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Halo 4 was so much better. I hate this bullshit req system. Why did they get rid of loadouts?
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Req system and random rewards is shit yes but 5 is a huge improvement over 4. Loadouts were fucking cancer
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>>322451139
Why?
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>>322451389
CoD features belong in CoD games, not Halo
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>>322451389
Because they don't fit well with halo gameplay and basically just cater to ADD 10 year olds who want their epic OP gun instantly
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Halo 5 is better in literally every other aspect. Shit, the mp gameplay might be the best the halo franchise has ever seen.
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>>322451756
4's campaign shits all over 5
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>>322451842
They were both shit so who cares about the campaign when comparing 4 and 5.

5's multi is significantly better though
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>>322451842
5's campaign is really, really shit. The more interesting locations and larger battles help are the only good parts at all

But even then, 4 is still a bit worse imo. They need to fire their fucking writer.
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>>322450401
Halo 1: AR+pistol start
Halo 2: AR+pistol start
Halo 3: AR+pistol start
Halo 4: loadouts
Halo 5: AR+pistol start except in warzones
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Is there any other FPS this gen which has multiplayer as balanced and fun as Halo's?
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>>322452115
>Halo 2
>AR
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Multiple complaints when it comes to 5 vs 4.
>aiming is somehow different. Two sensitivity options vs the 1 in halo 4.
> overshields are terrible in 5. I had two dmr headshots and a melee and still no die. That would've been instant kill in 4.
> no loadouts
> no couch co op
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>>322451842
The campagin or the story?

I can see somebody argue the former but the latter means you either don't know an ounce about the the lore or haven't paid attention for the stories from the past 3 fucking games

>>322451687
>>322451730
Not him, but I think it works fine in specific modes designed around it. Invasion and Warzone are fun despite you being able to select what you spawn with, or if it's just in it's own playlist, it can be fun at times, it just shouldn't be the default.

I'd be totally fine with being able to pick standard stuff where it makes sense though, like being able to go with the carbine instead of the BR in BR slayer.
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>>322452117
Black Ops 3
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>>322450401
>Armor gets less green and more detailed as the years get on plus shinier visor.

He does look the best in Halo 4 though desu
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>>322452181
They kind of fixed the aiming when they introduced the ability to adjust deadzones and the acceleration. Made a huge difference.

I've heard literally nobody want loadouts, it doesn't fit at all in arena fps style gameplay, it works in warzone fine but that's quite different. Overshields are perfect as they are. No couch coop is big miss for sure.
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>>322452280
If there was more armor in the midsection it'd be really good.

Still alright tho.
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>>322452280
I still prefer Halo 3 the most, its simple.
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In halo 4 I consistently had a minimum of 20 kills abs was always one of the top three players. In 5 I consider myself lucky if I can even get 10 kills and be in the top 5.
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>>322452583
Are you trying to say the game is bad because you suck at it? 5 balanced all the guns more than any other halo game so now everybody is on a more even playing field. If you aren't doing well in it's because you're not very good
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>>322452583
I have the same issue. I think it's because I relied too much on my loadouts. In 5 you have to deal with what they give you. I don't live long enough to want to bother picking a special weapon just to lose it when I die.
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>>322452728
I just don't get how I dominated in 4, but do so poorly in 5?
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>People actually considering 4 and 5 worthwhile topics of debate and discussion.

Halo ended with Reach folks.
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>>322452831
Because the weapons weren't balanced well and loadouts.
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>>322452834

Whoops I meant ODST
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>>322452831
It's easy when you have instant jet pack, or dmr....etc. starting out with an ar and pistol force about even playing field.
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>>322452834
Halo ended with 2 (multiplayer wise).
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>>322452937
Reach wasn't that bad, people judge it too harshly.
If you think of it as an "expansion pack" it makes more sense

Halo did die when Bungie left it though
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Might as well just kill myself lads.
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Loadouts are fucking garbage and ruined Halo. Go play cowadooty.
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>>322453038
>buying req packs
Why, they're not even hard to get and warzone reqs aren't worth money
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>>322453123
I got bored and was just buying them.
Didn't even really realise I was doing it.
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>>322452178
The BR is the AR of halo 2
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Lads while I'm talking to some Xbox users can you guys do me a favour.

Report the name JAYISBENT on Xbox live?
I'd really appreciate it.
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>>322453249
Bullshit, you know you fucked up when you gotta lie on an anonymous imageboard.
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>>322453395
fuck off, Jay's little brother
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>>322453103
I don't play call of duty. I've been playing halo since day 1 and want to stick with it. I just happen to like 4 the best so far.....besides ce of course.
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>>322453249
How can you be that stupid
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I've been chasing the Halo 3 dragon for many years. Had great times with that game that nothing recent has really come close to feeling like.
So here is something. I didn't care much for Halo 4, I thought it was fine but it didn't scratch the itch that the bungie games did and I left it pretty quickly.

I picked up The Taken King over Christmas.
Now, I understand that Destiny was a bit of a mess when it came out a year ago, but playing for it for the first time in a post Nolan North world?
A lot of those missions and landscapes give me huge Halo vibes. Different parts are reminding me of the different bungie games in the series.
This is all campaign wise, multiplayer doesn't scratch that halo itch.
But their level design, enemies, weapon feel and art direction. I'm getting huge Halo vibes. The world does feel a little vapid though.
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>>322453348
No it's not
in 2, the pistol became the BR and the AR became the SMG

They also had SMG/pistol starts for a while, and it was shit.
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4 was pretty good
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>>322453510
I wasn't gonna spend the money on anything else.

It's addictive though, like gambling.
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>>322453494
4 is full of ten year olds who can't aim

That's why people like it

Because its extremely easy to be good at

The game itself is fucking garbage (multiplayer, forge AND campaign. At least in halo 5 the forge and multiplayer are pretty good)
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>>322453590
the story ain't as bad as 5, i'll give it that
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>>322453613
Except unlike gambling, there's no chance of a big payout. You only dig yourself deeper
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>>322453538
the SMG is the BR of halo 2
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>>322453697

There's so much of that sentence that doesn't make sense
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>>322453590
Halo 4 on the 360 is good. Have you played it on mcc? It's like it's a different game.
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>>322453681
I got some right mythics though.
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>>322453661
so is 4's campaign good or not?
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>>322453768
It's shit on 360

They fixed up the garbage balance and gametypes a bit when they put it on MCC at least, its a bit more tolerable than the original
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>>322453819
That's not a payout, just teasing you to buy more.
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>>322453821
It's shit. People will tell you its good because "chief shows more emotion and feels human" and "chief and cortana's story develops"

But those are the only 2 slightly good things, while literally EVERYTHING else is like a shitty fan fiction

As far as I'm concerned, chief's story ended in halo 3 where it was supposed to
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>>322453395
Have done mate
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>>322453821
Its decent.
Decent level design, a little too enclosed compared to my favourite missions of the series but they are well done.
HORRIBLE story
Boring music
New enemies aren't great.
The tron art direction is kinda cool.

Its fine. Halo in the past was better than fine, most of the time anyway.
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>>322454017
I disliked the tron-ish art direction

Having the forerunner structures just be "super shiny things with floating pieces and glowing lines" is just really bland and has been done by so many games, movies, etc in science fiction
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>>322454017
The worse offense of 4 and a lot of 343s writing imo is writing all the lore for forerunners and ancient human bullshit.

One of my favorite things about the original trilogy and why I loved Halo and CE so much was the sense of mystery it held regarding the subject. I really fucking hate they gave it so much story it ruins it
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Halo 4 had some beautiful graphics
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>>322454370
If by beautiful graphics you mean

Super low resolution texture land with terrible framerate masked by a blinding fog of lighting bloom covering whichever half of the map the sun is on

Halo reach looked better
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>>322453835
Anything on the mcc is garbage
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>>322454457
>complains about framerate
>praises Reach
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>>322451389
Not balanced.

Everyone would just pick dmr or battle rifle, and everyone else would get fucked.

In 5 and classic halo, everyone starts the same, and battles for map control for the better weapons that spawn.
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>>322450401
>two more detailed than 3 even at low res
>not overdesigned like 4
how the fuck do people think anything but two is the best?
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>>322454457
Beats 5. Great Spartans....surroundings made me think I was playing n64
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>>322454516
I have fun on the CE and 2 playlists when they actually work.

If 2s servers still worked I'd still play it
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>>322453038
Fucking why? At least just buy that bundle pack and be patient you idiot. As long as you unlock the dmr or battle rifle, your basically golden in warzone.
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>>322454457
You know 4 had better graphics, art direction, and framerate compared to reach, right?

Reach was shit with its dark n so real graphics. Halo always did better having a little bit of colors.
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>>322454516
When it does decide to work, its alright.

You're more limited in playlists, but 4 was much better on MCC. Last I played they didn't have any of the loadouts or ordinance or perks fuckery.

>>322454610
Ehhh... I still dunno. The Spartans had some pretty low res textures, and 80% of the armor designs made me want to puke. Fucking unicorn men with pink visors running around. They were all covered in hexagons as well
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>>322454814
Reach had super colorful graphics on certain maps

Powerhouse was bright and orange, Zealot was purple and blue, spire was orange and purple and green, any forge world maps looked good with bright flowers and grass and trees. Then of course the snowy one with the deep icy blues

I'm not joking though, 4 has way worse textures resolution. You can basically count the pixels on the walls. Reach was much higher, down to seeing individual tiny scratches and patterns on armor and vehicles and walls.

It's lighting system may have been more flat and bland, but its better than being blinded by the completely overdone bloom covering everything
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Sort of off topic, but are the loadouts we see in 4 how they do it in call of duty? Like consistent loadouts?
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>>322455083
Yup. It's the only halo to do that.
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>>322455083
pretty much, only CoD lets you have 3 perks and 2 grenades instead of 2 perks and one grenade
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>>322455083
Yes, except CoD loadouts are more elaborate with perks, accessories and shit
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>>322455083
In most of the modes you could choose your own custom created loadouts

These loadouts included primary spawn Guns, grenades, armor abilities, and perks

Basically all options that go against everything that was halo 1-3 multiplayer
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>people are unironically talking about Halo on /v/ now, and has been for at least a few years now.
>yet still I find myself unable to leave, and I just keep posting here, pretending everything is fine
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>>322453697
holy cow you're retarded
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>>322455335
Halo turns 15 this year grampa
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>>322455335
Halo is 15 years old anon

10 year olds who played it in 2001 are 25 now
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>>322455267
That's what I mean. Custom loadouts. I just ask because I loved 4 and I have a free download code for black ops 2. Don't really pay cod so I figure I'd at least try 2 before investing in 3....
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>>322450401
Because every single fucker spawned with plasma pistol, plasma grenades, pocket shotguns and DMRs. Shit was fucking broken.
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>>322455489
>>322455491

Please do not address me directly.
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>>322455491
Dude...I'm 26. I remember CE coming out when I was in elementary school. Fuck....
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>>322451756
>Shit, the mp gameplay might be the best the halo franchise has ever seen.
Why does everyone keep saying this? Halo 2, 3, and arguably CE all had better multiplayer
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>>322455554
SHIT you were close to quints

Who got em?
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>>322450401
>>322451139

Only good system was weapon pickups on the map arena-style.
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>>322455558
ur a faget
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>>322455558
Wtf?
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>>322451756
I would impregnate every one of them
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>>322455663
2 yes, 3 had better customs for sure
1-3 had the best map design for sure

What makes it better is the weapon balance, in 2 it was a race to BRs and power weapons, in 1 everybody just used a pistol, and 3 was basically the same as 2.
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>>322455678
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>>322450401
I like the smoother look of 1 and 3 over the noisy look of 2 and 4 and 5. There's so much shit going on with that armor in 4 and 3 looks so much cleaner compared to it.
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>>322455750

Guards, please escort these gentlemen out.
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>>322451139
>REQ system is shit
Yeah nah, get good.
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>>322455663
The gameplay is fucking solid

The forge is great, scripting allows for some crazy stuff and maps can be pretty visually diverse with all the weather color and lighting effects

However, the bad part is the ACTUAL map variety. It's bad enough they are passing off forge maps as new maps in their content updates (BtB only having forge-created maps) , but all the ACTUAL dev made maps feel the same aside from the ONE forerunner map, and the TWO covenant maps

They're all just white wall industrial hallways and platforms with different skyboxes

It's fucking boring. There's no natural terrain on any arena map, or vehicles for that matter.

Comapred to the maps like Zanzibar or high ground and many similar which were great for small 4v4 or larger, its a real sham
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>>322455335
Who...are you?
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I really want this armour but doing all of MCC on legendary solo is way to tedious.
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>>322455835
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>>322455954
>defending micro transactions
Yeah nah, fuck off
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>>322455335
>Frogposter has shit taste
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
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>>322456037
Doesn't have to be solo

Even though solo is easy anyways on legendary

Legendary all skulls on is where it gets real fucked up
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>>322455954
>get good
So we agree specific challenges to unlock equipment, weapons, and armor is superior to time sink dice rolls?
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>>322456019

YOUR PROM DATE YOU UGLY SACK OF SHIT
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>>322456089
If you BUY a REQ pack you are fucking stupid

They can all be easily earned just by playing, very similar how you used to unlock shit by leveling up in reach or 4, its no different.
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>>322456037
2's first level is the hardest it's gonna get, once you pass that you're golden
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>>322456160
Yes

But dice rolls are better than time sinks where you have to reach a certain rank and it takes 100's of games to unlock something new

Ideally they'd be tied to certain achievements or challenges
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>>322456037
Its really not, suck it up. Watch speedruns and you'll have all 4 done in like 8 hours tops
>>322456089
>microtransactions
When they dont affect gameplay in the slightest yeah they're fine, stop being a faggot
>>322456160
Unlocking multiple at once by actually playing the game is better than just grinding achievements. It means you're not forced to sit through 343i's shit campaigns anymore.
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>>322456214
It's very different though you fucking retard

Did you play any of them?

You could actually pick and choose what you wanted to spend your points on, in 5 it's random, out of over at thousand items and more so limited by a rarity and pack value system to further reduce odds of getting nice items.

>hurr dont buy them
Doesn't change the fact people do and it ruins it for everybody in the long run
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Did anyone go all out and get the limited edition console?
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>>322456129
Yeah but I don't have anyone to do it with.
On my old account I did reach, 4, odst and 3 and I really can't be arsed to do them again.

I'm hoping they make it so you can unlock helioskrill in gold packs.
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>>322456217
That's a funny way of saying Regret
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>>322456390
Yeah I got it for 300 from game.
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enjoyed the shit out of BTB, CTF and Flood in 4
loadouts weren't bad in BTB and CTF - you'd use what you want in unranked shit. never got the appeal of ranked shit anyway

req system IS fucked up, but 343 don't know how to get people to continue playing aside from rng cosmetics

Halo 5 and this shitty 3 month Gold sub will be fucking dead if they don't release any new (NEW) (fucking NEW) gamemodes this month
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>>322456217
>>322456427
odd way of saying Gravemind's first encounter

have fun getting gunned down where you stand over and over again when you spawn in
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>>322456356
It's random for everyone

Doesnt change a thing

If some faggot decides to blow 300 dollars on REQ packs, what does he get? Wow, a cosmetic piece of armor, or a pose, and 30000 extra useless warzone mongooses

Which anyone else could just as easily get by random chance as you are guaranteed two permanent unlocks per pack just the same as the cuck who bought them
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You guys think they'll keep the same stuff from 5 in 6?
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>>322456421
You CAN unlock it from gold packs

Every armor piece is unlockable that way

It's just a mythic armor so its quite rare
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>>322456536
Missing the point, the REQ system is garbage compared to a normal unlock system meant to literally just exploit peoples lack of patience to make money and it's working

see >>322453038

Why ANYBODY would defend a diceroll unlock system is beyond me, let alone microtransactions
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>people unironically call the REQ system in warzone "pay to win"

M O R O N S
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>>322456612
You can't actually, somebody on /hg/ unlocked everything and said he didn't get helrioskrill and it wouldn't unlock so he had to do MCC
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>>322456214
>If you BUY a REQ pack you are fucking stupid
Like 50% of REQ profits go straight to the HCS, not really stupid when im playing in the HCS but whatever. I just wanted my Locus set, it has absolutely no impact on gameplay whatsoever.

>>322456356
>in 5 it's random, out of over at thousand items and more so limited by a rarity and pack value system to further reduce odds of getting nice items.
You're retarded
Being random gives people who buy lower tier packs a chance to get the same as people spending hundreds on Gold REQ's.

And you're SUPPOSED to buy Bronze -> Silver -> Gold because once you run out of shit they can give you they start giving you REQ points back, but you get the option to do whatever you want senpai.
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>>322456612
Oh really I thought that applied to all except ones unlocked achievements?
I've already bought 30 gold packs, hopefully I'll get lucky.
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>>322456654
It's preferable to a system like 4 or reach where you have to play 500 hours to reach a certain rank to unlock One specific thing

At least this way everyone's on a level field, 90% of players will never buy a REQ pack. The ones who DO will NOT blow 5,000$ to unlock everything at once
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>>322456721
I'm aware of the progression, and it's still a shit system.

If you're buying bronzes after you've finishing them you're retarded. Literally pointless

>>322456804
You still have to play a ton of hours if you want something though

Can you get a mythic armor at a low level? sure, is it likely? fuck no. Especially if you only buy golds and don't do bronze or silvers first. even then it's still low.

My SR is 90 and I have probably 50+ hours logged, never bought a pack and went through normal bronze->silver->gold progression. Currently halfway through golds and I haven't gotten shit for the nicer reqs.
You're still grinding like in reach it's just random and you're too dumb to realize it
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>>322456746
According to what the other anon said it might not be so.

I don't have MCC or an xbone else I'd do legendary with you, search for someone on XBL to go with. Just find a player who has played MCC but doesn't have the legendary achieves and shoot them a message.
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>>322456954
If you buy bronzes youre dumb

You're supposed to buy silvers until you unlock all the common stuff (and each silver is GUARANTEED to have 2 permanent items unlike bronze)
That way when you get gold packs after, they will only unlock legendary and mythic items
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>>322456654
>Why ANYBODY would defend a diceroll unlock system is beyond me, let alone microtransactions
Why do you think people gamble anon? You can play 4 matches of Warzone, get enough for a Gold REQ Pack and end up getting Helljumper and Prophets Bane in one pack. Its the thrill of it all, Halo 5 has no multiplayer progression, no Halo has outside of like Halo Reach grinding and Rouge in Halo 3 and getting max rank in 2/5. There really shouldnt be. Every match is equal, and no amount of playing is going to make it less equal.
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>>322457125
That's not how it works retard.
Buying silvers before you clear out bronzes is throwing away RP
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>>322457247
How exactly ? You are guaranteed 2 permanent items with silver, with bronze you aren't guaranteed shit. Just shitty RP boosts or mongooses and shit (which you will get in silver along with the permanent unlocks)
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>>322457224
>You can play 4 matches of Warzone, get enough for a Gold REQ Pack and end up getting Helljumper and Prophets Bane

After you clear 85% of your reqs, sure
The only mythic weapon I've gotten is nornfang so far.

Yes you CAN get them but you likely won't

For the amount of time I've played this game, I'd rather get to choose what I wanted to unlock and have fewer items overall.

Fuck gambling
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>>322457356
You only get RP boosts when you finish all the common reqs in bronze.
You're supposed to buy them first to clear them out so they won't come up in silvers or golds because they cost signficantly less.

There's no guarenteed perms but iirc we tested it on /hg/ and it's roughly somewhere around 50-70% of the time you get them

If you already got them then it's pointless to buy them
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>>322457365
>After you clear 85% of your reqs, sure
>Yes you CAN get them but you likely won't
Thats the thrill of it, same reason why people go for knifes in CSGO. You want to roll with those 0.1% odds.
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>>322457365
You have never been able to choose what you want to unlock. There has always been level requirements which means you'll go a long time without getting anything while you grind to reach the proper level.
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>>322457558
You still got to pick and choose what you spend your points on for which armors you wanted and like I said if you don't think you're grinding in 5 you're fucking dumb. It's not as random or even as you think.
For a fresh person they have something like 1/1300 odds for something like MkIV, except it's actually something a lot less because you can only get it in golds.

Reach system was shit because it was grindy yes I don't disagree with that at all, thinking 5 isn't grindy is just hilariously naive.

>>322457515
No, gambling is fucking awful. If I wanted to gamble I'd go to a casino and maybe have a chance of winning something worth while like cash.
5s gambling is like getting a handy without the finish
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>>322457767
>No, i hate fun.
FTFY
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>>322457891
>I can't think of anything else to say

No fuck off faggot. This is the first thread I've been in that people actually defended the garbage req system.
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>>322458006
>This is the first thread I've been in that people actually defended the garbage req system
How new are you?
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>>322457767
It's still grindy yeah but that doesn't mean it's bad. It's much better than the reach system imo.

It encourages you to use a wider variety of armor, stuff that you normally might not use, and you might end up liking it.
You can still get lucky as well, I got the FOTUS set on my 2nd day with the game (that armor is godawful though)

An optimal solution would be to keep the random chance packs and also have specific pieces of armor available for purchase for around the same price as a gold pack or something (increasing sharply in REQ point cost the rarer the item is)

That way it still encourages people to play and they can either go for a random pack and be surprised and get vehicles +weps or save up for a specific item
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>>322458079
I've been here longer than you sugartits. I don't browse /v/ very often because it's a cesspool of shit but every Halo thread I've been in people dislike it
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>>322458127
I'd be okay if they had something like "Buy X armor for an extra 20k REQs" or if they atleast made packs with "cosmetic items" and "warzone" items because I don't give a shit about warzone items since I play Arena more often

343 won't do that though, or atleast until HCS is over with because they're bankrolling on reqs
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>>322458276
I wouldn't have a problem with them making so.much off of reqs if they made some actually GOOD new maps and didn't count fucking forge maps towards their promise of 25+ new maps for free

New modes would be fucking good as well


(I've never even played halo 5 though, I just am fed up with 343 and have seen tons and tons of footage )
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>>322458837
Most of the money is going towards a tournament that literally nobody gives a fuck about.

They said every map they're releasing from now on won't be forge maps but I don't believe that.

They still haven't said anything about game modes and chances are they won't introduce any more.

I stopped playing a few weeks ago because content isn't coming out quick enough and the lack of modes, good maps, and playlists is infuriating. The gameplay is good and the balance really is the best Halo has ever been. They have such a good formula for a solid 9/10 game but they can't go two steps forward without taking 5 back
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>>322450401
It's a sad state of affairs when you compare a game to Halo 4 and claim the latter is "so much better". Fuck,
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>>322459064
They try too hard to cater to the "MLG" audience. They somehow think that players wanting to go back to even starts somehow meant we wanted a MLG focus to the point of having excssive cringeworthy pro tournaments, bland white walls on EVERY map, and eye-bleedingly intense tones of red and blue on the Spartans, for "visibility" and "balance"

All while not even having a FILE BROWSER in the game. This is like the 8th halo game as well, and we still haven't gotten a custom games browser, unless you count the gamespy ones on halo 1 and 2 PC

343 just take one step forward and 10 steps back with this game.

We want a good story.

We want a balanced, varied, and fun multiplayer

We want essential community features to be in the game AT LAUNCH
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>>322455335
Can I address you directly?
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