>Upgrade path visibly affects weapon's appearance
>Ability to sheathe your right-hand weapon behind your back
>Mimic weapons and mimic armor that can be tamed or trap yourself at the worst possible time
Your turn
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>ability to trade upward for upgrade materials, ex. 5 titanite chunks for a slab
>>323209917
I want to get dirty like in Bloodborne. See my character covered in mud/dirt/blood/saliva/semen etc.
>>323210117
That would trivialize slabs.
Buffs that look cool please, DaS2's effects were a fucking joke.
Be able to backstab with your left-hand weapon
>DaS1
>Bow in left hand
>Holds the bow with righty grip
Okay I can assume Chosen Undead is a righty since he's retarded with any weapon on his left
>DaS2
>Bow in right hand
>Holds bow with lefty grip
>Bow in left hand
>Holds bow with righty grip
FUCKING
>>323209917
Visible clothing and armor damage.
>>323209917
I want the game surprised me with its awesomeness as DeS once.
>>323210225
Not if you require a fuckton of chunks, say 20. At the very least I want the rest of them to be uptradeable.
I want respec back.
Respec in DS2 was fucking sweet, it let me play as two different classes throughout the game, which was a very welcome concept, as I hate replaying games.
Please god let it be at least as fun as bloodborne
>>323210491
I only hated replaying DaS2 because the game fucking sucked. I loved replaying Bloodborne from start to finish multiple times.
>>323210491
I also want respecing back, but maybe once per NG cycle or something. Rarer than in 2 would be better imo.
Fighting bosses again without having to replay the whole story.
>>323210491
fuck no
More weapons other than swords.
>>323210225
DaS2 already trivialized slabs.
Not only are they farmable from infinitely re-spawning mobs, you get like 8 of them through a playthrough.
Making slabs rare is stupid, because it discourages experimentation
>>323210862
You're crazy. I bet making a new character because you fucked up a build is the entire reason you have many hours in other Souls games.
>>323210491
>>323210616
I hate Soul Vessels, but I can't think of a good reason for them not to let you respec going into NG+
>>323211247
>Making slabs rare is stupid, because it discourages experimentation
No it doesn't, that's retarded. It encourages you to experiment with multiple different weapons and then choose one or two to advance to max strength. Limiting the player to one +10 weapon and a potential shitload of +9 weapons doesn't discourage experimentation. It's a difference of 20 damage nine times out of ten.
>>323211247
Maybe experiment before the end of the game when you actually go to +10? Limiting upgrade materials forces you to make decisions with them.
>>323210491
Thank god the retarded shit in DaS2 didn't make it in.
>>323209917
>Upgrade path visibly affects weapon's appearance
OMG PLEASE, kind of Dark Cloud mechanic. Imagine a fucking Claymore max level with different appearance.
>>323210121
This. Another thing Id love to see is regular items being much more useful like the pebble in BB. Its just a rock that you chuck but Its amazing at drawing in enemies one by one. Another thing is item scaling. The fucking pebble scales with strength and it makes sense
>>323211247
Slabs didn't add *that* much to the power of your weapon. If you still arent sure about your weapon at +14/+9/+4 you should probably use something else.
>>323211667
>make decisions
Like looking it up instead of wasting time experimenting
>>323212187
...looking what up?
>>323212187
Faggot. You don't have to look up shit when the stats are displayed right in front of you.
Co-op players shouldn't leave until a few moments after the boss fight.
They should also appears and possibly interact during the few cinematics if they're here
>>323209917
>behind your back
ew
Ability to customize armor colors. Like changing the Elite Knights blue trim to other colors. Also changing the plate colors from silver to other metal colors would be cool.
>>323210491
>>323211675
literally confirmed tto be back in by miyazaki guys
I want everything DaS2 did right and none of what Bloodborne did wrong.
>upgrade materials
6 shards, 6 large shards, 6 chunks, 1 slab.
Common throughout the game and placed in a way to make you progress through everything.
Possible to get a +9/10 weapon quite early, and the game doesn't collapse for it.
Contrast
16 shards, 16 twin shards, 16 chunks, 1 rock
Rare throughout the game and mostly placed in one area for each type, meaning every playthrough is the same.
Can't get a +7 weapon before killing Rom.
>invasion mechanics
Can invade anyone, anywhere, regardless of state, and sinners have a much shorter invasion cooldown time.
Contrast
Can't invade anyone without co-op phantoms summoned (mandates twinking) or a bell maiden (doesnt respawn, only present in two areas).
>pvp
Defense, weapons, builds are all balanced. Even the less viable weapons are still viable. High offense builds are squishy.
Healing is slow enough that it can be dealt with.
Contrast
You die in two hits from fast weapons that have grinded 27.2%s or god help you, better, and you'd better have grinded them yourself.
Healing is fast and effective that you must parry it, or spend a 20 minute long retard fight exhausting vials. Hope you're a SKL build not using a 2h weapon!
>>323214256
>Can't get a +7 weapon before killing Rom.
Except that's wrong.
>>323214256
>Defense, weapons, builds are all balanced. Even the less viable weapons are still viable. High offense builds are squishy.
how exactly would they do that? What you think they have a "balance pvp" button?
>>323214831
All of the top bits were present in Dark Souls 2.
>>323214434
DLC doesn't count. Chalices don't count.
>>323214256
>i want the pve to be shit
>>323215163
Still wrong.
>>323215163
Still wrong m8.
>>323215216
>i want to be barely able to upgrade one weapon per playthrough
>>323215163
>All of the top bits were present in Dark Souls 2.
fucking what?? Nigga do you even play ds2? even with all the patches there are weapons/builds that are very much less viable than others. Also
>DLC doesn't count. Chalices don't count.
why the fuck not?? lmao
>>323215447
Yes, I do.
I hope they bring back respeccing.
Locking into a build when you don't know if there are any decent weapons for it is stupid, and I don't want to use a guide.
>>323215163
you can get chunks from cainhurst, which you can do before shadows
>>323215495
Try to read the post.
Flynn builds are squishy, shit like lances and greataxes can still stomp straight swords, and the like.
Dark Souls 2 is the most balanced game in the Souls series, and by a gigantic margin, even if the balancing came by nerfing "fun" batshit overpowered things like powerstanced ultra greatswords.
>>323215447
Yes please.
I want the dueling arena from Dark Souls 1's DLC to be in the game and easily accessible within one hour of the game.
Enemies that arent boring and obnoxious to fight.
>>323215790
I feel like if I tell you every thing that's wrong with your post you'll just damage control to all hell
>>323209917
I'd like for the bonfire resting animation to have more variation.
For example:
Having the character look around occasionaly, raise his hand to the fire to warm himself, look at the phantoms around him, maybe inspect his weapon a little or look into a bag or something.
>>323214256
WAAAAA I CANT GET A HIGH TIER WEAPON HALFWAY INTO THE GAME
>>323215587
>>323215852
Did you also like grinding stones in Demon's Souls, grinding chunks eternally in Dark Souls, grinding petrified bones pre-patched in Dark Souls 2?
Every playthrough?
>DaS2
>oh man yeah I can upgrade any weapon I want with these extras
>BB
>oh man cool new weapon time to hit up the fucking chalices and pwmf2ggu for two hours for enough chunks
>>323215992
It's alright buddy, don't even try, I have to leave anyway.
>>323216073
On the topic of bonfires, I would like the respawning animation to be the PC crawling out of the bonfire in a shower of sparks and ash.
>>323216314
I never grinded in any souls game and completed them twice
More easy to follow plot/more plot. Tired of all this lore hunting for little things
>>323216314
No, I just don't upgrade multiple weapons to +10 every playthrough.
>>323216314
>being a retard and wasting your chunks and rocks
>>323209917
I want sheathed weapons to have a sheath. I hate seeing just a floating sword on your hip with nothing holding it there.
It's not useless but I want climbing to make a comeback.
I know this will never happen unless we get a DeS sequel though.
Are scabbards and sheathes confirmed to be back? I remember seeing them in those early screenshots but if my memory serves me they were absent in the network test.
>>323210121
This. Covered in blood and stuff bloodborne style.
Also... better looking characters. I want to make cute characters!
>>323216695
They're not coming back.
No fucking red/white glow for invaders and ghosts.
no one likes that shit but for some reason is back in ds3.
>>323210730
An arena of lost souls maybe?
>>323216695
For god's sake if that mechanic comes back it better be done with a prompt rather than holding forward. I got myself killed at least 5 times when I first started DS because I didn't know which ledges could be climbed or not and accidentally flung myself off into a group of enemies.
>>323216876
It was okay in Dark Souls and Demons Souls, but it turned into cartoon trash in DaS2.
>>323216314
That's what i just fucking said.
I like to have few chunks per playthrough because i like to devote myself to one weapon and master it.
I like the idea of everyone choosing a different weapon and mastering it instead of "oh this weapon is op i will use it" mentality that multiple chunks per playthrough result in.
>>323216876
I like it. But there are better ways to do it, maybe having and invader covered in smoldering ash and summons being bathed in heavenly light.
>got about 300 hours played in das before the expansion
>didn't buy the expansion
>didn't even beat das2
I don't know what I want, maybe just a good video game
>>323209917
no durability
no poise
no weight limits
no coop unfriendly levels
less bonfires more shortcuts
no soul memory
no ganking
no useless or far inferior weapons (skins)
no 360 noscope headshot enemy archers or
no overall 360 turning bullshit
more damage for slower weapons
less damage for smaller faster weapons
no clearly op L2 buffs or special attacks (mace looks underwhelming)
no useles rings
armor which gives you buffs/debuffs (let armor have a purpose)
region hard and soft locks
player count for the zones you are able to coop in
NO FUCKING BULLSHIT ala ds1 2 half or ds2 lava in the skies
>>323216476
But thats the charm of this game
>>323216832
>>323216695
Yes they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alU-EC5FEjo
>>323217393
I get it and i'm not saying I want it to be a AAA walk and talk shit show. Just saying a little more plot and make it clear. So when you beat the game your not just like "huh"
>>323217363
>no poise
Get the fudge outta here.
>>323217542
I agree with you, when I beat Dark Souls 1 I didn't understand what the fuck had just happened.
I want toggle-able armor aesthetics, so there can be armor without mandatory capes, or a single helmet instead of two different helmets that are only different by their visor position.
>>323210225
Who honestly cares? Pure/Slabs are obnoxiously annoying to find for the meager stat increases they give you.
>>323217542
This only happens with DaS2.
>>323217684
have fun fighting anything you cant stagger with the first hit ala
let me just w8 10 minutes when you finish your attack so i can hit you one time and w8 another 10 minutes
ds2 is terrible at that but ds1 sucks major dick in that regard too
(im staying here)
I want it to be the last of the series and have them move to new game with a new story line and better technology/mechanics. DaS is great, but they should move on while they are ahead stop before the well dries.
>>323217542
It was pretty clear in the first DaS you either light the fire because you think it will end the curse, or you don't because you believe in the whole "age of man" thing.
In DaS2 I still have no idea why I sat on the throne.
>>323210491
>mfw all the pvpbabies will respec every time a youtuber creates a new build instead of replaying the game like a motivated fuck
>>323217686
I had a very loose understanding of what was going but if you asked me to go into more detail then that I couldn't. It's funny, Demons Souls was a lot better with this stuff, knew what was going on, why it was going on, and who I wanted to kill.
>>323217775
DaS2 plot was broken as fuck. Not even including it in this discussion. I'm talking about DaS 1 and BB, shit was hard to follow man and i'm tired of going on youtube to figure out what happen in a game i dumped 50+ hours into
>>323217898
Or you could backstab them or parry them or break their poise with a heavy weapon instead of spamming R1.
>>323218075
>replaying the game like a motivated fuck
You mean instead of using a save mule right?
Some kind of co op pve arena mode were you fight waves of enemies. There would be loads of different waves getting harder and harder ending with fighting multiple bosses.
>>323218075
This.
DaS2 removed the fun out of making a new character and playing through with that build.
>>323218141
Demon Souls had a much easier to understand plot because it was so much more simple. It was just about some asshole king who resurrected the demon god and fucked everything up.
I just want PvPfags to get blown the fuck out somehow. And definitely keep the needing a phantom to be invaded thing from the NT.
>>323218075
>beat the game over 10 times
>make every standard build
>DLC comes out
>a weapon I want to try requires 10 more points in some stat to use
>>323217686
I kind of understood the broad strokes of DaS1's ending even if I had to do a second playthrough to really get it. I understood DaS2's from the jump, I just thought it was stupid.
I think what DaS1 did right where DaS2 and BB fell short are the intros. In DaS1 it set up the game world pretty well and introduced you to the major players and their place in things first before starting the game proper. That way when Solaire mentioned Lord Gwyn he'd already been established instead of some random asshole you'd never seen before. And when you go into the Demon Ruins and start getting Izalith equipment you think "oh yeah like the Witch of Izalith! Wait what the hell happened here." Instead of like Old Iron Keep which had absolutely nothing to do with any of the areas around it or Yahar'Gul where you have to start murdering everything before you figure out what the fuck this place is.
tl;dr I hope DaS3 has a good strong intro to pull you into the game before starting the game and asking you to go lore hunting.
>>323218019
>In DS2 I still have no idea why I sat on the throne.
All you had to do was listen to the intro cutscene and a few NPCs.
>>323218141
All you need for DaS lore is whatever Frampt and Kaathe say, and the opening cinematic. Everything else should be side stories. The serpents should tell you what will happen in their endings.
BB is a little more complex. Turning into a slug had me confused, but it was fun theorizing in threads.
>>323218426
So put ten more points into that stat.
Lose your items on death. Need to run naked and unarmed, punching bitches to death, just to get your gear back.
>>323218465
Did bb really fall short in the intro department when they intended people to slowly discover the actual state of things?
>>323218532
Go ahead and explain the significance of the throne then.
>>323218581
And fuck up a build.
>>323218167
duuuuude
baaackstaaabfishing
duuuuude
parry
lmao
no sorry 1 on 1 no scrub mode btw good idea
my further suggestions would be cancel this whole backstab parry nonsense which gives free kills or make any r2 attack poise breaking
>>323218875
>muh balanced PvP
>>323218532
>Stupid annoying bitch preaching the same shit all game.
>tells me her "true" self before the boss
>LITERALLY WHO CARES
>dumb tree chaos shit that had to be added later because their lore is shit
>opening is just DRANGLEIC WOOOOOO BEAR SEEK SEEK LEST
>ENTIRE GAME IS BEAR SEEK SEEK LEST
>>323218875
Just make a new character, you autist, and keep the old one.
>>323218809
The throne is a simplified version of the fire/dark path, if you buy into the fire/curse shit. The game shits itself in the latter half by switching the goal, but unlike DaS you have actual goals from the beginning and can accomplish them, instead of stumbling upon an ending because why the fuck not.
>>323218936
epic
>>323218756
I feel like it. Reason being is that the only thing you're told is "seek Paleblood" and "kill beasts." Well you were going to kill beasts anyway and we have no context as to what Paleblood is. I mean we know it's probably the Paleblood Moon and maybe it has something to do with the the Moon Presence but we don't even hear about Paleblood again until we get to the Lecture Hall past the halfway point of the game. I just wish there were a bit more context to lay down at least some framework for the world around you.
>>323217363
>no weight limits
what possible benefit is there from this
>>323209917
A limited usable that let's you construct a bonfire wherever you want
>>323219140
You're the autist here. I'm not going to make a new build to use one weapon after beating this game like 15 times.
>>323219147
>The throne is a simplified version of the fire/dark path
First of all that explains literally diddly squat, and where in the game does it make the link between the throne, the fire and the dark?
I might've missed it I don't know.
Also in DaS you did have goals from the start, ringing both bells of awakening, which woke up Frampt, who gives the player a new goal.
>>323218936
playing with voice sounds on is not a good look
>>323219147
>sitting on a throne means lighting a fire
lol
Nope. All I saw was my character sit on a throne for no reason and the doors closed.
Dark souls actually shows my character lighting a fire.
>>323219340
fashion souls
wear whatever you want with whatever weapon you like
i cant stand to see the up xth naked motherfucker with a big ass sword because he cant wear anything else but wants to quickroll
balancefags need to leave
Somehow Plain Doll annoyed me less than the Emerald Herald, even though she had less dialogue.
>2 hand the Longsword with parry shield on backup
>regularly switch between Faraam, Alva and Drakeblood sets
All I've ever needed, works well for me in both pvp and pve.
Plus in terms of Fashion Souls it looks tasteful as fuck, no retarded anime tier garbage like the King Ultra-Greatsword.
>>323219147
>but unlike DaS you have actual goals from the beginning and can accomplish them, instead of stumbling upon an ending because why the fuck not.
No you didn't. Not unless you bought SotFS or all the DLC. Because your objective when you went to Drangleic is to find answers to your Hollowing. And then when you finally get there you're told to look for the king. Except after going through a whole lot of bullshit and you finally do find the king he's hollowed out. So you don't even get the answers you're looking for and continue to be sidetracked by this unrelated quest to find the Throne, even though that's not even the primary reason you came to Drangleic. Yes I know "well the reason you went along with Shanalotte's instructions is because you're hollowed and don't really know why you're doing anything anymore" except that it doesn't change the fact that unless you bought the DLC or SotFS then the entire intro is meaningless.
>>323218321
they are in every game
ds1
>no estus healing
>ganks
ds2
>seed of giants
>a shitty pyromancy and basically one spell for healing
bb
>30 fucking percent off
>shaman bone blade
>they can just run through the fog, no backstabs
>host can pick up more vials from enemies
>
>>323219448
I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to play through Dark Souls 2 again either.
>>323219147
>The throne is a simplified version of the fire/dark path
No it isn't.
The player isn't even given a choice.
>>323219656
>less dialogue
That's why. She doesn't begin every conversation with the BEAR SEEK SEEK LEST speech. Just a "welcome home what can I do for you."
>>323219615
but you also want armor to matter so how will that be balanced?
>>323219465
>First of all that explains literally diddly squat
It explains why you'd want to ascend the throne in the first place.
>and where in the game does it make the link between the throne, the fire and the dark?
Shanalotte's dialogue, and you'd know if you actually listened.
>Also in DaS you did have goals from the start, ringing both bells of awakening, which woke up Frampt, who gives the player a new goal.
But that's a reactive character that does shit because they don't have anything to do. At least BotC wants to cure their curse from the very beginning.
>>323219807
Post more Suzy.
>>323217898
What language is this supposed to be?
>>323219773
>no retarded anime tier garbage like the King Ultra-Greatsword.
>>323219879
You are now.
>>323209917
>>Ability to sheathe your right-hand weapon behind your back
i just want this, it should make your character move like 10% faster than having your weapons drawn so its not completely worthless.
>>323220018
Why did I need to kill those 4 guys to get past a pile of rubble?
Why did I not have a choice to not sit on the throne?
You don't even find a cure for the curse.
Also, Oscar of Astora gives you the quest to begin with unless you didn't hear him out. It was a fucking request.
>>323219803
>Because your objective when you went to Drangleic is to find answers to your Hollowing.
It's to reverse your curse.
>And then when you finally get there you're told to look for the king.
Because he knows about the essence of the soul, which is directly tied into the curse.
>Except after going through a whole lot of bullshit and you finally do find the king he's hollowed out.
That's why Shanalotte appears at the Undead Crypt and tells you to become the new monarch.
>So you don't even get the answers you're looking for and continue to be sidetracked by this unrelated quest to find the Throne, even though that's not even the primary reason you came to Drangleic.
You're being used by her, but unlike Frampt you have good reason to trust her, and it's a goal that will help both of you, especially with the Aldia ending.
>Yes I know "well the reason you went along with Shanalotte's instructions is because you're hollowed and don't really know why you're doing anything anymore" except that it doesn't change the fact that unless you bought the DLC or SotFS then the entire intro is meaningless.
But it's not because of that. It's only said that because a shitload of content got cut out, but it's still clear enough if you connect the tiny bits of story in between all of the dungeon crawling.
>>323220272
Unless you are RP'ing Guts there is no excuse.
>>323220585
That's the kind of FAS I like.
I dont care what's in it as long as the Alva set is in. Literally best looking armor in any video game ever
>>323219981
armor with good buffs is difficult to acquire ala ds2 win 1000 fights in the fight club to recieve thorn ring +2
armor that is in the beginning of the game will give you something something beeing able to recover 3% of your health per piece for a counter hit
mid game armor gives you the ability to make you invisible while you dodge roll (we are speaking about full sets at this point)
nothing should be game changing or breaking just lore friendly
pursuers armor gives you 1 more i frame and lets you hover over the ground
cleric armor gives you 1 faith per piece
they already did this in ds2 with the gloves which gives you a chance to crit or which let you cast a bit faster
the armors should have effect per piece and effect per set so if you only wear piece for fashion, you are still getting some effects from it and if the effects are compareable they should make a new effect like trousers of the pursuer let you only float, sorcere gloves let you cast in combination you get something like blue float fog instead of white because you are wearing half mage half pursuer stuff you know you can get really creative without breaking the game or forcing to wear one set to be really good
furthermore your hitbox could change so balance shit out etc etc
>>323220920
Can you stop posting her?
She looks ugly as fuck and her forehead is the size of a naval battleship, you can like 20 fighter jets on her god damn head.
>>323221115
You can fit like*
>>323220659
Except this still doesn't work and is a bait and switch. In Demon's Souls your objective from the beginning is to find and eliminate the source of the fog. And you do find the source of the fog: The Old One. Whether you choose to eliminate it is your choice but you do see your mission through. In DaS1 your objective from the beginning is to fulfill the prophecy and find out the fate of the Undead. And you do find out depending on who you believe, either your fate is to succeed Gwyn and set yourself on fire or your fate is to become the Dark Lord and rule over Humanity. Either way the game didn't diverge from it's original point.
Which is what I disliked about DaS2 because it feels like it's schizophrenic at best and lying to your at worst. You're Undead and your memory is failing? You need to go to Drangleic and collect souls to keep yourself sane until you can find the King. That's great and all. Except this "become a true monarch" thing has nothing to do with the original intent of going there. Which means the intro of you watching your memories fade and jumping into a black hole complete nonsense. Which they must've picked up on hence the crowns being treatment for hollowing. But this didn't come out until later which means if you didn't get it then the intro is useless to you. You get to the Crypt, you run into a Hollowed King, and then Shanalotte is like "so you're never going to get your answers. Wanna just do the whole monarch thing?"
>>323221360
If only she didn't breath through her mouth when she was a child and didn't have a face warranted the true signs of fetal alcohol syndrome.
More lewd bosses.
Better character creator.
>>323220659
>Trusting an annoying npc over Bro tier Oscar of Astora
Do they even explain why she levels your character up? I don't think so, and if there is, it's fucking stupid because the Undead in Dark Souls could just use bonfires.
Literally the worst npc out of all the games.
>>323220642
>Why did I need to kill those 4 guys to get past a pile of rubble?
Because of stupid level design.
>Why did I not have a choice to not sit on the throne?
Because you're being used.
>You don't even find a cure for the curse.
You find a cure to your curse, because you're either given a goal(which does fend the curse off), or because you get the enchanted crowns and are allowed time to find a way out of the cycle.
>>323220856
My journey is already complete.
My name is Shanalotte.
The dragon gave me this name, for I was born with none.
I was born of dragons, contrived by men.
By ones who would cozen fate herself… They are the ones who created me.
But they failed.
I did not come out as intended.
Fate would not be bested, and men were cursed once again.
If you proceed, Nashandra will come after you.
Knowing that you will take the throne, and link the fire.
She covets the First Flame, and the Great Soul.
Put Nashandra to rest.
Try opening your ears for once. She constantly mentions the throne and the fire after meeting Vendrick.
>And why would you think the cursed undead doesn't seek a cure for the curse or at least to understand it?
Why would he care? The CU was intentionally given a blank background because it was an excuse to RP and dungeon crawl.
>>323218075
you mean
>pvpbabies will respec everytime a youtuber creates a new build instead of cheating in the items for the build
>>323221360
>>323221049
>>323220920
>>323220585
>>323219807
isnt it confirmed that she has / had fetal alcohol syndrome? Not even trolling.
>>323221631
>More lewd bosses.
just go play any other gay jrpg leave dark souls alone
>>323209917
>Upgrade path visibly affects weapon's appearance
Having a permanent blue glow on my magic sword would motivate me way more to play as a magic knight or some shit. I don't want to apply a buff to get a cool effect.
They sort of already did this with Bloodborne, where the Tonitrus sparks often, indicating part of the damage it deals.
>>323221430
>>323221572
>>323221804
thanks for all the (you)s. Heres the last one
>>323221391
are you dense
in ds1 your mission is to ring the bells
thats all you dont even need to you dont even know what for, the rest is a carrier as the "story" unfolds.
in ds2 you seek big souls or not after all you was asked to do so and its not your own purpose
these games dont have any story senpaifam but tasks and objectives which arent really
its run around kill shit and act like it has purpose
>>323209917
None of these things are going to happen.
It's going to be much the same but with more 'safe' game design and less adventurous ideas.
It's going to be shit.
>>323221713
>b-because you're being used
More like a shitty story
>enchanted crowns
This is literally fan fiction. God, I can't believe this actually exists.
>>323210121
this is already in.
if you played as the cleric in the network test, you could see that your face would get stained by splatter.
but for whatever reason, they disabled the effect on armor and clothes.
otherwise, the splatter when HITTING enemies seems to be just like in BB
>>323218075
>people should have to replay the game and do all that grinding and farming all over again just to try out a slightly different build
Yeah nah, you're a cunt. In DaS1 I just used cheat engine to respec anyway
>>323213147
>changing colors
heresy.
that said, being able to open and close visors would be nice.
though it would make the standard knight helm obsolete
>>323222076
>I used third party software to manipulate a game because I can't appreciate what it is.
Maybe just don't play the game then.
>>323222257
You should probably get checked out for autism if you think players should replay the entire game every time they want to try out a slightly different build.
>>323222076
Why not just cheat the PvP and make yourself invincible while you're at it?
>>323222467
Have you even played a video game from the 20th century?
Players should NOT be allowed to be spoonfed repecs
>>323222017
They are extremely simple stories but they are stories
>Oscar
…There is an old saying in my family…
…Thou who art Undead, art chosen…
…In thine exodus from the Undead Asylum, maketh pilgrimage to the land of Ancient Lords…
…When thou ringeth the Bell of Awakening, the fate of the Undead thou shalt know.
…Well, now you know… And I can die with hope in my heart…
>Frampt
Chosen Undead, who has rung the Bell of Awakening.
I wish to elucidate your fate.
Do you seek such enlightenment?
>Answer "Yes"
Very well. Then I am pleased to share.
Chosen Undead. Your fate is… to succeed the Great Lord Gwyn.
So that you may link the Fire, cast away the Dark, and undo the curse of the Undead.
Or
>Kaathe
I can guide thee, and illuminate the truth.
Undead Warrior, conqueror of the Four Kings, is this not your wish?
To know the truth of men, and the Undead?
The truth I shall share without sentiment.
>blah blah Gwyn fucked everything up
But the other serpent, Frampt, lost his sense, and befriended Lord Gwyn.
Undead warrior, we stand at the crossroad.
Only I know the truth about your fate.
They are objectives but those objectives have a point in the context of the world you're killing shit in. Either save the world or make it you bitch. It's a simple tale with a bunch of backstory behind it but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>>323222467
What's the point of having a build if you're not going to play the game with it?
>>323221391
>In Demon's Souls your objective from the beginning is to find and eliminate the source of the fog. And you do find the source of the fog: The Old One.
Yeah, and it works because you have your own individual goals from the beginning and there isn't any vague bullshit like there is in DS1 and DS2. It's the best of the entire series because it's direct and logical but still has supplementary information if you so desire it.
>In DaS1 your objective from the beginning is to fulfill the prophecy and find out the fate of the Undead.
And after you ring the bells you get used by literal snakes because your character doesn't have anything better to do.
>>323213147
This. Just deeper armor/weapon customization overall imo, purely cosmetic of course. Stuff like being able to mix and match parts from the same slot, like two different gloves or pauldrons. Changing the crossguards and hilts on weapons or having something hanging from the pommel.
>>323211247
>DaS2
>>323210249
they look like bloodborne buffs no worries.
>>323221065
>>323219615
I cant tell if your a retard or serious on that part.
I want all DS2 fans to die.
You ruined my game..
>>323210442
bloodborne achieved that for me.
>>323210573
this. if it's a good as BB I will be happy.
>>323222921
>my game
stop being so entitled
+10/5 adds a special sword art or whatever but you won't know until you upgrade it, also make slabs hard to get again like in das1 or bring back katana red knight.
>>323209917
being able to take off certain parts of a set/add on other parts. Bloodborne did this but to an extent. There was a rare glitch where certain pieces of your garb came off that werent supposed to and they looked amazing.
>>323222038
Okay? There are plenty of other threads to shitpost in, maybe you should fuck off there.
>>323223016
Never.
>>323216876
that's a thing I liked in Bloodbone.
>>323223184
You are literally the only one here defending DaS2's shitty fan fic story.
>>323223493
>fan fic
>written by FROM
hope they have guns honestly
>>323222667
Are you also the type of person who grinds for perfect IVs in pokemon so your team can be competitive in online competitions?
>>323216876
This they fixed the problem of ugly ass glowing neon fagots in BB. It's the same reason everyone wears that ring in DS2. Shit is appalling.
>>323222920
i cant tell if you are sucking dick 24/7 or 23/7
>>323222651
you are right, there are stories, the game is full of them everything has its place and belongs to something and rarely is something very vague or standalone but explicitely for the chosen undead or ds2 mc there isnt something really prefixed, you can miss so much optional dialogue that you can end up without a story at all but with parts of it which in the end are at the roots of it kill this kill that so soeaking about a coherent story is basicly nonsensical i only said that there are intros because intros are more or less forced without speaking to oscar you cant get out of the asylum without speaking to herald you cant level up which are core mechanics but the game is still beatable oscar can be killed and you dont need to level up so there is no prefixed story and the rest, the rest is mimicking freedom of character ala you did this and that for this and that purpose but on your free will which isnt exactly a story after all if you dont speak to them you have your own reasons to do so and mostly these reasons are to kill something you arent playing an rpg in facto you are playing a action character progression game with minimalistic story elements which dont even explain everything thats happening around you all to well and if it is too fucking vague to call it a story and i dont care what your favourite youtubememer is telling you he is mostly talking bullshit and connecting dots where arent any
>>323221391
>Which is what I disliked about DaS2 because it feels like it's schizophrenic at best and lying to your at worst.
Which is what happens, but while Frampt and Kaathe are lying to you in order to further their own goals only, Shanalotte does it in order to help both of you. You're being used, but not manipulated, at least as far as the game tells you. Dark Souls is intentionally vague, and that's not bad by any means, but it shouldn't ever be construed as such.
>You're Undead and your memory is failing? You need to go to Drangleic and collect souls to keep yourself sane until you can find the King.
While souls help, they could also be the cure according to Shanalotte.
>That's great and all. Except this "become a true monarch" thing has nothing to do with the original intent of going there.
>Which means the intro of you watching your memories fade and jumping into a black hole complete nonsense. Which they must've picked up on hence the crowns being treatment for hollowing.
It's not the only cure, it's just the most reliable cure for an individual. Hollowing is a process that begins when you give up on life and stop having goals.
>But this didn't come out until later which means if you didn't get it then the intro is useless to you. You get to the Crypt, you run into a Hollowed King, and then Shanalotte is like "so you're never going to get your answers. Wanna just do the whole monarch thing?"
Well, she is using you to further her own goals, but they're all related because you won't be able to ascend to monarchy without being strong. In fact, the very first line of dialogue from her is her asking if you're worthy of become a king.
Why is manipulation of the MC a valid excuse for the serpents but not her?
>When you get an armor piece drop from an enemy, the next armor piece that belongs to that set that drops from a related enemy is another part of the set.
>No bullshit 0.1 percent unique armor drops like in DaS2 on 12 spawn counted enemies.
>No copy pasta bloodborne movesets or reskinned weapons from Bloodborne (certainly not happening)
>>323222468
>giving yourself titinite and equipment is cheating because I had to farm for 5 hours to get it! everyone should suffer as much as me!
>>323223605
>written by FROM's unpaid interns
>>323223605
Yes, fan fic. As in the story is so bad that it is Fan Fiction tier writing.
Besides, the story won't matter in DaS3 because it was just another stage in an endless cycle.
>>323223151
I sometime get the glitch that tucks my hunters jacket into his pants. Looks retarded but funny.
>>323223493
Okay friend. I think Demon's Souls is the only Souls game with a good story, but that doesn't mean it's okay for you to act retarded in a public forum.
the fact people want them to remove respecs and make grinding even worse is a just fucking shit
what does that even add to the game besides tedium
also lol, the hate for dks2 here is as cringy as it is on gamefaqs bb board, and they're all autisms
>>323223856
I've never had to farm for a build unless it's gems in BB. Are you really that bad?
>>323224140
BB pvp is bad so who gives a shit?
>>323224119
Because it forces you to choose which weapon you want to use for PvP, which is good in a game that's all about variety of playstyles for some reason.
>>323224140
Of course a BB fan is defending farming, seeing as that pos game has the worst grind of them all.
I just want good, unique bossfights. Waaaay too many in BB felt the same, similar to DS2.
>>323223874
we also need more scantily clad outfits. i.e sexy stuff.
>>323224413
care to explain?
>>323224119
What grinding?
>>323224584
he's probably referring to the totally optional chalice dungeons
>>323214434
Yes you can, There's a significan number of chunks on the forbidden woods, then there's also some in cainhurst which you can reach as soon as you go to Yosefka's clinic back entrance in forbidden woods, cainhurst itself has chunks as well as they can drop of gargoyles in there, after killing blood starved you can have sack man take you to the unseen village where you can get a couple more chunks.
Even without chalice or DLC you can technically get one weapon to +9 before rom within reasonable time, or as many as you want if you're willing to sink a few hundred hours into farming gargoyles.
>>323224547
>DkS2
Humanoids and armored humanoids.
>BB
Monsters that scream and flail around a lot.
>>323224249
the PvP isn't bad, and I mostly use my builds to PvE and help people in chalice dungeons
>>323224394
I'm not defending farming. I just said that the only game you need to farm in is BB.
>>323224249
it's fun though. it reminds me of DeS. it's broken as fuck, but I have fun. Unlike DaS2 which feels like a fucking chore. a slow, janky, molasses-like chore with no footsies.
From Software is a shit company with shit games anyways, this is just going to be a piece of shit like the rest of them.
Close this fucking thread.
>>323224850
will do
/closes
you can leave now
>>323224715
You said they felt the same but now youre describing their appearances?
>>323224753
>dash back and forth, spam guns and r1 mash
wow, so fun
>>323224413
Bait.
DaS2 is small man versus giant man fighting simulator.
>>323224119
Removing respeccing prevents you from viewing youtube videos of people abusing the game, like dual avelyns, that one spear in dark souls 2, etc., and then using said information to go on wreaking havoc invading normal people who are unaware of the insufferable "meta" crowd online.
>>323214256
>Wanting to reach the end of your weapon progression when you're halfway through the game
>Thinking souls games are fighting games and that pvp is super serious *bows before fight*
Why did DS2 attract the worst type of people
>>323224995
Metafags are gonna metafag anyway. Personally, I don't give a shit about PvP and want to be able to unfuck my build if I get it wrong at first
>>323224413
WHAT!??! HOW!??! it had the most boss variety since DeS.
>>323225219
lol?
when did this series get taken over by the beta cucks who want to protect the newbies and make the games more tedious
is it because of bb, aka the worst game from From
>>323210225
To be fair you can farms blood rocks from certain chalices in BB.
>>323224850
We are the only gamers here who play good games, right anon? ;)
Triss or Yen xddd
>All these DSII apologists ITT
Was DSII your first Souls game? It's the only way I can see anyone defending that wank of a story and setting.
Fucking cycles. What bullshit. Not only does it make no sense with DS1's setting (cycles was more DeS) but it seriously undermines both the overarching themes of DS1 as well as the meaning of the endings.
Honestly, there should never have been a Dark Souls II. Bloodborne is the real sequel in the DeS/DaS/BB trilogy.
>>323224983
DaS2
>backstep, spin, hit r1 twice, repeat
I can do it too
>>323217684
Poise is a poor contructed mechanic that amounts to being nothing more than a shitter enabler.
Poise should never be armour related, it should be tied to weapons through hyper armour, and the standard should be that heaver, slower weapons have the most hyper armour, while it gets less and less as the weapons get progressively faster in tiers.
i.e, DEX builds should, as a standard have much less hyper armour than STR builds, as they're generally faster.
>>323224715
You're joking?
>>323225434
>Not only does it make no sense with DS1's setting (cycles was more DeS) but it seriously undermines both the overarching themes of DS1 as well as the meaning of the endings.
How so?
>>323219232
Bloodborne isn't a fairy tale in the same way that Dark Souls is
You aren't dealing with ancient, magical forces that have been around for ages, you're going to a town because you're sick and they have good medicine, and once you get there you find out shit's fucked and have to figure out wha's going on. If the game had opened with a cutscene saying "Once upon a time some assholes discovered magic blood in a cave, then one person took some blood and made a church, and now there's werewolves running around" it would have ruined the atmosphere
>>323225434
DkS2 and BB are both shit so who cares.
>>323225434
>apologists
Bro... why are you getting so vested in a game?
You seriously need to calm down, its actually kind of creepy.
>>323211675
That's one of the few good things from DaS2 though.
>>323225696
I think this has to be the most normie tier post I have seen on this website.
What the fuck is happening to this place.
This thread just shows that the Souls fanbase is about as autistic as the Undertale fanbase is.
>>323224715
BB had non monster bosses as well man.
>Martyr Logarius
>Gherman
>Maria
>Father Gascoine
>Yharnam Queen
>Pthumerian Descendant/Elder
>Keeper of the Old Lords
>Undead Giant
>and I am going to count Ludwig's 2nd phase because his first is a beast and his 2nd is a man
>>323225492
Or how about larger weapons decrease the amount of poise you get from your armor. So Fat Havel builds aren't so strong when you punch them to death
>>323225903
theyre all pretty samey desu
nice try tho
>>323225816
>Being normal is bad.
You really have some issues, don't you?
>>323225492
But hyper armor is a gimme with larger weapons that way. If you want to be able to dodge and use a greatsword in DaS then you need to learn how to not get hit. With hyper armor you can tank through attacks while rolling around like anybody else. At least you need to build your character for it with a poise system, and you need heavier armor so you can't dodge as effectively.
>>323209917
>Ability to sheathe your right-hand weapon behind your back
Only dumb ass children think this is cool. No one ever, in the history of fucking EVER, sheathed weapons on their back. You can't actually draw or sheathe anything bigger than a shortsword on your back. Human arms are just not long enough.
>>323215163
Cainhurst Castle, faggot.
>>323225980
It is terrible, though.
>>323225434
there are apologists for every game, especially after the initial shitting on it.
>>323225971
ok then
I just hope they don't go overboard on the "DaS2 Bad, remove all traces of it" shit. Like, please, keep the little shit. I want to see my next item/spell behind the one I currently have up in particular. I want the faster climbing/descending. I want Jump and Roll on entirely different buttons. Shit like that.
But please JESUS FUCKING CHRIST fuck off with this infinite fall damage nonsense. I can't roll out of my fucking bed without cracking my skull on the ground in DaS2. Fucking.
>>323225971
Do you even have bloodborne
>>323225913
The issue is then katana wielding Havelshitters would have no punishment, as they'd have the full poise from Havels set while being much faster, so it would end up a greatsword weilding Havelshitter has the same poise as a katana weilding havelshitter after deductions. Then we're back to square one.
>>323215163
>DLC doesn't count. Chalices don't count.
I'll give you DLC but come on now, chalices are just as much a part of the game as everything else.
>>323226329
yes but i know when a lot of monster and human bosses are copypasted
unlike you will smith
>>323226294
I really liked Bloodborne's UI. very clean and minimalist.
>>323212525
That's not necessarily true. Often times in DaS2 a weapon may have a high attack rating but that doesn't mean it does high damage in practice. For example, slash damage weapons have very high attack rating but are almost always outclassed by strike weapons with lower attack ratings because of the way enemy defenses work (in this case, most enemies basically don't have any strike defense)
>>323225598
The main themes of Dark Souls are lost glory and the twilight years of a golden age. Maintaining a beautiful lie vs embracing an ugly truth.
From the very beginning of the game, you're told the light will fade and only dark will remain. That sentiment is repeated several times throughout the game and DLC, and it has meaning. You can sacrifice yourself and throw everything on the line to keep the illusion going, like Artorias, Gwyn and even Gwyndolin did, but it doesn't matter. Eventually you're going to run out of bodies to chuck on the fireplace, or someone won't be up to the task, or whatever, the light will fade and only dark will remain. It's an inevitability. Just as the Age of Ancients passed on, so will the Age of Fire. The torch is being passed onto a new age, and the flames will be gone forever to bring in something new.
To then change that and have it so that the flames somehow magically restart themselves and the world arbitrarily bobs between light and dark whilst the same four characters keep getting reincarnated kind of ruins the atmosphere and themes of the first game.
>>323226517
It's shit.
>>323218075
>find a cool looking new weapon
>build a new character
>turns out I don't really like it
I'm glad Miayzaki didn't throw out everything from DaS2.
>>323226596
fuck you
>>323211247
>Infinitely respawning
>What is enemy extinction
>>323215603
>Locking into a build when you don't know if there are any decent weapons for it is stupid
That's why your first playthrough should always be a quality build.
>>323226596
explain why please. DaS1 and 2's were horrible unless you modded it. They were so huge and poorly placed on the screen.
>>323225980
You're really not from around here, are you?
Perhaps you should fuck off home, you mindless sack of cum.
>>323226491
If you try to fight gherman like you'd fight keeper you'd get stomped on
>>323226517
I like the minimalism about it, yeah. Though the rearranging of all the items and shit throws me off a bit. Still want to be able to see the next option for each hand/spell/item though. And weapon artes or whatever they're called too.
>>323225598
Have you played DS1? There is literally and figuratively no cycles bullshit in DS1 story and lore.
>>323226596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkFsML70-Eg
>>323226629
fuck you too
>>323226754
It looks like shit. Get better eyes.
>>323226778
wrong
>>323226596
It is hands down the best in the series so far.
Try and deny it.
>>323226971
Denied.
I win.
