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I don't get the hate, this guy is fantastic.
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I don't get the hate, this guy is fantastic.
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Most people only hate the laugh scene. Tidus is alright. At least in my book.
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>>322400738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyx6nWdFas
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>>322400738
>>322400983
HA HAAAAAAA HA HA HAAA

nope he's a big babby he's probably getting ready to cry right now

he's so bad he gets his head blown off
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He's an annoying bitch in every single scene.
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>>322401072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzCwFu1dYY
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>>322400983
>Litterally meant to be bad in game because it's fake enthusiasm to break the tension
>People who never played it think he's like this all the time

I'm mildly annoyed by that.
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>>322401151
I'm playing the game for the first time, if anything he's just a confused well meaning jock that sticks his foot in his mouth and says stupid shit. I think he's really likable, especially in terms of JRPG protagonists.

His reasons for hating his dad seem reasonable so far.
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>>322401279
To be honest, the english voice actor does a shit job portraying that.
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>>322401279
It doesn't matter the acting in FFX is bad anyway almost every character suffers from that shit cast except Aroun and Lulu and even they have a few shitty voiced moments
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Tidus is pretty great in my opinion. Love the fact that he is the narrator of the game.
>mfw he does the same in his dissidia subplot
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>>322401438
Which is weird, James Arnold Taylor has done good work.
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>>322401334
>especially in terms of JRPG protagonists.
He's one of the worst.
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>>322401254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3el-Kk8Fw
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>>322401514
Not to me, but I also don't like dour JRPG protagonists. My all time favorite is still Vyse.
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Tidus looks like the worst of Japanese pop culture vomited fabric all over him in disproportionate quantities. But that's not the most offensive part of this faggot. While his fashion sense could largely be ignored through the power of squinting, his emotional baggage was unavoidable and seemingly the unholy love child of Dawson's Creek and My So-Called Life. Final Fantasy X is Daddy Issues: The Game. And it's not like Tidus has any remarkable qualities outside of his angst; anyone who thinks that fake laughter is the first step to emotional recovery needs a few classes on how to be a functional human being.
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>>322401334
>especially in terms of JRPG protagonists
You musn't have played many JRPGs if TIDUS of all people tops your list of likeable protagonists.
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>>322401676
I've played my fair share. Yuri of Shadow Hearts, Vyse from Skies of Arcadia, and Stocke from Radiant Historia are probably my top 3.
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>>322400738
sometimes I hate tidus but he has some decent moments, mostly like the game for lulu and auron tho. also
>But don't tell Wakka
>WHOA, I GOTTA TELL WAKKA
gets me everytime
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>>322401576

>this came out today
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>>322401606
I'm agreeing with this anon. I couldn't finish the game; I hated the characters too much.
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>>322401606
>offensive
Stop using that word like tumblr, faggot
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>>322401334
he has shirt reasons for hating his dad though, his dad wasn't even bad, he just wanted tidus to grow up strong. if anything his mom was a shitty parent who ignored him
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>>322401807
Yuri? Seriously? That guy and every other character in that game are such cliche'd, unlikable retards. He's practically "Ow, the Edge!" for most of the game!
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>>322401606
>Daddy Issues: The Game
>Literally ONLY Tidus has a negative opinion of his father.
Here's your reply.
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hilarious to read how he's a 'whiny bitch' when he lost everything he had at the beginning of the game and at the end he learned he was not even real
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>>322401606
>Literally a dream
>LOL WHY IS HE SO AnGsTy
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>>322402187
>loses the world hrs from
>wakes up on planet with cutie girls like lulu, yuna and rikku and the main sport is still blitzball so he can become the top player.
not bad imo
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>>322400738
>Daddy issues: the game

fuck outta here w that shit
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>Tidus
>worst JRPG main chara
>not Squall

You know, at least Tidus have a personality, Squall personality can be resumed in "whatever"

Same with Lighting
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>>322401606
Tidus is hardly angsty. The most angst he has is about how his dad was an asshole to him and (he thinks) ran out on him. That's totally reasonable for a person to believe, and it isn't his sole character trait. And he progressively gets over it as the story goes along and he realizes that his father didn't abandon him, tried to do okay by him, and became a better person in Spira.

Tidus' big flaws are that he's kind of a dumbass. But he's not even a dumbass in the poorly written way where they're legitimately retarded. He's primarily just ignorant about Spira's customs and the world around him, and he gets past that as the story goes along because he takes the effort to ask questions and try to learn.

Also, I wish people would stop completely missing the point of the laughing scene. There's constant talk throughout the entire scene about how weird and awkward it is, and every single character including Tidus realizes it.
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Of course, did anyone really expect something dreamed up by this faggot to be tasteful?
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>>322402868
I WONT LET ANYONE TALK ABOUT ME IN THE PAST TENSE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>322402570
requesting edit with him bouncing a blitzball
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>>322403009
>hating on the best version of bahamut
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>>322402975
>Tidus' big flaws are that he's kind of a dumbass. But he's not even a dumbass in the poorly written way where they're legitimately retarded. He's primarily just ignorant about Spira's customs and the world around him, and he gets past that as the story goes along because he takes the effort to ask questions and try to learn.

So, pretty much Tidus is indeed the embodiment of the player who don't know a shit about Spira.
Is a flaw or necessary part of the narrative?
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I like how rediculously long it took for tidus to realize the pilgrimage meant yunas death. The guy was slow.
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>>322403402
everyone is pretty slow look how long it took for anyone in the party to realize auron was dead
seymour even spells it out at guadosalam and no one says jack shit
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>>322403318
>best version
>is literally an overdesigned gay pride parade float
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>>322403402
he's not a native of spira and nobody told him, they all avoided to talk about that, what were the clues for him?
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>>322402975
>Tidus is hardly angsty.
Tidus is two diminesional. He's either acting like an annoying idiot or an annoying crybaby.

>b-but he's meant to be a fish out of water
>b-but he's laughing to make other people think he isn't depressed!
Both are extremely poorly executed.
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>>322403639
hi
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>>322403358
Both
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>>322403709
FF writing was always poorly executed.
FFX looks dumber because was the first one to tried too hard to be like a movie.
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>>322403652
>what were the clues for him?
How about the way every single person in the game talks about it?
How about how Yuna looks back on every area like its the last time she'll ever see it (because it is)?
How about how previous summoners had statues built of them like fallen heroes?
How about asking a fucking question?

It was blatantly clear to anyone with a brain, something Tidus lacks.
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>>322403709
He mopes when he finds out that his dad turned into Godzilla and is trying to destroy the planet.

And the laughing is LITERALLY because Yuna asked him to. She told him to try to laugh out loud as loud as he could in order to pretend to be cheerful, as a Summoner's Guardian should.
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>>322401151

I'm pretty sure if you were sucked into an alternate world that's 1000 years in the future you'd just shit your pants and die, therefore you're a bigger bitch that Titus.
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>>322403876
They are both puke inducing garbage.

FF9, FF11 and FF14 have best bahamuts.
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>>322404156
Absolutely this. Why does everyone overlook this simple fucking fact?

His costume/appearance is preety ridiculious though
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Any game that has the main character say "dad I hate you" like a 2 year old to the final boss is a shit game.
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>>322401606
>that file name
>>322401576
>that ending
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>>322404460
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>>322400738
Soooo... Tidustop thread?
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>>322403964
but even characters who didnt fight sin got statues like mihen
im sure you would walk up to a qt like yuna and ask if shes gonna die after killing godzilla
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>>322404156
If I was magically teleported to a tropical island, I'd go fishing, eat coconuts and fuck the hot babes around the fire.
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>>322404748
Mmhmm.
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I love this game, but the Al Bheds' reason for kidnapping summoners is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
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>>322401576
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>>322404913
>y-you'd shit your pants and die living in a fishing village with hot women
um, no.
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>>322404632
Is he canonically dead now? Not going to make an appearance in FFX-3?
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>>322401151
well so are you
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>>322405092
I'm sure you'd show them a real good time, anon. Only thing stopping you here is this hostile urban environment, and all these damn uggos. Yeah, if girls were hotter here you'd be swimming in it.
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>>322401072
Somehow makes the show slightly watchable.
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>>322400738
He does an alright role of somebody who from his point of view transported to a completely different world and reacts accordingly to his predicament.
A lot of his reactions (minus the laughing part) would probably be what a lot of people would reasonably be if they were in his shoes.
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>>322405339
You sure are projecting anon.
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>>322403964
>How about the way every single person in the game talks about it?
he could just figure its dangerous to go fight a fucking kaiju
>How about how Yuna looks back on every area like its the last time she'll ever see it (because it is)?
again FIGHTING A GODZILLA LIKE MONSTER NIGGER
>How about how previous summoners had statues built of them like fallen heroes?
everyone important gets statues
>How about asking a fucking question?
everytime he tries to ask anything everyone stares at him like hes an autistic child and he has to fall back on muh sin toxin
he knows its dangerous but how from all that is he supposed to assume its guaranteed death from one of her own guardians
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>>322400738
>He grows up

Hes ok.
Helps that everyone in the game knows hes a chuckle fuck.
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>>322400738
English voice makes you wanna die
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>>322402010
His dad was a verbally abusive drunk and every time he came around his mother ignored him. They were both fucked up. Yeah he wanted his son to grow up strong but not every kid is going to catch on to that tough love shit in their early ages.
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>>322401279

I was yelling at a friend about this the other day. I was literally the only person I've seen understand that scene until today. Thanks.
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>>322405448
>projecting
Nice projecting.
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>>322404181
What went wrong?
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>>322402868

Squall has a personality. He says "Whatever" all the time because he's a scared kid who can't deal with the reality of anything. His fake coolguy exterior isn't even for other people's sake, either, its for his own sake.
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>>322405596
>Y-YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW DEEP IT IS!!
God you people are pathetic. Yes, people do. It's a shit scene. The purpose of the scene is shit. The acting is shit.

It's textbook example of how fucking emotionally stupid and stunted japanese people are.
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>>322403652
>>322403964

He didn't know she would die and the summoners weren't the only ones that had statues. Every time he asked a question everyone looked at him like he was supposed to know this shit when he really didn't. All he can say is "Sin's toxin".

>>322404748
But he didn't end up on the island with Wakka and the others at first. He ended up in some ruins fighting monsters and the only reason he got out was because Rikku's group found him. He would have been fucked otherwise.
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>>322405481
He probably should have gotten the hint when Rikku talked about how she didn't want summoners "sacrificing themselves" to the point where she and other Al Bhed were literally kidnapping them to prevent it.

That brainless twat just assumed she was speaking in metaphor.
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>>322405596
I dont understand how anyone didn't get that scene. I was like 11 when this game came out and understood it,.
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>>322404450

But Tidus really did love his dad. He just wanted to let him know that the alcoholism was really fucked up and ruined his childhood.
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>>322406120
>That brainless twat just assumed she was speaking in metaphor.


why would his, or anyone's first thought be "She's going to die at the end of the journey?!" considering the fact that just her going out to fight sin could be considered that.
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>>322405840
FF8 was the best one.
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>>322406128
It's not about people not understanding it, It's about people not even playing it and only know about FFX because of the laughing scene. It's like when people talk about how much they love FFVII without even playing it
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>>322402975

I think it's pretty forgiveable. I liked in the initial scene with Auron where he can barely even lift the sword he gets, really shows how out of his element he is. To go from superstar sportsman to bodyguard is a pretty big career change.
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>>322406332
Because the purpose of the jounery is to win and everyone talks like she is dead regardless.

FFX fans are as dumb as Tidus
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>>322405947

I never said it was deep. I said that all I've ever seen is people talking about how embarrassingly bad the voice acting and how awkward the scene itself is. It's supposed to be stilted, its supposed to be bad, and I have never seen anyone else on the internet say that until >>322401279.

>>322406128

People are fucking stupid, that's why they don't realize its awkward on purpose. And what happens is other stupid people see those stupid people going LOL THIS SCENE IS TRASH and since stupid people love to cling to the first opinion about something that they ever see instead of forming their own, suddenly it becomes a meme that the laughing scene is terrible, and now we can't ever have a constructive discussion about that scene or FFX in general without someone spouting AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA or I HATE YOU DAAAAAAAAD
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>>322401807
>Stocke from Radiant Historia
Stocke was a refreshing jrpg protagonist; pragmatic, caring and savvy.
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>>322406120
if i saw
https://youtu.be/89nH8Vy8agQ?t=22m59s
and then heard her say that i would assume they are talking about dying during the fight and not a sacrifice at the end my man
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>>322405840
I like the FF5 one best
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>>322406520
you forgot the moment where she was supposed to fight a monster with the ability to nuke a city in one attack
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>>322406891
Thanks for proving my point you are as dumb as Tidus anon.

The purpose of the journey is to kill Sin. Everyone speaks as if Yuna will be dead even if they win. Read between the lines you braindead fuck.
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>>322406520
>Because the purpose of the journey is to win

and as far as Tidus knew, that was just getting all the Aeons and defeating Sin. As far as he fucking knew, there was nothing outright saying that Yuna was going to die. It was never in his mind at all that Yuna was going to die by default and nobody bothered to tell him. Hell Yuna could have told him but she didn't. They just assumed he knew right off the bat.
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>>322407057
see>>322407036

FFX fanboys are morons.
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>>322405172
I read the translation of that novel from the FF wiki.

Yuna received a vision from a long dead summoner.
That summoner was a woman and had a guardian who was her lover. Another summoner, a man, asked her to have sex with him. She did so, and when the guardian found out, he raged hard. As he was about to get his revenge, an Al Bhed soldier went into the room and killed him with a bomb that was disguised as a blitzball, assuring his soul will never rest knowing that another summoner did his girl.

That female summoner'd ghost tells Yuna to tell the ghost of the guardian that she loves him, even after she cheated willingly. Yes...

She then makes Yuna sign a pact, that she will not remember her love for Tidus until she does her part and tells the guardian her feelings for him. Yuna falls asleep. In her sleep, she dreams of Tidus, who finds a blitzball, which turned out to be a bomb, and it explodes, killing him. Yuna then wakes up. I guess this was to see if Yuna would fulfill her side of the contract.

Yuna then set off to find the spirit of the guardian, and told him that the other summoner loved him, and afterwards she regained her feelings for Tidus again after putting the restless souls of the summoner and guardian to rest. The end.

I don't get it honestly. So the novel was basically how a spirit taught Yuna to cheat and not feel guilty, and doubt her partner.
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>>322401576
>that ending
Tippest toppest tippity top kek
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>>322407057
You should probably give up by the way. I think that guy might have legit autism.
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>>322407036
you're the one fucking retarded, they're talking like she has a really hard mission to complete they don't outright say "she has to die" to tidus
you're the player, of course you can tell it you dumbfuck, the MC doesn't know everything the player knows
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>>322407218
Smells like cuck mischief to me
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>>322407367
I really think he does.
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>>322407469
>I'm a fucking moron who can't read between the lines
Yes, I already established that fact about you braindead FFX fanboys.
>you're the player, of course you can tell it you dumbfuck, the MC doesn't know everything the player knows
Wrong. You are not given more information than Tidus. Tidus is just a braindead fuck, like you.
>>322407478
>>322407367
That's it anons, you can't defend your poorly written character so just say an insult and suck eachother's dicks.
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This game is so bad its almost good
The gameplay is fucking solid but the story and the characters, wew lad
Its funny in a "not supposed to be funny" way at least
I think I'd like it more if it wasn't the death of the FF series
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>>322407036

There's a big difference between "Sin MIGHT kill you" and "In order to beat Sin you have to die," my guy. I'm pretty sure Tidus understood the risk involved in taking on the responsibility of a summoner, but what nobody actually explained to him was they literally gave up their lives for it, and they knew they were going to, from day one.
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>>322407367
>>322407478
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>>322407471
If you're interested in reading it, here's a link. I still try to believe there's mistranslations there because no way its that kind of mischief, right Treebeard?
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2.5_~Eien_no_Daish%C5%8D~

A lot of fans actually believe this was fan fiction that was mistakenly published by SE.
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>>322407679
>You are not given more information than Tidus
except you are you fucking mong? plenty of cutscenes without tidus with lots of infos
damn you're so dumb, it's infuriating
I don't even like FFX but your arguments are so stupid
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>>322407761
You people really are jumping at the chance to prove me right aren't you?
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>>322400738
Same
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>>322407845
>A lot of fans actually believe this was fan fiction that was mistakenly published by SE.
literally no one believes that
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>>322407727
I don't remember FFX being so awkward when I played it all those years ago but it really is. Ah well, it was the first jrpg I remember playing with real voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMbD9yXWEM
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Post your best Tidas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXTZsiwk-ik
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>>322408105
Beautiful
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>>322407992
There were articles of it.
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>>322408392
>p4r
I wish the internet wasn't so fucking retarded.
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>>322408392
p4rgaming is a satire site, you dolt
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>>322407679
>You are not given more information than Tidus

Yes you are. We see and hear a bunch of stuff that Tidus isn't there for. We're given more pieces to put together than he is.

Everyone talks like she has a hard mission, not that she's going to outright die by default.
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FF10 is seriously the comfiest FF.
The music, the setting. It's really not a bad FF at all.

But playing through it, as well as FF7-9 again makes me realize that random battles are inherently shit and should never be implemented in a video game again. I don't know why my child self put up with this.
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>>322408105

That wound up sounding like a fucking air raid siren.
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>>322408870
I like them. I certainly like them better than the shit in XIII. Getting rid of them ends up putting the genre into a scripted battle/cutscene/scripted battle hole, which is basically what XIII is already.
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>>322408870
Yeah, I really like FF12 because of the whole no random battles

>>322409359
the ones in 13 were shitty, I hated 13, only got a couple hours in before I stopped
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>>322408870

When you put down the nostalgia shades its ridiculously cringeworthy and poorly written
9 is the comfiest, and the last true FF before most of the old dev team left
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the only good thing about final fantasy is triple triad
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>>322409552
thats not tetra master
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>>322408564
>>322408591
I guess for fans it was better to believe p4rgaming than to accept he kicked a blitzball bomb.

But check out how many would rather believe the satire site than to accept the written product.

Because the novel really does contradict the True End of FFX-2. If you finished FFX and FFX-2 you'd get a clearer picture.
MAJOR SPOILERS:
https://youtu.be/FJRQ-TVeMwA?t=1281
This should have been how it ended.


But when they made the novel they packed this in too.
Spoilers but if you think its non-canon its fan fiction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK3EfCDbOF4
They suddenly don't love each other no more.
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>>322409512
>cringy and poorly written
I don't think that at all. Is it a grand, sweeping narrative? No. But it's not the worst in vidya, or even the worst in final fantasy.
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>>322409821
FF10 is second only to Advent Children on my list of most cringeworthy things I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing
The story its self makes no sense and was written by a manchild, not even fans of the game can explain what the fuck the game was about
The cast of characters were a pack of insufferable cunts, the only exceptions being Lulu and Auron, because they barely fucking say anything at all

Tldr its shit
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>>322403358
Its not a bad idea to have the main char not know anything about the world. The player can somewhat relate to him as he learns more.
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