You there, Hunter, didn't you see the warning? Turn back at once.
I didn't tbch (to be completley honest), family
>>322440892
Nice hat you got there.
>>322440892
>they aren't beasts; they're people, you know
>>322441268
To be desu, the beasts in Old Yharnam seem to have formed a primitive culture with religion and funeral customs.
>>322441268
You know what got to me for some reason? The death screams of the old hunters in the DLC.
>>322441147
Is this you?
FUCK YOU LEATHERMAN
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So I've done a pure strength and pure skill build, what's the best weapon (without high level gems) for a pure arcane build and a pure gun build? I'm not talking about ng+s so everything SHOULD be viable right?
Why do the people in bloodborne wear bandages over their eyes?
I haven't read up on Bloodborne lore yet. What's this guys deal? And where the fuck did he get a minigun?Also does he drop good loot if you kill him by not throwing him off the ledge?
>>322441402
I'd agree with that. The ones in the church definitely could be holding some type of mass. They've got the ritual blood on the altar and they've congregated around the crucified BSB hanging from the ceiling. Maybe they're trying to re-enact the rituals that they took part in when they were still human.
>>322441417
It almost sounds like they're falling, to me. I think it hints at the fact that they are doomed to keep reliving that hunt over and over because of the curse. No matter how many times they're killed, they just come back to the nightmare.
>>322441971
Presumably to keep themselves from going insane due to seeing some shit.
>>322442232
It's Djura, a retired hunter from the Powderkegs. They made all kinds of wacky hunter weapons, and probably made the gatling gun too. He used to be a hunter in the dream just like you, but he's tired of the hunt and now protects the beasts in Old Yharnam.
>>322442292
God, it just makes me feel like shit for killing them. But maybe thats the point.
>>322442232
You get the loot regardless how he dies, just quit and reload and his loot will be next to the minigun.
As for lore, I think he is there to guard the darkbeast paarl. If you kill darkbeast then go to him he will give you his loot.
>>322442818
>>322442292
>>322441417
the only hunters you kill in the DLC disappear like you do
>>322443136
Yeah? Your point? I took that as them doing the same thing you do, after all, like you, they are stuck in a nightmare.
>tfw just sacraficed this guy to gravity
>>322441949
Bowblade's tricked mode shots hit like mack trucks if you level Bloodtinge, and the Evelyn and Ludwig's Rifle are the better not gimmicky guns.
The saw spear has decent arcane scaling, but the tontritus is decent as well, but fragile.
>>322442232
Was one of the first to realize that beasts are still people on some level, but was also the only Hunter who gave a shit about this fact. As such, he cordoned off Old Yharnam to limit the amount of people coming in and killing beasts/ex-people. He also gave up his Hunter Oath, which would have made him an eventual target of the Hunter of Hunters.
He has a gatling gun because he's the last of the Powder Kegs, a group of Hunters who prefers more mechanical weapons that utilize gun powder. The gatling gun is one of their more perfected designs, but not suited for most hunters.
His loot is the Powder Keg emblem, which allows you to buy their related weapons (Rifle Spear and Stake Driver, plus a couple tools). Generally if there is a weapon or tool with advanced mechanics or gun powder involved, it was made by the Powder Kegs or their precursors, the Oto Workshop.
>>322443136
All hunters you kill disappear in the same grey mist, barring exclusions like Gascoigne or Maria, who kind of explode into boss particle effects.
>>322443489
What do you mean by mac truck? With 46 bt and some 27 percent gems it's like 610ish AR. If someone doesnt have resist gear, it'll hit usually for 380.
>>322442613
Are there different hunter factions?
>>322440892
Saladin, I'm afraid that I do not trust your motives. Turn back at once!
>>322441971
No concrete universal answer is given, but there's a few possibilitys.
> rejecting the physical world and using "eyes on the inside" to ascend your perception of the world. Willem and Choir Scholars seemed to do this.
> The early signs of Beasthood are eyes falling apart and becoming mushy, could be a way of hiding it. (Personally I think this is what Gasgoign was doing with the bandages)
>>322444113
Is the guy in the wheelchair you first see in the opening cutscene in the clinc Gherman?
>>322444243
No, he cant leave the dream
>>322444370
Who was it then
>>322444441
A Blood Minister AKA some doctor
>>322443967
Kind of.
First hunters under Ghermen were a secret.
Than Ludwig made the the Healing Church and thier Hunters
Powder Kegs were heretics from the Church Hunters
In the game there's you
the Executioners
Vilebloods
Hunter of Hunters
The League
But the members of each seem to be either one or very few.
>>322444781
I thought Laurence created the Healing Church when he left Willem at Byrgenwyrth? Isn't that why he's "the first vicar?"
>just want to have fun doing my job
>some faggot on a tower starts shooting a fucking machine gun at me
Is this a metaphor for male feminists?
>>322443474
Gravity giveth, gravity taketh away.
>>322445275
True. Ludwig may have just been the Church Hunters then since Laurence and Ghermen seem to be bros before all the shit went down.
So what the fuck was the MPs plan again? What did it want from Gehrman and the PC?
>inb4 it has a vendetta against the other Great Ones
I'm not sure about what's going on, but I'm certain it's not that. The PC can leave Ebrietas, the Celestial Emissary, and Amygdala alive, and it doesn't give a fuck
As in, it very obviously wants you to kill mergo, specifically, but why does it hate Mergo so much? Why was it beckoned by Mergo and drop the moon if the MP hates it?
>>322445312
No.
>>322445275
Yeah you're right, Ludwig comes in later and was the first member of the church to be a hunter and founded the order of Healing Church Hunters
>>322445447
Mergo was already dead anon.
>>322445531
>He thinks great ones die when they're killed
Looks like SOMEONE needs to start thinking on higher planes! You missed your complementary shipment of eyes, anon
>>322445441
>>322445493
Right. I'm pretty sure Gehrman, Willem, and Laurence were the original scholars at BW, but they just ended up diverging for their own obvious reasons.
>>322443967
Executioners, Church Hunters, Powder Kegs, the League, Vilebloods, Hunter of Hunters. There are also the old hunters, who are from before Hunters started splintering into different factions. I think there are a few more but I can't remember them.
All factions stem from Gehrman's secret group of hunters, back when the beast scourge was just becoming a thing. Then there was splintering of purposes/motivations. Not all splinters are enemies, either. Powder Kegs, while they may be WORKSHOP heretics, aren't considered enemies to all hunters. They're just considered bizarre and their weapons unnecessarily complicated. So it's less of "heretical group that must be purged" and more "group that has strayed from the path of normalcy."
Meanwhile, Executions have a standing kill on sight order on Vilebloods because they goddamn hate the filthy fucks. Hunter of Hunters's are Hunters who's job is to deal with blood addled (fucking crazy and barely human, possibly becoming beasts) hunters who have abandoned their oath as Hunters. They may or may not also be responsible for sending people to the Hunter's Nightmare (where you go when you lose yourself to your blood lust/do something extremely terrible. Basically Hunter Hell), but both you and Simon confirm that dying isn't a requirement for getting there, so who the fuck knows.
>>322445312
I laughed.
>>322440892
Why he try to shoot me tho
>>322446138
Because he thinks (correctly) that you're here to kill the beasts. He thinks that the beasts are people (they are, technically) and as such, they shouldn't be killed.
>>322445447
From what I've gathered, when the Church began to use the paleblood of Ebrietas to do their experiments in order to create beings (celestial emissaries) that could contact other great ones, this use of forbidden blood created the beast plague transformation as a consequence. I'm pretty sure that the ultimate goal of the Moon Presence is to maintain some kind of balance with humanity, which is why it beckoned Gehrman and became the host of the Hunter's Dream. Remember, a Hunter's job is to hunt beasts, not the Great Ones.
Also, I don't think that the fact that the MP could be working towards supremacy as an ultimate goal could be false either, since it attacks you when you gain eyes on the inside. Souls games have always been very ambiguous and mysterious, so a lot is possible.
>>322446138
Beasts are still people to him and he feels guilty for burning an entire section of the city to the ground
>>322445716
I literally have no idea wtf is going on in bloodborne I just got to the blood starved beast. Will the game explain shit or like are there some notes I can find?
Can I join what ever faction I want?
>>322445447
OK so this might sound retarded, but hear me out first:
I posit that all the Great Ones that have control over the Nightmare (you get NIGHTMARE SLAIN from their deaths) can control the Moon to varying degrees. The MP is the most powerful of the 3, and it wants you to assassinate Mergo and the Orphan of Kos to get them off its turf. The reason why the Orphan isn't required to beat the vanilla game and unlock Gehrmans fight is because From didn't want to lock the games ending behind a dlc paywall.
As I said before, the MP is the most proficient at controlling the Moon, it can drop the bloodred moon on multiple planes of existences at once.
Mergo and the Orphan have a weaker control, they can only effect the Moon within their own Nightmares, and their influence doesn't extend any farther. The Orphan is responsible for the fucked-up moon in the Hunters Nightmare. Mergo blocks the bloodred moon in the Nightmare of Mensis. Recall that the MP is beckoned by Mergo, and drops the Moon in response. However, in the Nightmare of Mensis, the Moon is gigantic, but still pale white. I'm saying that since the MP is trying to get to Mergo, the Moon should be red as fuck and in your face like in the post-Rom and pre-MP fight cutscenes. The fact that it's not is Mergos doing.
The MP is basically butthurt at other great ones for stealing it's job. At least that's my interpretation. I'm sure that holes can be poked in it, especially declaring doing the dlc in NG, pre-Gehrman, canon.
>>322446261
Couldn't he like
Say that instead of shooting at me
>>322446406
You have to fulfil certain NPC sidequests before you can join one.
>>322446405
What the fuck? His name is Djura
>>322446568
He told you to turn back
You didn't listen
>>322446568
He does.
He tells you the beasts are harmless and to fuck off.
>>322445716
>gehrmans group of hunters
>secret
They were once "ten a penny," anon, they were everywhere. Plus, they weren't exactly using stealthy weapons. Just try and hide the noise of the blunderbuss and the boom hammer
>>322446596
I was thinking that maybe it's his name in the Japanese version or something. Probably made by either a retard or a weeb, but there's hardly a difference.
>>322446406
Some factions are just explanations as to certain things (holy weapons generally came from the Church Hunters, explosives from Powder Kegs), but others you can join by equipping the right type of item. All joinable factions are based on multiplayer focused, anyways.
You will generally learn this shit through item descriptions and putting 2 and 2 together from the shit you see. However, Dhurja's explanation that he thinks beasts are people can only be heard if you approach him from a certain path, otherwise he'll just say that they're harmless locked in Old Yharnam and you should fuck off.
>>322446405
>tfw fought him countless of times but this never happened once
fuck off
>>322446798
Easiest way to beat Djura is to climb the ladder, lock on as soon as you can, and fire the hunter's pistol repeatedly until he falls off the ledge
>>322445312
I always feel bad about killing him for his set after we bro it out on the rooftop and he gives me his badge
>>322446596
>>322446729
Okay thanks for explaining that too me.
>>322446693
Oh? I could have sworn he starts shooting first
I dunno dude just seems kind of rude
Since you guys were nice enough to answer that, is there a canon way that life in old yharnam exists? Like, the people hiding inside on the night of the hunt, how do they get food and shit?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0oPvJC4DFX3
fuck this game has destroyed my mind
>>322446925
Well no one lives in Old Yarnham save beasts. Everyone else uses incense to ward off the beasts and barricade themselves in until the night ends.
>Want to play Bloodborne so bad
>no PS4
>Broke college student
ffffffuck
What's the title for your character in Bloodborne? Like in DaS1 you're the Chosen Undead and in 2 you're the Bearer of the Curse
>>322446932
damn bro they oughta put you in the next one
>>322447138
The Good Hunter.
>>322447138
The doll refers to you as the good hunter so everyone just goes with that
>>322446925
I don't think there's anything there besides the beasts (which Djura considers to still be people) since the hunters burned Old Yharnam down because the beasts got out of control
>>322447103
Oh whoops, not old yharnam, I meant the starting area
But seriously the people on the hunt look pretty gnarly, how/when do the people hiding inside get to come out and get food?
>>322446932
Pretty good.
>>322447294
They don't.
They hope the survive basically. The hunt always ends.
>>322446925
old yarnham is all beasts
new/central yharnam i think they have huge food stockpiles considering how bad the beast problem has been, they expected it
they usually go beast before they go through their rations anyway
>>322447376
And once the hunt ends life is normal-ish?
>>322446932
Who spoke that line originally? Don't recall ever hearing it.
>>322447468
One can assume though Yarnham in general seems pretty fucked
>madmen toil surreptitiously in rituals to beckon the moon
>Micolash's prayer is not beckoning Mergo or the MP
>he's beckoning Kos
What did he mean by this? Did he not know that Kos was dead? Was he misattributing the Orphans deeds to Kos, not knowing that he was inside her? Does this mean that Kos/the Orphan can control the Moon?
I have this game and I love it but I can't finish it because I'm a fucking pussy. How do you guys deal with this spooky shit?
>>322447468
until the Hunt begins again, which might be a long time or a very short time. Every Hunt, the nights grow longer, the Beasts stronger.
>>322447468
As normal as normal can get in Yarnham.
The citizens you talk to in Central Yarnham imply that the Hunt is a semi-regular thing. The key difference being that the Hunt that the game takes place during is a special one when Mensis finally tries completing the ritual
>>322447468
As normal as life can get in a town full of blood-worshipping lunatics who get drunk off the stuff, yes
>>322447602
bathe in the blood of your enemies ie: kill more Beasts
>>322447468
Normal-er. I'm sure there are still beasts and shit, just not at the same frequency that they exist during the Hunt.
>>322447675
>that guy in central yharnam that lives right next to the lamp
>come back to that lamp way later in the game and there's a beast standing there and the window is busted open
>>322447602
M8, you're really spooked by blood borne? I thought it had some horror themes, but I personally never felt terror.
>>322447543
Maria, you dolt.
>>322447806
Poor Gilbert
>>322447869
I've never played the DLC. That's why.
>>322447806
"that guy" was named Gilbert, and he was one of the few genuinely nice people you met in the game
If you listen to him when he talks, he mentions that he's super sick, too. Beasts all over the shop
>>322447604
>survive the night of the hunt
>the next day, roommate starts acting funny after chugging a few blood cocktails in celebration
>he transforms in my living room, he's now a werewolf man
>he gets violent, starts swinging around pitchforks while screaming about how it's all my fault
Guys I'm writing this in my bathroom, he doesn't know I'm here. I don't know when the next Hunt will begin, wat do, /yhnm/?
>>322447143
damn I'd fly to england, Frognation are the best
>>322447543
Maria
>>322444781
>First hunters under Ghermen were a secret.
>Than Ludwig made the the Healing Church and thier Hunters
>Powder Kegs were heretics from the Church Hunters
You're back the front with the Powder Kegs, they were heretics of Gehrman's workshop because their loud weapons, inspired by the fledgling Oto Workshop, deviated from his hunting method. They proved their worth when they were contracted by the church to purge Old Yharnam.
The church then based their weaponry off of the powder kegs fighting method because the scourge was no longer a secret after Old Yharnam, and it was getting worse, they needed larger weapons and more firepower to take out the bigger beasts.
>>322447865
The blood suckers and guys who have snakes pop out of their heads are pretty freaky at first
>>322447968
Get that Saw Cleaver ready, nigga, gotta put those Beasts to rest.
>>322447590
Mico literally dreamed so long that he died during
he's completely crazy, nothing he says means anything
wet nurse just keeps him around to maintain the dream, after you kill him it's your memories powering it (remember the dog-head ravens)
>>322447945
I loved all the Bloodborne NPCs.
Kind of a bummer how they all wind up insane, dead or alien raped
>>322446798
Never happened to me solo, but seen it once or twice beckoned by a host
>>322446882
That got patched ages ago, when yoy climb now he's waiting for you in the center of the turret
>>322448115
>mfw gilbert goes beast even after he gives you a free flamesprayer
at least Chapel Dweller gets to start over
>>322447602
I usually just play during the day. Just went through hemwick and it was creepy as fuck, hate playing at night. But it's spooky and I love it at the same time. Was about to commence the forgotten forest but I decided to save it for the morning when I'm less easily spooked
>>322448267
I just did it yesterday.
>>322448320
dude just remember how powerful you are as a hunter
you can literally bathe in the blood of your enemies to regain recently-lost health and rip their damn hearts out if you shoot them at the right time
they have more reason to be scared
>>322446798
this has literally happened to me every single time
and thats 8 times
>>322448267
I literally did that 3 days ago, 2 shots with the blunderbuss, he falls off and I get the badge
>>322443760
Why don't you try googling "mac truck"
How the fuck someone goes through 18+ years of life without absorbing basic knowledge like this I'll never understand.
>>322441949
I used the saw cleaver all game for my pure arcane build. It's pretty much the best all around weapon, and for anything too difficult, I used the arcane items. The executioner gloves are your best PvE tool.
I just now beat Orphan.
>>322448279
Chapel dweller gets to spend the rest of his life being sad that he wasn't good enough for you to be his friend once the night ended, after all (just like everyone else)
>>322448364
I'm gonna go ahead and ask if your game is up to date.
>>322448541
Fuck bro, the chapel dweller was the best. It was great seeing how happy he was when I sent him the whore
>>322448541
i chose sunrise ending first time, so there's at least one world where he's happyas long as you don't get stunlocked on the way
>>322448096
People who have gone nuts aren't delusional, they're ahead of the curve. Pay close attention to what they say, and take it seriously. Their words are gifts of insight, and reveal the eldritch truth that your sheltered mind cannot see.
Point is, don't be too quick to disregard the ramblings of "madmen" like Micolash
>>322447602
>>322448045
>>322448320
Is this for real? Not to be a dick, but... you guys are total pussies...
I mean, the game is gruesome and the enemies look grotesque, I'll give you that; but do you guys actually have an issue with playing because you're too scared? It's hard for me to wrap my head around this. It's really not scary or terrifying in any sense, but I guess it could be just me.
>>322448574
Mine is and he spawns next to the turret, at the edge
You probably got killed by him, after dying to him he spawns in the center
>>322448541
Does chapel dweller drop anything remotely interesting if you kill him
>>322448067
You think I have a saw cleaver laying around? I'm not a hunter senpai, I'm stuck here waiting for them
>>322448834
Why would you consider killing him?THIS CHAPEL IS PEACEFUL, ITS INHABITANTS KIND!
>>322448834
nope, literally nothing if I remember correctly
>>322448834
Oedon writhe rune
>>322448917
get your torch and fork, faggot, time to mess up his brain.
>>322448834
Not worth killing him for anything
>"I just wanted to help"
>>322448996
>not killing every NPC before you go onto a new game+
>>322449034
>>322448996
It's good measure to kill every NPC you can before going into NG+ in souls games for exclusive items. It's the last thing you do before NG+
>>322449086
We're not all manchild retards
>>322448834
Now why would you ever do that?He drops a rune that increases the max amount of bullets you can hold.
>>322448804
Insight isn't literally knowledge or sight, it's incrimental lifting of a barrier between yourself and eldritch beings
i doubt mico had much insight anyway, according to the description of the college attire
>>322449086
>>322449110
For some reason I always have a problem doing this. It's weird, but I always feel guilty killing friendly or innocent NPCs in games, so I don't do it.
>>322446694
no no no, the very first hunters were done in secret. you get this from the hunter armor when it says that you stalked beasts in night. it was only after the Ashen plague that took old yharnam did everyone become aware of beasts infecting everything did hunts become public knowlage. this was also the time that the healing church stepped into the light and 'cured' everyone of the ashen plague with blood transfusions, which would end up creating more beasts, which necessitated the creation of the Healing Church workshop to run the hunts.
>>322448810
Don't get me wrong it's not scary, there's just something about it that gets me on edge, especially when I'm in a place where you haven't been before. Or when there are a ton of notes saying,"beware ambush" lying around and you're scared shitless because you don't know where they gonna come from. Idk man, maybe I am just a bit of a pussy
>>322446694
no no no, the very first hunters were done in secret. you get this from the hunter armor when it says that you stalked beasts in night. it was only after the Ashen plague that took old yharnam did everyone become aware of beasts infecting everything did hunts become public knowlage. this was also the time that the healing church stepped into the light and 'cured' everyone of the ashen plague with blood transfusions, which would end up creating more beasts, which necessitated the creation of the Healing Church workshop to run the hunts. the ten a penny is a reference to when the common man took up arms in the hunt during the ashen plague
the first hunters were basically MIB for the healing church before it went public by killing it's mistakes.
>>322448810
Not those anons but I usually play with headphones and the constant shrieking and cries from the enemies can get on my nerves. Some boss fights I had to take them off cause it was getting too distracting.
The only part I was legitimately spooked in was the Upper Cathedral Ward area right before the ayyliums where it's all dark and the werewolves and brainsuckers can jumpscare you. Also those giant meatsack cart enemies in Yahargul are kinda unnerving too.
>>322441610
Who is leatherman
>>322449332
I can definitely tell where you coming from. In any Souls game I'm in full suspense mode in pretty much any new area, and Bloodborne really amplified it, but I feel like it was more of a "I could get killed any second and have to start over again" vibe than "aah I'm so spooked right now."
Honestly the only things that scare me now are jumpscares, which really sucks.
>>322441268
Well yeah. Listen to what the Suspicious Beggar says to you once he transforms.
>>322449789
>me? you call me a beast? what do you know! I didn't ask for this!
>>322450023
>YOU HUNTERS ARE ALL KILLERS
>>322449789
he had to be put down. not because he was a beast, but because he still had his human mind. instead of living with the guilt of having to kill to keep living, knowing that you will always be reviled no matter where you go, he can rest from this terrible nightmare
i gave him Mercy, much like Gherman did for all the beasts he killed
Always Mercy
>>322450223
dude didn't seem guilty at all about his murders
he was a rabid animal regardless of his form
>>322450223
Ludwig is a better person to show mercy to 2bh
>>322449404
You stalk beasts at night because because it's easier to sneak up on them that way, not because you're some black ops wetwork squad. The weapons of the hunters are extremely ill-suited for stealth operations, as is their fighting style, going all the way back to Gehrman. Plus, it's not like you can hide the werewolves that are mauling everyone, word gets out that Neighbor Jonny transformed into a monster monster and murdered his whole family, before being put down by a squad of superhumans with saws, shotguns, and nothin personnel dodges. You can forbid them to talk about it, but they all still know, at which point secrecy is useless
>>322449215
And the lifted barrier is the key to knowlege.
>>322445447
MP has a pretty sweet gig knocking up bitches when the moon is full. Then the Mensis scholars come along and start fucking with dream shit and trying to make themselves into gods. Your job throughout BB is to kill everyone with the knowledge to do that wacky Mensis bullshit to protect MP's grip over Yharnam. Unless you get a bunch of umbilical cords, then MP sees you as a threat and tries to murder you.
Alright lads I'm 98 meme meta but gonna go 106 for Wheel and MLGS to try em out.
What are some good gems for those? Pure blunt for Wheel? I'm 35/35 with fuck all arc.
>>322450023
>>322450170
Whatever, at least I'm not cannibalizing random people, you annoying hipocrite. Now shut up and take these axe blows
>>322449215
micolash had fucking loads of insight matey, he wasn't even in the college anyway, he was a high up church lad
>>322450772
Odon is the one that telepathically knocks people up at at the bloodred moon, not the MP
>>322449307
that's not true, before the time of the powder kegs hunters were described as being 'ten as penny'
>>322450786
if you don't give a shit about Arcane it's fine, but don't bother transforming the Wheel then.
>>322450531
then how come the old workshop is completely locked away from the rest of the world? how come no one recognizes the saw hunter badge, when it was the symbol of hunters? how come everyone forgot that there was a whole other group of hunters that wasn't part of the Healing Church?
the first hunters operated in secret when the beast plague wasn't anywhere near what it is now. it only got out of hand when the group that would become the healing church accidently created the Ashen plague that took old Yharnam, which they then cured with blood ministration, which led to a massive surge in beasts, which the church, now an established foundation, created their own workshop to deal with the plague. after they had their own one, they quietly closed down the old one because they didn't need to work in secret anymore and destroyed the entrance to the first workshop
>>322448096
mico didn't dream for very long at all, it was only one night
the ritual of yar'har'gul petrified and mummified the inhabitants of the town, and you can go there while the ritual is taking place
Noice.
>>322448523
Alright you got autism, don't get off your meds little guy :)
I just got bloodborne recently. I got up to killing Rom, but did a shitload of chalice dungeons. Do you ever get to buy any higher tier materials for the dungeons besides ritual blood? Or do you have to do dungeons to do more dungeons?
>>322450870
Got anything to back that up? Bitches only get pregnant when the blood moon's out
Is it just me or there a very small, like a tenth of a second delay, between pressing the circle button and your character quickstepping? I dunno it feels like im not dodging even when I should be and press the button right before the enemy launches an attack.
Also, does anyone else hate the camera in this game? Some of the bosses like Vicar Amelia (her cloth shit gets in your face and all over the screen), Watchdog, Paarl, Amygdala, etc. are pretty much cantseeshitcaptain.jpg if you lock on to them.
>>322451187
You gotta do dungeons to do more dungeons, or else go NG+ so you can just buy all the mats.
Here's a guide to say you as much time as possible getting the shit for the next chalices.
>>322450823
why does he wear the student uniform then? if he had any say in the lecture hall's formation due to his past he didn't seem to like it
>>322451187
do chalice dungeons for more ingredients. Sucks, I know.
So how many people killed patches the spider without realizing he wasn't an enemy?
>>322450791
>>322450386
I'm just saying that he was still sentient, like a person, despite being a fucking cannibalistic psychopath
>>322451006
the church and the hunters were cooperating, the church controlled blood ministration and the workshop was used for enhancing weapons through blood crystals, it's not that surprising the hunters workshop is atop oedon chapel
no-one recognizes the saw hunter badge because yharnam is totally fucked and it has been yonks since the hunt was taken seriously and the church was in on it, and it's not the symbol of hunters
>>322440892
>go through all this fucking trouble to be his friend
>deal 3 falling damage to pissant little beast
>instantly under a hail of minigun bullets
>kick his ass because I am now overleveled
>>322451467
Yeah, I did. Not really a problem though unless you want the emote, which I guess is another reason to spare him
>>322451627
he also gives a decent rune if you respond nice
>>322451352
The dodge thing could be your TV, what response time does it have? above 8ms you start to notice shit like that.
And yeah the camera is shit against some bosses, mainly Amy, Paarl and Bloodletting Beast.
It just doesn't zoom out enough even for unlocked combat. The DLC fixed this for newer bosses like Ludwig and Failures where it actually zooms out, but they really need to fix those fucking chalice bosses.
>>322448810
I am scared to play it offline.
>>322451419
he thinks willem is a brainbox and on the right path, he's also interested in rom, kos and being granted eyes without chugging blood because he knows there's a fine line between a man and a beast
>>322446405
>bye legend
every time
>>322449513
Playing with headphones helps a lot when you are trying to figure out if there is enemies around in an area you've never been before.
>>322451704
Well damn, I never thought of that. Maybe it is my TV, hmm. How do I check what my set's response time is? The maker's website or something? Shit, I've had that thing for years, I don't even remember where I got it from...
>>322451563
ffs, the Church wasn't established until after the Ashen Plague, which was created by the people that would found the plague because they were experimenting with the poison of the forbidden forest. during the plague, they sweeped and 'saved' everyone with blood healing, which led to the founding of the church so they could continue their experiments into great one blood openly with the support of the people.
Saw hunter badge description
>"Badge crafted long ago at the Workshop. Attests to one's prowess as a hunter of beasts.
The Workshop is gone, and no group recognizes this meaningless badge, except the messengers in the bath, Who understand its profundity.
Certain things can only be entrusted with a hunter in possession of this badge, or so they believe."
says so right there, the workshop is gone, and the only one that recognizes it are the messengers.
>>322440892
>that fucking chromatic aberration
jesus christ it's painful
>messengers supposedly love you
>are massive jews whenever they sell anything to you no matter the currency
>can only be assed to actually kill something once
>>322452231
>can only be assed to actually kill something once
wait what
>>322446304
>doesn't even know what paleblood is
lore theories ignored
How come the beasts in old yharnam are midgets but the rest in the game are tall?
>>322452272
Don't they kill that doggie at the beginning? In the opening cutscene one of the doggies tries to creep on you and they set it on fire.
Is it bad that i only level up my Vitality, Endurance and Strengh?
I only level up the other stats when i want to try some other weapon.
>>322446694
Nope that's wrong. Gherman's hunters were the fucking elite and mainly used SKL weapons cause they were all about stealth and speed. The period where hunters are described as ten a penny is later when the ashen blood appears, and the people of Yharnam join together in groups to hunt.
>>322452064
Should be a model number somewhere on it, just google that along with the make my man.
My TV is 9ms I think, and I definitely noticed a bit of input delay going from a 2ms monitor, but a lot of that was to do with a shit ton of post processing trash your TV has set to on by default. All that shit does is delay how quickly the picture displays, so I'd suggest going into the settings and disabling anything like 'HDMI True Black', Noice reduction, film mode and shit like that.
>>322452346
that's the Hunter that was treating you, or Iosefka before she became an ayy
>>322452346
they didn't even kill it, just injured it
>>322452346
they don't kill it, your hunter's mark sets it on fire, it's the first enemy waiting at the bottom of the stairs with half health. the messengers sense your hunter's mark/will and come to you.
I've never played the game but I've watched the Ludwig battle and that moonlight blade looks fucking badass, does it ever tell you how Ludwig originally obtained it? Did he just have some forge it for him?
Ludwig must have been a badass before he turned into a beast and shit, right? Also is that girl on the cover of the "Old Hunter's" DLC OP? She looked OP as fuck for some reason.
How do I into arcane guys?
I want to PvP as an ayylmao
>>322452381
Thanks man, I'll try that. I've beaten the game like 8 times and was starting to get frustrated, but now I realize I might have been playing with a gimped dodge. Hopefully this will make things easier.
Just started playing Bloodborne and decided I was going to focus on the Skill stat
Did I fuck up?
The Cleric beast has already given me a good whoopin
>>322452529
step 1. Pump everything into ARC
step 2. Get an Arcane Bloodgem
step 3. Clear Old Hunters
step 4. Become an ayy.
>>322452684
what weapon did you pick?
>>322452752
The skill based one, Cane whip thing
I've heard there aren't a lot of different weapons in this game, I will get some more choices soon, right?
>>322452684
just don't ignore vit and end your first run
if your weapon isn't at least +2 don't attempt cleric beast
try to beat gascoigne first
>>322452816
I heard the Cane whip is the worst starting weapon in the game, the axe thingy is the strongest and best starting weapon but don't listen to me I've never played the game.
I just know what I've heard and read on /v/ and other places....
>>322452816
for skill it goes cane then spear gun then church pick. but if you go skill blood you can get the chikage pretty soon without going into the DLC which is blood level 65+
>>322452829
>gascoigne
I saw something on the ground that said something about summoning that guy but didn't do it. I thought it was going to let me engage in jolly cooperation or something
>>322452684
Skill's really good. Don't expect to stagger anything though. Dodge into attacks, you're literally invincible while dodging. Cane is considered serrated while in whip form, so you deal bonus damage to Beasts.
Cleric Beast doesn't really need any special treatment, apart from bashing his head for a Visceral Attack.
>>322453003
you can summon him to help with cleric beast
i don't recommend it
do more exploring
check out the sewers
>>322452816
There is a good amount now, you can suicide run through the DLC to get like 4 more in the starting area.
>>322452816
you're fine. stay near his weak arm, have the cane transformed (serated weapons do more damage to beasts), whip him a few times (if you are lucky you will hit his head too) then transform attack back to normal mode.
rinse and repeat, don't forget the visceral attacks on the head. don't bother trying to parry it
>>322453078
>check out the sewers
You mean for the sick Box Art armor I found down there earlier?
Why couldn't Gehrman win Maria's heart?
>>322452816
Cane is tough to work with since it has only one big strength (range) and a lot of weaknesses (low raw power early on, slowish, doesn't stagger well) and speed+staggering is usually the easiest way to deal with things.
Just use saw spear for now and upgrade to holy blade once you get access to it since it scales with skill and str.
>>322453160
there's more and i think it leads to the next boss, which is better as a first compared to clericremember firearm
Does anybody's game come with two box arts?
>>322440892
OLD YHARNAM - BURNED AND ABANDONED BY MEN - IS NOW HOME ONLY TO BEASTS. THEY ARE OF NO HARM TO THOSE ABOVE.
TURN BACK. OR THE HUNTER SHALL FACE THE HUNTED.
>>322453273
>ludwig's meme sword
you'll ruin the game for him
>>322452816
The Threaded Cane is my favourite of the three starting weapons but it's also definitely the most difficult to start with, as it doesn't do as much damage as the other two or have a strong spammable attack like the Hunter's Axe. Cleric Beast has a fair amount of HP so he can be tough to beat with it on your first playthrough unless you upgrade it once or twice. You can skip him if you don't want to fight him right now, since all beating him does is allow you to buy the Kirkhammer (which is a Strength weapon) and a key that lets you bypass an upcoming section.
A lot of the better Skill weapons are in the DLC or late in the game unfortunately. Well, that goes for most of the weapons in this game.
>>322452281
Is paleblood not the blood of the Great Ones and Kin? What else would it be?
>>322453282
Nah man, wolfman pushed my shit in for the longest time. he was my souls boss that you somehow get stuck on, but once i killed him everything was a breeze
it was then i learned that you had to be aggressive
>>322453328
it's reversible, if that's what you mean
>>322453495
Yeah, its realy nice. Never seen it done before.
>>322453405
if you beat gascoigne just move on if cleric beast still bothers you
>>322453390
It's the blood red moon and/or Moon presence
They not only straight up tell you this ("Behold! A Paleblood sky!") but right from the beginning you seek paleblood to "transcend (not just escape) the hunt," which happens when you kick MP's ass.
>>322452076
pretty sure the church was established before the ashen plague:
"Attire of special Church doctors.
These doctors are superiors to the black preventative hunters, and specialists in experimentally-backed blood ministration and the scourge of the beast.
They believe that medicine is not a means of treatment but rather a method for research. and that some knowledge can only be obtained by exposing oneself to sickness."
>says so right there, the workshop is gone, and the only one that recognizes it are the messengers.
and this proves what? I agreed the workshop is gone and only the messengers recognize the saw hunter badge
well it's not really true that NOBODY recognizes it, because there are characters like henryk who use the saw cleaver, but I think it's saying the tradition of hunting has fallen into obscurity
>>322453349
Axe is worse
Cleaver is worse
game is ez
>>322453390
easiest way to put it is blood of beasts are infected red blood cells, kin blood is plasma, and paleblood is white blood cells
>>322452929
Only in pure numbers.
The Cane is extremely versatile with its whip mode getting a 20% bonus vs beasts and it's range.
It's basic mode is decent, not as fast as the saw cleaver but faster than the axe.
>>322453719
Cleaver is the best weapon in the game, period. Fast as fuck, long reach and slams enemies into the ground. Serrated, good Arcane scaling, and good damage. It's the perfect weapon
>>322453750
paleblood is the moon presence:
"The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood."
>>322453846
saw spear is better
exactly the same as the cleaver except it has a better move-set and piercing damage
>>322450430
>Not keeping Ludwig around for those cute horse noises.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMw7LsSjdg
>doing SRRC
>get in with some fucking Aussie with shit tier connection
>mfw trying to parry HMPH HMPH in this shit
>>322447806
When did you come back exactly?
>>322453947
It cannot slam
>>322454056
Pretty sure it was after I beat Rom.
>>322453846
>It's the perfect weapon
haha no
>>322453947
>exactly the same as the cleaver
It's a SKL weapon, Cleaver is STR.
The only advantage Spear has over Cleaver is serrared in extended form, and extended forms on both Saw's are dogshit anyway.
>>322454143
to be honest, I haven't got the DLC, so I don't know about the DLC weapons.
>>322446568
He gave you warnings nigger. If you avoided all the hunters and his bitch servant you could've just talked to him at the top of the ladder.
>>322453998
it amazes how much they must have spent on hiring voice actors to do animal noises in this game
>>322454056
It happens if you go back any time after the Blood Moon.
>>322454193
you're supposed to kill Paarl first to be able to talk to him.
>>322454174
extended form is good as fuck for the saw spear
excellent piercing attacks, knock people the fuck up and down, nice sweeping attacks
>>322454193
Only if you've killed Paarl and come up from the opposite side. Which is honestly such a detour that I just kill Djura every time.
>>322453885
I don't think they would be so blatant about it, though. Just hear me out for a minute.
You need to seek Paleblood to transcend the hunt. Obviously, all of the Great Ones and Kin possess blood that is pale in color. When you "transcend the hunt," you actually BECOME a great one yourself, thus obtaining Paleblood in the process. The Healing Church has been using the blood of the Great Ones in order to reach a higher plane of existence, which gives the emissaries pale blood.
As for the note you mentioned, it's written like a excerpt from some kind of report and it's even found in the Byrgenwerth lecture hall IIRC, a place to study the Great Ones from the labyrinth. The note mentions the MP and ends with just one word to classify it as a Great One: "Paleblood."
The word couldn't possibly just be an alias to only the Moon/MP.
>>322454108
Fuck this game. Whoever I try to save ends up fucking dying. I just want a happy ending.
>>322454403
I think the happiest NPC endings you can get are Alfred and Eileen.
>>322454225
Thanks
Did anyone else feel the DLC being extremely more depressing than the standalone game?
>>feeling sad as fuck hearing "has someone, anyone seen my eyes"
>>322454403
I don't think any Souls game actually lets you save any of the NPCs you come across
>>322454443
Chapel Dweller
>>322451050
Is this chalice dungeon co-op? I tried getting back into the game but I could never fucking get some co-op action going outside cathedral ward or old yharnam.
>>322454514
>tfw you cant save ostrava no matter what
>>322454403
he always dies anon. just like the little girl by the window.
Come back and tell me about saving when you fail to save elenn the crow during the FIRST FUCKING FIGHT against henryk and you have to live with that shit for the rest of the game.
>>322454279
It's laughably slow and the R1 only covers a 90 degree angle instead of a 180 like most other horizontal strikes leaving you wide open on one side.
The poke is alright but it's full charge is shit because it directs downward, so it's shorter than most other thrust attacks.
R1 spam and L1 transform attack are the only things worth using with the Saw Spear.
>>322454345
No what I did is I just ran past the enemies and climbed the ladder leading to him. I didn't have to go through Paarl.
>>322454509
Depressed and blown away all at once. The DLC really explains the true motives behind the Healing Church, and the while experience is just incredible.
>>322454402
>Obviously, all of the Great Ones and Kin possess blood that is pale in color
that's not true, in fact I think the opposite might be true, none of the great ones have pale blood, it's kin that do
>>322454669
Don't lie to me, anon. I tried the same thing.
>>322454564
Yeah, use the Short Ritual Root Chalice on the first chalice gravestone and do co-op quicksearch, only takes a couple minutes to find some action.The hosts will most likely die 70% of the time, have fun.
>>322454248
Must've been a glitch for me. I didn't have to go through Paarl.
>>322454596
it's only directed downwards if you don't aim it, position your camera properly and it's straight forward
also I'm pretty sure the saw spear is slightly faster but weaker than the saw cleaver sooooo
>>322454591
>Come back and tell me about saving when you fail to save elenn the crow during the FIRST FUCKING FIGHT against henryk and you have to live with that shit for the rest of the game.
>mfw when that's exactly what happened to me
>>322454721
Guess I'll grab Old Hunters and give the game another go. Kind've lost motivation when I forgot to nibble on one of the umbilical cords and killed Gehrman.
>>322454705
Aah wow actually now that you say that, Ebrietas' blood attack is red.
>>322454709
I'm not lying! I didn't have to go through Paarl!
>>322454514
Sure you can. The only person you can't save in Demon's Souls is Ostrava, the only people you can't save in Dark Souls 1 are Crestfallen Wariior, Big Hat Logan, and Siegmeyer (I think), and the only person you can't save in Dark Souls 2 is Lucatiel if I'm not mistaken.
Bloodborne is mean to its NPCs though, almost every named NPC is fucked and only a handful survive the night.
>>322454879
moon presence blood is red too, so is amygdalan blood
don't remember the wet nurse but it's either bloodless or it has red blood, it definitely doesn't have white blood
