About to start pic related.
What am i in for and do you guys have any tips?
It's a fairly hard game, don't be afraid of grinding a lot. The earlier you start the better off you will be.
Don't.
>>322458335
do this
>>322458430
farm as much as you can as soon as you are able, hen the game will even out, if not, it'll be fucking hard.
>>322458335
>>322458430
grind that halt!
>>322458430
Kek
>>322458335
PC or the gay version?
>>322458335
PC version has a much better balance than 360 (which was, as I heard, totally fucked in that department). Grinding is actually partially viable, as your stats grow faster than enemies'. That said, grinding is not useful until you're right at the end of the game and you'll only make your life harder by doing it.
So, basically:
1) Gather as many monsters in battle as possible for stat growth
2) Try to keep your BR low (though don't be afraid of it increasing)
3) Don't grind
4) Finish all quests before going toAqueducts.
generics are better than leaders if powered up right
>>322458846
you don't have to finish all quest before the aqueduct there are specific quest that have to be done
Say hi to this guy for me.
>>322459036
beating him on low br was hell trying to do it under 20 br is next to impossible unless you really know the mechanics
>>322458846
>>322459217
Wait so you need to keep your Br low but not too low or the game gets impossible too? What the fuck is this game?
>>322459036
>tfw had no problems with it
I died only once to him because I forgot to buy the herbs before going in the dungeon and my magic healer was killed.
>>322459349
Low BR run is like FFIX lvl1 run. You don't really do it on your first playthrough. Just play it normally, that's what I did.
>>322459349
no not really in the PC version is more important in the xbox 360 version.
the only thing you really have to realize in the pc version is to take on a bunch of mobs at once or you won't really benefit from the fight.
If this is your first playthrough i wouldn't worry about things like classes until you get a thorough understanding of what atks build what stats up
>>322459510
I only did a low br run since i beat the crap out of the 360 version. The most painful thing about the 360 version was hunting rare monsters. They had alot less chance than the pc version
>>322458430
DONT DO THIS
THE ENEMIES ESCALATE
>>322458335
http://lastremnant.wikia.com/wiki/PC_Tweaking
You're in for an overcomplicated game that doesn't explain how anything works, but is fucking awesome if you get into it.
Best thing Square has made in nearly a decade.
>>322458335
Get ready for a challenging but otherwise bland RPG.
Like a bread sandwich.
>>322458335
read the wiki on how to develop your main guys and try to think up a good composition the rest will kind of fall into roles but the squad leaders decide how fucked you may get the rest is keeping up with the requirements to get them to the classes you want them to be because some of the requirements are pretty rigorous and nothing tells you if you are doing it right
>>322459678
enemies don't escalate until you pass a certain br for them and by the aqueducts you are suppose to be around 40br. So if you want to play cheap you rush it till the aqueducts and do grinding for about 10br you should be able to handle 2 Barbarossa groups at once when your br is 15
>>322459876
I thought it was pretty good didn't push any amazing new areas story wise but the ending was solid.
>A wild Conqueror appears!
>>322460013
>no lube
>>322459349
BR has nothing to do with your party's strength. Never think this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNo2KFgIhA
This is BR 9 or 10 or something
>>322459979
did you use more leaders or soldiers when you first played it?
>>322460013
That nigga looked pretty cool for a jrpg villain
>>322460113
fuck i was double that at that point and i was having trouble with his cheap ass enthrall
post a key
>>322460013
I had more problems with the Enlightened Seven, but that guy was a real fucker that I pretty much only beat through sheer luck.
By comparison the hardest version of the final boss has more HP but is way easier otherwise.
>>322460013
>we will never get the full version of last remnant that was suposed to have a conqueror storyline AND multiplayer
Is it better to make your union full melee/magic or mix it up?
>>322460369
have specialty unions mixing just limits you
>>322460369
Full melee/magic if I'm remembering right.
>>322460220
I want his hair
>>322460369
Full focus
>tfw I want to play this now
>>322460423
>>322460467
>>322460530
Ok, thanks, hope i'll remember it when I try the game again
>>322460369
Full melee/magic, with the caveat that pretty much every union should be able to heal somehow.
It's how you mitigate the randomness of battle commands - have each union specialize in specific types of arts, and disable all the ones they don't use. That way you never have to worry about the wrong commands coming up, or certain members of a union not doing anything on some turns.
>>322460220
He WAS cool, mainly because of how he was presented as a real fucking threat.
>try to stop his army
>meanwhile, hecomes to your town ALONE and KILLS BEST CHARACTER and takes a huge-ass sword.
>>322460369
Went full specialisation. Though I had at least one healer (either with potion or magic) in each union.
>>322460369
the only magic you want in a full melee group is revitalize but you can get around it with potions
>>322460608
you'll want one healer in each group like
>>322460615
said because a lot of the endgame is a revive fest
>>322458335
Game was pretty good but fuck square for basically killing Emma off then one second later having an exact clone of her appear. Like comeon have some loss in your game so that you remember it more.
>>322460535
Every time a TLR thread comes up I think about playing it again, and then decide not to because it took me ~150 hours to 100% complete it last time and I have a hell of a JRPG backlog.
It's a pretty great game though. Not for everyone but I like it a lot.
>>322458335
I was hoping when this game was released dlc would of come out to play as the conquer like it was originally intended.
Reminder to new anons to only use Unique units (ones with flavor text).
They have much more room for growth than Generics. Also voice acting and unique models which are fun.
You can go through the game without recruiting a single non-unique (since you can get Baulson the second you're given free reign). Although many players will take on McGrady/Oakes at the start because they feel they lack firepower.
Also don't fucking touch Soldiers unless you wanna gimp yourself.
other things
>party members upgrade weapons automatically using mats you harvest from the field/split from monster
>when a character asks you about their focus, that determinestheir weapon upgrade path
>when a character asks to learn something new there's no reason to say no when you can just disable it afterwards
>>322459036
He's absolute unfair bullshit on the 360 version.
Not so much on the PC version, but still tricky.
>>322459036
>turn 1 wipe the mobs
>turn 2 pray he doesn't rape you
>turn 3 if you are still alive pray to RNJesus that he doesn't rape you here either
>repeat steps 2 and 3 till you win
so much rage
>>322460220
>>322460013
it was explicitly designed to pander to western audiences, the japs didn't like him so much, which is why the game was a flop there and why we won't get a last remnant 2 ever.
>>322461086
you forgot to mention union formations can play a major role in whether your party will win a fight or lose it
>>322460857
Well, you could speak with Emmy on numerous occasions, so it's not like she came out of nowhere.
>>322461298
it's not that she exists it's that she is an exact clone with the scar removed and the hair less gray and afterwards she really doesn't even do anything noteworthy anymore shes just "there"
A whole lot of
>Let's kick some A!
also good music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8yg8mfvESs
>>322461086
Baulson is my fucking nigga
He's one of the only really early-game units that I kept around for the entire game. He's a physical powerhouse, he's a good healer, and he's one of the only uniques (maybe the only one, I can't remember) who can use Fafnirsbane, which is statistically one of the strongest weapons in the game, if not the strongest. Only downside is his lack of class options and the fact that Fafnirsbane has no Weapon Art, so you don't really want to use him as the leader of a union.
WHY THE FUCK DO JAPS ALWAYS GASP AND ACT SURPRISED AT LITERALLY EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAYS??
>>322458335
Don't bother
>>322461286
It's a shame I also thought he looked pretty great he's like that old guy who's about to fuck your shit up. I'd donate to a last remnant kickstarter if it was made.
>>322461526
>Smash 'em from the sides!
>Attack them from their flank!
Some of the voice clips from that game are burned into my brain forever.
Don't listen to anyone in this thread. Instead go read the wiki. Seriously.
This shit is even harder then the Souls series if you have no idea what you're doing.
>>322461680
>Check this out!
>>322461526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnVq7vhuUU8
>>322460857
Ah yes, the Lavitz/Albert Effect.
>>322461526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVTxQvZ09IU
>>322461736
>>>>>>>
This is the first TLR thread I've seen on /v/ that's actually offering appropriate advice instead of the "dark souls of rpgs dont ever ever grind even for a second" meme that you're perpetuating.
>>322462175
i think it was worse cause albert at least played into the story and lavitz made a return this one just had her appear say a speech then become the same as the other no name soldiers you had like her story was done
just out of curiosity who here versed The White Conqueror on their first play through?
Sequel/spiritual successor when?
>>322462928
I did. I 100% completed the game on my first playthrough.
Beat him on my first try through complete chance. Every union was dead except for Emmy's, which was on extremely low HP, and there was basically no way in hell I'd be able to recover. Then Emmy triggered Hundred Flowers and it did just enough damage to finish him off before he could kill me.
>>322463080
wasn't this a spiritual successor of the saga games?
It's shit.
It really is.
Don't waste your time, OP.
Go replay Final Fantasy 6.
It's the second best RPG ever made
>>322463338
I had no idea you could fight him until I done my second play through and decided to look at the wiki for all the stuff I missed on my first run, I'm just thankful I didn't decide to do it on the xbox360 version. Freaking took me over 10 attempts to do him. Id get close then i would fuck up
>>322458335
One piece of advice I never see posted in these threads is to make sure you visit the guild houses to turn in whatever guild tasks you might have finished by coincidence. This is because you need those task rewards to unlock drops from monsters which you will need for your party to upgrade their equipment. So in other words, if someone needs butterfly eyes or whatever, then you'll only get them to drop from butterflies after you've turned in a specific guild task to receive 'butterfly weekly' or something like that, which enables them to drop.
For me I went through over half the game without turning them in and wondering when I'd get up to the point where I'd start getting the drops I need for my party, only to find out I needed those rewards and had to go back to farming weak monsters for those drops after I had them enabled.
>>322463801
yeah, well, you're shit
>>322464020
I thought they tell you about guild tasks in the beginning. I figure you would normally check your guild task after every quest since it only takes about a min
>>322464317
I didn't really give a shit at first because the initial rewards were some gold and blueprints, so I'd only check them off if I went to the guild to recruit someone.
>>322463801
care to elaborate or are you just going to Project that OP has played final fantasy 6?
>>322464465
yea i did that mistake too the first time I went up to the aqueducts before i decided to check the guild tasks and holy shit i had about 20 tasks that were claimable (mainly because i didn't unlock the other guilds)
A really fun game ruined by not letting you directly equip your party members and level scaling that encourages you to run from every enemy.
70% good but the rest was lazy design, worth a playthrough but maybe use cheats.
>>322465753
>ruined
nah if you plan it right everything will go your way
>>322465753
Actually, you can grind and still beat the game fairly easily, I've killed the Fallen and Whatshisname clone in the Paths with 100+ BR. If you have proper skills leveled up, it doesn't really matter what BR you are.
Do grind but only grind in the right way. Google Bai Ze and PC ultimate grind. There is not much in this game aside from how to grind because battle despite looking complicated is mostly attack heal.
>>322466265
hueheuhueheuhueheuhueheu
>>322458335
You know what guys? You've convinced me. I should grab this game
>look up the store page
>it's already in my steam library
I honestly have no idea when that happened.
>it's even already installed
I really need to fucking get a grip on myself when these sales happen.
I think I dropped it twice on that... battle... how do I describe it... There was an arrow flying near the head of that king or prince or whatever.
Now it turns out that >>322465492
I really want to try again to prove that I don't always suck dickbut I fear that I do.
M-maybe later. I have a backlog too.
>>322468350
that battle can screw you over due to how the ai acts in their turns
>>322458335
DO
NOT
GRIND
EVER
In fact, don't even fucking fight anything except essentials
>>322468350
If you keep on losing a battle especially when its that early just stop playing for the day and give it a try the next day to save yourself some frustration. When you get up to the aqueducts though it normally is your formation that is screwing you up
>>322468560
>DO
>NOT
>GRIND
>EVER
This is only relevant to xbox 360.
>>322465492
This thread was so meoldramatic, even on Xbox the game is not so hard to get through and there is not that many skills for your character in the first place.
The only annoying thing is that skill types for Rush only unlock by doing specific sidequests and that a lot of skills and spells are flat out useless.
Sup faggots, remember me?
Of course you do, I taught you how to play the game properly
>>322468669
Not really, beat it at launch on the 360 with BR 140+.
>>322463715
It has a ton of mechanics from the SaGa games. So if you ended up liking a lot of the mechanics from TLR then it is highly advisable to check out the SaGa series.
>>322468669
It still punishes you on PC for grinding to a slightly lesser extent
>>322460013
FUCKING NIGGER WHY WOULDNT YOU DIE
>>322468976
It's much more linear that the SaGa games though.
>>322458335
Remember to enable Vsync from your GPU control panel. The screen tearing in the game is horrible.
>>322460857
Emma is my waifu.
And she always will be.
>>322458335
leave the quest The Cosmos Maiden
until you have max unions an characters allowed 18 then do the quest and keep suspending the quest after you kill Bai Ze for weapon and stat grinding upto 80br
>>322458335
HAHA TIME FOR THE WIKI
>>322469059
Not all SaGa games are open world.
>>322469274
Romancing SaGa is completely open and I remember when I played Final Fantasy Legends on gameboy and the Frontier games it took me a long ass time to figure out just what to do.
>>322469392
All three Final Fantasy Legend games on the Gameboy are linear and same with SaGa Frontier 2. So that is at least four linear games in the series.
I suggest you to go back to the first two Gameboy games to refresh your memory. They are short games anyway and it is always fun to go with different party combinations.
>>322458335
no story at all, boring turn based combat system, but it is challenging.
>>322469479
Maybe.
Seems they got DS remakes or something.
>>322468825
there are areas where over grinding gets you in the xbox version the first one being the gates of hell boss and when you fight the conquers underlings. Those are the only 2 that come to mind
>>322458335
Enroll this fucker.
>>322469750
GOAT until you get Zolean
>>322461286
Talk about shit fucking taste.
>>322468926
First time through this asshole nearly made me quit the damn game.
Replayed TLR over the last week and thoroughly kicked the shit out of everything in the game with the exception of Lost and White Conqueror. I ended the game at BR 90 so I'm sure I could've ground out some more and finished both of them off.
Even Rank 8 Conq wasn't that bad. War God is a toss of the dice, though.
>>322470502
Honestly the japs wouldn't recognize a good game if it attempted a military coup and made himself Sudoku after having failed.
>>322470650
>tfw
I started playing this game, but the story has so many weird elements, shit mixed up that just looked retarded, fucking cat people with waist arms, I really couldn't tolerate the random retardation. I miss when JRPGs didn't need to be pants on head retarded.
>>322471072
>>322458335
my tip is to refund it
it's a jrpg about grinding, the ennemies get stronger and stronger as your grind
it's a retarded decision
>Overkill
>Overkill
>Overkill
>Overkill
>Overkill
>Overkill
>>322471585
>Iron Will
AND THEN EVERYONE FUCKING DIED
>>322471585
Fuck me, that UI.
>>322468926
>I taught you how to play the game properly
all he taught me was that rng is a bitch
>>322468926
Nest of Eagles was more of a bitch
I've had this game in my steam library for years, maybe it's time to try it out, i have been looking to play an RPG lately, i have this, FFXIII-2 and Undertale to choose from and i'm not really feeling Undertale right now.
Should i pick this over FFXIII-2?
>>322472410
Honestly my familia, XIII-2 is mediocre, TLR is great.
Trust me I'm white.
One point that can't be stressed enough is, don't forget to restock on herbs and casting components. Otherwise you'll go into battle and wonder why the healing option never turns up. After cursing at the game and its mechanics for a while, you'll then realize that you only have yourself to blame, because you forgot to buy herbs, so the appropriate healing command never turned up during those fights.
>>322472857
>99 of each components
>that faggot with the massive tincture refuses to use it
>>322473018
Can happen. Depends on the circumstances though.
>>322471585
Yeah cool shit Milton, now try it against a shield user
>shield bash
>shield bash
>shield bash
>shield bash
>shield bash
Is there a way to lower the BR?
I'm rather early, but get beaten to shit by one of the first proper bosses due having accidentally increased the BR too much while grinding for drops, and not really specialized as i should have. Grinding is obviously out of the question.
How do you even increase BR? Amount of battles won?
>>322468926
>first time playing on 360
>went into the aqueducts without stacking up on herbs
>no one knew revive
>no vivification herbs
>BR was at least 60 from the incessant grind I through was necessary earlier in the game
>get through the first boss with ease
>gates of hell spanks my ass over and over until the RNG works in my favor for once and I managed to win with one union left
>hit jager/lob omen fight
>literally cannot win
>no saves right before the aqueducts
>quit the game for months
On the bright side, when I went through it again, I made sure to be a fucking overpowered piece of shit with all side missions done before the Aqueducts and beat those fucks like they were regular enemies.
>>322461526
I loved the shit out of this battle theme here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQXIhUhIg1U
Always got me pumped up. The combination of the good bgm themes, situational battle comments and finally having a squad set up that works like a well oiled machine felt fucking great.
Shame the game wasn't moddable. With a few tweaks here and there this could have easily been a timeless classic that doesn't even require an in-depth study of the wiki.
>>322458335
I hear square was working on a new game that wasn't dragon quest or final fantasy in November, is there hope for a sequel?
>>322474982
Stop dreaming m8.
>tfw you enjoy grinding in your jrpgs
>>322475132
if you take my dreams away what hope do i have left anon?
>>322474752
Same situation, the aqueducts literally made me quit the game years ago.
Haven't beaten it since, I'll try again this year
>>322468161
its from the Square Enix Humble Bundle
>>322474982
I always hoped for a prequel, that would let you play as the young first emperor, when he did all the awesome shit you hear about during TLR. Tons of opportunities for foreshadowing and headed for a bittersweet ending.
>>322475184
I know i do, seeing the fruit of your labor is awesome.
>>322474982
You mean November 2011, the last news link on the Last Remnant in your steam library?
>>322474982
>>322475184
you deserve to suffer
>>322475701
Well fuck I was reinstalling for this thread and didn't look at the year.Let me live in my delusions a bit longer.
>>322468560
Eh, that's really unnecessary and rather unfun. I'd say don't go out of your way to grind, but don't run from fights either. Basically kill what's in front of you while doing quests, maybe go kill some random mobs that drop the shit you need for a weapon upgrade.
>TLR is eight years old now
There's never going to be a sequel/prequel/spin off.
Oddly enough the games site is still up.
I want to bully Pagus!
>>322476169
Khrynia was cute, but also incredibly annoying.
>>322475579
I'd be down with it but I really want a sequel Rush kinda grew on me towards the end.
>>322476310oh em gee, doubleu tee eff.
Are there any waifu material in this game? I can't remember anyone obsessing over any character in this game.
>>322476493
Personally I'd rather go with a sequel as well. The minor lines after the credits always get me. I want to know what the fuck happened.
Rush wasn't initially terrible and he got better as the game progressed.
>>322476661
Some are cute, but that's it. The MC's imouto has a really sweet oniichan, if that's worth anything.
Fuck the asshole who made the requirements for the duke of Ghor quest.
Did everything the wiki said and still could not activate it. It was the last thing i needed to 100% too.
Fuck everything.
>>322476661
There's not really a ton of characterization outside of Emmy/Emma and Irina. Difficult to waifu anyone with so little attention.Kate, Nora, and Hannah/Hinnah personally.
>>322476790
>Kate
So you like men?
>>322476661
I have a huge thing forPagusbut I keep it to myself 99% of the time.
Weapon arts and those synergy arts like Blackout were so damn satisfying in the game. And I can't stress enough how nice it is to go save the world with a small army instead of 5 chosen faggots, who may or may not succeed. If the world is at stake, let me bring in appropriate numbers to a fight to do so.
>>322476493
Yeah, Rush grows on you a lot during the game, so I wouldn't mind a sequel.
>>322476790
>Hannah/Hinnah
Having the same jap VA for both characters make them both incredibly appealing.
>>322477214
Bro it's Miyuki Sawashiro. Of course it's appealing.
>>322476905
It's a rough-and-tumble DBG. How can I not be interested?
>>322474752
I kept spamming until I got a cyclops summon in that fight, which tanked for me and kept the pressure off my actual units.
>>322476790
What, no love for this cute bubblehead?
>Never really enjoyed grinding
>Go into this game blind
>Start enjoying grinding in this game
>Find out it'll fuck you over unless you know the obscure mechanics, which you won't until very late game
The one time i really was in the mood to just grind all day, it was the JRPG where it's not wise.
>>322478228
It's just grinding wrong(only fighting weak shit) that screws you over. PC ultimate grind is the best way.
>>322477175
This is how you do cat-folk in your games devs. No cutesy agility/rogue shit, only quadra-wielding, axe-swinging badasses.
>>322478547
This, if you grind high-level mobs, you will steamroll through everything apart from a few chosen optional bosses.
>>322478813
What about cute agility/rogue, quadra-wielding, axe-swinging badasses?
>>322479082
No.
>>322478813
>axe-swinging badasses.
Dual wield spears m8.
