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Why. Just why. Why not at least make it a N3DS exclusive? What the fuck was the point of N3DS if not for this type of shit? Why make a game that will look shitty even worse?
>>322445270
Dropping support for the original consoles would mean alienating a large portion of the 3DS install base.
This shouldn't stop devs from taking advantage of the hardware, but they probably didn't give a damn.
profits, baby.
>>322445270
Honestly I'd understand lower texture resolution/polycount since on the small 3DS screen you actually wouldn't notice a difference with a lot of stuff, but removal of road textures is just outright disgusting.
>>322445270
honestly, i don't think the japanese consumers care about graphics. they just want to be able to play duragon kuwesto while on the train.
>>322445270
>Nintendo
>Not expecting this
>>322445270
Wow....does it really look like that on the 3DS, that's pathetic.
And people will still play it and buy it anyway, if you played it originally on the PS2 then you'd instantly know that it looks like shit on the 3DS.
>>322445270
I don't understand why they didn't just do all this when they ported it to smart devices.
Don't care. They added tons of gameplay stuff which to me is all I care about. Just happy we are finally getting them.
The colors look way too bright. I mean, just look at the plants. Just making it a bit dimmer would make it so much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLBg8e_j-MM
>>322446151
3DS screen is pretty washed out, that's why.
3DS screens in general are pretty low quality.
>The game looks better on my Android phone
>>322446829
Shit like that is also why Nintendo's losing out on the handheld market. Phones are just fucking technologically advanced at this point.
>>322445270
People will call you names for caring about graphics, but fuck em. DQ8 was beautiful and shitty graphics takes that away from the game.
I'm still getting the 3DS one because new content, I'm a big fag for Hero and Medea romance and I want to use Red and Morrie.
But it makes me sad that this isn't on PS4/WiiU.
>>322447454
DQ8 looked like shit, and it only looks more shitty on 3DS.
>>322447608
>>322445270
>why not make it exclusive to only 2% of the 3DS install base!
Also, your PS2 comparison image is stretched and looks worse as a result. Despite you trying your hardest to use a 3x AA upscaled image from emulation, you still failed.
This is what the PS2 version looks like.
>>322445270
>Why not at least make it a N3DS exclusive
You know exactly why
>>322447454
An HD remake would have been better. But the 3DS remake is making up for it with the most additions of any DQ remake yet. And it still doesn't take away from the possibility of a true HD remake in the future. Games like DQIII, IV and V have had multiple remakes.
>>322447767
>dont make game for n3ds because no users
>no one buys n3ds because no games
Back and forth and back and forth...
3DS screens always look like garbage when not on the 3DS itself, but I do agree that it looks pretty bad.
Still getting it though.
And since this is the resident DQ thread, does anyone else think the XI protagonist looks too bland to be an actual protag? I think he doesn't look bad per se, but I feel they're setting us up for another IX.
>>322447975
games don't sell systems, wii and ps4 prove that
>new english american dub
>>322447975
You would only have an argument if this was early in the 3DS life. Not 4 1/2 years into it. The only people buying a New 3DS are the few people who don't already own one. Or Xenoblade/MH fans with money to burn.
>>322448142
>wanting a dub at all
Also, the only voice you care about, Yangus, has already confirmed he's coming back. Be honest, you don't care about anyone else.
I'd rather have the Japanese voices. Because, aside from Jessica, they're all spot on. Especially Mercello and Dhoulmagus.
>remake game to be uglier and shittier
Why would anyone even want this
>>322448462
-New story chapters developing Mercello, Medea, Red and Morrie
-New monsters to collect
-New alchemy recipes
-New gear/items
-All gear changes your appearance
-New skill trees
-Two new playable characters
-New areas to explore on the overworld
-New end game content
Yup. All that matters is graphics. I bet you played the PS2 version of Dragon Quest V instead of the DS.
>>322448723
And we should have all that with an improvement to graphics or at the very least the same graphics with some AA.
This is downgraded and makes the game ugly. Aesthetics are very important regardless of how hardcore you think you are for dismissing them. Not to mention 3DS has shit sound quality aswell. I'll get the game for the new content, but I believe these additions will not make me replay the remake over the original in the future.
>>322448723
You're a retard if you don't play both for their unique aspects.
Since there's far more difference between DQ5 PS2 and DS than just graphics and both actually have content that the other one doesn't.
Same with this DQ8 here.
This one is based on the Jap PS2 version at the core with new shit on top, while the English PS2 version was its own beast so you should play both English PS2 and the 3DS version.
>>322445270
I'm not gonna buy a N3DS for that.
Fuck you and your shit ideas you nigger.
>>322448325
>Also, the only voice you care about, Yangus, has already confirmed he's coming back. Be honest, you don't care about anyone else.
Fuck off faggot. King Trode has a cool voice.
>>322448060
>Wii
Do you mean Wii U?
Because the Wii sold a shitload despite the amount of shovelware on it.
>PS4
The promise of games andhaving competitors that fuck up literally everythinghelped solidify it in the number 1 spot.
>>322448060
The Wii had all the games people wanted.
>FE:fates
>DQVII/VIII/XI
>new pokemon
>bravely second
>hyrule warriors
>all on n3ds
My dream.
>>322445270
Why is "before and after" a hard concept to grasp for you OP? The old version goes on the left side. To show a progression of time. This isn't a fucking manga.
>>322449620
Graphics are the most important thing for you, okay. Doesn't mean everyone has to be that way.
I already agreed above that a true HD remake would be better. But I'm not going to ignore the game just because of graphics. Especially when it has all these other gameplay additions.
Plus, I've already played the PS2 version on emulation with 3x AA.
>>322449624
>Since there's far more difference between DQ5 PS2 and DS than just graphics and both actually have content that the other one doesn't.
The only thing the PS2 version of V has that the DS game doesn't is orchestrated music and 3D graphics. The orchestrated music is amazing, but not worth overlooking all the gameplay improvements in the DS. And the 3D graphics make battles/exploration slower so that's a negative in my book.
To each his own.
>>322449781
>the most annoying voice in the game
>cool voice
Why wasn't this ported to Vita?
This is why I wanted it ported to home console. The game would be so fucking beautiful remastered in full HD.
>>322450024
Are you actually this autistic?
>mfw people are arguing about ps2 vs 3ds graphics but don't mention android
WHY THE FUCK COULDNT 3DS VERSION LOOK AT LEAST GOOD AS ANDROID.
>Perfect game that deserves the HD treatment
>Gets a shitty downgraded port to the weakest handheld
I understand Japan has a hand on for portables but this just baffles me, it's no wonder people dislike the Vita when it can't even get a port like this.
>>322450120
They wanted to make money.
>>322450120
Because 3DS has far more units sold. And Yuji Horii always puts his games on the system with the most units.
>Enix saves Square from going out of business
>Square IPs get all the budget while Enix games get fuck all
How does this work?
Good thing I've already played the fuck out of DQVIII on PS2, now I get to play it again with added features.
It's not like the 3DS version instantly makes the original non-existent. The real pleasure will be playing VII again without all the time consuming aspects being so annoying. Grinding jobs in the original wasn't fun.
>>322450282
The android version looks like crap as well because its stretched. It also lags or even crashes on many phones because its trying to run something better than most phones/tablets can handle. Plus SquareEnix typical shitty encoding for ports.
>>322450208
Yes. Because I see it happen so much.
>>322450450
>3DSdude
Because you aren't biased in the slightest amirite. Fucking tripfags.
>>322450120
>vita
>games
>>322445741
I looked at DQ7 and the textures look way better than DQ8 on 3ds. What gives?
>>322450024
the 'now' looks fairly similar to a friend's ex-wife.....
>>322450660
Own every current platform except for Xbone, regardless of what platform it would be released for, I'd buy a Dragon Quest title.
Bought a PS4 and my first game was Heroes. I wouldn't have been against either remake/port being on another platform.
>>322450730
VII is more a remake, VIII is more an enhanced port.
>>322450851
>VIII is more an enhanced port
Port's a pretty good word for it considering how watered down it is.
![[Exiled-Destiny]_Magical_Shopping_Arcade_Abenobashi_Ep01_(3EB2270C).mkv_snapshot_18.55_[2012.01.16_12.56.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uKst7MZ.jpg "[Exiled-Destiny]_Magical_Shopping_Arcade_Abenobashi_Ep01_(3EB2270C).mkv_snapshot_18.55_[2012.01.16_12.56.59].jpg")
>>322450851
>VIII is more an enhanced port.
>3DS version has no roads
>>322451067
it has more content.
>>322451047
>>322451067
Yeah enhanced port adds more features. I didn't say HD remaster.
>>322450413
it doesn't, the merger has been called a mistake many times, once by the former president of Square and director after they merged
>>322450851
shit. wasn't planning on buying 7 (didnt like it too much), but if it's basically a remake, i guess i could try it out again.
>>322451129
>more content
>images show that it removes content like roads, trees,etc
>>322451235
>>322451067
Ya know /foolz/ member #1318, it makes it very obvious when you use these anime images that you're a /foolz/ member
>>322451192
VII is one of my favorites, despite how 'grindy' portions of it are, the individual stories you get from each location and all of it coming together was great.
>>322445270
Muh graphics
>>322451067
The original game didn't have roads. Unless you're referring to dirt tracks where monsters spawn less. Given that monsters are now on the overworld, the rules governing enemy spawn rates don't apply.I prefer random battles and I'm sad they are removing it. But western fans will claim its the best addition/
>>322447975
N3DS is literally made for Monster Hunter. Most likely Capcom went to Nintendo and told them to find a way to put a second stick on and help with loading. And I put in over 300 hours in MH4U so to me the N3DS was worth it.
>>322451353
>The original game didn't have roads.
>>322445270
>Literally showing the trees being butchered and the cobblestone road missing
>>322451416
lmao, no one cares about what you've done.
>>322451417
Shut up son you don't have a clue what you're talking about
>>322451192
DQVII looks to be the biggest remake yet. I haven't played it yet obviously. But everything I hear makes it out to be a completely different game. And I think the edition of actual expressions and body movement during dialogue is going to be a huge improvement. In a game which has 50+ hours of dialogue, this is going to be a massive improvement.
Plus Maribel needs to act out more.
>>322451417
It's from a pre-release trailer, there weren't roads, I guess expecting people to actually play games in this board is too much though.
>>322451417
>greentext is an argument
>>322451510
Does 7 play on old 3ds?
>>322451648
Yes you smelly idiot.
>>322451579
Does the picture not fucking speak for itself? Please end your life, no human being on this Earth will miss your departure.
>>322451674
How did you know I smell bad?
>>322451775i'm behind you
>>322451648
Yes. No DQ game requires New 3DS.
>>322451720
>Does the picture not fucking speak for itself?
>no picture
>>322451510
>And I think the edition of actual expressions and body movement during dialogue
Played the mobile version.
The 3D models don't add much at all other than to make the game look more pretty (and it doesn't imo).
And it's not like the scenes are all that improved since the camera stays static for the most part and the animations are janky as fuck.
>>322451927
How can you be this fucking chest-gnawingly retarded? I quoted the OP. Greentext is quotation or paraphrasing of the person you are directing to with the fucking reply code.
The greentext was reiterating what his post and picture says. You are mind numbingly retarded. I say this sincerely from the bottom of my heart: end your life before your retardation is passed on.
>>322452149
haha stay mad hobo
>>322452109
Did you play the original PS1 version? Its literally just your characters walking in place during hour long dialogue sequences. Even small gestures and facial expressions will be a huge improvement. I don't expect DQVIII level detail, but still anything helps.
>>322451862
Dq heroes does
>>322452672
DQ Heroes is on PS3, PS4 and PC.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime no Mori Mori 3 came out in the first year of the original 3DS. 3 years before the New 3DS was even announced.
>>322453017
OH yeah I was thinking of that legend of zelda one
>>322452657
Yeah I played the original, and I'm well aware of how scenes played out.
I'm not saying that the addition and use of 3D models isn't an improvement, I'm just saying that it could've been done better. A lot better.
Then again I'm not a fan of the overall graphical style they chose for the remake. It looks like an updated engine from the DQ5 PS2 remake, which looked fucking ugly to me, only with taller character models and better textures.
>>322453081
That's for normal 3DS not just New. The only game for New 3DS is Xenoblade 3DS.
>>322453391
Shut up stop trying to make me look bad
>>322447894
DQVIII on 3DS isn't a remake it's an """"enhanced"""" version akin to Final Mixes of KH or International FF games, DQVII on 3DS is a remake.
>>322453164
Funny thing is, with all the controversy over the 'downgraded' Dragon Quest VIII, most people will probably prefer the cleaner, simpler models for DQVII.
Also, the mobile version doesn't look as good as 3DS in my opinion. Though that probably won't impact the way the models move.
>>322453578
When there's hours of new story and gameplay, its really staddling the line between an enhancement and remake. I'm gonna call it a remake because it adds new content. An 'enhancement' sounds like FFX on PS3. Literally the same game with upscaled graphics. This is a game with tons of new content, but downscaled graphics.
>>322453513
NoSorry
>>322453709
FFX is a remaster.Same shit with some visual changes.
DQ7 is a remake. Remade from the ground up.
DQ8 is an enhanced port. Original game with additional stuff.
The graphics are too shitty for me to bother.
I'm buying VII but 8 can go rot
>lol grafficsfags
DQ8 was one of the most beautiful PS2 games, and it's flat out insulting to demake it like this.
They could have easily taken more time to optimize it so all the vegetation was still there and no pop in happened, but they rushed it out because they didn't wanna invest that much time and money in it.
Fags.
>>322453709
> I'm gonna call it a remake because it adds new content.
Are you dumb? KH Final Mixes, Final Fantasy X/X-2 Internationals, FFXII ZJSE all add more content. X-2 even adds a damn roguelike dungeon that can easily last 30 hours.
>An 'enhancement' sounds like FFX on PS3. Literally the same game with upscaled graphics
That's called remaster, silly.
> its really staddling the line between an enhancement and remake.
No. You look at Yakuza 1 and Yakuza Kiwami and there's your remake. Look at FFVII and VII:R, that's a remake.
How about this. DQ7 for all 3DS but DQ8 for N3DS in the west.
>>322454221
No. I'm not gonna buy another system for a port.
Its fine as it is.
>>322453609
One of the biggest problem with the mobile version of 8 is the fucking frame rate. It makes everything look so fucking bad.
Personally I like the look of both the PSX and 3DS of DQ7. PSX has some nice charm to its kind of 16 bit look. Remembering playing it and having fond memories of the style while everyone else was going head deep into 3D when most of the time it just looked bad.
3DS just looks like when it should be if the went with the 3D look on the PSX like everyone else. Still has that Dragon Ball look and to me DQ7 Hero always looked the best out of all the Heroes.
>>322446151
Welcome to neo-Nintendo
DQVIII for Steam when? Tried emulating but it runs like ass.
>>322453990
>I'm buying VII but 8 can go rot
I'm really torn about it all. I think I'm in this boat but man, I want to show support to a company whose argument is always "no support, no port!"
DQ8 WAS gorgeous. Still my favorite cel shaded game of its gen, or maybe even any gen for that matter. It's a shame to see it downgraded so heavily. And not just by assets being cut. Its now hyper saturated and the contrast ruins the detail of the original coloring.
On the other other hand, it does have a ton of new content that would probably keep it fresh. And its no doubt stillfun.
Ugh. Blegh. Arg.
>>322448212
Source on numbers?
>>322454450
Think of it this way. Not buying it won't send a message to SE. A lack of sales and they will just act like DQ is dead in the west (for the fourth time).
But buying it may encourage them to not only bring over other DQ games, but make an HD remake of DQVIII later.
Basically, a lack of sales doesn't help either way.
>>322454581
> but make an HD remake of DQVIII later.
They won't remaster a game for the west. Whether a remake happens or not it's down to Japan.
If you play DQ8 on PC emulator you can up the internal resolution to 1080 and it looks gorgeous
>>322453609
Thing is, I don't think the simpler models and style fit 7 at all. 7 is a game about a grand, long adventure, and the graphical style they chose for it doesn't convey that. This could be forgiven for the original, however, due to the console limitations at the time. It was either that or end up with shit like the FF games with the 3D models on 2D backgrounds, or something that's almost completely 2D.
I'm not really bugged by DQVIII downgrades save for a few things here and there.
I think it would've been a lot better had 73DS went with a look similar to the Joker games or DQ8, instead of pretty much taking the original town and dungeon maps and placing taller 3D models on them. Could've made the game feel so much more grand.
>>322446151
"Konno Kansai bou!"
Man, the original western translation missed SOOO much. No wonder Jessica seems so flat and boring in English.
>>322454713
The sad thing is, once citra is playable in a year, even re-rendered you're STILL gonna be missing a lot of world map vegetation and have pop in.
I pray some autismo does a romhack to recreate the wordmap
>>322447608
>DQ8 looked like shit
>being factually wrong
>>322454881
If you don't like the design of the game, can't really be helped. But I think its a huge step up from the PS1 version. Which funny enough, really turned me off of the original PS1 game. The odd mixture of 3D sprites on 2D rendered backgrounds (and some 3D polygon backgrounds) looked worse than SNES games to me. And I couldn't get over it. At least the 3DS version is consistent with one style for everything.
>>322451510
Is DQ7 worth playing. Im a DQ neebie and Im just going through the ds trilogy right night. Im stoked for 8 because I never played it, but I hear DQ7 is a super fucking long game.
>>322455225
All the DQ games are worth playing. Dragon Quest VII is just a huge time commitment. Its basically Dragon Quest VI on super steroids.
Nobody ever talks about DQ6.
I just bought it but I didnt get to play it yet.
Is it bad or something?
>>322455017
what are you on about. what is citra?
>>322455418
Its fine. Its just nothing like the other games so people don't know how to view it. Well, its like DQVII in skill system and two world mechanic. But otherwise, its the black sheep of the franchise. Which even the black sheep is still a good game.
>>322455327
k noted. thanks
>>322455473
3ds emuatlor, you behind the times retard
You guys got the localisations yet?
I haven't played VIII 3ds yet but VII 3ds was great. Instead of playing VIII remake I should probably play monsters or something since I've never played their original versions.
Looking forward to DQXI.
>>322455225
DQ7 is just Dragon Quest to the Nth degree on a lot of things. It's my favorite behind DQ4 NES. If you are playing the DS trilogy than go right ahead and pick up DQ7 3DS. 7 is best to be played after you familiarized with the series which you have been doing.
>>322455418
Don't trust any NPC. They're all liars in DQVI. Seriously, Yuji Horii must have been depressed or just got mugged or something before making that game.
>square Enix in charge of being lazy
It's alla about money, baby. The 3DS is basically a miniature GameCube. SE has just been lazy as fuck for the past 2-3 years.
When is Dragon Quest VII supposed to come out anyway? Every site I go to says preorder and that it was due out on December 31.
Also, is DQ7 still 5 characters at the end of the game? Hero, Maribel, Gabo, Melvin andKiefer's daughter whose name I can't remember? I'm 100% using Maribel but do any of the others have qualities that make them stand out as good or bad?
>muh new content
The new post game content is garbage. Recycling bossfights with a piss yellow filter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJlo--rpDOY
>>322456328
>Maribel
Oh…Anon…
Anyways all the characters work well. They have slightly pros and cons but the difference is minor so you could let Hero go as a Mage and Maribel into Fighter and be fine.
>>322456313
It's more powerful than a Gamecube and has extra functions like modern-ish shaders.
DQ8 is a lazy port, yeah they added content but they spent no time optimizing the graphics
>>322446151
oh yangus is shinji's dad
>>322448325
>aside from jessica
She isn't supposed to be a posh cunt with a raspy voice like the britfag version. She's 17.
>>322456538
>Oh…Anon…
Boy, that scared the shit out of me thinking she dies or something.How long does she leave the party? I played DQ7 for Playstation but don't remember jack shit about anything. Is it that bad to just grind her back up to meet everyone's level?
>>322456313
SquareEnix has already made 7 DQ games for the 3DS. With at least two more on the way.
They're not being lazy about making games. They're being lazy about localizing them. And if they cared about money, they would have localized all of them. The worst selling DQ game with zero marketing still regularly outsells Tales or Atlus games in the west.
>>322456946Forgot most of it but remember her being under by like 10 levels. And that is her gone for a good 30-40 hours if I remember right
>>322456328
VII is early summer
VIII is sometime after in 2016
>>322456751
I wasn't comparing her to her English version. I'm just saying her Japanese voice doesn't sound like what I imagined it should be. Basically, I think she should sound more like the more sullen acting of Miyuki Sawashiro.
But whatever. If we get a dual audio option in the west, I'll quickly get use to her voice. Its the western voices like Trode and Marcello I can't stand. Had to turn off voices in the PS2 game because of them.
>>322457063
>They're not being lazy about making games. They're being lazy about localizing them.
EXCEPT THEY COULD HAVE MADE A 1:1 PORT GRAPHICALLY FOR DQ8
IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE DOWNGRADED THIS BAD, YEAH THE RES DID BUT IT DIDN'T NEED POP IN AND REMOVED VEGETATION
THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA SPEND TIME OPTIMIZING IT
>>322457074
Fuck, that sounds bad. Oh well. I guess I'll find a metal slime spot when the time comes and get her back to speed that way.
>>322457170
Looking at amazon again I just now noticed it said by December 31 2016. I'm a fucking idiot. Thanks for the info though.
>>322456946
>How long does she leave the party?
Until you recruit the last two playable characters.
>Dragon Quest IV-VI gives you a wagon to handle extra party members
>Dragon Quest VII skips this despite needing it the most
>Dragon Quest VIII has the wagon come back, despite never having more than four characters
>the wagon is central to the plot
Yuji Horii trolled me good.
>>322457237
Calm down there captain cruise control.
>>322456538
Wrong to an extent.
Maribel's HP, physical attack, and physical defense are shit, even with jobs amping them up somewhat. And no, DQ didn't have "magical attack and defense" before 8, so don't anyone tell you otherwise. Her max MP is great and she's somewhat fast, but most of the better skills don't need that much and it's not worth having someone who sucks that much at everything else on the team when you have 2 other shitwreckers, Melvin and Aira, who can kick ass physically and magically. Even Gabo's MP, despite being the lowest on the team, is still fairly high end-game.
Honestly, DQ7 should have been the fucking exception to party rules and just had 5 character parties. I mean, for fuck's sake, the reasoning for only having 4 characters is just arbitrary as fuck. BUT NOPE GOTTA HAVE MUH DQ TRADITIONS fuck you japan, seriously
>>322457383
>Dragon Quest VII skips this despite needing it the most
That might be a good thing, it will make leveling up jobs easier as it will take longer to reach the areas cap?
>>322447454
i think the issue is people think "graphics" just means texture resolutions and framerate when it doesn't. aesthetic is a very important part of it too, and DQ8 just looks washed out and unappealing.
>>322457269
Maybe they fixed it in the 3DS for her. Just remembering hating whenshe comes back and everyone is pretty much over leveling her by a ton and already deep in advance classes
Actually the new class system might actually be beneficial now since it seem classes level much faster than in the PSX version.
>>322457227
Horii said the reason for dual audio for Heroes was because people asked for it. Don't know how big the game is but if they could fit both audio we might get both.
>>322457516
Well they could alter the EXP rates honestly. Dragon Quest VI had the same system with a wagon. I actually had to rush through the story since my hero was always above the level cap.
But you also have the reverse problem in DQVII. You lose Maribel for hours. And everyone else surpasses her in job levels. So you either have to stop and grind just for her or have a gimped character for the rest of the game.
>>322457584
I certainly want dual audio in DQVIII so who do I message to make sure it happens? SquareEnix doesn't listen to its blog (or fans in general) so I'd have to message Yuji Horii directly.
>>322457478
Maybe you are right but I never really had a problem with classes. Spells and abilities tend to be more useful than pure attacking and spells do kind of set damage anyways. Which is why shit like the Gabo boss fight and the Temple area are some of the worse areas in DQ7 because they take away your magic. Which I'm happy they don't do it in the 3DS.
>>322455418
It's good. It's just one of the weakest games in the series.
The beginning is really boring until you unlock dharma temple/alltrades abbey.
I'm playing through IX nowas my first DQ, because someone said it was the worst in the series, so I figured I could only go up through the series, and so far it's been very enjoyable, if this is the worst then I can't wait for the others, but are all DQ games as "episodic" as this one?
>>322457074
>10 levels
Mine was about 15 really. Maybe more.
Still, maribel leaving for a long ass time doesn't suck nearly as hard as having to use solo Melvin for longer than you'd like to. Better hope he wasn't a mage or something with low HP before that section, because it ain't easy.
>>322457478
They could have kept a 4 man team and just had a wagon. Removing the need to have Maribel and Keifer leave at all, since the whole reason is tied to the four man party.
Even if they wanted to have a story reason to kick Maribel out, she could have sat in the wagon and gained EXP/Job Levels.
>>322454348
I spotted a meme.
>>322457984
All DQ games have obvious arcs in story. DQIX is a little more obvious about it with both gameplay and story objectives being linked to the fruit. It opens up in the end game. But then you don't have a story guiding you.
>>322457584
>much faster
Not that much, just a bit.
Direct comparisons are about 20-25% less or the lower classes (which is to say from 15-25 battles on average), roughly the same for advance classes, and about 10-15% MORE for the 3rd tier classes and Hero (though still not that much more, at most I'd say roughly 20, 25 battles more at the worst of them).
>>322457984
No.
>>322445270
>He believes 3DS mos more powerful than a PS2.
What are you ,retarded?
>>322457889
I say email SE about it. Horii does seem interested in getting the series over here again plus the new CEO isn't a moronic fucker that moved their headquarters because of a fortune teller.
>>322458064
Already heard minor tweaks like taking out the antimagic areas. So maybe they made that part easier too. Actually from what I've read even Horii is shocked at how hard some of the areas was when he replayed it for the remake.
>>322458297
The Gamecube is more powerful than a PS2, but the angry memers say otherwise.
>>322458354
Yuji Horii was really pushing the difficulty on DQVI and VII. I mean, to a DQ veteran, its still fine. But think of all those kids and new DQ players who started with VI and VII. They must have been so mad.
>>322458120
Kiefer had to leave and it felt justified, but I still say Neris had no reason to NOT join, especially considering the way her story arc ends and you literally never see or hear about her again.
Now, that being said, I think Maribel was probably supposed to leave permanently in the original idea-stage for the game, but they probably wrote her back in because of waifuism bullshit. Personal opinions aside, it also makes a bit of sense for her to come back given the time you put into her, but if that was the case, there should have been some way to make up for her absence, such as a training quest or something. Even Tales of Phantasia did that in its revamped ports, since Chester had similar issues.
>>322458549
Maybe it was because of the switch to a different developer. Since 1-5 was Chunsoft and 6 and 7 was Heartbeat.
>>322445270
Honestly I don't care much about playing VIII's remake as I already played the original to hell. I don't think the additions would make it worth a buy.
I never played VII on the other hand and from what I read it's pretty much a remake from the ground up so, yeah.
>>322458120
>Even if they wanted to have a story reason to kick Maribel out, she could have sat in the wagon and gained EXP/Job Levels.
>Maribel gets turned to stone
>you throw her in the wagon until you find the cure in the sleeping village
>all the time she was still gaining EXP
Now I wish they had done that. It would have been funny and practical.
>>322458770
Well VI was Matrix and VII was ArtePiazza. So far as I've heard. But yeah, a change in developer might have something to do with it. Though Yuji Horii still does the scenario work so most likely it was his call.
>>322458813
If that was the case, PoppaRock in 5 should have gained a shit ton of experience, since he spent years as a statue.
Also, I'm slow as fuck, but it turns out the DW7 MC had a default name after all, but it's just an engrish version of the DQ7 name, which I hate.
>>322457984
Not really. 4 is chapter based and 5 is split into 3 eras though.
The rest have a more natural progression.
>>322458951
Well, the MC just sat on a lawn for 7 years. Maribel would be in a wagon presumably watching every battle. And based on how leveling works in DQVI, just sitting in a wagon watching a battle nets you EXP.
But its just a wild idea they'd never do. It just would have been funny.
>>322457984
DQ9 is great, the only big flaw was the "literally who party" and meh story, but at the same time having an anonymous party is made up with custom party members a la Etrian Odyssey.
It has the best battle system in the series IMO (basically an upgraded version of 8's), on field encounters, dynamic battle scene, lots of different classes, lots of content, lots of postgame, simple alchemy, it was fun.
>>322458884
I was talking about the original. 1-4 NES and DQV SNES was Chunsoft and DQ6 SNES and DQ7 PSX was Heartbeat.
>>322459115
>Well, the MC just sat on a lawn for 7 years.
Under rain, snow, sleet, etc.
If braving the elements ain't worth EXP, then someone needs to get fired.
So which DQ11 are you getting 3DS or PS4?
>>322460082
Both, but if I could only have one it'd be PS4
>>322460082
Both if SE lets me. Might see if it really does come on NX if it's the PS4 version.
3DS is a great throwback version and the PS4 looks wonderful.
>>322460082
PS4
