>Mass Effect 2: "No two species are identical. All must be judged on their own merits. Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthropomorphism."
>Mass Effect 3: "GETH ARE REAL PEOPLE TOO BIGOT"
Fuck Bioware
Name one good Bioware game
Protip:you can't
>>322535763
>Tali
>cool design
>hot as fuck body
>unattractive as fuck personality
>talks like a spoiled bitch
>>322535763
>Mass Effect 2: Assemble a team to beat the reapers
>Mass Effect 3: Lol fuck off shepard i got my own things to do
>>322535763
>Mass Effect 2: Cerberus is an organization dedicated to the betterment of humanity
>Mass Effect 3: Lol we were the empire from star wars all along
>>322536249
what is Knights of the Old republic
>>322537395
Did you play Mass Effect 1?
>>322537065
>>322536619
>>322537395
>>322537065
>>322535763
>dragon age origins: faggots
>dragon age NEXT: faggots Faggots FAGGOTS
>>322536249
>Baldur's Gate
>NWN
>KoToR
Do you even video game anon?
>>322537395
Cerberus went from a small rouge spec ops group using tiny prefab labs in the middle of nowhere to some massive well funded organization in 2 to some super army in 3. Cerberus wasn't consistent at all.
I distinctively remember in the original Dragon Age Sten saying something along the lines of you can't even judge a species, a people, or a country. That there's no such thing as a themepark explanation of how an entire species thinks and operates, because ultimately they are all composed of people and there's no reason to believe an entire non-human race will have the same mindset when even humans who live in the same city managed to accomplish such a feat.
Which is a pretty obvious point looking in hindsight, but it's something that Bioware always failed spectacularly at doing.
>you can't stereotype a species, now allow me to tell you the stereotype of my species.
I never played any of those and I like most of the 90s and 00s RPGs. Should I get ME1?
>>322535763
>The reapers have control of the reapers, an unparalleled assault force and the reapers use them to kidnap humans instead of securing the relay where the reapers will soon be arriving, delaying their conquest by 6 months.
>It is mentioned several times that the reapers first target in every cycle is the citadel, to stop any organised resistance while the reapers divide and conquer all races. This is completely disregarded in 3 as the Citadel is attacked twice during mass effect 3, by cerberus both times.
>>322538238
You can see Mass Effect 1 as being a spiritual successor to KotOR, if that's the sort of thing you like, sure, go ahead.
>>322535763
Who are you quoting
P.S. Anyone who prefers 2 over 3 is just wrong. 3 had better story (in which things actually happened that mattered), better characters (Javik alone is better than the entirety of the daddy issues crew in 2), better gameplay (self explanatory), and it had a fucking rad multiplayer mode.
>>322537395
Cerberus were always space nazis you stupid nigger, play ME1 sometime. The fact that Shepard even ENTERTAINED the idea of joining them in 2, let alone doing so after wiping out hundreds of their ranks, is shitty writing to the Nth degree.
>>322538738
Nice memes.
>>322538993
Mass Effect 2 retcons the fuck out of them and 3 does it again. There is no consistency.
>>322539009
Name one meme in my post, redditor
>>322539160
>He doesn't know that he's memeing
>>322539147
Original sin was with 2, 3 intended to un-fuck that plotline and it did. Daily reminder that ME2 is the beaten redheaded stepchild of the series that nobody wanted.
>>322539253
Are legitimate questions memes now?
inb4 tali playing with horse dick/balls
smudboy i summon you
>>322538045
INDOCTRINATION
>>322538193
Dragon age Origins was a nice, solid game.
Kirkwall could have been so much fun and full of personality being a lawless city
Inquisition could have been better without the open world. It had some great stuff with Solas but that only came in with the fucking DLC
Dragon Age could have been so good. Why did Bioware have to go down the shitter.
>>322540059
EA.
We have seen this countless times. EA is a disease.
>>322538240
>they go to earth because mankind is special
>combined fleet attacks them while they are at earth
>basically every shot that doesnt hit a reaper will do so much damage to the earth that it is uninhabitable
>they are basically turning it into a lifeless rock as they fight to conquer it
>>322538993
>>322539147
Its funny how easily they could have rewritten it. Make it that cerberus is made by 3 great families (which was a part of why they chose the name cerberus) and that recently the families were split apart by differences in how to proceed. TIM was one of the good guys while the cerb agents you fought in 1 were of the bad splinters.
ME3 will never get my time or money, because they ruined the franchise so thoroughly with it. Tali's face is a stock photo, a nine year old made of holograms is the controlling thing behind the Reapers, and perhaps worst of all to me at least, they ruined the Geth. They had a good thing going there with every individual Geth being an identical VI program with their consciousness being a result of networking, the only difference between one Geth and the other being the data they have available. Then they ruined it by treating the Geth's physical platforms as "a Geth" and giving that an individual identity. Worth noting: having an individual identity without being interfaced with other Geth is a concept that absolutely terrifies the Geth. They seek consensus and contact above all else.
They ruined the Geth as much as they ruined Tali in ME3. Those were my two favorite things in the Mass Effect universe, and now they're both ruined.
To see ME1 tainted saddens my heart
>>322538738
Legion in his loyalty mission.
The geth were getting upgraded by reaper technology allow them to individualism. if you chose to terminate the geth, the majority of crew members like that decision.. I dont get what op is trying to imply. The only portion where bioware attempted to get the player to sympathize with the geth is when you penetrated their severs.
the base game is trash, but with all the dlcs it's decent.
Heavy risk...
>>322541623
allowing them to individualize*
>>322541726
All about that prize.
>>322538993
>have survivor history shep
>forced to side with Cerberus
I pretty much had to assume there was some kind of control chip in his brain for that to work
>>322541726
Look at thiiiiiis
Why was fucking crewmembers in ME2 and 3 a-okay? Especially regarding Cortez and Traynor, who were Alliance officers below you in rank. That shit wouldn't fly. Only reason you could fuck Kaidan and Ashley in ME1 was because you were technically rogue after stealing the ship and weren't bound by alliance fraternization regulations.
sucks that everybody online seems to side with the geth. Falling right into the Bioware propaganda what they want you to pick. Fuck that, geth are such shit that you fight them in all three games. They're literally waiting to get hacked by reapers. I'll give Bioware this: they made a good decision to make it evil toasters vs. space gypsies because I'd normally never choose gypsies over anything. But at least you can't hack into gypsies and have them start trying to exterminate organic life
The issue was the fact that they initialized the geth to the point where in-universe they couldn't be blamed for their action because they're portrayed as impressionable innocents.
>>322537596
Massively Overrated
It's just a massive retread of the original trilogy. It was the Force Awakens before the Force Awakens, except even more fan fictiony.
>>322543242
ME2 was fine because it wasn't an Alliance vessel and thus had different regulations. ME3 it's just there because Biofags like sodomy and bestiality.
>>322543296
I chose Geths over gypsies and at the end chose red ending.
>want to replay the series
>don't want to use origin and controllers don't work for some fucking reason
>don't have console
suffering
>>322543567
>It was the Force Awakens before the Force Awakens
>takes place thousands of years in the past, has no relation with the events of the movies
???????
>>322543296
>Side with Geth
>Chose destroy ending
Only way to genocide all the cunts.
>>322543730
Isn't it on Steam?
>>322543242
cypher gave you ancient knowledge about how to bone colleagues without any problems. Proteans went over this
>>322543730
tpb tbqh.
>>322543242
The Normandy is technically a civilian ship when it's flying Cerberus colors and in the third game people probably didn't care about regs like that when the world was ending.
>>322543797
3 isn't. Controller still doesn't work. Suppose I could get it to work with some fuckery but I can't be bothered.
I could just use my keyboard like a man but I just prefer a controller for ME for some reason.
>>322543830
filthy degenerate.
>>322543797
Bioware was always lame as fuck with making gamepad compatible with their game son PC. lazy cunts
>>322541623
>The only portion where bioware attempted to get the player to sympathize with the geth is when you penetrated their severs.
If both tali and Legion are alive it's obvious they want you to push for peace or to kill the quarians.
quarians initiated the attack on their 'peaceful superstructure' for no fucking reason when the reapers arrive
Tali and Legion constantly question shepard why there cant be peace
Quarians constantly fuck up, either making "evil" choices such as sacrificing people for SCIENCE! or shit that's unsavory to the player like nearly killing you to blow up the dreadnaught
Legion constantly goes "look! we're alive by borrowing their technology(despite saying that borrowing tech was retarded and liking their current situation in the last game)"
The only good thing to come out the quarian/geth arc is punching the admiral and telling the quarians to fuck off in the renegade peace option.
>>322543730
>buy Mass Effect 3
>buy the prothean DLC for good measure [it was on a sale at a pittance, don't look at me like that]
>start game
>get to the DLC
>the game freezes and there's nothing you can do, lose all progress
Welp, that's what I get for giving money to EA. Haven't played Mass Effect 3 to this day.
>>322544145
best part about the attack on the superstructure is that once the thing was completed the entire geth would have LEFT the planet
because their entire goal was to upload themselves into that superstructure
all those idiots had to do was wait
the series isn't the greatest ever and has alot of flaws. Especially including 3. But the world is extremely interesting to me for some reason. I like just learning about whats going and learning more about characters. Was very upset about 3 and I'm sure I'm be upset with 4.
To this day one of my fondest game memories is the suicide mission in ME2. Playing that for the first time had me hard as diamonds.
>>322539335
I wanted it
mah squad recruiting space exploraiton
>>322544501
>Doing suicide mission
>Everyone except miranda and thane died
>Kill ashley on the citadel
>Liara and vega get atomized by harbinger
>Thane and miranda die during the story
>Chose red endng
Whoops.
>>322545063
Everyone lived on my first go because I was autistic about doing every possible thing I could beforehand. I didn't even know people could die for reals until I read it later on.
>>322535763
You're an idiot. 3 was about giving the Geth freedom to be judged as individuals rather than having the whole race lumped together as evil robots.
ME3 was best ME
>>322545235
that was the point THE GETH WERE NOT INDIVIDUALS AND HAD NO INTENTION TO BE INDIVIDUALS
their goal was to essentially become a single cooperative entity, then fuck off to god knows where to do their robot things because they're not humans, they're not even organic life forms
I will forever be mad
>>322538738
>Javik
>DLC Character
I desperately hope you're baiting.
>>322538738
>>322545447
"No."
>>322545597
The fact that he's DLC was shitty but he is genuinely one of the best characters in the franchise
1>2>3
Gameplay:3
Story:1
Companions:2
World:1
>>322546070
This is fair.
>>322545946
He was the only good character in ME3
>>322543567
>It was the Force Awakens before the Force Awakens
True, it's like TFA, but with 100% more CREATIVITY and original content, something Disney doesn't know
> Every game bioware makes is worse than the first one in the series.
>>322546070
>World:1
why though?
you can visit far more planets in ME2 with all the dlc
all those comfy space cafes
2=1> power gap > 3
>>322546414
The problem with ME was that they made out the Reapers to be complicated and deep in the first, and couldn't follow through on that in the third. The second just avoided the issue by putting them on the sidelines.
Could 3 have been good if it was given a year more development time?
>>322546230
That's not really fair anon, after the prequels I can understand Disney wanting to play it safe. It's not like re-making the original trilogy with new story aspects, characters and effects is that bad of a thing
>>322546459
Because I liked actually seeing the world. Getting to know it, see how a planet described with a Iode atmosphere had yellow skies. Roaming around the planet, going out and having to ocme back due to pressure or toxicity in air made me feel more immersed than
PROBE LAUNCHED
>>322546559
I wonder how long Andromeda has been in development? Hopefully since 3 came out.
The real question is who the fuck designed this dress? And then put it on three different characters? Why is the top of it designed like a leather sports bra? Who thought that necklace would go well with it at all? Why does it make everyone's hips look huge and ass look flat?
Why couldn't they just bring back the vastly superior Kasumi dress?
>>322545946
Didn't play From Ashes, does he have any character beyond trolling/shitting on everybody else and being emo if he touches that memory shard(?)?
>>322546070
I could agree to this.
>>322546459
>With all the DLC
And what about the base game?
>>322546559
It would have been technically better but the writing would have probably been the same.
>geth
>robots
>can live literally ANYWHERE
>LITERALLY
>ANYWHERE
>"but we want the planet you fags can only live on"
i shot legion all three timesI also killed Wrex and fucked the Krogans
>>322546414
>Baldur's Gate
>>322535763
>Treating every species like one's own is racist
>implying robots give a fuck about racism
bioware pls
>>322546559
Why not make a chart that isn't shit and shows for how long the first one was in development?
>>322546559
I'll wait to see if Andromeda is a complete shitfest on release. Dragon Age had something similar where DAO was in development for over twice as long as DA2.
>>322546548
Same thing happened to the Qunari in Dragon Age.
Inscrutable and utterly alien in Dragon Age and ESPECIALLY Dragon Age II, and by the point Inquisition rolls around you know that they have a class of prostitute-priesthood and their scary dogmatic society becomes far more humane and approachable, therefore less than what it once was.
>>322546819
Why does ME3 default femshep look so fucking weird? Why are her eyes unusually green? Why is she wearing so much fucking makeup?
Reminder that giving the Geth the Reaper Code actually kills off most of the Geth AIs until there's only one Geth program per body
Reminder than the Mass Effect 3 writers ruined one of the most unique and alien interpretations of AI with "muh free will"
>>322547089
Bioware's character modeling team is probably seriously lacking field research
>>322536619
>unattractive personality
What? If anything she was one of the few likeable characters
>one of the most interesting sci fi settings since star wars or star trek was made
>completely ruin it by forcing a shitty you must save everyone plot
Why the fuck do developers and writers always do this? Why the fuck can't we just get a really interesting universe like mass effect where I can just explore, be a bounty hunter, trade etc. Why the fuck does the entire universe have to revolve around me? It makes me feel less like a party of that universe and more like i'm the only one in the universe.
>>322541726
>>322542269
>>322542898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ze_R3TevE
>>322536619
But anon spoiled princesses get my dick rock hard
>>322547417
Play Ur-Quan Masters, Wing Commander or Privateer
>>322546819
Her body is so weird in ME3. It's like they wanted to avoid making her skinny but were too lazy to model actual muscle mass and as a result she just has massive hips that start way too high up.
>>322547089
>forgetting the giraffe neck
>>322547417
but star wars isn't even close to an interesting scifi setting
its about as generic as they come and I can right fully use that term given it took pretty much all its key elements from other settings
>ME2
>Geth were divided into two factions
>Heretics that followed Sovereign and the rest that thought taking Reaper tech was detrimental to the Geth determining their own path in the universe
>The Geth have pretty much just been building forces and shit behind the Perseus Veil after kicking the Quarians out
>The Geth's ultimate goal was to make a Dyson Sphere where all Geth could be together with near instantaneous communication with each other
>The Quarians are all arguing about whether or not to go back and fight the Geth
>But not really, only one radical guy is really in favor of that plan and everyone thinks he's crazy
>Mainly because the Quarians are all in busted up space junkers and are completely incapable of fighting on long, sustained wars due to frontline complications that stem from their weak immune systems and they're just outgunned
>ME3
>The Quarians launched an attack on the Geth that somehow completely overwhelms them
>The Geth are so overwhelmed by Quarian forces that they resort to accepting Reaper tech
>Legion sacrifices himself to give them all individual sentience so that they're just like every other biological organism in the galaxy
Fucking stupid.
>>322547338
I like Tali but her extreme racism toward Geth even after we know they're alright after 1 gets pretty grating.
>>322547417
Messiah power fantasy's are popular and easier for bad writers to write.
>>322547527
>Wing Commander or Privateer
HD remake when?
>>322547527
I love those games but I want something modern and with a completely innovative setting like Mass Effect. It makes me irrationally angry, like I start fucking fuming thinking about all this wasted potential.
>>322545235
Which contradicts the sentiments of Legion in ME2.
Don't believe me?
His writer left before ME3 and said that the Geth plot line switched from an exploration of how an inorganic race would operate as a culture into a basic Pinocchio story because the lead director said it's too complicated to make Geth sympathetic without them being anthropomorphized.
>>322545234
>Everyone lived on my first go because I was autistic about doing every possible thing I could beforehand. I didn't even know people could die for reals until I read it later on.
same here
>>322547565
The EU is amazing though. Kotor 1 and 2 had amazing writing and they weren't boring as fuck cliche stories.
>>322547417
Same here anon
I just want to play as a morally grey space pirate and fly around the terminus system looking for valuables and making deals with mob bosses on omega
>>322547798
EU is 99% garbage with 1% doing something interesting with what is otherwise a generic as fuck setting
kotor 1 was pretty darn cliché and kotor 2 was basically obsidian explaining why star wars was a bad setting
>>322547648
But isn't that the her whole race main shtick, they created the one thing that beat their ass down while only defending itself and they are the only ones who keep wanting the bullshit race war to keep going since main majority of teh Geth only took care of the planet so their creators could one day go back to it, hell they probably would wipe out the heretics if they were asked by them since they seemed to whorship the ground their creators walkedSure ME3 managed to fuck up even that but still
>>322547881
Mass Effect MMO one day, amiright?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9AqFWaA5U
>>322547417
Most of star wars was ripped off from dune though
>>322547798
I enjoyed KotOR but don't think I would go that far, especially with 1.
>>322547752
It's not just complicated it's impossible to feel sympathetic towards a regular machine so they took it in the right direction.
>>322546858
>And what about the base game?
even the base game has more
>>322536619
Gizmo-Techy Tali from Mass Effect got my dick diamond-like.
Hurfdurf-I-hax-stuff-and-geths-are-dum Tali from ME2 was repulsive.
I don't even have to talk about ME3's TaliSING-ALONG/FTL JUMPED ME INTO PUBERTY
>>322535763
These statements don't conflict though. The Geth wanted to be recognized as their own species, they didn't want to be the robot slaves of the quarian.
>>322547089
No facemodel.
>>322547417
Power fantasies are easy to write and build a story around, most people enjoy being the hero/ultimate badass.
>>322547798
>The EU is amazing though.
Not sure if serious.
>>322547881
I just want a game where the world exists outside my character. Witcher 3 actually did a decent job of this but at times even felt a little forced.
>Mass effect universe
>very neutral plot where your choices have consequences but you don't control literally every outcome
>deals with adult themes that make you question if what you're doing is right
>lots of customization
>lots of exploration
>economy that makes sense
>>322536619
>implying Tali was wrong
>siding with talking toasters EVER
mfw
>>322547574
The Geth had been weakened severely after the events of Mass Effect 1 and the years leading up to Mass Effect 2. Meanwhile the Quarians apparently had tech that allowed them to attack with confidence because of that super smart quarian who gives you the chargey gun.
I don't think the Mass Effect is super airtight, but they obviously planned out the Krogan Genophage and Geth War since Mass Effect 2.
>>322548013
FUCK OFF
>>322536249
Jade Empire you little shit.
>>322547798
There are interesting concepts here and there, sure, but I owe that more to the vastness of the amount of material available than due to any intrinsic value of the source material.
I love Darth Caedus, for example, but I don't see him as anything that could only exist in Star Wars. Star Wars is just THE cool codifier in common consciousness for space empires and aliens duking it out with one another with a tad of mysticism thrown in.
>>322548075
I disagree, the approach they avoided worked in Mass Effect 2.
They played it safe.
I don't see how that was a good choice.
>>322548005
>since they seemed to whorship the ground their creators walked
Can't remember which game it was but tali said they shot down every ship that tried to negotiate with them, whether it be council or quarian. They just wanted to be left alone and staying in the perseus veil was the best way of doing so.
>>322548346
>mysticism
the correct term is microbes
>>322548342
I wish we'd get a Jade Empire 2yes I'm that desperate
>>322548005
Yeah, Tali is the only one we spend real time with. Quarians as a whole seem too unwilling to get over something that happened decades ago, especially in 3 when it's the worst possible time thanks to the Reapers.
I mean, I guess humanity could very well act the same in the situation, but I don't think that was the original plan, another big change with different writers like the dark matter stuff.
>>322548201
>weakened in the years leading up to Mass Effect 2
Uh, how? The Heretics and the main bulk of the Geth population had parted on peaceful terms and had pretty much no interaction. The Geth main bulk was still chilling and building up their resources while the Heretics were going about their stupid crusade with Sovereign.
Even after Sovereign fell, the Heretics didn't go back and wage war on the other Geth or anything. There was no infighting. They planned to unite the Geth with the Reaper code that would change their thinking, but you foiled that in ME2. So if anything, they would have gotten much, much stronger leading up to and after ME2, depending on your actions since you could just realign the Heretics back with the main Geth.
The Quarian-Geth conflict is completely fucking retarded in its progression through the games.
>>322535763
I just beat the trilogy for the first time yesterday afternoon and i fucking chose the destroy ending and ended up vaporizing the entire earth and none of the normandy survived either. I also brought my love interest liar and garrus with me on the final mission and they both got killed by that fucking laser.
>>322548810
The Quarians were dumb as all fuck, everyone in the galaxy told them it was dangerous and dumb to create AIs for manual labor and they went bugshit crazy when the robots asked why are they doing the manual labor
>>322548860
You chose correctly, anon.
>>322549050
worst part is ME3 makes them even more retarded in that against ALL odds they actually succeeded in creating robots that wouldn't rebel outright, but freaked out and started shooting them when they asked if they were real people
>>322549050
The Robots didn't care about doing labour. They asked if they had souls and the Quarians sperged.
>>322541726
but the friiiiies
>>322549246
The resemblance isn't there and I don't even like Miranda.
>>322549390
It was partly fear of rebellion but also fear of galactic alliance, or whatever it's called, sanctions. AI development had been outlawed but fucking Quarians were doing it and were afraid that people would find out.
>>322536619
This is why men invented rape anon. Just rape her. All of the body, zero of the personality. It's win-win!
>>322549420
Does this unit have a soul?
>>322536619
Why do Quarians have human like asses?
https://twitter.com/manveerheir/status/656302806496886784
>I fight for intersectional diversity!
>I may also be racist against boogey man white people
how
>>322549612
And people found out anyway and they got kicked out of their system by the robots, no wonder everyone hates the Quarians, they manage to make a continuous fuck decades long
>>322549795
Because like all attractive aliens, they're really just humans with a different skin color or some other gimmick.
>>322549846
Prejudice + Power
If you don't have both you are free to do whatever you want.
>>322549846
>legend known as Curry Thunder
Does he not realize he's being racist himself?
>>322536619
I fell in love in ME1. Bad-ass chick with a shotgun and dem hips.
Then ME2 came around and turned her into clumsy waifubait and ME3 made her worse.
I hope Andromeda has a better quarian to wife.
>>322538993
They believed in the reapers when the counsel didn't. that's all the motivation Sheppard needed.
>>322549958
>quarians
>attractive
tali a shit
I let them get wrecked by the geth
then tali was all like MUH PATRIOTISM and jumped off a cliff lmao
>>322549846
Well, he's doing gameplay so there won't be any heavy handed SJW messages in the story right?
>>322535763
>anthropomorphism
>all the aliens looks like humans save for very minor differences
>>322548005
>took care of the planet
The fuck?
>>322550301
Still pissed we couldn't play as living tanks in the multiplayer.
>>322550210
LOL!
>>322550279You wont be able to shoot anyone, you'll have to protest about diversity until the alien threat gets frustrated
>>322549578
I played a demo a few years ago but didn't like the gameplay. I really want to get into the story though. Should I just pick this up?
>>322550431
I'm still pissed we got blueballed about visiting their homeworld
>>322550584
Still not there. You see patterns where they are none.
>>322550412
The quarian homeworld is the center of the geth empire.
If you make peace with both sides not-legion says they preserved the planet in the same state it was in before the war.
>>322549846
>2016
>still not realizing you can be racist against white people
when will they learn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9AqFWaA5U
>>322540806
>Then they ruined it by treating the Geth's physical platforms as "a Geth" and giving that an individual identity.
that was just legion tho, well until you give him the reaper code, and even then we dont know if theres only one geth in each platform afterwards
>>322550590
Honestly, no. It's pretty generic.
>>322549578
You don't like the king of pop, Miranda Cosgrove?
>>322543296
>implying the reapers cant just hack into organics too
>>322550885
legion clearly explains that is how all geth think
heck he's even reluctant to be named because in its mind it is Geth
only accepts the term Legion because its appropriate and there is some need to distinguish its platform from the rest of the geth
>>322550803
okay mate
just sounded weird saying they "took care of the planet" like its a dog or cat and quarians were going on vacation
>>322536249
I can't and I don't want to. Bioware has never been good.
>>322550914
>>322551030
Alright, thanks. I'll just watch some video summaries on Youtube.
>>322550795
lol. i cant see any patterns because they overlay virtually perfectly
>>322551157
I believe that Legion made a comment about them wanting their masters to come back to their homeworld one day in ME2 or something
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/X3Dd8jZ.jpg "images[1].jpg")
>>322551359
>Mass Effect 2: Still mostly old Bioware but with clear EA-Bioware influences
>Mass Effect 3: Completely EA-Bioware, no indication of what Mass Effect was originally intended to be
It's that simple.
>>322536249
Whenever I come to /v/ I feel like I'm insane for liking every Bioware game to some degree.
The only of their games I'd consider bad are ME2 and Baldurs Gate 1.
>>322551996
>ME2
>bad
>ME3
>not bad
You are indeed insane.
>>322551887
>I repeat regurgitated opinions until they become true in my head
>>322550093
>when the counsel didn't.
That is even more retarded than the the problems with Cerberus.
I wonder what Andromeda is going to be like. Hopefully it's not a complete piece of shit.
And they confirmed a multiplayer. I really hope it's as good as or better than ME3's. If they fuck that up I will be so fucking disappointed. I can just see them not letting you be different aliens and getting rid of the fun unlock system. God, why do people fuck things up so easily?
>>322541726
Is that Kanye?
>>322539335
ME2>ME1>ME3
Kill yourself
>>322547691
>what is Star Citizen
>>322552356
I thought it was the same team working on the multiplayer? If so then it should at least be decent.
>>322538738
you are wrong, 3 can't exist without 2 because 2 is where the journey happens, where all the characters are developed. 1 was a good start a good setup, 2 is the best part, the actual Mass effect game, and for reasons you probably are too young to understand, 2 has a story better than both 1 and 3 combined, that side-plot against the collectors was better and more consistent than everything to do with the reapers directly. 2 has the best characters, best atmosphere, best ending, best gameplay (fuck you EA forcing people to play online and integrating online things into single player), best soundtrack, and it's the main, the most important piece in the trilogy.
Get cancer and die
>>322552960
A scam?
2 while perhaps being the better game, was the worst thing to happen to the franchise
its what changed the tone to ensure ME3 was possible and it derived us of a much superior ME2, 3 and perhaps 4 that could have happened had ME1 been improved upon rather than just scrapping the less well received parts
ME1 was a rough diamond
ME2 was polished glass
>>322547026
Did you play the trespasser DLC?
What do you want from Andromeda?
>>322543730
>wanting to play a third person shooter with a controller
What's wrong with you
>>322554167
...but thats like, one of few times its actually okay, since that shit is auto-aim heaven or lock on city
>>322543730
ME1 has controller support with mods.
http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect/mods/60/?
>>322554417
It's still a point and click shooter. I see no reason why someone would prefer to play it with a controller
>>322554582
because a lot of these third person shooter have vehicles. analog control.
>>322554097
Story: I don't care anymore.
MP: Build upon ME3 and make it bigger.
>>322535763
Did anybody else save kaiden and regret it? I was romancing Liara and Kaiden was a bro and i took him on almost every mission so i let Ashley die then when he came back in ME3 he started hitting on me and it got all weird.
>>322535763
MASS EFFECT WAS FUCKING SHIT AND IF YOU LIKE IT YOU HAVE ACTUAL FIGURATIVE LITERAL SHIT TASTE
>>322539335
ME2 is pretty much regarded as the best game of the series. Only a few idiots on /v/ actually believe the first game was the best.
>>322535763
Does anyone actually play with custom male shepard? Every one i made looked like a monstrosity so i always went with default.
>>322555574
Something like 87% of all players used a custom Shepard. Bioware released the official player stats.
>>322555574
Default is a best. The Hair and facial hair was to shit to make a good custom Shepard.
>>322555574
I used default because it didn't look retarded
>>322548682
I like Jade Empire but I hope if they make a sequel they changed closed fist from HAHA I AM EVIL GUY to what they explained it actually was in the series
>>322555574
Default Soldier Male Paragon Shepard is the canon route no matter how much you faggots delude yourselves
>>322556104
Which ending though?
>>322546873
this guy gets it
>>322556181
Destroy, obviously.
>>322555296
Then what's a good game to play that is similar and superior?
>>322555420
its also regarded as doing many things wrong and ensuring the mass effect series as a whole never lived up to its full potential
mass effect 1 simply promised a lot more and a lot better than 2 gave
>>322556283
Thank fuck.
>>322538993
>cerberus are space nazis in number 1
You what.
They are a rogue black op team conducting illegal experiments trying to improve humanity in secret and hidden locations
Similar as they were in 2, small teams working as cells.
In 3 they are evil galactic empire with members all over the galaxy and able to infiltrate any planet with military forces bigger then all the other races.
it was dumb as shit
>>322556181
Bioware canon : Destroy
Logical canon : Control
Actual canon for Andromeda : Probably destroy since with reapers by their side there would be no reason for the citadel species to leave the milky way
Literally to fill the gap between the two and completely stupid non-canon: synthesis
"SEE? WE LISTEN TO YOU GUYS FIRST ENDING WAS JUST A PRANK XD" tier canon : shoot the kid ending
>>322556529
>Logical canon
>control
>implying a weak ass human mind could control the reapers
destroy is the only logical things from shep's pov
>>322554097
A better ending
An apology
Garrus
>>322555782
id love to see the stats on fallout 3
i only found out like a week ago your dads race changes depending on what you choose because literally everyone plays as white
pic related, white, asian, black and hispanic
>>322555198
>YFW Fembot EDI was one of Seth Green's demands for returning for ME3
>>322556656
Reapers didnu nothin. They were good boys.
>>322556656
ME1 reapers I believe you
but dumbass "SAVE YOU FROM URSELF" godchild controlled reapers could be easily controlled
Tali is best girl.
Literally no other competition.
>>322554097
I just want a good game. Enough story choices to make me want to replay it would be nice.
>>322556679
I think 4 does the same thing with your son
>Mass Effect 2
>"Shepard, we Geth enjoy being a hivemind, it is our unique way of living and it brings us unity."
>Mass Effect 3
>"SHEPARD WE HAVE ALWAYS AND FOREVER WANTED TO BE INDIVIDUALS"
>>322556893
even then, there is absolutely nothing hinting at control and synthesis being actual valid options for shepard
only thing he knows is some kid promises him that the device who's entire purpose up till now was to destroy the reapers can suddenly also control them if only he just grasps those bars which will vaporize him
not to mention the entire synthesis thing
gambling on the chance that it might actually be true is completely and utterly reckless and irresponsible, only real option is destroy
>>322556529
Does shooting the kid pretty much mean you failed and everything was destroyed? what the fuck. all the endings are garbage. Destroy is the only one that makes any sense.
>>322535763
Literally everything went to shit more and more with each consecutive game. You could name any random element of the series and see how it went to shit from 1 to 3. And if it was already shit in 1 then it just got even shittier.
>>322557028
you misspelled Liara
>>322557305
yet the ending clearly shows that shepard AI is a reality, worked out and now you control the reapers
>>322556464
Their jump from 2 to 3 was no worse than how they changed from 1 to 2.
>Everyone is still (reasonably) mad at day 1 in-disk locked character
>No one remembers when the ending was a DLC
Why?Did people start after 2 came out with all dlc?
>>322557550
the ending shows it clearly sure but there is absolutely and utterly nothing hinting at it being a valid option when presented to Shepard
its still in theory a roleplaying game after all and any shepard who actually picked anything other than destroy is either an idiot or an inconsiderate fool who just rolled the dice with the lives of everyone in the galaxy
>>322549846
What the fuck does "intersectional diversity" even mean?
>>322557572
Stop being retarded.
In number 1 and 2 they are still an operation that HAS to work in the shadows. They aren't completely unified and work in isolated cells.
In number 3 they are a massive galactic empire with infinite reach. Its a massive difference
>>322558042
So you'd rather destroy the reapers and fulfill your revenge fantasy than acquire an intergalactic overpowered police force? What guarantee is there that by blowing a fucking pipe the reapers will be destroyed according to your logic then? You'd just blow everything up including the relays? Make the people fighting on earth get stranded forever? Leaving rogue elements everywhere like Cerberus sleeping cells? Leaving the Krogans to their fate when there's a chance they'll rise again or that the fucking turians will want to massacre them again as soon as you are not looking? Would you not help rebuild , police and secure the galaxy?
Controlling the reapers is the only sane option for people who have the maturity to see that sometimes the best decision isn't driven by moral stand or personal feelings
>>322558194
>Plaster their logos on everything
>Have the tech and resources to bring Shepard back from the dead, build a bigger, better Normandy (with the Cerberus logo prominently displayed), hire the best mercenaries in the galaxy for his team, give him all sorts of intelligence for his missions, and have multiple large, well-furnished bases they can abandon without too much issue.
>Leader is obviously rich and well-connected
There's nothing remotely secretive about them, they're only shadowy because everyone else in the galaxy is too fucking stupid too notice them, just like they all dismissed the Reapers out of hand and do absolutely nothing about the Collectors abducting colonists.
Remember how Bioware wasted Buzz Aldrin on this piece of shit?
His only appearence in a video game is a garbage third person shooter with a shit plot. He's probably going to die soon, and this is the only mark one of the first men on the moon will make on the industry.
Makes me actually quite mad.
>>322557259
>Implying Legion didn't kill itself so it couldn't witness the bastardization of the Geth
>implying Mordin didn't kill himself to spare himself from a universe full of Krogan
>>322558569
And what does Shepard say after that?
>Paragon: The weak must be defended
>Renegade: The strong shouldn't be feared for their power
>Either way, I'm going to remake the galaxy as I see fit, anyone who gets in my way is getting fucked up
Not reassuring at all.
And thanks to the EC, Relays are now merely damaged and can be repaired.
>>322547338
>MY PEOPLE MY PEOPLE MY PEOPLE MY PEOPLE
She was a walking encyclopedia in ME1, all she did was talk about her race which was fucking pointless since she was the only Quarian in the galaxy for the entire first game
Also she was jailbait in ME1, wasn't legal until she completed her right of passage
>>322558938
>not remaking the galaxy as you see fit and fucking anyuone who gets in your way
So it's a subjective disagreement then. I personally think that shepard has the right to do so but I respect that you disagree anon and I can see your point
>>322558569
given the alternative to everything you just said is the complete annihilation of every intelligent creature in the galaxy
yes, yes its worth it
remember: nothing what so ever indicates controlling the reapers is possible throughout the whole 3 of the games.
>>322559203
and nothing indicates that their whole existence depends on the well-state of a big pipe in the citadel either
>>322559331
mass effect 1 showed with enough force the reapers can be destroyed
mass effect 2 shows with enough force the reapers can be destroyed
mass effect 3 is about gathering a huge amount of force in the one location it would hurt the reapers most
and suddenly a minute away from activating the thing some kid shows up out of nowhere and goes "oh I see you're trying to kill us, why not instead take this totally valid option of becoming our boss, guaranteed to work good sir, don't mind us trying to control the minds of everyone for millions of years, we're totally done doing that since about 5 minutes ago"
>>322552248
Did you play the fucking game?
>>322556679
> Black
>>322556529
Best canon: Dying at the end of Mass Effect 2, all ME3 is non-canon
>>322558569
I dont think controlling the reapers could possibly lead to anything good. nobody should have the power to wipe out all organic life like that. Destroying them makes the most sense. And I'm pretty sure the relays get destroyed no matter what ending you choose.
geth dindu nuthin and tim was right, fuck genocidal space gypos
>>322558653
>have their logos on everything
>that is outside of owned space
They work in the outer rims otherwise they are hidden.
In number 1 they are inside Alliance territory hence why there is no logos.
How can you not see the difference between a galactic empire that can assault the homeworld of the salarians to a group that works outside of owned space?
Having a bunch of money and technology isn't the same as having a massive standing army. Cerberus just wouldn't have the numbers it doesn't make any sense
>>322554097
I just want to roam space as a three man special ops unit with my bros. I really don't care about some "your choices matter" shit. I got invested into this series due to the setting and the characters. Give me some good side missions.
Also improved MP.
>>322559616
The three games actually pushed the point that the reapers can not be destroyed by force. Even when all the forces in the galaxy unite under your banner it's just to save time for the crucible and they clearly say so. There is no way any civilization can defeat the reapers by force
>>322546819
Why does it have N7 markings on it? for what purpose is a spec-ops cocktail dress?
>>322560081
trying to destroy them by force is still the best option they have
or at least destroying the mass relays by force severely fucks up the reapers plans forever
sure there's massive collateral but given everyone everywhere was going to be wiped out anyways: what's the big deal?
>>322556679
>white, asian, black and hispanic
>black isn't there
You motherfucker, I laughed
>>322548530
she's also the equivalent of a 16 year old. She's probably part of Space Anonymous and Migrant /pol/
>>322552297
I kind of liked that the counsel didn't buy into the reapers. It makes it more believable. The only actual reaper in Mass Effect 1 is Souvenir, and the rest of the enemies were all geth. What is more likely, that massive ancient machines are in complete control of the entire galaxy, or that the geth finally came came out of hiding to start war against organics.
>>322560653
>The only actual reaper in Mass Effect 1 is Souvenir
YOU ARE NOT COLLECTIBLE
>>322560294
same reason the navy and military have all that goofy dress attire. graduation days, ceremonies, photo ops, so on, so fourth
