Find what you are looking for, amongst the dead?
>>323181590
No, I was looking for a lightsaber, since it says Star Wars on the box.
Silly me, not knowing I need another 10 hours of boredom before that happens.
Yup, just found my hopes and dreams.
>>323181590
Yeah *unzips dick*
Time to use some force on you honey
What a great first line. Already deconstructing not only Star Wars tropes, but video game tropes as well.
What RPG doesn't have you endlessly looting corpses? You instinctively went for that corpse, because it is what you have done in every other game. But, then, Kreia almost breaks the fourth wall - making note of what you expected to be an entirely mundane act (in a video game).
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>>323181590
>that garbage Exile head
>>323181590
*Kreia grabs your hand*
*wait she has no hand*
hmm something seems wrong
>>323183183
>she has no hand
but she has a hand at that time still
>>323182913
I know. Seriously, why would you play with anyone other than pic related?
>>323181590
>Force crushing Kreia to death
The best feel.
>>323183545
>not simply shooting her with mandalorian disintigrators
>>323183662
She just hates the force anon, it's just right to kill her using force powers.
>>323183798
She also hates Atton. What would Atton do?
Shoot her.
>>323183975
>Kreia hates Atton
>Kreia hates the Force
>Atton can learn to use the Force
POETRY
>>323183662
>not mind tricking her light sabers
>>323181698
mummy wheres my laser sword i want it now NOW!!!!
>>323184961
My god.
>>323185036
You can do that?
>>323185607
yes
light sabers fighting light sabers all day
>>323183510
>Playing a female Exile
>Disciple over Handmaiden
Oh wow
>>323185901
It's a loss, sure. But, at least you can roll with Mira and Visas.
>>323186224
or you could just make a male Exile
>>323186324
but what if I want an all-female team?
>>323186389
then you're a faggot
hasn't anyone attempted to make a kotor 3 mod or something?
>>323181590
These threads make me wanna play Kotor 2 again but holy shit I don't want to go through the first level again
>>323186510
wouldn't that, by definition, no longer be a mod?
>>323186571
There is a "skip Peragus" mod. Problem is, I think it locks you out of the HK factory if you use it in conjunction with the restored content mod. Perhaps someone knows better than me.
I'd still do it, though. I've gone through that shitty mine too many times.
>>323186571
There's a mod to skip Peragus
>>323186571
it's not that bad m8
PURE PAZAAK
Someone care to explain this meme so I don't have to think for myself and use Google? I haven't played that game.
>>323186930
fuck off, not everything is a meme
why do you even care if you haven't played the game
fucking underageb&
>>323186930
It's literally just the first line you hear in KotOR 2. You loot a corpse, and that woman talks to you. Not everything's a meme, anon.
>>323186930
>Help old man by giving him 50 cents
>FUCK YOU THAT MAN WILL NOW LOOK FOR HANDOUTS FOREVER OMG YOU DIDNT TEACH HIM TO FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Dont give old man 50 cents
>YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU PIECE OF SHIT HOW CAN YOU SIT BY AND WATCH OTHERS SUFFER FUCK YOU BURN IN HELL
Kreia isn't a master of the force, but of the edge.
>>323181590
these threads are on par with the "atheists r wrong" threads that you see daily
>>323187712
Except the former is actually about video games.
>>323187274
The point of that is that it is a classic 'good choice or evil choice' a lot of settings have, and Star Wars in particular has to extremes with Jedi/Sith.
Kreia's point is that both ideologies are flawed, and beyond that the fact that both factions are objectively evil through use of the force.
>>323187829
fuck off Kreia, the force is awesome
>oh noooooo both light and dark jedi rely on the power that gives them ridiculous magic powers
>>323187274
Why do people keep bringing up this insignificant part of the game? I never even gave a shit - I just did what I wanted (helped the man -- or not), and let Kreia sulk in the Ebon Hawk.
>>323187782
which I appreciate
How viable is an explosives build?
i.e. focus on Demolitions, and try to kill everything with grenades and mines?
I know it's pretty easy to cheese most bosses with mines. Will I have enough of them, though?
Fuck I wanna play this again.
I wish 1 would get a mod for a windowed mode or something, forcing it does weird things.KOTOR3 never ;_;
>>323188387
You can build them, deconstruct all your boosters and implants and you might be able to pull it off
>>323186767
But the HK planet is dog shit anyway m8
>>323188452
Get the 32bit version of flawless widescreen and manually put your desktop resolution into the KOTOR INI, works fine.
>>323187829
The scene would maybe worked in a game without a retarded morality meter and dialogue choice that weren't either sucking everybodies dicks for light side points or being a 14 year old edgelord.
They didn't give the player the choice to say anything different, something that isn't Jedi/Sith before belittling the player for choosing one of 2 badly written dialogue options
>>323188894
>Get the 32bit version of flawless widescreen
The what now?
>manually put your desktop resolution into the KOTOR INI
I've done that before, it gives off this weird flicker effect when I open it and any time I try to tab out. Been a long while since then though.
>>323188891
The droid planet and the HK factory are two distinct places.
The first is terrible, supposedly. The second isn't as bad, though I haven't played either.
>>323189624
Cause you aren't using FW with it and KOTOR1 only runs in old ass resolutions.
>http://www.flawlesswidescreen.org/#Download
Get the portable 32bit (x86) one and put it in your KOTOR folder. Run it and dl the plugin for it.
>>323189993
Huh, I'll give this a try then. Gotta reinstall the game again.
>>323190590
Well hop to
>>323181590
*tips hood*
>>323186869THERE'S MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
>>323187970
>leave grandma on the bus while running around adventuring with cute girls
>she uses her space wizard powers to telepathically harass you
I demand this bond be severed NOW.
>>323193095SYSTEMS FAILING, MASTER
>>323191001
Well it works, but the game crashes on starting a new game after making a character.
>>323195067
You have to run the game and exit at least once for it to start properly the first time.
Are you using the Steam version? You might need a cracked exe. I just pirated the Gog version since I still have my Xbox version.
>>323195340
>You have to run the game and exit at least once for it to start properly the first time.
Did that, because all it did was make my screen go all wonky and didn't actually show the game.
>Are you using the Steam version?
Yep, that's annoying.
Kreiaposters redpill me on why the Jedi suck
>>323195602
When I was trying to get it working myself a few guides mentioned disabling Steam's auto patching/file checking or w/e and to get a cracked exe, something about Steam's DRM
at a certain point these threads become a general and should go to >>>/vg/
>>323195732
Figured it out with a bit of checking.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=362478411
>>323197160
Have fun. Don't forget mods like the restored content.
>>323197562
Ah right, I need to go dig that stuff up again.
Least kotor2's is easy with the workshop/
>>323197713
>http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/category/1-knights-of-the-old-republic/
>http://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/?
Those should have most things. I just grabbed the restore patch and a bunch of texture mods etc like the hq skyboxes.
Might be worth grabbing the save editor too, I ran into this bug and needed it
>http://forum.bioware.com/topic/561157-jolee-cutscene-bug/
>>323195639
Because they are just a zealous and blinded as the Sith.
The Jedi are a cloistered order who espouse peace and understanding but fail to understand the larger galaxy that they live in. Being detached from emotions actually forbids them from real compassion and they fail to understand the galaxy from the eyes of the majority of people who don't wield the Force.
And they often sit idly by while millions die in wars by refusing to act or to keep deliberating amongst themselves in their ivory tower.
Play Kotor 2 and then go back and play Kotor 1 and tell me the Jedi Council aren't filled with trite platitudes and inaction.
Bastila and Carth argue about the outcome of the Mandalorian Wars and Bastila said Revan caused millions of innocents to die because he disregarded the Jedi and fought the Mandos head on. Look how misguided she is, she literally thought the "wise Masters" had all the answers and that the Jedi should have waited to help. Bullshit, if Revan did not help the Republic defeat the Mandolorians, billions instead of millions would have died.
To get back to the task at hand, Kreia recognizes that the Sith and the Jedi are a RELIGION and not a philosophy anymore, they are power brokers just like the modern day Catholic Church or sovereign governments. They both wield the Force with disdain and incorrectly, the Sith seek to dominate it and the Jedi are ashamed of the Force, almost as if it is a burden.
>>323198393
I like this post.
>>323181698
So you expected to have a Lightsaber in Republic Commando?
>>323198343
I'll go through this soon enough. That trait one seems interesting, because I've been wanting to do a blaster character and it shoves melee stuff on you that does nothing.
>>323186510
I think there is a hilariously bad mod that attempts it.
>Finished kotor2 for the nth time tonight
>Get the urge for kotor
>Remember Telos
Yeah fuck that
>>323198910
thanks for the spoiler
>>323199605
You mean taris, and there is a Skip Taris mod.
I've done Dantooine and almost done with Nar Shaddaa. Are the other planets better? Dantooine was ok but Nar Shaddaa isn't that interesting desu. I actually liked Peragus and the beginning a lot with all the mystery and Kreia dialogue.
>>323200068
Taris is the one most people complain about, but the guy could just as well mean Telos
All that fucking travelling around
>>323200068
I love you.
>>323181590
What's with these kotor threads recently? First time I've seen so many.
>>323200556
everyone's playing a black guy to fulfill their cuck fantasies from force awakens
>>323200556
Episode 7 came out recently, so everyone is expecting some KOTOR 3 to come from the depths of the earth.
>>323198393
10/10 post
screepcaped
>>323189878
Droid planet is nothing more than a fetch quest planet. I can see why it was cut god it was awful. It was cool finding the missing Jedi Master but that was about it.
>>323201174
the whole AI thing was cool
too bad everything up to that point was shit
doing a blaster jedi in KotOR 1
sniper shot or rapid shot?
>>323201573
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>>323195639
To quote Chris Avellone
>Fuck the Jedi and fuck the Sith, they're both stupid point of views and the force creates its own problems
>>323195752
Fuck that. There's already a star wars games general, yet it is completely dominated by TOR. Even if we could keep TOR out of such a general, it would become stale like all other generals do.
Might as well keep the discussion fresh on /v/ while we still have new people playing it from the sale. Since both games are single-player, discussion will inevitably die down.
>>323181590
no i don't thanks for reminding me granny
>>323189878
HK Factory is actually quite fun since you only get HK-47 and, unlike SWTOR, HK-47 is still both murderous and comical without being reduced to pure comic relief. There's a moment where you get into an argument and standoff with 3 of his copies before all of them realize their programing forbids them to self-harm, and since they're all copies of eachother they also can't harm one another.
Queue HK running around the facility breaking shit with impunity as the rest of the HK's passive-aggressively bitch at him over the intercom and call him names.
>>323201746
how many scoundrel levels before I go into guardian? I'm thinking 7
>>323183975
Play Pazaak.
>>323182634
>tfw never noticed it
>>323202191
>tfw never multiclassed/prestige classed in the decade I owned the physical discs
>>323202191
8 is superior since you get the second scoundrel defense feat.
But kotor1 is very easy and you don't really need a "build" to utterly demolish most enemies.
>>323202465
Lel how is this even possible? You never once spoke to Kreia for the last 20 hours of the game?
>>323181590
So what's the best order to do the planets if you want to Jedi-fy your entire team?
If you do Nar first to get Mira early, you likely won't have the influence with Atton to do his dialogue. If you do any of the other planets first, you may not have time to do Mira once you get her on Nar.
>>323202513
I hope you don't mean easy comapred to KotOR2 because both are equally easy
>>323202108
That was pretty good. Trying to remember the last time I got to do something that lulzy in a game without breaking immersion.
what is the best order of planets /v/
>>323202643
I do Nar Shadaa first every time. Nar Shadaa is actually the key planet to convert Atton. If you agree with Atton on Peragus and then talk to the Twi-Lek's in the refugee sector on Nar Shadaa, they will tell you he is aSith trained Jedi assassin. This will allow you to get the session with Kreia on listening into people on the Ebon Hawk and will allow you to talk to Atton about his past.
>>323202465
does this mean you never leveled up a jedi class in 1?
>>323202831
HK was always a goldmine before SWTOR flanderized his character to hell and back.
Forget which, but in one of the KOTORs you can find a morality chip and instal it into him. It instantly turns him into a hug-bot pansy.When you yank it out immediately because he's even creepier when he's nice, he instantly flips his shit over what he temporarily became and is horrified/traumatized by the experience.
>all these KOTOR threads
I love you /v/
also does the steam version of KOTOR run fine? Or will it crash every 10 seconds like my physical copy?
>>323203367
It's literally garbage because it doesn't run widescreen natively. If you try and use scrips like Flawless Widescreen it just crashes.
I've actually been playing on my iPad and Aspyr did a fucking excellent job porting it. The controls aren't bad at all and the turn based combat works well with the touch controls.
>>323203135
In my first playthrough of kotor1 when I was 11 I instantly cheated my way to max level right at the start and then never got any levels in jedi for the whole game.
>>323183510
C U C K
>>323203616
that's awesome
>>323202643
>So what's the best order to do the planets if you want to Jedi-fy your entire team?
Nar Shadda: Atton and Mira get Jedified.
Dantooine: Get the Disciple (if you are female), get affinity with Bao Dur if light side
Dxun: Go with Bao-Dur and Mira (for an extra affinity boost) and be a cool guy to the mandos in danger.
Korriban always the last.
>>323186726
HOLY SHIT
>>323203609
pretty sure the widescreen gaming forum had a special section on how to fix the steam version if you want to use uniWS
I don't know, I really enjoyed Peragus. The writers did a great job letting the player piece together the story of what happened to the station as they progressed. It's just a shame that HK had to lay it out in the simplest terms for everyone who wasn't paying attention.
The background music was pretty ass though. Having the same piece play on repeat for several hours gets pretty annoying, especially when it isn't very good to begin with.
>>323202643
>If you do Nar first to get Mira early, you likely won't have the influence with Atton to do his dialogue.
Of course you will. I always do Nar Shaddaa first and leave with Jedi Atton.
>>323203815
That's how I always played through the game
>Corrupted save time 7h50
>Last save working 2h35
FUCK MYL IFE
>>323204038
>The background music was pretty ass though. Having the same piece play on repeat for several hours gets pretty annoying, especially when it isn't very good to begin with.
A lot of the music is like that. The combat themes especially get old. I found that I was muting the music and playing my own during my last playthrough.
Not Manaan, though. I will always leave that on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD4YUEd18R0
>>323203815
I know it's kind of weird, but I always liked to do Korriban right after Nar Shadaa.
It's usually Nar Shadaa > Korriban > Onderon > Dantooine > Onderon for me.
>no rule 34
Fuck me seriously I wanted to answer the thread and I made a new one instead
>>323200226
Nar Shaddaa starts off slow but suddenly goes off the fucking rails in the best way possible. It was my favorite planet of the bunch.
Korriban throws some great curve balls, but is really short.
Onderon / Dxun was also very good. Less crazy than Nar Shaddaa, but still has a really solid plot and gameplay.
I sure hope you're using the Restored Content mod.
>>323199823
>complaining about a spoiler of a 10 year old game
>>323204395
>That song plays inThe Old Republicwhen you return to Manaan.
>>323204982
Yeah, I am. I'm at the part where T3M4 gets the landing codes. I guess it's not that bad, I just got annoyed that they forced me to play as Mira.
>>323181590
Is there a new KOTOR related thing coming out soon or something?
>>323205307
There was just a sale, and also, of course, the new Star Wars just came out, so people are interested in Star Wars games.
>>323205307
No official announcements and with how hard up Disney is to cash in, they'll make an RPG but something to go along with their movie canon.
Look what happened to 1313. Now it's going to be a Boba Fett generic action shooter.
>>323205307
There have been rumblings within the last 3 months or so of an HD multiplat KotOR remake.
>>323205286
haha that was so great
>clutching all the fightsbecause I used auto level up on my companions
>barely getting by, practically using medikits every other round
>get back my Guardian
>wreck everything in two hits
>>323205307
well there is that one star wars game being written by Amy Hennig
supposed to be an open world rpg
>>323204982
Really I think Nar shadaa was the worst part.
Was too complicated and ugly.
Some boring quests too.
The only thing of interest is Atton's back story.
>>323204982
>First level is your mentor training you through exposing you to great danger
>Begin collecting companions who are drawn to you or seem to have a strange history with your mentor
>Female warrior who is ostracized, has a strong sense of personal beliefs, but who is still young and whom can be shaped by you
>Shady male tag-along who is clearly hiding a darker past and masks his feelings with a wall of fake-self-absorption
>A programmed loyal companion who has no choice but to follow and support you no matter how good or evil you are
>All of you are on a quest to destroy a hidden, mystical threat nobody else believes exists.
>Threat is tied-in-to and supported by the largest ruling power of the time, and you have to fight through entire armies of footsoldiers to get to the main villains.
>Encounter old tutors along the way that shape both your education and personality depending on how you deal with them.
>Two main minibosses are half-dead abominations of magic who can only be defeated by you as you are special.
>After all your hard work, your mentor turns on you and reveals it was all a plot from the beginning to shape you into the exact thing they needed to succeed.
>The last mission is you fighting through the stronghold of your now-revealed master as your companions inevitably are lost, lose faith in you, die, or stick with you to the bitter end.
>Defeat mentor in their throne-room and bring balance to the world again.
Is Jade Empire literally the same game as Kotor 2?
>>323204631
This way you have to go Korriban twice as you can't enter the sith cave so early in the game.
>>323206056
What triggers you being able to go into the Sith cave?
>>323206030
>>A programmed loyal companion who has no choice but to follow and support you no matter how good or evil you are
who's this in Jade Empire?
also, some of that is really grapsing for straws bro
>Threat is tied-in-to and supported by the largest ruling power of the time
a videogame where you fight the large empire? UNHEARD OF
>yfw finding out Atton is a Jedi-killing supernazi
>>323205761
Yeah, I wanted to save up levels on Mira but just gave up and put points into Dex and blaster feats.
>>323206030
>Entire level takes place in the enemy Training Grounds where you have to pretend to be as evil as your enemy to maintain your cover.
Bioware likes re-using the same themes in their games. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>323206030
Primary difference is that in Jade Empire, your Mentor manipulated you to destroy threats to him so he can rule unequaled.
In KoToR 2, you're being conditioned to do what your mentor couldn't.
>>323206401
>KoToR 2
>Bioware
>>323206530
He's referring to the Sith Academy in 1.
>>323203815
How about for sithifying your party?
>>323206247
Wild Flower/Chai Ka. Even if you decide to not release the Water Dragon, they'll be forced to support your decision as the Water Dragon made them follow you regardless of what you do.
Chai gets kicked out of Heaven for it after the game and Wild Flower wanders the earth with him as an insane never-aging vessel.
>>323206184
Having a prestige class
>>323206030
in JE you can actually let the old guy rule alone, like he wanted. He even builds you some statuesand laughs at what a fucking moron you were.
>>323206671
Doesn't the demon hate it if you are Closed Fist? There was another demon who you could make take over, right?
So how exactly was the force manipulating its users, again? And how would getting rid of the force solve the problems of the world? I mean, mandalorians obviously weren't all force users and look at all the shit they did
>>323206030
Is it also just me noticing these games -really- like putting in turret or shooting sections for no apparent reason?
I mean really, think about it.
>Jade Empire - Top-down shooting between levels and bonus material
>KOTOR - Random turret sections between planets
>KOTOR 2 - Peragus turret section
>Mass Effect 2 - shooting monkeys with turrets
>SWTOR - On-rails space shooting minigame
I mean that's just off the top of my head, but Bioware especially seems really fond of putting in this kind of thing into most every RPG they make for some reason.
>>323183510
>not playing the Jesus Exile
>>323206913
Chai hates it but can't oppose you, and you can bind your Mentor's brother, the asshole in the suit of armor, into following you after you defeat him. You can have both of them as Closed Fist.
>>323206759
And you cannot get a prestige class as early as Nar Shadaa?
>>323207110
At least the latter two are skippable.
>>323207110
>Kotor 2
>Bioware
>>323206030
>Losing party-members in JE because you're too lazy to complete their side-conversations
But I'll admit there's a comparison there, especially if you don't have the restored content mod and suddenly Mira is dead and T2 is dead and GOTO is betraying you and Bao-Dur is probably dead and good lord.
>>323207110
Oh, fuck that shit. It's short, so tolerable, but as you said, completely unnecessary.
>>323207240
It's not the class it's just having over a set amount of LS or DS points
WHY CANT YOU FUCK MIRA, THAT LITTLE SLUT
>>323206661
Negative affinity. If you Manage to have 0 or less afinity with one companion he will become the opposing of what you are. So:
If you are a Sith and Atton hate you ---> Atton becomes a Jedi Guardian
If you are a Jedi and Atton hate you ---> Atton becomes a Dark Guardian.
This is the easyest way for Bao-Dur as he gets pissed a lot with your bad actions.
I love how every thread turns into friendly discussions despite OP's intention.
>>323207774
THE ROMANCE IS COMPLETELY TACKED ON ANYWAY
>>323207719
I'm pretty sure I've gone in the cave in Korriban after just Nar Shadaa. You can get a shitload of LS/DS points in Nar Shadaa; there's just so many refugees and others that you can help or screw over.
>>323207805
So there is no way to bring my bros (and hoes) to the dark side with me?
>>323207097
It doesn't manipulate people. Kreia hates the Force because it breeds weakness; both through polarization of its use and the literal need to be connected to it at all times. The two most powerful religions (and their powerful followers) need it to survive and without it they die.
The Exile was being trained to represent how one does not need to rely on the Force in order to live, to illustrate the arrogance and failings of both the Jedi and Sith, that reliance on one single entity does not open you to the galaxy, it closes you off, separates you.
>>323207962
What? I wanted friendly discussion all along. I like Kreia's first line in the game.
>>323206271
>mfw he's the best bro
>>323208192
You get like half a romance story with Mira, she opens up to you and even admits to liking you, but then NOTHING. She doesn't care. I'm PISSED. It's too much like real life.
>>323208346
Sure you do, brah.
>>323208417
She sees you as more of a father figure than anything. You're too old for her.
>>323208308
that's like saying mage users shouldn't rely on magic
fuck that
I'm not gonna learn how to manually hack a droid if I can just mind trick it with force magic
>>323208290
I've managed to convert everyone to Dark Jedi with high influence, but it took some careful work.
>>323208898
That's the fucking point. Rely on force magic, die the moment it's taken away from you because you can't do anything without it.
>>323208898
Kreia's entire point is that anyone who relies on an external source of power rather than their own capabilities is a fucking retard that deserves to die horribly.
>>323209109
Huh. Thanks.
>>323209132
>>323209395
it's hardly external, it's an ability bsed on the user's potential and training, much like physical abilities
>die the moment it's taken away from you
lel I'd like to see anyone trying to take it away from me without getting crush opposition, insanity, force storm, plague, kill, force crush and drain life right in their face
>>323208898
She explains you can rely fully on it if you want, but you are utterly weak and foolish if you do.
This reliance has in turn created the Sith and Jedi mindsets of: wrestling with ultimate power which only leads to consumption of your "soul" and carrying the burden of power and being ashamed of it, which causes you to withdraw from life itself; respectively.
>>323208898
>Land in Onderon
>Guard is not letting me pass
>[MIND TRICK] You will let me pass
>[Success] You can pass
>Kreia: "The real victory is to archieve that withouth relying in the force"
If you pass withouth using the force you get influence with Kreia.
>>323209648
Kreia stripped the Jedi masters of their power with ease, she showed them what it was like to live in the Galaxy through the eyes of the Exile, and because of their reliance on the Force, they perished because they were not strong enough to survive without that link.
I really am astonished you cannot look deeper into what she was saying, ironically, it's quite a black and white explanation of a grey area subject.
>>323209648
The force is not a latent power. Yes, a force user's effectiveness lies in their level of training and abilities, but it isn't a power that comes from within. The second you take away the force, almost every Jedi and Sith would be nothing more than a couple of pretentious mooks.
Also, your reasoning about why it would be impossible to have the force taken away is exactly why Nihlus and Sion are such pathetic, tortured characters.
>>323210004
>>323210259
but you could argue basically the same thing for absolutely anything
>oh you're a great melee fighter? well you're weak because what if you lose your arms?
>oh you're a great lobbyist? well you're weak because what if you lose your arms?
>oh you're a great painter? well you're weak because what if you lose your sight
>oh you rely on your abilities without using the force? well you're weak because what if a jedi uses mind trick on you because you didn't train as much in the force as he did
I'm aware this sounds like reductionist shitposting but I am seriously not following how it is different to lose an ability because you lot a limb and losing force abilities because someone took them away
>>323210454
GODDAMNIT
lobbyist is supposed to lose his money
>>323207097
Didn't the game talked about how the force actually influence events to achieve an arbitrary 'balance'?
>>323210454
Because losing an arm causes someone to lose their profession not their life and soul.
Is a Jedi still a Jedi without the Force?
A quote from Kreia:
"Yes, and what are they without the Force? Take the greatest Jedi Knight, strip away the Force, and what remains? They rely on it, depend on it, more than they know. Watch as one tries to hold a blaster, as they try to hold a lightsaber, and you will see nothing more than a woman – or a man. A child."
>>323210454
Kreia is a turbo edgelord. Just leave her on the ship and interact with her as little as possible.
>>323210454
You become a good fighter by training your strength and endurance. The power came from within.
You become a good lobbyist by perfecting your charisma and negotiation skills, as well as your dick sucking form. The power came from within.
You become a good painter by honing your artistic skills and artistic vision. The power comes from within.
You become a good Jedi by getting better at siphoning an external cosmic force. All of your abilities and superhuman capabilities stem entirely from this external force.
See the difference?
>>323210793
>dismissing an entire philosophy because you think it's edgy instead of discussing it to understand it better
>>323210784
Is a fighter who lost his arm (I guess the proper analogy would be the loss of both arms since we're talking about getting all force connection taken away?) still a fighter? I'd say it makes him unable to fight and thus a former fighter
He's still able to teach people his fighting techniques, similar to Jedi
I also disagree that being a Jedi is their "life and soul"
It just seems that way because "Jedi" mostly refers to the followers of that philosophy, you have people like Jolee who don't define their life by being a Jedi
>>323211315
Jedi definitely have different potential though which comes from within
I don't wanna go the midichlorian route but there's definitely power levels that differ on an individual basis, assuming the same amount of training
>>323211870
A Force Sensitive, I guess I should say then. A Force Sensitive gains his power from the Force, not from within, and when you remove this external force they die.
That is why reliance on the Force is weakness and dangerous, which is what Kreia is trying to tell you the whole time.
>>323211870
Midichlorian only influences a Jedi's ability to use the force. At the end of the day, they are still entirely reliant on an external power.
The latent potential might be different, but it doesn't matter much since that potential is only useful for using the force.
>>323209648
Dis some next level baits
>>323186571
Peragus is okay because of the athmosphere, but the droid parts, space station and the planets before freeroam are 0/10
>>323181698
I know you're just being a funster here but on a serious note I never understood why not having a lightsabre was so boring? I love it. It's so cool being a Jedi in a world where the Jedi are nearly all lost and so the same goes for lightsabres. And then you realize that being a Jedi has nothing at all to do with having a lightsabre and that's when you finally get it, when you know it for what it really is, just a tool. Works fucking well.
>>323188452
> KOTOR3 never ;_;
Just play Sith Warrior and Imperial Agent stories in TOR.
>>323186571
>>323212635
Just break the consoles and the entire thing is done in like 5 minutes.
>>323186510
http://www.the-jedi-masters.com
Obsdian LOTR game when?? It could deconstruct and the whole idea of the fairy tale just like K2 did for the idea of good vs evil.
>>323198910
there is a lightsaber in RC though.
>>323212239
>they die
You mean when Nihlus killed almost all the Jedi? Pretty sure they didn't die because of their lack of force connection but because of the shock of having the force taken away
>>323212310
But they're reliant on an external power the same way anyone is
You're always bound by physical reality and the force is part of that
I'm having a hard time explaining what i mean without sounding like a freshman philosophy student
>but it doesn't matter much since that potential is only useful for using the force
Sure it's a niche skill but the benefits are immense
>>323207120
I've done this every time
I made a canon exile this playthrough
How do I avoid boredom after halfway when playing KOTORs? Every single time I get sort of uninterested after first or second free roam part planet, and just quick run the rest. I can't even remember the point of the Wookie planet in KOTOR 1 because of this ´´.
>>323200556
Force awakens + lack of star wars license games leads people to arguably the best two Star Wars non-canon things ever released.
>>323207238
You could also choose Ya Zhen over Chai, and have a closed fist ugly toad inhabit Wild Flower
>don't help people all the time that makes them weak
>ok i guess you're right i'll consider what you said
>dark side points
>>323213301
I think you misunderstand, Nihilus literally killed the Jedi, he didn't render them incapable of feeling the Force as Kreia did.
Literally watch the final scene at the Dantooine academy and who will see that Kreia only took away their connection to the Force, as the Masters were about to do the same to the Exile. The Exile survived Malachor because he quickly deafened himself to the Force, which I imagine is quite visceral and shocking, and yet he didn't die.
It's reinforced in kotor 1 and 2 and the goddamn movies that Force sensitives rely on the Force to live.
Stop posting at any time because I was cordial before but now you're just shitposting.
>>323202991
You usually have to beat or come close to beating Nar Shadaa though because you need to be somewhat tough to beat those fucker Trandoshans that invade your ship
>>323205797
Why do people say this? I googled it and all they say is that it's made by people who dev'd Uncharted... Doesn't sound promising to me, have I missed something?
>>323215634
Especially if you forget to install the Nar Shaddaa fix and have to beat them 5 times
>>323203815
To add to this, you can actually get bao-dur some good influence boosts if you use the broken speeder in nar shaddah
>>323215634
I got Atton to be a Jedi at the beginning of Nar Shadaa with my quoted strat, just talk to those Twi'Leks wihtout Atton in your party. And then bring him to the Serocco territory and let him fix the speeder there. You'll gain major influence points and be able to convert him.
As for Kachmekt or whatever his name is, if you bumrush where he is on the ship it will open up a dialogue and you can intimidate him using darkside options to leave, its worth the alignment shift to end the fight without difficulty.
>>323215634
They aren't that bad. Unless you really fumble your character they're pretty easy to kill.
>>323216732
Shit I've played through like three times and had no idea you could either of those things.
>>323208290
You can, and imo its way more fun, you just have to act light sided with them for influence gains, The higher your influence they more theyll shift to whatever alignment you are. The biggest problem i had with this is even once they go dark side, theyll still get pissed at you if you say; kill someone with a now dark side handmaiden in party. Really disappointed me
So what's a good composition for the second party on the second Onderon visit? The last fight is the only part of the game this I can't seem to just blow through, best success was with 1-2 people down. I used was Mira, Atton and Kreia, with HK and Visas with me.
What's a good melee build for this game? I could only complete it by using a ranged build.
>>323218101
put points in strength
activate force speedare you stupid m8?
>>323217384
G0-T0 is surprisingly useful because he can stealth the minefield to disable the turrets as well as fuck around with the droids. It's like the only part of the game where he's a worthwhile party member.
Visas is usually good since she's going to be the strongest non-Kreia force user unless you min-max Disciple. In addition to the normal Force spam, she can use Beast Control on the Sith beasts if you teach it to her.
Third party member is just whoever your best tank is.
>>323218101
Max strength + two-weapon fighting + flurry + Force speed + two upgraded lightsabers. If you want more durability, put on some heavy armor and have Kreia cast speed.
>>323217384
anyone with a decently complementing skills and at least one or two jedi, 3 jedi is probably the best bet if you're having difficulty with the boss
>>323218446
I don't know anon, I could melee builds in other rpgs but I could never do one correctly in this one.
>>323218101
>I could only complete it by using a ranged build
>>323218684
how do you mean correctly? I mean sure maybe you can't minmax utterly without guides but how can you actually fail at being a Jedi Guardian? they're unkillable and do great single target damage
>>323218684
jedi guardian is literally piss easy, half the time I don't even use combat abilities and just use the basic attack because I like the animations
>>323205638
Source?
>>323218101
Light side. Max Dexterity+Finesse lightsaber fighting+ Double-bladed/ Duel lightsaber (if you have the crystals/ resources). Use Flurry. Get force speed+defense+Battle meditation. Congratulations, you now have a ridiculous defense making you almsot untouchable while being able to cast whatever other powers you want and being a walking blender that 1-shots most things. Start Sentinal. if you want more defense go Watchamn, otherwise Weaponmaster for more offense.
>>323218101
You mean melee with lightsabers? That's easy as fuck.
Using other melee weapons is harder, but not impossible.
Is Naga Sadow's Poison Blade even in KotOR 2?
>>323221649
there are some unique melee weapons but I don't know if that's one
>>323181698
>Obsidian desperately tries to get you to realise the lightsaber is at best a crutch and at worst a vastly inferior weapon for a more civilized age.
>Even work in a line deconstructing a jedi's almost phallic worship of lightsabers and the force to the point where they're shit without either.
>nobody buys it and immediately indulge in a free lightsaber party as the exile builds his/her power ranger squad of useless angsty fuckers while a crying kreia looks through the window of the ebon hawk.
Seriously though dual wield heavy mandalorian pistols with the right mods = vastly superior to anything a lightsaber can do.unless you take finesse:lightsabers, min/max DEX and INT so you have the skills to build a crazy lightsaber, the DEX to never get hit and always hit back, and force powers to pull off 8 attacks per roundI fucking broke this game
>>323221649
what possible reason could you have for going non-lightsaber melee?
at least a gunslinger is different than what you most often play as but a melee jedi is just the same as always sans crystals
>>323222121
In KotOR 1, using Naga Sadow's Poison blade is fun, and definitely viable to beat the game.
Not sure about the other blades. I didn't have as much luck with the ice blade, for instance, but I might need to try again.
I was just wondering if any of these kinds of unique and interesting weapons are in KotOR 2.
>I want your force sensitive babbys inside me
>>323218101
This is not the most fucked melee build you can make, but it is mine.
>Consider anything but DEX and CON dump stats. max DEX, spare CON
>weapon finesse: melee/lightsaber depending on what you want to use.
>Master two-weapon fighting
>Master Critical strike
>Master force speed
>Master Battle Meditation
>Master force immunity is nice but not needed.
>Master blaster disaster deflect, or whatever it's called. Also not necessary but very desirable for a non-lightsaber build.
>Create/equip the immunity: stun, fear, horror implant OR a dex modding implant
>Two keen melee weapons, build for massive criticals build for nothing but keen, massive criticals and anything with an already low crit range like the twilek lesbian blades or the Ryyk blades.
Crit at least 50% of the time. Never miss. Never get hit. If you get hit. you're so tough the pain just feeds your crit machine.
>
Hey, you fucked up anon. This thread is already halfway towards bump limit.
>Played Kotor2 before 1
I honestly think it works better like this. You don't know who this Revan dude is. Revan's just a godlike figure who's influence is felt throughout the game.
>>323222882
Right, only halfway. Might as well merge the two KotOR discussions that were going on (since the other was at 500), then move onto a new thread.
>>323218568
>>323164648
>Not corrupting her into the Dark Side with your dick
Twileks are for pleasure after all.
>>323203609
If you played KOTOR on Android, you could also use mods be creating an override folder, but no KSE.
They have been toying around with the idea of porting KOTOR 2 to mobile as well. No official announcement or anything, just something they wanted to get feedback from consumers. (http://www.aspyr.com/games/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii-the-sith-lords)
>>323204038
>>323204395
The second game even more so. While KOTOR has a traditional soundtrack with respectable battle themes, KOTOR 2 does that Wind Waker thing where audio cues respond to actual events ingame. But since it applies not only to combat, but to exploration and dialogue(dialogue being the better done of the three), and given that Peragus is a big empty space station, you can guess how it goes.
>>323222925
I played 2 before 1 as well. I didn't feel like I was missing much from not knowing what was going on in 1, and somehow, I didn't have the "twist" spoiled when I did actually play 1.
>>323221278
Kreia would have told him he was correct but a fool to remain decades hidden rather than change anything. Apathy and all that.
>>323186571
>decide to play kotor 2 again
>make good character, finally get off starting location
>leave laptop in car with game on it, car gets broken into and laptop stolen
Sigh
>>323203857
>Ron Perlman, uninterested in vidya, does jobs for the money.
>they made a character in a game about Jedi who doesn't give a shit about Jedi but is doing it for his own reasons look like him
>>323187970
They are bringing it up because Avellone is rubbing your nose in his logical fallacies by forcing you to have the conversation with that old cow right after that and all other edgy events.
Fuck Kotor 2 and fuck Darth Ayn Rand.
>>323198393
12yo spotted.
Stop crawling in your skin, your wound will never heal that way.
>>323211870
>dismissing an entire philosophy because you think it's edgy instead of discussing it to understand it better
So Darth Memereia is actually Jehova's Witness?
>>323222781
> But revan sama our love is forbidden!
>if you dont stop cumming inside me the council will exile us!
Seriously bioware
>>323195602
You just need to remove debuffer effects and cinematics
>>323187274
The point of Kreia was to tell her to fuck off at some points.
She's an old, bitter woman. Show some fucking spine and handle the situation as you please. If she doesn't like it she can go and handle it however she wants.The entire point of her character was to make you question whatever you're doing. She's Avelone's means of saying fuck Star Wars's simplistic morality.
>>323232853
This
