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>>322697801
of course monitors, TV's have the worst input lag ever, color, crappy scaling , artificial 120+hz etc
Monitor for new stuff, tube tv for old consoles.
monitors have a much higher ppi ratio, much better when you're looking up close
>>322697801
>monitor is an all-in-one pc design
>>322697801
I haven't owned a television since the 90s that could handle bright reds. They always bleed on the default settings.
Monitor has smaller button input delay
>playing any games on a tv larger than 32"
HO BOY LOOK AT ALL THOSE PIXELS
Only thing I like about TVs over monitors is that they usually have superior viewing angles.
That being said, there is rarely a situation where I can't sit directly in front of my screen, so it's really a nonissue.
>>322697801
I have a 65" for when friends are over and want to play some random AAA dudebro games. I also have two monitors, once is a 27" 1080p for console games and the other is a 34" 4k for PC GAYMEN
people watch movies in a Monitor?
>>322697801
Where do projectors fall in?
>>322697801
the monitor probably has a superior resolution, DPI, refresh rate, response time and far less input lag, WAY more cable plug options
I have a nice one that's 39" alongside a normal 23" or something monitor. It's only 60hz but honestly I'm okay with that.
>>322700206
>projectors
People still use those? I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I'm genuinely curious.
>>322700364
Are you eating raw macaroni?
>>322700375
One of my friends uses one for movies and xbone occasionally.
>>322700206
They fall in the section where you're a poorfag
Plus they fuck up your eyes and are louder than tvs
>>322700510
Are you talking about the emergen-c box on top of my speaker? I got sick a while ago and haven't cleaned up :/
>>322697801
Monitors. Getting excited over a television in 2015 is the most pleb shit possible, second only to watching shit on phones.
>>322697801
i have a shitty tv that's like 1330x763 or something. I have issues playing modern games on it because all the detail makes it look much too cluttered and it's hard to tell what's going on.
so i prefer my monitor.
>>322700819
>emergen-c box
It looks like a box of velveeta shells and cheese.
TVs have more input lag and blur. and they cant do 144hz. you have to be retarded to even ask which is better
>>322700912
>2015
>>322700912
>having to turn your head constantly to look at anything
>not having one monitor directly in front and the second to the side
>>322701164
It will always be 2015 in my heart.
>>322701014
Im sorry to disappoint
My roommate uses an hdtv for his PC monitor. My eyes bleed every time I look at his screen. The dpi, the blurriness, the horrible looking colors. I don't even understand how anyone can enjoy this. I'd rather have a 23" monitor than use a 60" hdtv for pc games.
>>322700364
>Dune
My nigga
>PC hooked up to my TV
>lay on couch with controller of my choice and play anything that uses a controller
>sit at computer with 144hz IPS to anything else
it's glorious
Both, get a job
>>322697801
21:9 monitor
>>322700650
>poorfag
>with a 2k projecter and a 250 dollar screen
I'm sorry are you 11 years old or something?
>>322701901
>spending that much on a gaming PC
i'm running a build from 2011. the only thing i've upgraded was GPU to a 970gtx
i can run everything on high 60 fps, many games high at 144 fps
>why some people think CRT monitors are better than LCD?
For the same reasons some idiots prefer vinyl over digital, 2D film cinema over digital 3D IMAX, 24 FPS movies instead of 48+, animatronics over top of the line CGI, etc.
Bunch of dumb, broke hipster morons that are stuck in the past and like all sorts of crackling and popping over their music, and low frame rate , blurry, dirty image over their video.
So basically, dumb hipsters living in the past.
>>322702163
sounds like envy
you seem butt frustrated that you haven't future proofed your system in half a decade.
>>322701901
>get a job
>can't even afford an optical drive
>>322702356
lol
Why has no one created an ultra-high definition vector display? Like an oscilloscope that can display trillions of points at once in a range of all of the colors in existence?
vector displays > raster displays
>>322702290
Bro, I can't even tell if you're shitposting but I agree with you.
>>322702617
Because no one except the rich could afford it?
>>322702163
>GTX 970
>>322702460
Fucking case can't fit one, so my blu-ray drive sits in the draw
>>322702815
get a job >>322701901
Television but i prefer pc gaming, if that makes any sense.
>>322702460
>2015+1
>optical drive
But why
>>322702148
They have $10,000 TVs too dumbass. Nice ad hominem argument you crybaby
>>322697801
I have a TV as my third monitor, it's extremely laggy and the color is awful.
>>322697801
A few months ago I built my first gaming PC and decided to skimp on a monitor and instead use the HDTV I already owned
I have regrets
>>322703153
Piratin' stuff
>tfw check out movies from the library and rip them
>tfw no YIFY shit ever again
>>322701901
>Windows 10
Pffft
>>322703216
>Nice ad hominem argument
>They fall in the section where you're a poorfag
wew lad
I don't know why monitors and TVs are still different things. The whole smart TV thing strikes me as a desperate grasp for meaning.
>>322702841
>I dont know what price vs performance is
not everybody wants to/can afford to drop 700 bucks on a graphics card.
>>322697801
>gaming television
I miss CRT tvs. May they fight on gloriously in Valhalla.
>>322703364
you can just download a fucking thing, why even pay for renting it...
>>322703517
Try again, this time less pathetic
>>322703517
Nice meme, :)
>>322702163
You realize that he's not playing at 1080p, right?
>>322703865
Library is free you fucking European.
OLED TVs are better than any monitors on the market right now. 4k OLED will blow away a 4k monitor, the only thing holding them back is the price is still not within the consumers range.
>>322700206
that doesnt even look good lol
>>322700206
unvibrant pale weirdness meant for slideshows not general use
>>322704494
>buying anything 4K
anon, 1080p is not even the standard yet. by time that 4K is worth it, it'll be a third of the price, if not lower
literally the only good thing 4K has done is make 1080p TV's cheaper
though I guess I should be thanking sheeps like you since 1080p wouldn't be cheaper without your money, so thank you anonnow go be a good boy and buy a 5K
So a monitor is better for a WiiU than a TV?
>>322700206
ass-cancer-core
>>322704895
>literally the only good thing 4K has done is make 1080p TV's cheaper
anon no! you're giving out our secret!
we hae to keep shilling 4K's so more can buy some. holy shit anon what are you doing?!
4K is awesome and worth it guys, don't listen to this man
>>322704494
Problem is when you enable game mode/PC mode to heavily reduce input lag it degrades the quality anyway, so if your going for gaming i wouldn't spend the extra money on OLED or anything
>>322699690
A monitor just shows a picture. If you have the home theatre system to back it up, a great monitor is superior to a TV.
TV can be used without the sound system and external tuners, making it superior for low end low maintenance setups.
>>322701901
>that gpu temp on practically idle
Am I doing it right?
>>322707647
Clean up that desk you fucking slob.
>>322698296
>le lcds have input lag meme
Fuck off back to /vr/, faggot.
>>322701824
He probably took it off his shelf and stuck it there just for that picture because he wanted to portray taste and new Dune was a safe choice.
Cunning fuck can't beat my paranoid schizophrenia.
>>322702841
>Going any higher if you're not on 144hz
I sincerely hope you didn't buy the retarded middle child that is the 980. Its performance differences are minimal when compared to the price difference.
>>322709162
Dude.
Have you ever used an older TV with ur PC. some halal input lag if i've ever experienced it myself.
>>322702290
Fucking this
Nothing against old technology since I have a CRT for my old vidya and I love old 2D animations technics but what the fuck with those hipsters?
>>322702290
>I don't understand audio
>I don't know about the cinematic effect of 24fps
Moniter seems to work best. When I connect my PC, my fucking tv can't even handle Netflix for some stupid reason.
>>322697801
I have a phone. Why would I need either?
>>322710086
>Have you ever used an older TV with ur PC
>ever used an older TV with ur PC
>an older TV with ur PC
>older TV
The reason he told you to go back to /vr/ is because only fucking grandpas think input lag is an issue for modern TVs, and by modern TVs I mean the last 5 to TEN years
Any even cheap ass new HDTV has on average only 10ms more delay than a monitor.
And this doesn't even bring up the point on how stupid this meme was to begin with, even with older TVs.
>for over a decade now, most games are multiplat, being on consoles and PC
>SOMEHOW a TV is okay to play said games on console but SOMEHOW is NOT okay to play said same games on a PC with a TV
What kind of retards come up with such retarded thinking and "logic"?
>>322701234
Its not hard to turn your body 5 degrees to center your body infront of another monitor if thats what you're implying. Hell, I have two monitors and I dont even have to move. I just move my eyes to another screen. Though, I'm not sitting directly infront of my screens either like some retards do.
>>322697801
I use a monitor for movies and tv to play games.
>>322714293
This fan art is disingenuous. Lyn is not cute. She is a potato.
>>322698489
>Graphic Design
>It's an iMac
shocking
>>322697801
They're all displays, you go for whatever suits your needs.
Currently have a 39" TV and a 28" Monitor. Contrary to what you'd think the TV has much lower input delay than the monitor, though this is with the TV at 120Hz vs a 60Hz monitor.
>>322704895
Yeah, no content except for one specific type of media. Shame I can't recall what it is since I'm posting on /v/ right now.
>>322703364
Most people don't make pirated physical copies of shit because its a waste of time. You can just keep all of your data on a hard drive and hook a fucking cable up to whatever device you're streaming from.
same answer as every other time this thread is posted:
both
>input lag
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/input-lag?uxtv=97b6
anyone got a similar site for benchmarks? (I got a Vizio E 32" recently)
>monitor has a (SMTT 2) 5.5ms total display lag
Haven't played my main game on the tv.
>>322717689
>5.5ms total display lag
do you even know the difference between response time and input lag/delay?
>>322718534
estimated signal processing lag 1.05ms, the other 4.45ms is pixel response time yeah but that review site didn't break it down between display and signal processing lag so I kept them together to be comparable values.
>>322719080
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-2015?uxtv=97b6
>Input Lag: 29.5 ms
Response time determines how much blurring/trailing there is, not how much delay there is(well not as much at least).
>>322699080
This.
>>322719406
response time was 14.6ms, under the motion blur section..
so 29.5ms - response time is 14.9ms input lag.
Monitor for PC TV for consoles. Like everyone does. Monitors might be better even for consoles like with input lag but they void the whole muh couch part of consoles and consolefags don't notice any of the downsides anyway.
Though TVs right now are so obsessed with the physical size of the things you just get larger pixels unless you buy a 4k TV, and if you do that you have nothing to play or watch on it that's 4k unless you have a PC hooked to it.
I'm getting a 144Hz monitor soon. Can't wait to see the difference. They're good even if you're not reaching 144Hz aren't they? I think I read they lower screen tearing. Not to mention not being capped at 60 fps visually.
>>322697801
Monitor, you retard. HDTVs have input lag.
>>322697801
Definitely monitors. TVs have only gotten worse for gaming as CRTs became more and more distant memories.
>>322703216
But they don't have 100$ projectors, in fact cheapest runs around 600$ no screen.
>>322714293
>millenial who never heard about CRT monitors everybody
>>322720697
Got a 120Hz, and the biggest difference is when you drag around windows I shit you not.
https://youtu.be/LCbTRSv9sQ8?t=10m51s
>>322720697
>Monitor for PC TV for consoles. Like everyone does
DON'T QUESTION WHY JUST DO IT CUZ THATS HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT!!!!
No surprise retards are the ones that fall for the input lag meme and bandwagoning
>>322721419
I think you would have to be a literal consolefag retard to not see the difference between 30fps and 60fps, but, no I seen a few videos trying to demonstrate that 120 + 144 are 6 BILLION times better, but I don't really notice anything.
30 vs 60 = night and day
60 vs 120/144 = dusk and twilight....
>>322703871
Nice ad hominem argument you crybaby
>>322721396
The day I switched from a CRT to an LCD back in 2003 was the day I stopped fucking my eyes up with a bullshit, harmful technology that not only shoots xrays at your face for 10 hours a day, but it also has a shitty, distorted image and is dim as fuck.
Now, I have a 55 inch OLED TV with an amazing image for movies, an ASUS PG279Q 165hz IPS 1440 Gsync monitor for games, and another 40 inch 4k Phillips VA monitor with amazing contrast for photo and video editing.
CRT is trash for broke hipsters.
Can't wait until they all fucking break so I can stop hearing you fucking fedora man children kissing CRT's ass constantly.
>>322721946
Well monitors don't come in 60+ inch versions, at least those that cater to consumers, and consolefags aren't going to willingly play on a small screen even if it's better in every other way. I don't notice input lag in general, even with vsync, so even if I tried playing games on a TV I probably wouldn't notice it while playing normally.
>>322704381
My library only carries DVDs so I'm stuck at movies being in 480 and look like shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk-lA12FBk
>>322723878
>buying OLEDs
As someone who sells TVs for a living, pic related.
i can't think of an issue with computer monitors that tvs don't have.
and on the flip side i can't think of an issue that monitors have that tvs don't.
>>322725194
It's LED, but it's organic.
Organic, like a roast of the best Tweek coffee.
Try our OLED tvs now. Only at Tweek's.
>>322725194
Everything I've read about them shows that they're objectively better, other than the high cost. Are you just laughing at the pricing, or is there something I'm missing?
>>322726234
I'm gonna guess it's something about blue pixel life.
It's still the best you can get outside of arguably a Vizio reference or something.
>>322726234
They are objectively better if you don't care about price or longevity
>>322726234
OLEDs undergo screen rot, starting with their blue pixels, otherwise it's a pretty objective upgrade
>>322698489
well..... the mouse is plugged into the tv too
>have samsung monitor from 2006?
>buy ASUS VG248QE 144hz last year
>samsung still has better blacks
black is literally black
on the ASUS black is like really dark gray
>>322726234
They are objectively better. That's definitely true. That said, they are hideously expensive and will get a lot cheaper very quickly. If you've got the cash then sure, but you'd need to have so much money that it literally doesn't matter to justify spending that much. They also only come in curved variety in 55" as far as I'm aware, so top kek to that. Allegedly they have shorter lifespans too.
Basically, you could get a 75" LED TV for the price of a 55" OLED, and not just a shitty offbrand 75" either.
I hope you calibrated it.
They're fantastic televisions, but expensive.
>>322726740
Besides the black thing is that a good monitor? That's the one I'm looking at getting. Also I heard that the contract and color on that monitor by default is shit but that you can change it yourself to be better.
>>322726740
A monitor is a monitor, bud. I know you're not some paid shill but you sure sound like one right now.
>>322703364
>YIFY finally fucking dead
Good, the dark age of only shitty rips being seeded is finally ending.
>>322726740
>VG248QE
That's a TN so it's not really surprising.
>>322726902
>tfw remembering when flatscreen plasmas first came out
>40" was over 10k
>>322726902
My parents just bought a curved 65" OLED TV. They know fuck all about anything and don't even care about picture quality or anything though but they just bought it because it's apparently the "best TV on the market".
>>322726908
ya
just calibrate it and its fine
>>322727054
>people ask me for the best TV in the store
>i immediately take them to the most expensive one
>>322726902
>Calibrated it
One of these days I need to get around to doing that with my Sony W800B.
>>322727054
>>322726902
>TV's over 50"
just get a fucking projector
>>322726908
Not him but have the same moniter. Yeah you can tweak the colour (after using lightboost) to get it looking passable. But a TN panel is a TN panel, its never going to have great looking colour depth. Don't watch movies on it.
>friend has a samsung 50"
>hardly ever gets used
>turns it on one day
>perfect black line right across the middle of the screen
the fuck?
>>322697801
>Use HDMI cable from PC to TV
>play PC games on the big screen
problem fixed
>>322727156
POORFAGS GET OUT OF MY STORE IF YOU'RE NOT SPENDING OVER 5 GRAND YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN HERE NO I WILL NOT TALK TO YOU FOR 45 MINUTES ABOUT WHICH PROJECTOR IS THE BEST
>>322727156
It's 4k so it's better than 1080p at least.
>>322727196
Don't the other things besides TN have issues with getting higher refresh rates? I'm sure you could get one at 144Hz but they're probably more expensive and such. I have a TN monitor right now and don't really have an issue with it despite everyone saying they're shit.
>>322727251
>tfw AMD cards had output audio as well as video through HDMI
>tfw can watch movies/twitch on TV proper
>>322727341
>4k
>2016
why?
theres stil barely any content that is 4k source
>uscaling
>>322702290
Confirmed for not knowing any of the advantages CRTs have over LCD and Plasma.
>>322727446
Tell that to my parents. I tried talking them out of it, and honestly to me even 1080p content (though TV isn't even 1080p, I'm mostly talking about bluray) looks fine. Watching TV it does look somewhat bad though but like I said, they basically walked into the store, asked for the best, and bought what the guy said.
>>322701857
Both is the only answer.
>>322727559
>stubborn relatives
i know the feel bro
>>322727358
Nvidia has that too you nigger
>>322726993
>>322727504
>plasma TVs were outlawed in my country due to using too much power
>>322697801
It depends on a lot of things, what you're planning to play, how you're planning to play it, your hardware, preferred refresh rate, etc. I have two lcd monitor's and a 40inch samsung mounted on the wall above it hooked to my pc via HDMI, i sit about 2 1/2 feet from it and can barely make out the difference in quality between my monitor and tv with things like text, with games and movies it's not noticeable. You're not likely to notice a significant difference if you're buying a quality tv and using the right cable. Quality monitors tend to cost substantially less than quality tvs though, especially as the size increases. With TVs you also have to pay close attention to the refresh rates.
>>322705083
Yes.
In fact, PC/Wii U/PS4/XBOne should be played on an AH-IPS monitor with sub 8ms input lag.
Anything older should be played on an HD CRT TV or monitor.
>>322714293
I had this really old (early to mid 2000s old) 1080p Japanese LCD TV for some reason and she doesn't use anymore. What I did was I set it up as a monitor for my PC just to test it and the input lag was one of the worsr I have ever experienced. I could really feel it because the discrepamcy between moving the mouse and the cursor on the monitor actually moving was very noticeable.
>>322723878
You're an insecure faggot who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>322727590
Is that a dog or a huge ferret?
>>322700206
>comfy ass couches
>hard, cold tiled floors for your feet
Ruined
>>322700206
>cold fucking tiles
get a rug nigga
>>322728284
Oh sorry, no. That's my turtle sitting on it's back.
>>322723878
lol, tru dat.
>tfw sill have my sanyo CRT from 10 years ago
>was shit when i got it for christmas
>screen is all crooked
>tfw need it for retro consoles
I'm a film guy foremost so I already have a calibrated 55 inch vt60 (one of the last great plasmas), but I want to upgrade to 65 inch. I DON'T want oled because I don't care about 4k meme and they have trouble with motion resolution for content under 60fps such as film. Then, the colors are worse than the vt60.
The only thing slightly better is the black levels, but my vt60 has incredible black levels that are as deep as you can go without shutting off pixels so i don't care.
>>322729175
>600hz
is that the same as monitor hz?
so can you see up to 600 FPS?
>he bought into the CRT screen protection meme
>>322729369
meant for you>>322723878
>>322727590
>can see your miiverse avatar
u dun goofd faggot
im backtracking your ip as we speak
prepare for r*pe
>>322729772
already got his exif data M8
exif had map data
>>322728638
I like turtles
>people actually bought lg korean-grade garbage
>people fell for the cheap beta-test oleds
>people bought into "best tv EVAR" but has shit inaccurate colors and terrible motion resolution and high inclination to burn-in
you CAN'T make this shit up.
step over boys, panny's back and the TRUE tv for patricians is here.
http://televisions.reviewed.com/content/panasonic-cz950-4k-pro-oled-tv-first-impressions-review
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/tx65cz952b-201601044222.htm
>>322729995
>korean meme
i blame that fat fucking tek syndicate cunt
>>322698387
>tube tv
do you also listen to old music on cassette tapes?
>>322726976
the average person doesn't want to download 10gb for a movie
>>322730426
>10GB
>not downloading 35+GB 1080p bluray rips
>>322728124
Sorry the truth hurts
>>322730560
>pirating at all
kill yourself. you're the reason why big bugets are attributed to nothing but capeshit, sequels, and cinematic universes
thanks for the death of cinema.
>>322730860
>/mu/ doesn't give a shit about piracy
>/tv/ doesn't give a shit about piracy
>/a/ doesn't give a shit about piracy
>/co/ doesn't give a shit about piraacy
>/v/ goes full autistic calling people scum
wew lad
>>322701901
Dude, clean your fucking GPU, there is no way that thing gets that hot at idle normally. I've got a GTX 660 and it idles at 30c.
>>322731050
thanks for the death of vidya, anime, music, and cartoons as well then.
do you feel glad?
>>322731050
kinda reflective of how society views the industries. Vidya is the only industry where consumers are willing to take a cock up their ass. Lube is just an afterthought
Personally, I think that monitor is better, but I myself have never had that option, its either been TV or nothing, because I'm not gonna go out and purchase a monitor for minor changes, especially when I have a perfectly good TV in the living room.
>>322731186
>music
>dead
lol
>>322731186
contrary to popular belief, movies back then still "played safe" with their rehashes and clichés and piracy was inexistant much more difficult to do back then
Playing on big screen while lying down on a couch is good but televisions' response time is horrible.
>>322731416
Don't ever fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>322697801
>monitors for up close
>TV for far away
It is that simple.
>>322731621
okay
Depends on your setup. I decided to go with a TV so I wouldn't have to buy a bunch of adapters in order to separate audio/video inputs and degrade signal quality by increasing impedance.
In terms of specs... That's hard to say.
They both cater to groups with different interests. Neither one is particularly superior over the other.
You'll find shit products on both sides, and of course, good products are going to be good.
Difficult to say much more than that, as they're pretty much the same. Modern TVs are pretty good, same could be said of modern monitors. Whether you get more out of it depends on what you expected going in.
>>322731186
People shouldn't get paid for doing hobbies.
>>322697801
>playing PC
Use a monitor
>playing console
Use a tv
There is no other answer. No game on consoles require twitchy fast response times. Until they make an affordable monitor that is the same size as my 50" TV, I'll keep using it for my console games and keep my 4K monitor for my PC.
>>322733279
the morally bankrupt, socially and economically inept NEETS everybody!
truly a sect worthy of carrying the future of society and the human race!
A round of applause please!
>>322733425
>splatoon on a TV vs a monitor
enjoy getting your anus manhandled
>>322733279
anything is game as long people want to buy it (and it doesn't hurt someone), go away with your elitist bullshit
>>322702290
>watching movies above 24fps
I hope the 48fps meme dies with the Hobbit, what a fucking shit idea that was. It was like watching a made-for-tv movie when I saw it at the cinema, it was far better watching it at home at 24fps.
>>322733425
>no games on console require twitchy fast response times
What kind of fucking games are you playing, casual?
Fighting games, Racing, Shooting, and Rhythm need that shit
>>322733674
>unironically owning a Wii U
I thought the Wii U was just a /v/ meme, I didn't think anybody actually owned one.
>>322733994
where do you think you are?
>>322726902
>Allegedly they have shorter lifespans too
That's actually true, OLEDs wear with use. If you stumble into a phone store, look at one of those high-end Samsung demo units with OLED screens, it'll most likely have ungodly burn-in issues
>>322734157
yeah this place is cancer. idk why i keep coming if people actually think nintendo or pc is better than the best pair. can't wait 'til nintendo dies or goes multiplat and puts their shit on playstation meanwhile ms cuts off xbox division fat because it doesn't make them enough money to warrant the costs. it'll be hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLaSknLWUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMAg46zaRbs
>>322700364
>The Alchemist
>Samurai Jack
>Dune
My fucking nigger.
