>It is because you wereafraid
what did she mean by this?
doesn't matter not canon
>>322931197
I figure she expected the Exile to stand up against the masters herself. When she didn't, Kreia fell to the dark side, and when the Exile bested her at Malachor she had proof that her teaching had made the Exile strong, stronger than her. And that is what Kreia means at the end, when she says the Exile has saved her.
is this sheev 2.0? I never watched star wars
Exile didn't cut himself off from the Force because he thought it was better to live without it or because he didn't agree with the Jedi anymore, he was just afraid to be connected to the Force after being exposed to so much death at Malachor.
>>322931197
>no option NOT to fight Kreia
Thanks Obsidian
>>322931987
It's not their fault they were rushed.
>>322931987
>no option to space Kreia at the first opportunity
thanks Obsidian
>>322932805
>you will never EVER live in a reality in which both VTM:B and KOTOR2 were utterly, fully completed
>>322932997
It hurts too much, anon
>>322932805
>>322932997
Has obsidian ever made and released a full game?
ONE
>>322932997
Those fuckers have great Star Wars prequels too!
>>322934206
PoE?
>>322934256
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>322934659
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>322932990
Well Kreia did tell you that if she dies you die
Sure she was lying and it would have been cool if you could do it anyways, but it makes a bit more sense that the Exile would rather lug her around for a while than drop dead
>>322934896
THREEyou are dead kiddo
>>322932990
But then how would you figure out that Star Wars is for retarded manchildren with simple manichean world views?
>>322931563
Nah, she's just Avellone's mouthpiece saying Star Wars is crap.
>>322932997
New Vegas too
>Just spent the past two days trying to install every mod I need/want for KOTOR 2
>tried installing a Revan Robes mod along with a cape fix to take away the retarded clipping
>one thing led to another and now every thing is fucked up and keeps crashing, and I am so confused as to how to actually get this robe mod working that I was forced to reinstall the entire game and start from scratch.
>>322936709
literally all the worthwhile mods are on the steam workshop, all 4 of them
>>322931197
She thought that the Exile was strong enough to turn away from the Force, but it was really the fear and pain of a thousand dead comrades that created the wound in the Force that the Exile was
>>322937421
is that actually what it was? because i seriously never wrapped my head around that part
>>322931463
Neither is the new movie since it was made by Disney.
A movie with the Star Wars name doesn't immediately make it canon.
>>322939041
are you actually retarded
>>322931463
Who the fuck cares about canon? Like how stupid do you have to be to give a shit about that? Some fictional stories are now more fictional? Wow, totally changed my life.
>>322937421
Can one genuinely turn away from the Force
>>322931197
>talking with her on the Ebon Hawk for the first time
>no matter what I say it's "hurr YOU ARE NOT LISTENING!" or "Pathetic Jedi teaching derp"
This bitch needs to stfu
pic unrelated
>>322939883
It only really matters if it means a bunch of stories will now override and take a shit all over the direction the old series took but since it's set 4000 years before the OT, there's literally no reason to be aggravated by it since nothing will bother overwriting it
>>322940120
Because you likely aren't listening or picking answers she thinks are pathetic. There's a way to talk to Kreia and not be berated by her
>>322936709
>KOTOR 2
>Revan robes mod with a cape fix
Please, provide links.
I am fucking tired with having prequel Jedi robes.
>it will be 9 years before another good Star Wars game has even a chance of being made
>given that the sequels/spin offs will be finished in 5 years, the main hype will have died down
>an extra 4 years of EA being EA, piled on top of 6 years of EA being EA, will kill any residual hype
>mfw the new movies could have lead to a new golden age, but EA getting the rights means we will almost certainly never see a good Star Wars game ever again
>>322940219
he's got a point on that one.
It's one of the few times when the complaint of there being no right answer is legitimate.
>>322940219
Tell me. When she asks about why I fought the Mandalorian wars EVERY answer gets me that snark. You can't please her.
>>322940430
Not that guy but are you actually complaining about a lonely old woman being unhappy about everything and impossible to please? That's how they are in real life.
>>322940121
Unless they decide to put Revan in the movies
>>322940773
I haven't had a lot of old women in my life. I was raised by my grandfather, a college football coach that was forever disappointed I didn't like football.
>>322940430
>>322940773
Kreia is literally being contrarian in order to make you think about your actions logically instead of just picking them because they're lightside/darkside
That's exactly her character. All you need to do to make her like you is take her advice into account. You don't even need to agree with her, just always end your conversations with "I will consider what you have told me" or whatever
>>322940931
Won't happen, they'd have to bend over backwards to include him and for what purpose?
>>322941226
You're a fucking disgrace.
>>322941317
Well he's retconned, so if they get stuck for a new bad jedi idea they may just go ahead and throw him in there
>>322936198
I could listen to Jolee
>>322941317
Not necessarily.
When they added Darth Big Guy into the new canon, they just established he existed, but made it clear that they were retconning the novels/comics in doing so.
>the best SW characters of all time are now non-canon
Fuck this gay earth.
>>322942038
Hey you're on /v/ too
>>322939893
>people love Han Solo
>fuck Luke
>lets make a Han Solo character
>okay
>give him a lightsaber
I hate Star Wars fans
>>322942670
but why? you have all their best interactions in KOTOR and KOTOR II. Any newer ones would undoubtedly be utter shit, like HK-47 in SWTOR
>>322931987
If the Exile don't fight her she would stab herself so both them die. You don't have a "no fight" option because the exile never had that option to begin with (unless you wanted a "game over" choice)
>RAUUUUUUUUGH
What did Sheev mean by this?
Is there any video game character who could beat Obi-Wan?
>>322942863
That's unfair. Literally everything in TOR without exception is shit.
Wanna replay KOTOR1 being a good guy and turning into Dark Side after the Revan reveal. Can I do that withouth killing my crew? I don't exactly remember why you had to kill mission and Jolee on Rakata Prime.
![south-park-the-stick-of-truth[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U42uppB.jpg "south-park-the-stick-of-truth[1].jpg")
>>322934206
Yes
>>322942956
but at the end the Exile does kill her but they didn't both die?
>>322942670
I'm pretty sure any games released after a certain date are canon? Thereby, SWTOR's new faggy expansion is canon and canonises the "meat bag"?
>>322943175
They wouldn't get any more screen time outside of SWTOR or through another shitty novel
>>322943198
You can spare Mission, I think, but Jolee joined precisely to try and stop you if you go Dark.
>>322943198
You will always have to kill Jolee and mission. You can ignore Juhani completely on Dantooine iirc. Carth runs away. You'll have to kill Zaalbar too if you bring him to the Star Forge.
playing the game with light side powers then going dark side will make the endgame pretty hard though
>>322931987
The idea is she's training you, and she's your final test
>>322943364
anything directly relating to legends material is non canon.
>>322932997
KotOR2 with the restoration mod is pretty much complete
Its even on steam workshop, retard proof
is this canon?
>>322934206
Does Alpha Protocol count
>>322938753
Yeah. The exile was able to form force bonds with his peers more readily than other jedi, and as a result he shared the pain of all the soldiers who died on Malachor V, the trauma of which was so great that he forcibly deafened himself to the force in order to escape it.
>>322943309
In battle, your mind blocks the worst of the bond. If you don't face her, she'll scan your thoughts until she reached the point where you are banging her daughter then stab herself to prove how miserable a failure you were
>>322943663
I heard that EA discussed this with JJ so we'll find out in the future probably. Hopefully not, it's a pile of utter shit from a story standpoint and a gameplay one, even for SWTOR it's dire.
>>322943785
>he
>>322943549
Fuck...but the Korriban academy played as Dark Side is so much fun. Guess I can do that "dark side mode" and then turn again into the light.
>>322943663
who are those fuckers
>>322931463
The old EU has its own canon now called Star Wars Legends. It's a parallel universe with the main canon.
>>322943878
since it's all non canon, we can stop pretending that anyone other than Jedi Jesus is an acceptable Exile.
>>322943663
It's a shame it's not, the story is pretty good and Emperor Valkorion is one of the best characters of the star wars universe.
>>322943878
>muh canon
Have it your way.
The one good thing about the MMO is the cinematics. Everything else ruined Knights of the Old Republic destroyed chances of a KOTOR 3
>>322944059
>Emperor Valkorion is one of the best characters of the star wars universe
oh fucking hell, you can't seriously think that
>>322944112
Well, at this moment Rakata Prime and Malachor, two planets that were KOTOR canon exclusive are now canon in the Disney universe.
Darth Bane is canon too and the teachings he followed were the teachings of Revan. There is still hope.
I need the mod that skips telos, in steam the only that is there is the paragus one I think.
Fucking hate the first two planets
>>322944059
>The reason Revan and Malak turned to the dark side is because they couldn't beat some shitty gary stu LE SITH EMPEROR WHO HAS LIVED 1000000 YEARS
Nah, fuck that
I like the idea that Revan grew so disenfranchised with the Jedi and the Republic that he just turned Sith because it aligned with his way of doing things better.
>>322944227
I have a thing for bad-non edgy-manipulative characters. I love how he tries to force you to use his power and after using them twice, even when you refuse his help the 3rd time he cancels your "no" choice and forces you to use them. I think I'm just tired of "WOOO WOOO I'M BAD!! I'M POWERFULL!! BOW BEFORE ME!!!" characters.
>>322944332
Outside of him starting the rule of two, the Canon Masketta Sith is quite clearly different from the old one, m8.
>>322942251
He did it all for the Wookies.
>>322943785
>and as a result he shared the pain of all the soldiers who died on Malachor V
Why can't Atton, Mira and Visas feel that pain?
And why Bao-Dur says "I died on Malachor V"?
>>322945014
Bao Dur is probably more fucked up mentally than the Exile is, and he wasn't connected to the force at the time
>>322945014
>Why can't Atton, Mira and Visas feel that pain?
see
>The exile was able to form force bonds with his peers more readily than other jedi,
>And why Bao-Dur says "I died on Malachor V"?
because he saw first hand precisely what he'd wrought. He feels horrified at what he did, but can't let go of the hatred that drove him to do it.
why can't anyone at obshitian ever implement morality in a way that isn't paper-thin
>>322945195
I thought it was the reason why Kreia couldn't hear his mind and the Exile could.
>>322945631
Yeah probably. His thoughts are all occupied with malachor and the exile was closer to him
>>322945432
ha ha no telling, bro
>>322944825
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>>322945767
gonna need sauce on that
now
>>322931463
Rakata prime and Revan are now canon. Disney has no issue adding in expanded universe stuff from the past that won't affect their future work.
>>322940120
this one too
>>322946898
Rakata Prime, Telos, Malachor and Bane are canon. But Revan?
>>322946721
on what bro? It's Kotor 2.
>>322946721
>>322945767
wait i got it
>>322946686
When you have Canderous and HK as carryovers and manage to make a new party member yet more based, you know you did something right.
>>322940120
>>322946913
i found this one also
don't worry about my previous posts because i got them
>>322931197
kreias saber style is awesome and i wish someone would make a mod so i could use it. walking slowly through rooms with sabers flying around killing people would be SO cash
>>322947352
Yeah atton was my nigga
>>322931197
Why is this character being posted over and over? Like every day? What's a good part of the OP to filter? Don't these forced meme threads use the same quote or something
>>322947723
fuck off back to /tv/
>>322947221
>>322947459
>he's into shota
you're fucking sick
>>322947723
no, she has quite a lot of quotes to choose from really so I wouldn't put my hopes up. You could always you know, scroll past this one thread of about 150 on this fucking board though, it wouldn't kill you
>>322940430
She doesn't give a shit if you agree with her opinion, only that you reflect and take them into consideration.
>>322942747
Kyle Katarn is a fair bit in sue territory, but to his credit his entire saga is often about how his aloof attitude hurts him as much as it helps him.
>decide to do a sith run
>get on "fuck all nice things" mode
>start being a dick to everyone and everything just for the dark side points
>all of my companions are worried and give me "better be careful" talks
>all of them blame Kreia for my fall from the light
>while Kreia herself keeps bitching at me because I'm being too much of a cunt
I don't even
>>322948559
While I can't speak about whatever novels he may have been in, Vidya Kyle Katarn is how a competent writer compiles traits without making a character a Sue.
The only people who think he is one are the dumbasses who worship tvtropes like it's gospel
>>322940120
I remember that part. After the "YOU ARE NOT LISTENING" or the "Pathetic Jedi teachings" you get an option to say "you are right". You even get influence with her if you tell her you don't trust her.
>>322947352
>>322947610
>other anons like Atton
For the longest time, I thought I was the only one.
>>322948767
>the dumbasses who worship tvtropes like it's gospel
So about 99% of the internet.
>>322937421
I thought it wasn't about HOW the exile lost connection with the force, but the fact that the exile just carried on trucking and even thrived without it, proving that no one NEEDS the force to survive, defying the conventional Jedi (and Sith for that matter) wisdom that everything is force related somehow and that there's some kind of grand plan.
>>322947352
>>322947610
>>322949123
For real, that guy is this game's best bro.
>I know just the place
>I'm gonna play pazaak and get shitfaced!
>loljk, gonna fuck up some twi'lek assassins
>>322946686
I want to Pure Pazaak inside Atton's ass!
>>322949123
>>322949393
Atton was a bro, man.
>>322949123
>>322949393
He's Elder bro tier
>sees you in pain, and promptly stops to try and help, despite being chased by a legion of assassins lead by a Sith Lord
>his reaction to an assassin coming for you is immediately to piss him off to take his attention from you
>warns you about the Jek Jek Tar/bounty hunters
>is the one to come up with a plan when it all goes to shit
>makes sure Handmaiden is on the level
>always has your back in conversations
>takes on Sion 1v1 for you
>Is there at the end, asking where to next
>every single time Kreia speaks something
Still posting KOTOR II
>When even Avellone himself regrets it
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-31-fear-is-the-path-to-the-dark-side
>>322951459
This is a good read
