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Why am I hyped for this game
I've not even completed the first one, I've just played most of the way through a gorillion times
And that's why XCOM2 is based on us losing. As only like 20% of owners completed the game.
>>323149262
To be fair, I nearly completed it once but then my save died.
>>323149185
75$+tip
>>323149185
Snake tits?
because you're an impressionable sap
this game is an isis simulator with ayy instead of infidels
i'm going to enjoy the hell out of it
>>323150269
>you're only allowed to enjoy games when you finish them
I've put 150 hours into XCOM and only beaten it once. Then again, I've never played on a difficulty below Ironman Classic and tend to restart over the smallest things. The game gets a lot less fun the longer it goes on anyway; you just snowball out of control until you've got flying snipers one shotting the entire map in a single turn. XCOM is a game about the ride, not the destination.
>>323150587
>tend to restart over the smallest things
>plays ironman
you might as well be savescumming
>>323150359
>>323149185
The marketing got to you.
>>323150157
Gee Johnny, don't have a dime, sorry.
>>323151005
Funny, as you break global rules by posting furfag shit.
I also care about it other than snake tits, lots of people do. You should see the threads with "REMOVE SNEK" and bollocks.
Oh, right, I'm on /v/... So shitposting.
>>323151005
>nobody cares about it aside from snake tits.
That's hilariously untrue
>finished on classic
>don't have the balls to try impossible or ironman mode
I sure hope Firaxis has turned down the bullshit RNG.
The game looks liek shit so far and I am mad.
>4 classes, another locked behind pay wall
>2 pekrs per ranks, all OP as fuck again
>enemies randomly dropping everywhere (aka, the unfun part of XCOM)
>buggy camera (half the time you cant see the alien you are shooting because of obstacles)
>horrible UI (why the fuck did they add that "interference" and horrible analogue video feed)
>horrible enemy design choices
>horrible squad weapon choices (one hand revolver replaced the military handgun 2 hand firing, grenades instead of rockets)
>RNG in item drops and research
The only good things so far are soldier customization and mod support. I was so hyped in the ARG before they announced it.
>>323149185
Why haven't you finished it?
So does /v/ really play this on Iron Man? I save scum in pretty much any permadeath game like FE and Xcom
>>323151373
They check the ironman checkbox and they go great lengths to savescum anyway. Like Alt + F4 before your turn to restart last turn. Also restarting campaign is essentially the same as savescumming, you just savescum a longer period of time.
>>323151373
you are playing it wrong then senpai, the whole point of games like that is dealing with the consequences
>>323151337
Ohhhh you fucked up now boy.
I have never overwatched more than on that mission.
>>323151568
>you are playing it wrong
>Don't have fun unless it's the way I have fun
k.
>>323151337
>!337
HAAAAX
>>323151568
You do have a point there.. but what if in FE your MC dies? Do you restart the whole game?
I really hope they make it so that if you let go of an opportunity to save civilians some soldiers will lose moral and or quit
>>323151005
yiff in hell furfag
>>323150263
>>323151767
You're a terrorist group not an arm of the government, I'd imagine most of the civvies will just as gladly dob you in to the aliums as anything
>>323149262
ALSO the actual ending if you beat the game, the alien ship was just a scout ship, I feel like the developers knew people wouldn't beat the game or pay attention to the story (because its awful) so they just shoe horned in some alternate timeline bs.
This game looks good but the weapon attachment being only random drops is terrible, did they announce what the dlc's are going to be?
>>323151568
>move a guy one square so he can get los to visible enemy
>suddenly covered in chryssalids
I'd be more inclined to play Iron Man if enemies didn't get a free move the fucking second you encounter them.
>>323151738
well I havent played fire emblem, but in xcom, total war, mount and blade and other games where getting your ass handed to you does not mean a game over I just keep pushing no matter what a retarded mistake I made, its just more fun that way
>>323151182
>ocked behind pay wall
which one?
>>323152059
I meant like those encampments that are outside of ayy cities that get raided by advent
>>323152148
presumably MECs or something. They havent announced that yet.
>>323152148
He's retarded, they just haven't showed of the last class yet in previews
>>323152214
oh...thats stupid, the exo skeletons seem really lame as well to be honest.
>>323152069
This is why you pack explosive ordinance
>>323152318
Yeah, its pretty shit business to plan a class for DLC while the game was delayed and isnt even out yet.
>>323152259
The last class is PsiOp, it has been show by streamers
There is a class DLC comming in summer though
>>323149185
>being hyped for some shitty rng dice-rolling game
holy shit
>>323152059
Some civilians will walk by or run away from you, but some will immediately trigger an alert if you end a turn in their sight, so don't even trust the normal people.
>>323151182
So what is different with mecs/gene mods behind a paywall?
>>323152558
It depends of the map/mission
If is in Ayycities, they will report you
If is in slums and retaliation then they will ask for help
>>323152836
XCOM
>They wanted to make a full game
>no enough money/time
>they release EU
>wow its a fucking success
>few years after they release EW that have the cut content
XCOM2
>announce game
>delay game
>announce DLCs
It's interesting that if you do so many missions over a month Ayyvent steps up alot in taking you out.
Xcom2 is basically reverse xcom. You are hattacking spots,trying to keep a low profile while at the same time advancing to keep the edge.
>>323152214
It's probably not going to be MECs, EXO suits replace their functionality
>>323153116
It's Firaxis. Their games are just DLC vehicles.
>Dynamic base assaults are back
Oh baby
>>323153225
That doesnt make it okay. Plus XCOM had 1 DLC (not counting the hair dlc)
>>323153162
I dunno, its called "Shen's gifts" or something along that line. Sounds awfully MECish to me.
>>323153365
>That doesnt make it okay
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend the bastards. I'm still sore over Beyond Earth.
>>323153162
>>323153365
Probably be SHIVs. When needed to find meld to even think of cybernetics.
>>323153471
>Probably be SHIVs.
Is a comfirmed new class anon.
>>323153471
They said class. Like in promoted from rookie type.
>>323153526
But I like SHIVs.
>>323153225
This, but their DLC usually make the game fantastic. Civ IV, V and Xcom all come to mind. Just wait until they release the inevitable definitive edition
>>323153548
r2d2 has an actor inside of it no? So whats stopping you from putting rookies insdie of shivs?
>>323153612
I cant argue with an argument this solid honestly. I would like that.
>>323153526
Shiv with the brain of a mortally wounded x-com operator shoved inside it.
>>323149185
Ever since XCOM2 was announced i kinda want to get into the game.
What's the difference between XCOM:EU in consoles compared to PC besides graphical fidelity?
>>323149185
Will they fix the terrible movement and shooting mechanics or will it stay just like in the first game?
>>323153871
be more specific lad
>>323153871
If you're complaining about the gameplay in general then I don't think the turn based tactics genre is for you
>>323154192
>>323154293
I think he's talking about this
>>323152069
>>323154575
Well that's what the whole infiltration mechanic is about, you can scout the whole map and see all the enemies sight lines without popping a pod. They've also added a icon to show whether or not you'll have LOS on an enemy when you hover over a tile to move to.
>>323154293
I'm a die hard fan of the original XCOM, so i don't think you understood what i meant.
>>323154192
I don't like two things about the new XCOM. First is the dual movement/action thingy, where you can't just move a bit, or shoot and then back up or something. I understood what they wanted to do with this, but i just don't like it at all, especially with all the cover stuff and the enemies immediatelly jumping to cover the second you see them. It promotes cheesy tactics where you move everyone in one tight group so you don't aggro more than one enemy group at once.
Second thing is the shooting mechanic, which is complete bull when it comes to the cover stuff and hitting-missing. Few things:
- when you're in cover, it covers you from fire incoming from 180 degrees "in front" of the cover, which means that if a guy is wailing at you from dead center, he'll have the same cover penalty to hit you as a guy who's at, say, 60degree angle to you, which is dumb as fuck. Second problem is that other than the instance where an object completely conceals you from the enemy, objects don't do shit in terms of stopping enemy fire. Units will happily shoot through walls and hit the enemy if the internal algorithm told them they scored a hit, which is fucking bullshit. Moreover, when you miss, you pretty much miss in the same way - you shoot slightly up and to the side and even if you hit another enemy "graphically", the hit doesn't register because there's no such thing ass hit detection in this game - you shoot a target and you either roll hit or misss on the dice and that's that.
I think new XCOM is a nice game,it has a nice theme and feel, but to be really frank, old XCOM was leagues ahead in terms of accuracy/shooting/cover formulas, at least for me.
>>323154575
Im not sure but i think they changed the free turn stuff
>>323149185
I'm excited for it solely because its one of the only strategy games where you can play as actual insurgents doing insurgent things and participating in guerrilla warfare.
That's a flavor of TBS I haven't seen yet.
>>323154991
I answered you movement bit here
>>323154979
When it comes to shooting, I know they added shooting angles as an option in the Xcom expansion but the rest is just the reality of a game like this, the whole hit detection thing or people getting upset about missing close range shots has never bothered me, to me it's just a representation of what is happening, adding hitboxes would be pretty pointless and would just mean more resources would be taken than needed. To me that's just the reality of it being a 3D game rather than 2D
>>323154293
>If you're complaining about the gameplay in general then I don't think the turn based tactics genre is for you
top kek, more like if you tolerate the gameplay it's because it was your first tbt
>>323155387
>adding hitboxes would be pretty pointless and would just mean more resources would be taken than needed. To me that's just the reality of it being a 3D game rather than 2D
Christ, it's like some dark age thinking right here
>>323155837
It's essentially a board game man, imagine the soldier's just shooting into the sky if it hurts your autism that much
>>323155387
>I know they added shooting angles as an option in the Xcom expansion
Elaborate? I got it and the Long War and from what i'm seeing it works just the way it always did.
>adding hitboxes would be pretty pointless and would just mean more resources would be taken than needed
you what? What are you on about?
>To me that's just the reality of it being a 3D game rather than 2D
But old XCOM represented a 3D space anyway, just in 2D graphics, just like old Doom. Just because something is 3D doesn't mean it has to do a shit job at shooting formulas. If anything, current developer tools would make it easier for devs to code in hit detection and what not.
As for the movement thing, that only answers the enemy detection thing, but do they still move into cover, or did that change?
>>323155935
And the fact that you're satisfied with something that's incredibly shallow even by board game standards and somehow think adding more complex mechanics would use up too much resources is some dark age shit
XCOM is one of those games where you can fuck yourself and not realize it til half way through when you've wasted too much time, made worse with Ironman.
that's what i like about it, it's strategic and tactical.
you can fuck yourself in RTS games too by wasting resources on the wrong thing, can't think of many games that are unforgiving on the long-term.
>>323156047
http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Wave
>>323156289
>http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Wave
I might have missed it, thanks. Still, only a dressing on a wound, really.
>>323151005
>Nobody cares about this game
Could you be any more wrong? For a lot of people on this is the only game they give a shit about this year besides Ace Combat 7 and Dragon's Dogma coming to PC.
XCOM is the game that made me realize /v/ is mostly just blustering casualfags
>people bitching nonstop about how they keep missing a 99% chance to hit no matter how many times they reload
2 is going to cause so much more butthurt with the mission timers.
>>323156701
XCOM is a fantastic look into the way the human mind shits cognitive dissonance
>Conveniently forgets all the sub 40% shots the player hits
>Misses one 95% shot
>OMFG THIS GAME CHEATS
>>323156498
Oh fuck Dragon's Dogma's coming to PC? I've been out of the loop
>>323157310
http://store.steampowered.com/app/367500/
>>323150359
I'm looking forward to big internet fights centred around clickbait articles about just how terrible it is that somebody made an ISIS mod.
>>323157906
Who would say it's horrible? I mean progressives like ISIS. Worst they would do is just call you an islamophobe.
>>323156225
Those are the Dark Ages anon.
Firaxis had such sales and backing but still couldn't make game in engine that rivals in quality slavic duct taped wonder.
I hope XCOM2 is good but it still breeds a legion of morons with low standards.
>>323150872
>Cologne
Not funny anymore.
>>323158551
>The muslims are the true aliens
>>323158551
Twice as funny in hindsight actually.
>>323154991
You realize there's an option called Aiming Angles that fixes exactly what you're talking about, right?
The hit/miss animations are also a really simple issue that I expect to be fixed in the new one. Not sure if it's been displayed in gameplay footage yet.
>>323159292
It's already been mentioned in thiss thread, but it doesn't do away with the plethora of other problemss in the engine and mechanics themselves that have already been mentioned.
>dat footage from last night
>Beagle getting absolutely destroyed
>>323151182
>4 classes, another locked behind pay wall
5 fifth one was announced already it's a dedicated psi class
Also
>Pay wall
It's a DLC class chances are it will be able to easily break the game
>Horrible Weapons and Alien designs
WellThatsYourOpinionMan.jpg
>>323160401
>>Pay wall
>It's a DLC class chances are it will be able to easily break the game
>>323160401
>psi class
no man, its not psi. But its my fault, I said 5th class. Its actually 6th class.
>It's a DLC class chances are it will be able to easily break the game
Thats even worse.
>WellThatsYourOpinionMan.jpg
Just try and tell me, that you are older than 13 years and think that little girl firing huge revolver with one hand while casually holding sniper rifle in the other isnt horrible design. Also spandex mutons, big daddy lookalike and gay floaters.
>>323160556
>chances are it will be able to easily break the game
IT'S THE GODDAMNED MEC CLASS, OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BREAK THE GAME
>b-but it hasn't been confirmed
Then what the fuck would SHEN's last gift be? A damned VR headset?
>>323151182
>4 classes, another locked behind pay wall
There are five classes on launch and one planned, it's not locked behind a paywall when it's not even finished
>enemies randomly dropping everywhere (aka, the unfun part of XCOM)
Wrong, they patrol and it's been proven already through the Beagle stream
>RNG in item drops and research
You're complaining about features designed to reduce metagaming and keep the game fresh no matter how much you play it. Well done.
You're talking out your fucking ass.
>The game gets a lot less fun the longer it goes on anyway; you just snowball out of control until you've got flying snipers one shotting the entire map in a single turn.
This was a noticeable problem in EU, the game tends to just become trivial and finishing it isn't really worth the time. I don't know if Firaxis plans to address it, the same thing happens in their civ games. We already had mods to improve that and will have again, but it'd be nice if the base game could keep itself interesting.
>>323160703
>Just try and tell me, that you are older than 13 years and think that little girl firing huge revolver with one hand while casually holding sniper rifle in the other isnt horrible design
Yes because my autism isn't advanced enough for it to tickle muh anus
>Also spandex mutons
Mutons used to originally wear spandex
>big daddy lookalike
Only design I dislike
>gay floaters
I'm failing to see the problem they look angelic for a reason same for the Mutons theres a reason why everything looks different
>>323160703
>and think that little girl firing huge revolver with one hand while casually holding sniper rifle in the other isnt horrible design.
The weapons are huge for both men and women so you can actually see them at a distance. It's called board game aesthetics.
>Also spandex mutons
Pic related, you're complaining about designs that have stuck since day one.
>big daddy lookalike and gay floaters.
The Andromedon is based on NASA space suits and the idea that they captured the staff aboard the ISS. You're just being a nitpicking fuck, especially with the Guardian.
>>323161034
From what I've seen, jetpacks don't exist in XCOM 2.
>>323158551
A R M L E N G T H
>>323160813
You know whats not even finished? The game. And they already let you buy a new class. If thats not paywall, I dont know what is.
>through the Beagle stream
Not watching that shitter. But devs said multiple times that reinforcements will arrive and drop randomly via dropship.
>You're complaining about features designed to reduce metagaming and keep the game fresh no matter how much you play it. Well done.
Yes, I am. When I research alien weaponry I want to know what I am getting out of it. Instead of 60% a gun and 40% grenade. You know, so you can plan ahead. Like in strategy, like in not just click whatever the fuck and getting away with it like in XCOM in anything under Ironman.
>>323161117
>It's called board game aesthetics.
Good try, my friend. Now go an look how they did firing a secondary weapon in the last XCOM game. Put gun on your back, get in stance, fire multiple shots with both hands.
>Pic related
Yes, its sure is great idea to take design choices from pixel game from 1990 in your reimagination sequel in 2016.
>The Andromedon is based on NASA space suits
Nice back story for big daddy lookalike. It doesnt change how stupid it looks and how gay floaters are.
>>323149185
Is it because you get paid to be hype over it?
>>323150702
spot the fucking retard
>>323161425
I do it for free.
>>323151510
>>restarting campaign is essentially the same as savescumming
wtf am i reading
>>323161445
restarting campaign is essentially savescumming. You just savescum a longer period of time.
>>323161720
You are reading the same thing I am posting again.
>>323161362
>You know whats not even finished? The game. And they already let you buy a new class. If thats not paywall, I dont know what is.
The class does not come out until July/August. If you're seriously saying the developers should delay the game AGAIN after already being pushed back by three months then you're an idiot. You're one of those retards who thinks every time someone gets a new idea they should immediately put it into the product and never finish it.
>But devs said multiple times that reinforcements will arrive and drop randomly via dropship.
Wrong faggot, Advent Commanders call them in and they blatantly arrive via cutscene.
>Good try, my friend. Now go an look how they did firing a secondary weapon in the last XCOM game. Put gun on your back, get in stance, fire multiple shots with both hands.
The only class in XCOM 2 with a pistol is the Sniper and they removed the weapon swap because it was slow as fuck for no reason. You activate pistol abilities and they pull out the pistol. You're complaining about such a petty thing I can't take you seriously.
>Complain about alien designs
>Actually those designs were used in the classic games
>DURR WHO CARES IT LOOKS DUMB
So you simply don't care about XCOM new or old, fuck off mate.
>>323161362
>You know whats not even finished? The game. And they already let you buy a new class. If thats not paywall, I dont know what is.
It's a planned DLC
As in they plan to make a DLC with a new class
As in you will still have to wait like 4 or 5 months
By that same logic Mecs and gene mods were behind a paywall according to you
>>323149185
iktfb, I've been putting off building a computer better than my current shittop but it's very tempting
>>323161445
Is it you? Restarting over small things is just the scenic route of savescumming.
>>323161771
>You're one of those retards who thinks every time someone gets a new idea they should immediately put it into the product and never finish it.
No, I am one of those guys that think that every time someone gets a new idea they shouldnt immediately try to sell it to me before launching their game.
>Wrong faggot, Advent Commanders call them in and they blatantly arrive via cutscene.
How is that not the same thing?
>You're complaining about such a petty thing I can't take you seriously.
I like that you are no longer defending it as you realized you are in the wrong and instead try to belittle it in an attempt to salvage the situation. Its like saying that getting ass raped by a huge nigger in prison isnt a big deal, its just kind of a sex and people tend to like sex.
>So you simply don't care about XCOM new or old, fuck off mate.
Yes, I dont care about reusing shit that is bad. I want a new game that is good.
>>323161836
As in you pay them now.
>By that same logic Mecs and gene mods were behind a paywall according to you
I already talked about how is it different (to summarize, the announcement/pay time)
>>323161761
So you're saying if a person ever starts the game again, say if they beat the game, they're save scumming? You need better bait.
>>323162171
No it isn't since you need a perfect start to play ironman on imposible.
>>323162208
>How is an enemy using an ability that uses up a turn not the same as enemies randomly appearing in the map with no notification at all
Everybody stop responding to this retard, he's blatantly baiting. Just filter him.
>>323162270
You need to get out of your mememind and think about it. What is savescum? Its reloading prior save file in an attempt to rectify previously made choice. Yes, restarting a campaign because you didnt like the outcome is the same as restarting the mission in bronzeman because you didnt like the outcome of the mission and its the same as restarting a turn because you didnt like hte outcome of it. Its just longer period of time.
>>323162402
I never said anything about appearing with no notification or it being random chance. I said that the reinforcements come to random place via dropship.
>Just filter him.
this cant be real.
>>323162320
It was inferred from his post he was restarting because something minor (i.e. perfectly salvageable) happened on classic or above, not that he was essentially rerolling from an abject/untenable position.
>>323162552
>Still dropping his shitty bait
>Doesn't know about extensions
Fuck off back to Reddit.
>>323162552
*yawn*
oh hey guys can you come save me before the aliens kill me?
>>323162208
>I already talked about how is it different (to summarize, the announcement/pay time)
>"Whats the difference between an expansion and DLC" the post
And it seems like your main gripe is how you can pay for it now which would be the dumbest reason to be upset
>>323161761
Were you born stupid or did you have an accident that made you this retarded?
The point of savescumming is to keep your progress up to that point without consequences; deleting all your progress is the complete opposite of that
How come XCOM is popular while all other hardcore games are shunned in the west?
>>323162668
>>323162686
Why is it that everytime you people cant defend against a criticism you come up with the fish meme?
>>323162798
What I dont like is that they already planned/announced DLCs. That shit is never a good sign. It never ended well for a the playerbase.
>>323162872
The point of ironman is to live with your mistake. If you click on the ironman button and you restart whatever, you broke the ironman. Doesnt matter if you restarted turn, mission, day or whole campaign.
>>323160731
a crate of dragon dildos.
>>323163010
What other hardcore games?
>>323163010
Because Westerners have a sick fascination with being on the defending side of an invasion. It iswasan exotic and unknown feeling for them.
>323163223
You haven't earned a (you).
>>323163223
How do you restart something that didn't start in the first place?
>>323149185
Whats pissing me off so hard:
>Buy the game
>Dont buy the expansion
>Play the game
>Its great
>Want to buy the expansion
>The expansion alone costs more than the original game but if the game and expansion are bundles it costs less
That doesnt make any sense ffs
>>323162552
>ts reloading prior save file in an attempt to rectify previously made choice. Yes, restarting a campaign because you didnt like the outcome is the same as restarting the mission in bronzeman because you didnt like the outcome of the mission and its the same as restarting a turn because you didnt like hte outcome of it. Its just longer period of time.
Ok it's bait, but it's so shitty and poorly thought that I'm just gonna fall for it. When you restart a campaign you implicitly lose that campaign.
Now please calm your tits and go play somevideo games.
>>323163223
>What I dont like is that they already planned/announced DLCs
Name a single developer that during development never thought to themselves "This would be neat to add on later" The only difference is they are fully committed to adding it which one can easily reason is due to the projected success of the game they have more room to consider what can and can't be DLC and just like anything else you can choose not to buy it
You are being really nitpicky over nothing
>>323163586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A19q7rysLs
>>323163586
Look around for legit keysellers, they exist. Get base game and season pass for 50% of legit price.
>>323163010
Because it's not hardcore at all
>>323163390
Where the hell is that from?
>>323164079
I assume Beagle modded xcom2
>>323164079
Beagle's stream from last night.
>>323150263
I wonder if there will be sexy snake mods around.
>>323164164
He did, he added more enemies to each pod and increased their health along with shortening build times to show more during his stream.
After a lot of failed campaigns he took the health and pod size off.
>>323163817
Your view is very optimistic and if its like that, that is great. But just for a second, consider they planned it for the game in the first place and then cut it just so they could sell it to you as DLC. I mean come on. This is happening all over and firaxis are DLC jew kings.
>>323163640
If I restart a turn, did I implicitly lose the turn? Did I lose the campaign? If savescumming just implicitly losing a campaign and then restarting and both me and aliens doing exact same thing as last campaign that I lost? Is that how the whole implication thing work? Also if you put just a fraction of effort you give the fish meme and put it into trying to see the issue from my side, it would be just perfect. Look, I dont care if you restart campaigns, I do it too. But you should know its not better than savescummers. Its just more time consuming.I hate video games
>>323164435
I still think it was pretty retarded for his part to bump the dificulty the first time he played
>>323164079
Here you go, over 8 hours of the first hour of XCom 2. Also some more hours of the rest of the game:
twitch /miss_jamball/v/34097623
>>323164542
Wasn't his first time, he had been playing the build since last month I think.
>>323164542
Well it wasn't his first time playing mate.
He has had the preview build for weeks like other big name youtubers.
And after he took off his difficulty increases he started steamrolling through the aliens so it was a double-edged sword.
>>323149185
>I've not even completed the first one, I've just played most of the way through a gorillion times
are you me?
>>323164542
It wasn't the first time he played. He played before several times on his own on Legendary and noticed that he snowballed hard. So when he demonstrated, he bumped the difficulty up a little more to prevent that.
>>323164615
>>323164667
>>323164696
That doesn't make it any better.
So did they reveal the 5'th class? The game is awfully close to release.
Also I want MEC's and alien/human hybrids. Where's my fucking variety Firaxis? I don't want dude with gun, dude with shotgun and dude with rifle and sword.
>>323149185
>I've not even completed the first one
Let me guess, its a RNG shitfest and its super duper unfair even on easy?
>>323165580
Yes. 5th class is Psi Operative. It works completely different from other classes, watch ChristopherOdd's video about it.
Its a welcome change. In XCOM2012 psi was basically just a buff to an already good characters, now they can go completely wild with it and have some really interesting skills.
If its any indication, Rift is one of the least interesting skills in their skilltree.
>>323149185
>I've not even completed the first one
![tbrrbJh[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7aAqtI1.jpg "tbrrbJh[1].png")
ULLA
>>323166643
The graphics in XCOM2 looks way too "busy". I wish they'd go back to the simplistic style of EU.
>>323152430
I swore I saw psionics being available to a regular one of the 4 other classes. Would it be locked to the psiops or would psiops just be psionics on steroids?
>>323167515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjE_JSqLt0Y
Found this on the psi ops. Kinda weird they're using an amplifier or whatever but I guess they look good.
>tfw complete wipe on the base defence
I can't hold it
There's just too many fucking mechtoids and my soldiers are all using popguns.
>>323168113
Forgot to keep them well equipped?
>>323168264
I thought I still had plenty of time. I don't think I can actually do it, my people are just too weak
>>323168113
Just keep at it. Though there is a fucking ton of them to boot.
>>323168045
Thanks bud.
>>323149185
because you're a fucking normie who is hopping on the fotm bandwagon
What was once a nice niche series is now going to be turned into a shitty memegame.
Post moments that make you cum buckets.
>>323168506
And then you missed.
Did they ditch the random classes?
That was one of my major pet peeves with the previous one. There were times when I spend an hour or longer reloading a save until I got the class I wanted.
>>323168450
normie is the normalfag word for normalfag
>>323168908
Yes and no.
If the rookie gets promoted in battle is random
If you use the training room you can select what class the rookie will get
You can also reclass a soldier
>>323168450
>xcom
>niche
Dude, what?
>>323168908
get the commander's choice mod.
>>323168908
Why dont you just research for yourself? Anyways the answer is mixed.
You can train rookies to become a specific class, but if you take rookies to a mission they get promoted to a random class.
So if there's someone you really want to be a sniper you can do that, but early on you're going to get some RNG class choices.
But the whole "get 7 supports in a row" thing is basically impossible now.
Did you preorder it yet?
I am thinking about it.
>>323169178
I did. 65 europoors isn't really a lot considering how much enjoyment I will most likely get out of this.
Preordering is cancer though, I dont recommend anyone doing it. This is the first game in years I've preordered
>>323168807
>He thinks you can miss 100%'s
99%'s yes, 100%'s are always hits on the other hand.
...I just hope we'll never have situations like this in X-Com 2 though, holy shit I hated thin men dropping in on some missions and them stacking RIGHT. ON. YOUR. DUDES.
>>323169586
>he never missed one 100% shot
just keep playing m8
>>323152060
Yeah the ayy played soft in XCOM:EU/EW
They wanted you to get to their ship and try to bring it down, it was all a test, to find another species with powerful psi powers (Sectoids have implants and don't count).
>>323169586
In XCOM 2, ADVENT reinforcements drop a flare on the round before they deploy. That gives you a heads up.
>>323158551
>mfw imagining how asshurt ayyrabs will be when 9/10 of the women that got pregnant get abortions
>>323168045
They used an amp in the original game, too. In this one, it's probably there to make the fact that the unit is a Psi Op visible at a glance.
>>323165707
>can't beat the game on easy
m8...
It's going to be good, especially if you like turn based tactical games.
I'm a bit worried that it will get a bit repetitive like EU (very similar successive maps, not enough enemy variation). But the AI seems to be a lot better in this one, maps looks pretty good as well. Price for base game and dlc is pretty steep though.
I know I'm going to rage from the beginning with all the mind controlling, at least it looks like you don't start off by shooting friendlies.
>>323149185
finishing xcom is boring. but it's just fun to play for a bit.
>>323170496
There is no chance of the maps repeating as much as in EU, now that they're assembled from pieces. And they've already shown a ton of enemies. I'm just hoping there are still some new ones left that they haven't shown.
>>323170496
For me it's the hype of direct modding support that'll get me.
If it's not in the game, there's chances are ways to work it into the game, and you might not need someone else to make such mods possible.
I already know my first mod I'm aiming to do is depending on what's in the game already, aim so that if you live capture aliens, you can collar them and make them expendable units. Depending on how hard it would be to implement them as PC's ( as they ARE usable in the multiplayer mode, so the player can control them in some fashion ), maybe construct a faux skill tree for a few of them and the like so you can keep them around if you want to.
That's just making use of what the game will already have at release as well, and not directly 'adding' anything directly new, just changing accessibility by a few notches. I'm pretty damn sure we'll see another 'Long War' crop up, and a lot more 'supportive' mods too that add perhaps new map cells/tiles, and even new foes over time like game such as Dungeons of Dredmor, Fallout 4, and the like have seen when modding was supportive and easy to implement.
I'm torn on buying this guys. On the one hand I fucking loved the first one + all the DLC, on the other hand it's bullshit they're charging for content that's not even out on release for this one.
I want it, but if I buy deluxe I'm essentially complicit with their shitty marketing strategy. What do?
>>323160156
>and now we say goodbye to advent officer number 1
>>323171037
Well, you can always just buy the game, and then buy the DLC when it's actually out. Don't really see the problem here.
>>323171037
Never pre-order games, and never buy season passes. No exceptions.
>>323170489
did you even read my post?
Ive had friends who told me its unfair bullshit even at easy
I beat it at nomal and took me like 16 hours
>Psi-ops can learn up to 16 psi abilities.
>can give a squadmate another turn
>can take fatal damage and live with 1 hp once per mission
>can be immune to explosive damage
>>323170994
>they ARE usable in the multiplayer mode, so the player can control them in some fashion
You don't even need to look at MP to know that. You can mind control organic enemies and hack non-organics, that means that all the menus etc. for controlling them have to be in place.
>>323151373
I only alt+f4 on absolute bullshit like missing 97% chance shots
The rest I deal with
>>323171298
Your friends must be game reviewers.
>>323171349
You can generally get some OP shit. There's an ability soldiers can get randomly that makes them flat immune to the next attack whenever they kill something.
>>323171037
>Buy base game
>lose out on $5 bucks and the soundtrack you could just DL off of a mega link for free anyway if you feel by October that DLC is worth the price or not.
Wow, 5 fucking dollars, woe is me. If the DLC is worth it, you'll chances are still be able to buy all three for the $20 pricetag later like a ton of other games that pull this stunt ( SR3/SR4, Borderlands 2, ect ect. ). So just hold out if you rather not buy into what is pretty much vaporware, and if it's really worth your time, buy it after the fact. The modding alone though should prove to be quite supportive and filling even without the official DLC though.
>>323171546
It sounds like XCOM 2 will be a complete joke at higher levels.
>>323171361
Less controlling, more say being able to interact with their equipment and the like. Change what guns they use, and perhaps fiddle around with their skills. There was a bit of that in X-Com 1's multiplayer, though only ever so little in turn, and no one really 'banked' onto it at that given how hard it was to fiddle around with it beyond an all out overhaul ( you couldn't do a small mod without breaking everything else trying to mod it ). I'm hoping X-Com 2's a lot better in that area.
>>323171680
Kind of depends on how the enemies scale up. But yeah, I expect that if you know your shit, you'll eventually be able to pretty much break the game in half.
Not that it was all that different before, mind.
I didn't beat the first one. Not because I didn't have time or got stuck, but because I got seriously bored. I'm a fan of the original DOS ones and the new one just felt like a console game with no real depth. All the cool features that made the original great were gone and all we had were dice rolls on the entire campaign.
Did enjoy it. Restarted numerous times but eventually just got bored once you discover the entire Overwatch spamming wins the game.
>>323171890
>got bored once you discover the entire Overwatch spamming wins the game
The sequel will be full of timed mission so playing it safe with turtle spam is not viable.
>>323171857
>>323171680
>Suggesting that's not half the fun
I can't be the only one who enjoys having the hard as fuck starts, but by the end I'm the one raping the other side.
>>323170994
Yeah agreed, the modding could be amazing. Wish I had more free time, I would get into map making.
>>323171680
You'll wish you didn't make your units that good when enemies start mind controlling them and wipe out your own.
>>323168506
That the best you can do? Like the crit percentage even matters in that situation
I really hope the last mission involves ramming the Avenger into something big and then storming the place with everyone you have.
>>323172928
Should we go FARTHER BEYOND THE LIMITS?
>>323171298
you have to literally not use cover or research to lose on easy
>>323172984
I'm calling it right now, the shadowed guy who talks to you through the viewscreen going 'WELCOME BACK COMMANDER, THE WORLD NEEDS YOU' will turn out to be an alien forgery in order to draw out the remaining resistance elements, it'll then disable the base and before forcing you to make a desperate last strike against their mother fortress on Earth, regardless of how ready you are.
![1452264612203[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kbwROCT.jpg "1452264612203[1].jpg")
TRAITOR
>>323173572
EMPRAH
Diminishing returns was a mistake. Take a look at Shen's face.. Like it's totally reasonable.
>>323170654
We haven't seen ethereals yet. Given how ridiculous the lesser enemies are with psi powers now, I wonder how they'll shape up.
>>323173705
>That price
>That amount of Engies
Holy shit I'm dying
>>323166181
To be fair though, a lot of us are like that.
I own, way too many games for me to complete them all.
Sometimes I get all the way near the end and stop and play something else.
I did for SMTIV for instance. I stopped playing because I wanted to make sure I did the neutral path first and just didn't get back to it.
>>323173705
>110k cost
>2k engineers
thats bullshit
>>323173942
Your own PSI operatives can already be fucking unholy, so yeah, Ethereals will probably be absolute monsters.
Fuck the base defense
>>323171212
That officer should have gotten a field promotion, the amount of fire he survived.
>>323173705
you can see it as getting closer and closer to material costs/administration with other space agencies
>>323150872
Muslims are aliens?
so what is this thing? an outsider variant?
I wish Bradford would stop saying "status confirmed" so often.
>>323162764
Go away not!Clayface. This ain't working on me.
Will someone stream the game and play with /v/? This feels like one of those games that could be a lot of fun like this.
>>323164170
I'm still disappointed that EXALT wasn't literally evil XCOM with plasma and EXALT M.E.C.s.
The game would've been even more challenging this way. Instead all EXALT missions were casual when compared to any mission that involved aliens.
>>323173705
I'll miss Shen's face, how can they even think gadget girl daughter with an annoying voice can replace him
>>323174402
its clearly just a designer chair
>>323173572
NO ADVENT. YOU ARE THE TRAITORS.
HELL, YOU ARE NOT EVEN HUMAN ANYMORE.
>>323175075
ayy lmao
>>323174940
The same reason they added a female alien
SJW infiltration
>>323175165
Indeed.
Can't wait for XCOM2 and to unleash a hailstorm of counter-propaganda.
>>323175165
>>323175075
LIES! The Visitors are our friends!
>>323175490
I agree.
>>323153752
Bring it on.
And it would work nicely with new 'bring back your dead dudes back to the skyranger' mechanic.
Be hyped for this!
http://strawpoll.me/6364779
>>323175521
I didn't realize Citan Uzuki was going to be in the new XCOM. Does this mean Xenogears takes place in the same universe?
I've played a lot of rpgs and strategy games. I've played Fallout 1 & 2, the original Xcom, Terror from the deep, apocalypse, Silent storm, Jagged Alliance 2. And this game SERIUOSLY have a wonky RNG.
>>323175490
>>323175521
Too late. We know the truth. I know the truth.
There is no stopping us. You took away the peoples' nationalities, but XCOM soldiers will display their ancestry with pride and dignity.
Watch the shadows ADVENT scum, for XCOM will not rest until your Vichy Earth will fall.
>>323175785
>Your face when Shen's final gift is aM.E.C.
>>323175785
>>323153752
Apparently the class added by the shen DLC is called "Lazarus", so you may not be far off.
>>323175521
I like what Mr Tnimniht is saying!
>>323176007
That's great.
>>323174428
STATUS CONFIRMED, ALL HOSTILES NEUTRALIZED
STATUS CONFIRMED, MISSION SUCCESSFUL
>>323176000
With Shen brain and voice with it
>Our boys had the best equipment available... but I guess it just wasn't enough.
>>323174003
>us
we are not casuals you faggot
Boy i sure hate those ADVENT forces, tell me about our plans on taking them down, preferably in details.
>>323176631
>Shen will live like a ghost in the machine of every MEC
>and provide snarky commentary
>>323176491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1qLCGbYELw
>>323176631
His daughter would be proud.
>>323176725
The latter would be the best part.
>>323175196
Well if they were going to go that route they could have at least given her a ching-chong accent. Kind of lame that all three advisors have American accents in this game.
I've completed XCOM Enemy Unknown a bunch of times and XCOM Enemy Within once. But now whenever I try to do a run through XCOM Enemy Within again, my game crashes when the XCOM HQ attack happens. I've tried 3 campaigns so far and all of them ended there because the game keeps crashing. I guess XCOM 2 is why they havnt fixed the glitch yet
>>323176000
>implying Shen's digital consciousness isn'ta computer game
>yfw last mission is bradford sacrificing himself for the greater good
>>323176791
I really hope voice mods are the first ones to be added, i want my ANGRY GERMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbZZ6qur-8
>>323152069
What killed Iron Man for me was the piss poor UI and how many bugs are still in the final build of the game.
>>323177109
Maybe it is something to do with your machine.
In my case it works smoothly.
>>323177197
Implying he won't breakADVENT computer games.
Also wondering about Vahlen. Will she be in here as a ADVENT collaborator? Or as someone forced into their service?
>>323177216
Nah. Would like him to get a good ending.
>>323177514
>would like him to get a good ending.
the only way he can die is in an act of heroism they can't make him die like a bitch after winning
>>323177216
He still has a group photo of himself, Vahlen, and Shen sitting in a display case in the avenger's bar.
>>323174239
Explains a lot.
>>323177514
>Nah. Would like him to get a good ending.
What good ending could Bradford possibly have? Seems like he's got no family. The Commander is probably the closest thing he has to a friend, and he only knew him for a month. His entire life is the XCOM project, there is no happy ending for him.
>>323170654
>maps looks pretty good
Sure about this? Are all maps going to be procedurally generated? Despite potentially repeat their appearance, designed maps are objectively better. This is one of my main concerns for the game.
