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>The game was a simulation the entire time. >This plot
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>The game was a simulation the entire time.
>This plot point was meant to emphasize the fact you're playing a videogame.
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Did you say "nerd"?
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>>322451053
they promote you on the last fucking chapter...
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>>322451053
Fuck Star Ocean 3
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>>322451053
It was surprising in Neoquest 2
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>>322451053
>you play as a guy who is playing a game, but all you ever see is the game screen so it doesn't even matter anyway and it just makes you feel disconnected from the game
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Why do Royfags exist?
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>>322451947
>implying AC isn't the best series for exploring old cities

If you ever liked anything else in AC you're a homossexual.
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>In the worst ending you fight the protagonist.
>In the best ending you don't fight the antagonist.
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>>322452430
but anon I actually liked the modern day segments, before they became about abstergo being a fucking VIDEO GAME company, god that was fucking stupid. what made the dna memory thing cool was hooking up to a matrix machine to explore YOUR ancestor's memories.
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>>322452523

What shitty ass game is that?

Sounds like pretentious indie shit.
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>>322453000
I'll give you a hint by going into further detail.

>Worst ending you're basically the antagonist.
>Neutral ending you get in the way of everyone's ambitions and escape alone.
>Best ending you convince a little kid to sacrifice everything in order to benefit everyone else.
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>>322453000
Live a Live, a japanese snes game.
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>>322452523
>>322453471
There is no protagonist in undertale.
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>>322452523
I know I'm being a pedantic shit here but the playable character is always the protagonist whether they are heroic or villainous
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>>322453554

But I played that, and I remember fighting the final boss.
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>>322453471
>>322453715

Oh shit, it was actually Undertale.

Oh god, that's so funny.
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>>322453850
He's completely wrong though. There is no real protagonist in undertale but considering what >>322453738 said, the player character is the protag no matter what. In addition to that, there really is no real antagonist aside from the final bosses because everyone in the game is a victim of circumstance.

Seriously, can't you go back to shitting on games you've played?
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>>322454031

But I have played Undertale.

I didn't even notice that's the game he was referring to, I'm just sick of this SJW no violence shit.
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>>322451691
So what happened to the Vendini or w/e the fk they were called.
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>>322454364
But one of the point's undertale makes is that your choices have consequences. You can murder people if you feel your actions are justified to. It's just that the pacifist ending happens to be the one where people are the most happy, probably because, well, nobody (to anyone else's knowledge) died and everyone got to get out. It's a predictable, cliche'd, and yet logical ending.

One of the biggest points undertale tried to make in it's genocide ending was that choices in videogames are ultimately predictable because otherwise the player wouldn't feel at fault for anything he's done, thus making it feel less like a videogame. The game basically shits on interactive story-videogames and instead advocates for non-interactive storytelling mediums, aka, literature and film, because what you do in a videogame is ultimately pointless. It's just fun, mindless killing.
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>>322455296

So it's just Hotline Miami?
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>>322451053
>The game was a simulation the entire time.
>The simulation is designed to turn the protagonist into a cold blooded killer.
>This plot point was meant to emphasize the fact that videogames don't make people violent.
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>>322455728
It's hotline miami but better executed, more convincing, has even more interpretable points/meanings/messages, and it doesn't contradict itself with a seuqel.
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>>322455846

Nice opinion, but I disagree.
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>>322455779
Harvester is garbage, interesting but absolute garbage.
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>>322451053
Pure hatred.
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>>322456000
I agree, nice trips btw.
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>>322455957
It's objective that HM2's sequel contradicts the point of HM1, it's objective that it has more interpretable points/meanings/messages, it's objectively more convincing because this point is drilled into you by giving convincing examples and arguments throughout the entire narrative as opposed to just a stupid ending, and it's better executed because it all isn't just thrown in at the ending.

Disagree all you like, but that's like disagreeing with your scale. Sorry, bub, if it says 305lb as you stand on it, naked, that means you're 305lb.
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the game is called life
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>>322456146

HM2 was a deconstruction of Hotline Miami.

I'm sorry you didn't understand it.
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>>322453715
>There is no protagonist in undertale.

Protagonist means main character, everything has a protagonist.
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>>322456410
>Protagonist means main character
Can people be this fucking dumb?
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>>322452523
>in the worst ending you have to 1v9 your entire party

Based Xilia2
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>>322456146

>Hitting someone over the head with a hammer is a better way to get your message across than subtlety

Undertalefags actually believe this.
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>>322456501
But Undertale gives these examples as subtle as possible. HM1 is the one that hit's your head with a hammer with it's retardedly paced and unconvincing ending that only appeals to people who agree with it.
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>rpg
>party members gain no xp if dead at the end of a battle
>mages fall behind, become easier to kill and eventually end up worthless without grinding

This is the most convoluted and backwards thinking in video game history, yet games still do this in 2016. Fucking why?
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>>322452352
because he's the best lord in the series
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>>322456640

But it never does it.

You just go around killing people the entire game, and masked man asks you if you enjoy hurting people.

There's only one sequence where you don't kill people, and it's intentionally designed to be the worst stage in the game.

And that's it.

It's nowhere near the level of Undertale's

>why did you kill my friend
>meme flower shows up
>LOL YOU'RE A MONSTER YOU ENJOYED KILLING HIS FRIEND, RIGHT? US DEMONS HUH?
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>>322456451
you're a goddamn idiot
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>>322456937
>why did you kill my friend
>meme flower shows up
>LOL YOU'RE A MONSTER YOU ENJOYED KILLING HIS FRIEND, RIGHT? US DEMONS HUH?
literally never happened and if it did it was way better executed than this.
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>>322457047
>and if it did it was way better executed than this

I think I'm getting played with at this point.
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