things to figure out.
>>323216421
Exoddus is literally my favorite video game. I hope they don't fuck it up.
>>323216930
Unless they seriously get their shit together, it will be another disaster like the New N Tasty was. There was this 30min long in-depth analysis video on YT that described just about everything that was wrong with the remake.
Just make a new Oddworld
Kickstart if you have to
>>323217262
This.
I want them to make fucking slig storm already.
I dont even know what the gameplay would be. I just love sligs
Which is the best Slig visor design?
>>323217083
you mean the video by matthew matosis?
>>323217262
Lorne has said he's not going through kickstarter because he probably wouldn't be able to raise the amount needed to do a brand new Oddworld game properly will all the RnD that goes into creating all the new mechanics that come with an "Oddysee" title. He also doesn't want a publisher because publishers are meddling cunts. Instead he's looking to raise the money himself.
He put the original games on Steam, then did HD ports of SW and MO. Now they're doing remakes of the Abe games. Each project is slightly bigger than the last one and is slowly working towards the scale of a brand new game.
>>323217854
two
>>323217854
Left for sure
oh yeah, after the bloom and blur-fest that New N Tasty was I was really hoping they get to work on ruining the sequel as well
People hate New N Tasty now?
Sure; the art direction didn't exactly capture the mood of the original, but it's still a solid remake of one of the greatest games of all time.
Plus it's leading us to brand new Oddworld content like >>323218009 says
They should learn what a proper remake is and not the trash they peddled out called New N Tasty.
Why hasent REmake set the standard for any remake? It was literally RE1 perfected. All we want is Oddworld with better resolution, textures, sound and quality of life changes to the gameplay.
The best thing i can say about New N Tasty is that you can talk to every mudoken at once like in Exoddus.
>>323218496
>All we want is Oddworld with better resolution, textures, sound and quality of life changes to the gameplay.
That's exactly what the game is
>>323218656
Except it isn't.
It looks like dog-shit, and the animations are god-awful.
>>323217920
The one and only
>>323218491
The art direction, sound, lighting and controls are all worse.
So another two or three years, at best. Great.
Am I the only one who doesnt like Exoddus as much as the first game?
Oddysey was charming and magical, and Abe actually rhymed making it really feel like an epic ballad being recounted.
Exoddus just didnt feel as complete
>>323219349
It looks just fine and the animation was fine. It was basically the first game. I played Odyssey and Exodus when they came out. Same games, same problems, except I guess with new and tasty you can easily save scum.
>>323219961
Glad to see I'm not the only one.
>people saying worse controls
How?
>>323218496
It wasn't that bad
>>323220274
Well... I think you had to use the joystick, and that does leave a little bit of lag time in the controls, not much, it isn't that bad really, and it doesn't always matter, but there are instances where you need to stop on a dime and it can be annoying, but it isn't enough to hurt the game or keep it from being an extremely faithful remake.
True enough, the art direction changed some, some aspects lose their very grim and gritty nature, but the game looks so much better, I think New and Tasty is just fine. Then again, back on PS oddworld, while it was popular back then, was never really my thing. I thought some-- too many-- of the puzzles were just obnoxious try and die.
>>323219961
>and the animation was fine
Are you blind?
>inb4 you accuse me of parroting that potatonigger
I haven't even watched the video.
Please don't, after new n tasty I don't trust this shit to tarnish the series even more.
Those fucking ingame ad's for indie games pissed me off.
>>323217083
>New N Tasty
>disaster
Get off your fucking high horse you retarded faggot. I played those games on my friends PS1 back when they came out and New N Tasty was EXACTLY the remake it needed to be. You're a fucking moron if you think a non-2D remake could have been executed better.
Also
>not knowing that reviewers name
>not knowing a guy who's been posted here for YEARS regularly
>not knowing anything about him but that he reviewed the remake
You fucking shitlord need to get back to Leddit and right quick. Take your shit opinions with you you fucking underage newfag.
>>323218046
Giant dead spot in the middle, bruh.
![260092[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MOKWCGJ.jpg "260092[1].jpg")
>>323218491
I know they fixed the control scheme, but did they improve the positioning problems that came from converting a grid based screen-by-screen to an ongoing sidescroller, Niles?
>>323221953
It's not an ongoing side scroller though
>>323221108
>Those fucking ingame ad's for indie games pissed me off.
Oh man, can anyone in this thread defend those?
Enough with the remakes, I just want Stranger's Wrath 2.
![Frasier_Crane_Shrink_Wrap_radio_station_KACL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ssfgOP8.jpg "Frasier_Crane_Shrink_Wrap_radio_station_KACL[1].jpg")
>>323222218
Relative to the screen-by-screen divisions in the original I mean. No loading between 2 screens, nothing to implicate the range of Sligs.
>>323221108
>It's okay when Nintendo does it
>>323222268
/v/ defended Nintendo when they did it :)
>>323223790
>>323223915
>samefagging
>>323222675
I'd rather have Fangus Klot.
>>323221528
Wow, someone's mad as fuck.
for starters, I've been certainly here way longer than you, kiddo. Never been to this leddit of yours. Excuse me if I don't know some namefags or e-celebs that I don't give a fuck about.
Finally, the New N Tasty is garbage. The gameplay is butchered with the following camera + the new, inaccurate movements. The visuals are 2nd grade and ruin the atmosphere. The cutscenes are a real downgrade, and VA is hard to hear. Plus they just had to jam in ads for their other games.
>>323226084
Nice job summarizing, Anon.
>>323226084
>for starters, I've been certainly here way longer than you, kiddo
How to spot a newfag 101
>>323226597
>le ebin memes master 101
I want cancer generation to disappear and you to gb2/Neogaf
>>323225458
That had such a cool concept.
>>323226786
>bitches about memes
>literally does ironic meme speak and telling someone to go to meme site
Oh, the ironing
>>323226926
>ironically posting memes
>>323227128
Yea, that's what you did, sonny boy
>>323217083
Link?
>>323226786
>le
Get back to reddit.
>>323227223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhDrngAQZ0
>>323227445
LEad the way, sis.
They really, really, really should have just kickstarted a new Oddworld game, rather than going this slow and convoluted route of remaking and porting the old games while pissing off a lot of old fans in the process.
>>323216421
Nobody bought the remake because it looks like shit.
>>323218496
What you are asking for is a remaster, New'n'Tasty was an actual remake.
I will never understand people who say New'n'Tasty "ruined" Abe's Oddysee, this isn't a Star Wars situation where the creator refuses to distribute the original. It's $5 on PSN, and the gave it away FREE on steam for a weekend. The original is still there and accessible to everyone.
>>323226084
>Plus they just had to jam in ads for their other games.
It's okay when Nintendo does it
>>323227501
>shilling for someone somehow disproves you were meming
Great logic there, fuckhead
I'm real tired of this guy's shit. He's had like 10 projects supposedly in the works for 10 years now and nothing has come of them because he just wants money. He threw a bitchfit back when Stranger's Wrath came out because it didn't make as much as he wanted, tried to sue EA for their cut of the profits since they published it, and then said he'd never make another game again. Then he tried to make movies and fell flat on his face, only to come crawling back to games with the promise that if New and Tasty sold 10 million he'd make a new game. And now here he is moving the goalposts again saying the same shit for Exxodus. Fuck Lorne Lanning, what a cunt.
>>323219903
Exoddus is by far the better one from a gameplay perspective because it's about twice as long, much more complex puzzles with more mechanics and fixed most of the annoyances with gameplay (you can talk to multiple Mudukons at once etc....).
But Oddysee has much better atmosphere and story.
>>323227290
This is probably the video he was talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhDrngAQZ0
shit, this >>323227501 was meant for >>323227290
>>323228237
yeah, that's right.
>>323220274
On release the controls were actually terrible.
Run wasn't a toggle anymore but depended on how far you pushed the analogue stick, and jumping was way harder than it should be.
But both were given options to return to the original controls in an update later (by the time it released on PC/Xbone it was already in the game)
What went wrong?
Was anyone else disappointed that the sligs couldn't run off screen in New n' Tasty? It let you just possess your way through situations where you shouldn't be able to
>>323227878
You don't know what happened to Strangers Wrath did you?
EA deliberately sabotaged it to try send Oddworld Inhabitants bankrupt and buy them out.
>>323228473
Lanning admitted he was too ambitious with that game and it was nowhere near the teams original vision.
Also it was rushed to be an Xbox launch title.
>>323228473
Xbox
>>323228742
That is 100% false. EA was not the bad guy in that situation, Lorne got greedy and then tried to screw them after they gave him the money he needed to make the game. He expected it to sell 50 million copies (in 2005 that was unheard of) and when it didn't he filed a lawsuit against EA basically saying he was entitled to their share since it didn't make as much as he expected. He got BTFO because that held no water.
>>323229183
Fuck off EA, you're not welcome here.
>>323228946
Yea, because Microshill had to Jew them away from Sony and abandon all the fans waiting for the game
I played through all of New n' Tasty and didn't have a problem with it. It was fine. If they made Oddysee with New n' Tasty's engine, I'd be OK with that.
I swear to god, you nostalgia fags aren't happy with anything.
Munchs Oddysee and New N Tasty completly destroyed the dark humour and dark atmosphere of Abes Oddysee and Abes Exoddus. They had the balance between slapstick humour, dark humour, and gore just right in them.
>>323227668
you can't actually get enough money to make a game with decent production values like oddworld used to have through kickstarter. You basically have to lie, overproject and delay to get enough money to make something slightly below par because the public has unrealistic expectations of what games actually take to develop.
>>323227668
/v/ would just bitch about it endlessly if it was Kickstarted.
>>323229565
It's not like the game betrays the original style or anything. Abe literally looks like a cartoon character.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aUuMr1j.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>323229183
They gave the game absolutely no marketing budget which is the thing that actually makes games sell. I was a huge fan of Oddworld since the PS1 Demo Disc 1, I bought an Xbox so I could play Munch's Oddysee and I didn't even figure out Stranger's Wrath existed until I found it rummaging through the bargain shelf at a Kmart or something. Stranger's Wrath didn't sell because EA didn't want it to sell so they could buy out Oddworld Inhabitants and destroy it like they did to so many development studios in the decade between 1995-2005.
>>323229651
False. See Divnity: Original Sin, Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, Shadowrun Returns. All great games, all great looking games (maybe not Wasteland 2 in that regard) all funded and produced successfully through kickstarter because they were handled by competent humans, not fucking hacks like Schafer.
>>323230436
haven't played divinity, but you're not seeing the difference between "great looking games" and "high production values". Lots of FMV cutscenes is one of them. Of course you can look back at Abe then and say that wouldn't cost much to produce now which is partially true, but he'd probably want to make a full 3D game with lots more high quality animation for a new oddworld game and you just aren't going to get the money to do that through kickstarter.
>>323229183
You are literally just making shit up. It's common knowledge that EA (and all the big publishers) deliberately push out games with no marketing budget, knowing full well they're going to flop because of it. They do this so it puts the developer in a place where they're pretty much forced to accept a buyout (at a price that's a fraction of what they're actually worth because this is done post-flop).
If Lorne hadn't had an independent audit of his company to prove that EA was up to some real shady shit, EA would own Oddworld right now.
>>323229183
>Actually defending EA
>>323231665
Lorne is still somewhat at fault for the shit that's happened with the company though, what with betraying an entire consumer base and jumping ship to another, entirely new system without so much as a "sorry". That might not be the entire reason for their money woes exactly, but it does show he's not entirely innocent of idiocy
>>323231845
>believing someone is 100% in the wrong 100% of the time because they're the "bad guy"
>>323232231
It's fucking EA, they're practically the poster-child of "evil corporation"
>>323232495
so? the people who work for them can be stupid as well. is your world view really that simplistic?
>>323221528
I'd rather keep him and you fuck off back to your mom's basement buttmad venting anon
>>323218132
>>323218496
>>323217083
The developers actually acknowledged the video though and said it was a good review. You can find it on Twitter, so your complaints are kind of moot considering they're clearly aware of all the faults you fags are deciding to be so fatalistic about.
>>323232695
>so?
>>323232983
so you're going to allow your outrage at an evil company being an evil company blind you from seeing the truth of the situation? that makes you an idiot
>>323233363
I hope EA are at least paying you well for this.
>>323233363
Nobody is denying that people who align with EA aren't idiots as well. But you're trying too hard to make it sound like EA has never done anything wrong.
>>323233671
>make it sound like EA has never done anything wrong
They haven't though.
>>323233893
Dungeon Keeper
>>323233893
Yes they have
>>323233671
saying someone isn't 100% in the wrong 100% of the time means I'm saying they've never done anything wrong? lol
>>323234379
Try speaking English before you talk to others, retard
>>323231884
He had to move to Xbox because at the time Sony did not give a single shit about smaller western developers. At the time Kutaragi was still in charge of Playstation and he was famously close-minded. PS2 dev kits were extremely difficult to develop for, specs were changing every month and all the technical support was in japanese. If you're a small western developer, that environment could sink you completely. Microsoft offered a brach and Lorne took it.
>>323234497
sorry I realize numbers and long sentences are difficult to understand
>>323234913
No, be sorry your grammar and punctuation are shit
>>323229646
>Munch's Oddysee
>Destroyed the dark atmosphere
Are you kidding? It was probably the darkest of the lot. It opened up with the protagonist's entire species being eaten, him getting caught in a bear trap and then bound to a chair whilst two creepy fucks prepared to slice him open.
>>323234769
They still should have made it for PS2, even if they had to branch into Xbox as well for the extra money. Abandoning all the Sony fans was just a dick move, and part of the reason Lorne and company practically fell silent for nearly 10 years
>>323217083
>I can't think for myself
>>323216421
I would be more into new original games from the oddworld universe. Abe games are cool though. I still love them.
>>323216421
Def gone pirate before I buy.
I had heard the AO remake was really good but it just felt like shit to me, a total waste of money. There wasn't even an option to change the controls back to the original ones, which are now baked into my brain.
Note before you /v/tards get all angry I'm saying that subjectively, which is a concept that is entirely lost on the autists on this board.
>>323235412
Not to mention the bad ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkn_JSvg-Co
I'm not sure who was in charge of the music and art for New n Tasty but damn they need to get the guys who worked on oddworld and exoddus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKNEntjBW-A
Also I really love this track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svGJrRKbOc4
Also I searched the artists name and this picture came up, looks like he belongs in a oddworld game.
In my opinion it seems like they are trying to make something different rather than taking inspiration from the originals.
>>323233671
>But you're trying too hard to make it sound like EA has never done anything wrong.
Your guys are doing the same for Lorne though.
>>323242158
No, I'm not. I pointed out what Lorne has done wrong. Fuck off
