So many of you have been wondering what exactly "A New Generation Begins" is, but I haven't seen anyone come close. What it refers to is the age of content-locked Zelda games coming to an end. From now on, NO two players will ever have the same experience. This is because in Zelda U, the content of dungeons is generated by what you do in or outside the game.
Basically you have an overworld you will forced to change as a consequence of your choices. This will be your "Main World" but in addition there'll be two more vital worlds: A "Sacred World" which is an alteration to your liking that has no reverse causal relation to your world (meaning one will be generated for you based on your world + random factors, if you choose not to make one). This world is what players online will see when you tag them and they enter a Sacred Portal. The second is known as the Purgatory Realm, which is a collage of other people's worlds that change depending on whose you enter it from. This will have some minor connection to the Main World (below).
There will be an indeterminate number of these portals (up to 10) in the game, depending on your actions in the main story. So you will be interacting with these worlds that will form your "dungeons" i.e. Purgatory.
Imagine Lake Hylia. In one player's world, it could be a dry lake bed, a geyser spring, or frozen plain. Your progression will vary on whose world hides the item you need, and you will need to figure that out based on hints in the Main World. The game WILL feature an item shop like ALBW, but only to borrow items temporarily you need in case the players put you in a game-ending situation (say you need the Fire Arrows, but need the Ice Arrows to get them which requires the Fire Arrows). Bosses will be custom-tailored and if online, controlled by players, something that Nintendo has wanted to do since Minish Cap.
This is what Aonuma means by "your actions will affect the world," and putting a new spin on overworld design.
>>321928523
Wow, this is shit, and OP is still a fag.
>>321928523
What
>What does this have to do with the girl wanting to be the hero?
It doesn't. It's a way of identifying that this is a multiplayer experience and that this is no longer your dad or granddad's Zelda. It also drives home the point of how the dungeons will vary by generation as lower age groups will of course have much less intricate or complex dungeons.
>Also what is Zelda U's title?
Zelda: Unicorn's Throne
It's a reference to the stonehenge seen in The Wind Waker and the World Atlas of Hyrule. This game will address what it's about, and where the Gossip Stones come from through the Sheikah book Link carries that serves as his treasure map. It's also about how he gets Epona (the horse he's on isn't Epona) and the special arrowhead he has in the trailer that freezes water (you use it so you can cross bodies of water but only on Epona).
Wat
>>321929464
>unicorn's throne
Cool, I shoulda known
>>321928523
Absolute bullshit.
>>321929464
>stonehenge
>in wind waker
wat
>>321929725
Prove it.
>>321928523
Fake and gay
>>321930000
Don't tell me you've never seen it before.
It's also in A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds.
Also, I forgot to mention that the concept of Unicorn's Throne is inspired by the concept for Zelda 64, wherein Link would jump to landlocked worlds from paintings in Hyrule Castle. This later of course became the basis of ALBW too.
>>321928523
This is absolute bullshit, but I'd play the shit out of it.
>>321929464
If that turnt out to be the actual title i Woul see my entire Zelda collection and Wii u
Are we done with questions?
what
>complicated design
>Nintendo stopped trusting their players to be able to remember something said in the same conversation
Yeah sure
>>321933083
What? Elaborate.
Like, I get what you're saying sarcastically, and all, but provide an example.
>>321928523
Thats a whole lot of nonsensical bullshit for a damn video game
>procedurally generated Zelda dungeons
great way to ensure I drop the series and never pick it up again
>>321933625
not gonna happen, they live and die on level design
>>321933625
>procedurally generated
>a collage of other people's worlds that change depending on whose you enter it from
It would only be "procedurally generated" if nobody chooses to make one.
>>321929464
THIS AIN'T YO MOMMAS ZELDA
>>321928523
Elaborate on the Sacred Worlds. So they're like a variation on the Main World that you can alter? How would you change them?
So the Purgatory realms this game's version of dungeons, or do dungeons still exist in a traditional sense?
Elaborate on
>Basically you have an overworld you will forced to change as a consequence of your choices.
What kind of choices are there?
>>321930861
i don't see stonehenge in that pic dude
>>321935291
>>321929464
>>321928523
Just stop, this is no more a scoop than what I just dug out of the cat box. If you need to get yourself off writing fan fics they have websites for this kind of shit.
>>321935498
that is not stonehenge dude
>>321935498
Those are just ruins, you fucking idiot. There are other pillars and broken pieces of structures all throughout that area.
>>321928523
Wow randomly generated dungeons, revolutionary. Nintendo does it again!
>>321935041
>Elaborate on the Sacred Worlds. So they're like a variation on the Main World that you can alter? How would you change them?
Similar to Mario Maker. You would open up your book and drop obstacles and environment features into place. Or drag houses and other things from one side of the world to it based on what you do with the Main World.
For instance, let's say you want to decorate a dungeon you make with the shark jaws or whale fossils. You could go hunt a Gyorg or whale in the ocean in the Main World and drag it ashore. Then enter the Sacred World editor, and drag a copy of those things to where you want them, while not affecting the Main Game. There will be no internal interaction between your Sacred World and you that you can take back to the Main World.
>So the Purgatory realms this game's version of dungeons, or do dungeons still exist in a traditional sense?
No, there are no traditional dungeons. Everything is made on the spot. You can MAKE a cave or dungeon filled with all the staples of one, but the only thing that will resemble a dungeon will be the entrances, i.e. walkways between worlds.
>What kind of choices are there?
The game is time-dependent. Meaning, when you complete something will alter the course of history for your game. If you wait too long to tackle Death Mountain, by completing X number of dungeons first, it will erupt, and you will have an ashen wasteland the rest of the game in that part. If Zora's Domain is frozen over and you save them first, your relationship with the tribe will be better. If you help the Gerudo, you can convince them not to assail Hyrule for control of the Valley. Things like that.
>>321936093
Look at the Atlas.
>>321936246
I'm OP. Don't throw insults at my bro there backing me up, you plebeian.
>>321936976
You're both retarded.
>>321936857
>You could go hunt a Gyorg or whale in the ocean in the Main World and drag it ashore
anon pls this is a zelda game not fucking assassins creed or something
This sounds pretty fucking dumb, but goes along with what I've been saying; which is that they haven't shown us a single dungeon yet.
>>321937167
Such creed, much assassin!
>>321937298
to be fair they really haven't shown us anything yet. has any other zelda had this little information shared within a year of release?
>>321937525
oh wow a fish on a map that proves everything
Great. Thanks OP. Your thread just gave me AIDS of the ass. I have ass AIDS now thanks to you.
>>321937525
Watch out, this is a Zelda game! You can't expect to see this in it.
It's not like this is the series that gives us explicitly naked women in a rated E for 12 game and gets away with it. Or made an execution chamber a dungeon in Twilight Princess (In Japanese version).
>>321936976
what is the atlas going to tell me that will make that pile of ruins look remotely like stonehenge
>>321938341
It's not LITERALLY stonehenge. You think I would deliberately mean that Zelda stole a landmark from a real world location?
But clearly it's a reference to it. Can you think of any other recurring stone arch structures in the series near bodies of water?
The Atlas is a depiction of Zelda locations in a caricatural fashion. If you look at the Sacred Temple guardians, they also look way different than they do in TP, but look the way they do in the concept art in Hyrule Historia for the game.
In the same sense, this is Hyrule's "stonehenge."
>>321930069
That's not how burden of proof works, faggot.
>>321928523
This is all true. To add to this, the title is "Valley of the Flood," Epona is a motorcycle, and the Master Sword is a gun, but it's still called a sword for some reason. Also, everything is steampunk and Link is an old man.
>>321939795
I believe this man. I just have a feeling.
So It's gonna be shit.
I like Zelda games better when they don't try to pull off any gimmicky bullshit.
Is that map supposed to be part of the leak? Because it is a puzzle you could buy at Gamestop right now.
>>321939263
none of that makes it clearly a reference to stonehenge, it's clearly some kind of square functional structure whereas stonehenge is widely considered to be a symbolic monument without a clearly functional design. if it was a reference to stonehenge they'd make it look like stonehenge.
>>321928523
I hope you're retarded OP. That is not the Zelda that I want.
>>321937909
>Or made an execution chamber a dungeon in Twilight Princess (In Japanese version).
what
>>321939263
>But clearly it's a reference to it
No it fucking isn't
>>321940297
>whereas stonehenge is widely considered to be a symbolic monument without a clearly functional design.
Prove it. Because I know that's wrong in more ways than one. So I'm curious what secularist told you Stonehenge has no functional design. Because they're selling you something and you're clearly buying without checking the package.
>>321940682
In the Japanese version it's an execution ground for criminals. Not a prison like they claim in the US. (NoA exclusive bullshit)
>>321940779
P-r-o-v-e i-t.
I showed you my argument (DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER STONE ARCHES ON THAT MAP? and the guardians), now brandish yours.
>>321941568
>I showed you my argument (DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER STONE ARCHES ON THAT MAP? and the guardians), now brandish yours.
It's fucking ruins, that doesn't make it Stonehenge.
So now Zelda is ripping off Hydlide?
>>321941568
>Prove it. Because I know that's wrong in more ways than one. So I'm curious what secularist told you Stonehenge has no functional design. Because they're selling you something and you're clearly buying without checking the package.
i'm not going to prove what it's 'widely considered' to be dude. the point is you can point at those rocks in the zelda pic and comfortably say it used to be a building. also the atlas pic and the one in the wind waker are absolutely nothing like, although i suppose they're alike in that neither of them resemble stonehenge.
>>321941715
>>321941787
Oh ok, so neither of you have an argument and concede it's a landmark inspired by stonehenge in both pictures. That's all I needed to hear.
>>321928523
Just think, someone took the time out of their life to type this wall of bs for literally no reason other than hoping to convince a neckbeard that this would be cool
>>321935498
Surely given the location it's probably a ruined Temple of Time or something
>>321942049
unless it's legit
>>321942045
That's not how burden of proof works you mongoloid.
>>321928523
>>321942216
I asked you for proof and you refused, so you forfeited the argument you started in claiming that it isn't an obvious reference to stonehenge.
If you asked anyone on the street what the monuments in ALttP, TWW, and that atlas are all inspired by; everyone would say stonehenge. You're the only one insisting it isn't. You and the other guy.
>>321942185
yeah because any fluent english speakers have any fucking clue about the progress of zelda u
>>321942579
Hi, I'm a third anon and you're fucking stupid. The burden is on YOU to prove that they are inspired by stonehenge, not others to disprove it. Saying "Me and some random people I know think it looks inspired by stonehenge so it is" isn't fucking proving anything you retard.
>>321942095
But Hyrule Castle is implied to have been built over it. Only Link can wield the sword, so it had to have remained in place until Ganon's attack when it froze everything ala Link's slumber. The geography also matches OoT.
Walking out of the back of Hyrule Castle to Ganon's Tower is the same as walking out of the Temple of Time to Ganon's Castle.
So, sauce on OP gif?
>>321942579
>prove that something ISN'T real
Fucking
>>321943057
Some artist featured on Kotaku.
OPs fucking insane. Literally no one is buying your shit.
Post lewd Zelda
>>321928523
>Zelda U
Fuck off OP with your Zelda shit, you faggot. The only good Zelda games are OoT and Majora's Mask. The rest are garbage, not to mention the fanbase is full of cringe worthy neckbeards and faggots who worship Nintendo
>>321937525
WHAT DOES IT MEAN I WONDER?
>>321943412
Thanks.
>>321943449
wew
>>321928523
Nintendo would never incorporate something this unnecessarily complex into Zelda
This is some world tendency tier shit and I bet you got this idea from dark souls
fuck off
>>321943762
Dark Souls ripped off of Twilight Princess.
>>321943864
In what way
>>321929464
>Zelda: Unicorn's Throne
Get a load of this pile of bullshit
>>321929464
>Unicorn's Throne
When the next direct comes and they decide to finally show some zelda, if that's the name, I will officially start to panic.
>>321943969
>invented dodge-rolling with lock-on, the Souls series' life blood.
>invented on-spot item combinations in real-time (yes, in the inferior Wii version, you can add lantern oil, or bait to your rod, or make bomb arrows by pausing, but who does that?)
>campfire saving and incendiary bombs is probably taken from TP's huge emphasis on fire which was supposed to be its big feature. The game was to have procedural burning for any and all wooden objects.
>same with and lanterns. That was also a big thing in TP because the idea for the game was to make day and night realistic; so you weighed the option of whether you wanted to go out into the pitch dark and might run out of fuel, or go out in the morning when you could see.
>Ghost NPC soldiers you can interact with like TP has everywhere.
>breakable shields. The text slides in the TP trailer was "Blades will bleed. Shields will shatter." And in a new trailer that same year you see Link break a Stalfos' shield. I don't remember if this was in the game.
Tell me this trailer doesn't give you a Dark Souls/Bloodborne vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSWr2UU8bQ
>>321944750
with a title like that i would have been worried even without this thread
>>321945098
While Souls games clearly have a Zelda influence, you're really grasping at straws here. I would like to see a Zelda game with some inspiration from Souls combat (stamina and slow paced combat).
>>321945714
>Stamina
Please god no. Stamina in action games is becoming passe and should be limited to games like Souls.
>>321929464
>Zelda: Unicorn's Throne
>>321945714
>stamina and slow paced combat
Hell no. What I'd really like to see are the return of sword techniques like in TP, but with more useful moves.
>>321945902
Or just something that ends the OoT framework really. Combat needs some tweeks without relying on a specific controller.
Lol what a gay thread.
OP is a gay, delusional psychopath who thinks he's Iwata.
>>321929464
Why are people so bad at making fake Zelda title names for leaks?
>>321945098
>TP's huge emphasis on fire which was supposed to be its big feature. The game was to have procedural burning for any and all wooden objects.
Don't lie on the internet, Anon.
>>321946649
Probably because Zelda titles themselves are pretty shitty in the first place, especially recently.
>>321928523
what about ganon?
>>321945714
>>321945902
Ocarina of Time was supposed to have stamina-based gameplay right up until a year before its release. It would decrease as you lost health, making Link bipedally slower and less agile in his swordsmanship (slower attacks and slower to block attacks). Originally the A button would be to dash, or jump if standing still, presumably as Link got slower it became a roll to help you get away.
Your speed was also affected by temperature, wind direction, and weather (but not slope like Mario according to Miyamoto). This was lost and the only thing that was salvaged was the temperature feature in the form of the Goron Tunic. That's why it's only seen in screenshots later.
There is only one surviving video of this gameplay but it looks amazing. (The video works, it only looks like it doesn't)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtV2oYqNtqk
>>321928523
>So many of you have been wondering what exactly "A New Generation Begins" is
it's the first time I ever hear of this bullshit
>>321947253
Have you been living under a rock the last two days?
>>321947216
That is completely different from Souls or Monster Hunter stamina gameplay.
>>321947458
yes fill me in please
>>321947253
Some random site is claiming that they saw a new Zelda commercial with a dad and a little girl. Some footage from Zelda 1, 2 and ALTTP is shown, and then the words "a new generation begins". Then "only on WiiU" logo.
OP is dickriding that shit.
>>321947216
You shouldn't lie on the internet, son.
>>321947216
That doesn't look at all different from the final product.
>>321947458
No, I've been actually living and enjoying the festivities with my family, you know, like real people do, sorry if I don't live on 4chan shitposting all day like your sorry ass.
>>321947216
that has nothing of what you're saying in it and is the final release but horribly pixelated
>>321928523
This sounds like someones shitty fanfiction game.Because it actually is
>>321928523
>>321944397
Artist name?
>>321947216
This video doesn't show a single thing that you are talking about.
Really, you need to stop lying on the internet.
>>321929464
>Unicorn's Throne
After shitty titles like Twilight Princess, Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass and Skyward Sword, this honestly wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Also nice fan pasta, OP.
On the one hand, that giant black hole at the southwest corner of the map does kinda resemble a portal of sorts. Or something very ominous.
>>321947759
>>321948075
I don't remember Link being able to intercept attacks with his sword or do a jump attack by leaping straight up into the air first in regular OoT.
>>321948819
Or backflip halfway across a room.>>321947759
>>321948075
>>321928523
let me guess, your dad is Miyamoto?
>>321947216
Not that anon, but I know for a fact that OoT was going to have
>seasons
>Shadow of The Colossus-styled boss fights
>Mounted combat similar to Twilight Princess
>optional 1st person mode
But they couldn't include any of it due to limitations.
>>321948819
>>321948925
Stop. Just stop.
>>321928523
>implying that it won't be named after the Sheikah book on Link's hip from the latest teaser
Just stop, OP.
>>321949184
I remember an interview with Miyamoto where he said that Link would go to the moon and fight aliens, but they couldn't fit in into the story so they wrote it into Majora's Mask.
>>321949741
That sounds pretty awesome honestly.
We could've had Bloodborne and Shadow of the Colossus years and years ago if Nintendo wasn't stupid as fuck with their decision-making.
>>321949741
>>321949184
Miyamoto is literally an ideas guy incarnate. He needs to stick to programming.
>>321949901
>Miyamoto
>doing anything remotely okay anymore.
Guy's a senile dinosaur now and should've retired years ago.
>>321949901
He's making it up you moron.
>>321949184
>seasons
You're right.
>Shadow of the Colossus-style boss fights
I've never seen proof of this.
>Mounted combat
Right.
>optional 1st person mode.
Wrong. The game was planned to be in first-person mode, but Yoshiaki Koizumi said it never got past the concept stage, because he immediately made it third-person from the start.
>>321949741
BS, but I'd believe it if you got a link to proof. Miyamoto came up with the story of Majora's Mask but there's no way it was planned since OOT.
>>321950147
Not that anon but it is a definite fact that Miyamoto admitted that the Triforce was essentially ancient ayy tech, or rather the equivalent to a "reality-bending floppy disc" of sorts. Also Link would time-travel between a dark ages future and a sci-fi past via Chrono trigger or Alex The Kid.
It seems like they're diving back into that original premise if Skyward Sword's background story is any indication.
I wish I could find the interview; it's going to take some serious searching.
>>321950480
>Miyamoto came up with the story of Majora's Mask
No that was Koizumi, with some random silliness from Aonuma thrown in.
And SoTC boss battles were also Koizumi's idea.
>>321950136
On contraire, him not making games anymore is the reason they suck these days. Everything good about Zelda has always come from him or the director of AoL Yoichi Yamada (since Miyamoto says he had no hand in that game aside from the story).
Koizumi, Tezuka, Aonuma, and Fujibayashi are the senile dinosaurs.
>>321950681
That was the original plan for the original Legend of Zelda.
>>321950817
You're right. Miyamoto came up with the story of a parallel world with a time-limit though. Koizumi came up with the falling moon.
Still waiting on that sauce for those fights, unless you're referring to Twinmold which was a special exception and used a mask that made you the same size anyway.
>>321950887
>Koizumi, Tezuka, Aonuma, and Fujibayashi are the senile dinosaurs.
>Koizumi
>senile dinosaur
He has a much better track record than the other 3, so I disagree with your opinion. He was also responsible for most of the basis lore, OoT revolutionary Z-targeting system, MM three-day time system & the mask system, most of the npc quest, the stories and among other things.
Aonuma has always been a lame yes-man to Miyamoto, Tezuka literally is going senile and Fuji should stick to 2D only - because he fucking dropped the ball with SS big time.
On the other hand, Miyamoto ruined Sticker Star, Project Robot and Star Fox Zero look like gimmicky trash, and his only legit game last gen was Wii Music. It's time for the man to go, he's overstayed his welcome.
>>321950887
>Koizumi
>senile dinosaur
He's still making the best Mario games, no way he is senile.
>>321950887
Koizumi has the pull of a lame donkey nowadays. This is Miyamoto's new sock puppet he uses for Mario now.
