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Why aren't you interested in XV?
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Why aren't you interested in XV?
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>>322383297

Because FF is shit now, m8.
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But I am, just release the fucking game already.
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Because of XIII

All is lost. Abandon ship.
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because it runs at 20fps. if it was coming for pc i'd play it but the framerate during the demo really really annoyed me
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Because it was downgraded and is full of faggots.
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>>322383297

Because it's not on PC.
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It'll be my first FF.

I was gonna get 7 remake, but not anymore..
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>>322383297
I'm not changing my decision to buy this on console but I want those models in SFM so I hope there's a PC version.

Gawd the things I would subject her to.
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>>322383718
PCuck
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>>322383297
Only one controllable party member. Kingdom Hearts combat.
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>>322383297
Something to do with me not being gay.

I hate boybands enough when I'm not actively in control of one (and only one) of its members.
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>>322383297
Only available on obsolete platforms.
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>>322384393
Usually people who claim to dislike gays are actually homos

Just sayan
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dead on arrival
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>>322384616
>people are what they don't like

I love idiots like you.
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I thought it was multiplat, what's with all the sour grapes from PClards?
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>>322384616
that's propaganda
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>>322384616
Well these few party members better all have interesting story arcs since were stuck with them for the entire game.
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>>322383297
FFXV-kun has deterred me a bit.
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I've noticed something with Final Fantasy games: If the airships aren't literally boats with propellers glued on, I'm probably not going to enjoy it.
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>>322383995


>Kingdom Hearts combat

Not anymore, son.
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>>322383297
Because we really don't know what the scope of the game is yet.

Also I don't really like how the game world looks like. The "fantasy based on reality" approach they took when designing the world doesn't look interesting at all.
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>>322384393
Go back to playing DOA, this game isn't for you. It's for us fujos, stay mad we get pandered to and you don't.
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>>322383297
>You typically have airship travel in FF games
>Cid is often associated with Airships
>You primary form of transportation in XV is a car
>Cidney is a mechanic
I feel like a retard for just realizing this.
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>>322383297
bc it's a sausage party
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>>322383297
I have low expectations.
Plan on keeping it like that.
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>>322383297
I'm buying this on PS4, but I support a PC port 100% just so other people have an opportunity to enjoy the game as well also, I want SFM rips of those models.
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>>322383297

The party is full of visual kei fuccboys.
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>>322384616

and usually people who claim people who dislike gays are homos are actually double-homos

Just sayan
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>>322383297
No plot relevant airship.
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game looks fun as fuck honestly, the only FF i really didn't like was 13 and they already redeemed themselves to me with 13-2
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>>322383809
>It'll be my first FF.

No one wants you.
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>>322383297
I hope the combat doesn't change too drastically form the demo. I actually liked it.
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>>322385650
This entire game was an excuse for the dev team to take multiple vacations.
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>>322383297
I am though. ATR sometime this month and then the March event.
I'm actually really looking forward to it after completely skipping the Lightning saga.
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>>322386536
Big deal.
I main Cloud on Smash too.
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>>322386860

>Physics based animation hit reaction
>Proceeds to show sasuke completely ignoring the monster attacks

wut
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>>322383297
But I am. It's one of my most hyped games. Everything about it looks good.
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>>322385612
>>322386128
Good. You can go back to your waifubait shit now, I'll enjoy this game made just for me. A fujo
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>>322387278
It's obviously some sort of noclip for the demo.
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>>322387278
It's a dev showing shit, it's not fully in-game. He's invincible.
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>>322383297
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>>322387278

>its a hologram
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>>322388415
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Because Final Fantasy has been complete shit for years. The last Final Fantasy I liked was Lost Odyssey.
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>>322383297
There hasn't been a good FF game since XII.
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>>322385650

This is great. I would love to explore this world.

As anybody other than a party of modern day fashion models driving around in an expensive car.
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>>322387278
I'm pretty sure the point was to show that the height at which the swipe is held and slam stops is dynamic to the environment to help minimize the large clipping of limbs that sometimes occurs in other games. Sasuke has some sort of noclip on, and is probably just there to cause the enemy to attack a target area/person.
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>>322383297
>cindy isnt a party member
>the main cast is a sausagefest
>they'll probably pander to fujoshits

I'll still try it out. The demo seemed okay.
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>>322387891
Final Fantasy is anything with a blue UI.

-Sakaguchi.

You're a faggot.
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Final Fantasy lost its way, and now they keep on pushing these horrible futuristic and modern games with cringeworthy metrosexual main characters.
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>>322391859
Nigga every single FF game had modern and futuristic elements in it.
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>>322391859
You just described 7 pretty well
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Horrible aesthetic (realism and anime do not mix)
Horrible characters (fujoshi pandering faggots)
Horrible gameplay (braindead button masher)
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>>322383297
what even was the last good final fantasy game?
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>>322383297
I am and it sucks we'll never be able to talk about it because of FFXV-kun.
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>>322392458
Lost Odyssey
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I am though, it looks like fun.

Will it have a PC release or am I doomed to play it at a cinematic buttery smooth 30 FPS on my BloodborneStation?
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>>322392458
X
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>>322392584
who is this semen demon?
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>the one game where the main cast is actually a sausagefest
>you cant fuck them

fuck nips
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>>322392540
I never understood the FFXV-kun meme. All he does is to tell the shitposters to kill themselves and post information the devs releases be cause too many people say false shit
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>>322383297
Pseudo-action MMO wannabe JRPGs are shit.
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>>322393238
You must not have been here for some of his biggest meltdowns.
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>>322393392
I haven't. Link? Maybe my opinion of him will change
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Because after like 25 games with the name final fantasy, nobody cares anymore. Kind of like nobody cares about mario games anymore.
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>>322393575
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320925036
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320799023

There's a lot more threads if you just search FFXV-kun. The thing about that whole thing is that some people like to shout FFXV-kun with no provocation when there's clearly a "FFXV-kun" if you pay attention as he uses the same pic and makes the same points in the same way in a kind of obvious manner even when they're not relevant to the discussion at hand.
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>>322393575
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/320517676/#320524617
Keep in mind he's almost always like this.
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>>322383297
those character designs look like ass

is that shadow the edgehog
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>>322383718
Isn't it though? It makes no sense for them not to release it on PC at some point considering how easy it is to port, it was running on PC before it did PS4.
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Because it's been in development for

1 0 Y E A R S
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Y
E
A
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>>322392584
Who is this fluid druid?
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But I am. At the worst I get the prettiest console game ever made.
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No waifus no buy.
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>>322393937
But each mainline FF game is different. It is one of the few series immune to IP fatigue as it constantly tries new shit.
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Ignis is the only one who doesn't dress like a complete retard.
He's still a faggot for wearing driving gloves but at least they're actually used for driving.
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>>322394997
>>322393134
I don't know but her autism is cute.
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>>322383297
Because I want games that play like FFV, FFVII or FFX-2. Not this unfun, casualized, wowitsfuckingnothing battle system in their recent releases.

Give me a mother FUCKING job system so that I can REPLAY the game with different party compositions, different item setups, different experiences.

Give me games like FFX-2 that have New Game + and have a SHIT TON of missable content. Not this linear fucking absolute horseshit drivel they put out.

UUUURRRGHH
I am so frustrated with this fucking franchise. They used to make such amazing fucking games. Full of content, full of replay value. Now it's just linear banter piss.
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>>322394721

>people actively move out of your way

That is some deep shit right there.
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>>322395491
>Actually moving out of the way.
What kind of world is this where pedestrians aren't assholes?
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playing as a group of faggots with a gimped kingdom hearts combat system doesn't interest me

if it was turn based i could excuse the faggots
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I'm about 40 minutes into the demo. Controls are strange as fuck. Can't into warping and dodging
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My husbando is not the focus of it
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>>322395992
Excellent taste anon.
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>>322395640
i'd move out of the way too if a flaming faggot like that came up to me
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But I am, OP. Hopefully it's the first FF game I'll be able to get into since I don't like turn based combat.
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>>322395992
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>>322383297
I am, and have never played FF before
Whens it getting released?
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>>322395357
>Not this linear fucking absolute horseshit drivel they put out.
But that's not FFXV.
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>>322396194
Sometime this year.
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>>322396158
Silky smooth.
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Don't like Action RPGs, if I want an action game I'd play DMC or Revengence or even God of War.
Visually boring party, can only control one party member.

Also the bad guys being a fuck-ton cooler than the protagonists doesn't help.
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>>322386226
I've seen enough hentai to know where that's going
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this game will end SE

and it will be glorious
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>>322397054
SE is alright desu. Star Ocean 5 and Setsuna look cosy.
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>>322385131
this is probably the most accurate thing ive ever read here.
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Reminder that FFXV-Kun killed all enjoyment of this game and the threads on /v/.
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As someone who never got into FF I'm actually very interested in it, but I have a feeling that means it's not as attractive to fans.
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>>322395357
You look like you don't even know what FF XV is.
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>>322396258
But it's fucking not. Just look at it. Just fucking look at it! You gonna tell me it's filled with secrets and exploration and mini-games and meta-games and branching mission/storylines? You gonna tell me there's actual character customization and deep party setup? Come the fuck on.
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final fantasy has turned from a RPG with a story to a walking simulator that lets virgins self insert themselves into the poorly written characters shoes.

Or play as their waifu
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>>322383297
Open world drivel / timewaster
Buttonmashy action game with zero depth
Slowdowns up the ass
The cast is essentially a gakt boyband

There's just too much cancer contained into one game for me, so no interest can be generated.
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>>322399601
>secrets and exploration and mini-games and meta-games and branching mission/storylines
How do you know it won't have those?
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>>322394771
It will be released on PC once they cashed in the consolecucks out of their $60+special edition scam versions.
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>>322399764
That glasses thing only happens when someone is sitting in front of a monitor or something. That person could've actually achieved that lighting if they'd just used proper... lighting.

And if they didn't look like a cringy fuck in the first place.
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>>322385462
>calling yourself a fujo
>being a fujo

Pls be in london and then kill yourself.
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I've played Duscae multiple times and collected everything the game has to offer. I'm quite excited about the full game's release.
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>>322383297
I actually think it will be a more enjoyable experience than the FF7 remake. If only Square ports it to PC.
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>>322383297
But I am, mainly because I want to fuck Cidney.
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First day buy. Surprising because I told myself I wouldn't buy the next FF immediately after playing 13 but I have a good feeling with this one.
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>>322400864
What a coincidence, I want male Cidney to fuck me
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>>322401159
>Not wanting to be Cidney and get fucked
Gay.
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>>322395080
Awooo
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>>322384719
>el protagonista es sasuke uchiha

Gets me every fucking time
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>>322399764
>final fantasy has turned from a RPG with a story to a walking simulator that lets virgins self insert themselves into the poorly written characters shoes

It's been that way since VII.
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Looks really cool and I like the realistic setting there going for this time
Hope its comfy af
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>>322383297

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHH NEED SFM MODELS FOR THIS CIDNEY NAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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After playing the demo I have the urge to get /fit/.
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>>322383297
Is she really just a c cup as people are claiming?
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>>322383297
The setting and character designs do not interest me. It is that simple.
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>>322403179
Read the sticky
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>>322395080
Every new AAA is the prettiest console game ever made.
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>>322403707
The eating part is the worst.
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If noctis was a bit more muscular he would be perfect.
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>>322403807
Nah, it is not that bad. I do powerlifting, so I eat at a calorie surplus most of the time, except during cutting periods (obviously).
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This game has been in development for 10 years.
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>>322404404
And it's still going to suck.
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>>322403807
>shes not that cute
>just an average asian woman
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>>322404637
>This is what a woman honestly believed
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>>322404362
>putting your ketchup in the fridge
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>>322404362
I have been eating only one meal almost every day for the past 6 years. How do you expect me to eat 4-6 times a day?
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>>322404982
Work your way up to it, dumb-dumb.
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When's the SE event?
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I am now since they've overhauled the UI and combat.

My interest has gone up, as my interest in 7R dwindled.

Looking forward to the next ATR to see if the combat is as good as people claim it will be.
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>>322404982
I eat about 4 meals per day on average, easy. You should go with at least 3 meals per day IMO.
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>>322383297
FF has never interested my and 15 looks like a shabby attempt to copy Bayonetta type combat. Plus I'd rather stick with Lost Odyssey.
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>>322405297

Also there were rumors that you'd be able to change outfits. Hope this is true too.
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>>322404939
Guilty
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>>322404362
people don't squat down to look into their fridge?
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>>322395132
But it's main characters are all waifus.
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>>322405425

Please go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>322385650
Final Fantasy Discovery Channel when?
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>>322404939
It says max +8 degrees celcius on my bottle, which means put it in the fucking fridge.
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>>322383297
The only FF games I played are 7, 10, 10-2 which I dropped 1 hour in, 13 and 13-2

7 was fun, the other games were pretty boring, especially 10
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>>322383718

It will be in 2022.
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>>322405691
Clearly you come from a land where ketchup is made with tomatoes instead of corn syrup.
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>>322395357

Sounds like being retarded is tough, man.
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>>322395819
>I'm about 40 minutes into the demo. Controls are strange as fuck.

They've overhauled the combat so the final product will play nothing like the demo.
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>>322405425
This might be the worst post I've read this week.
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>>322383297
I played the demo, the combat is boring and the 'open world' seems set to be a bunch of empty fields.
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>>322407034

Sure you did.
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>>322390982
>Sakaguchi
>Guy that no longer makes games
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>>322406078
>the final product will play nothing like the demo.
Well doesn't that defeat the purpose of a demo?
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>>322383297
I never really cared about Final Fantasy.
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>>322407270
I sure did.
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>>322407834

Not really. The paid demo was made to give people who've waited 8-9 years a little taste of where they were at the time.

Majority of complains were aimed at the combat and not being able to switch weapons manually, so that's been changed.
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>>322399361
A game with no actual depth to its combat.

If you can't match a fucking Tales game wen it come to combat you dun fucked all over.
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>>322383297
I'm not a homosexual or japanese teenage girl.
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>>322408435

fuck off white girl
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>>322397054
>will end SE

Its going to end contemporary FF.
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>>322405297
>My interest has gone up, as my interest in 7R dwindled.

This.
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>>322383297
Sorry guys, but I can't wait for the porn parody.

Who will they get to play her?
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>>322399863
>Buttonmashy

You can just hold the button.
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>>322397054
>>322408709

Considering how well the demo sold, and how much interest there is in the game, I highly doubt it.
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the combat in the demo was a complete mess of "why the fuck would you do this?" concepts. It was clunky, boring, and frustrating. Plus this shit has been in development since WWII

And I'm someone who was insanely hyped after the Versus XII trailers. Tabata killed the game.
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I was interested in it for years, but it never came out and now I've moved on.
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>>322383297
I will kill someone if she won't appear in my SFM.
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>>322409194

As it's been said a million times now, the combat has been completely overhauled.
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>>322397054
>this game will end SE
I wish, but it won't. Morons will buy this turd based on marketing alone.

FF14 almost killed SE, and I wish it did. Enix would do just fine on their own and continue with Dragon Quest.
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>>322408728

oh shit that new UI
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>>322409194
The demo was mostly for feedback and to give the fans a chance to finally play the game after centuries of waiting. Pretty wise choice considering how jank it was.
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>>322409194
Still no Hime.
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>>322409486

I at least appreciate FF for trying to evolve over time.

DQ is a literal rehash with every title, and only autists with brain damage can enjoy that sort of thing.
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>>322383297
>no playable female character
why
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Because of Tabata
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>>322409232
There is always 3D.
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>>322395640
It's more because they don't want to bump into their prince.
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>>322410070
not the fucking same at all.
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I'm waiting to see this new combat system.

Hype is pretty low at the moment, but if there is manual weapon switching, actual combos, and less QTE shit, then I'll be hype.
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>>322410249
who is the black haired chick?
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>>322410070

gross
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>>322409107
Forgetting all the other shit they have in the pipes that will actually do ok?
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>>322410070
that's a dude
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>>322409991

You mean the guy actually releasing the game while listening to fans?

People need to stop sucking Nomura's dick so much.
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>>322383297
I am, but not as much as I'd like to be. The design of main party is shit, they look like fucking dorks dressed in all black.
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>>322410450

you'll be able to change outfits

thank fuck
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>>322384719
>Not turn based? Not interested

I'm fine with the battle system being the way it is, turn based would have been fine too. As long as it wasn't some horrible abomination like 13's was.
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>>322410249
Its the best we got.
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>>322409991
You don't want any focus on female characters with Nomura as the writer. It won't end well. They suck hard enough as satellite love interests to homosexual men already.
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>>322410669
Meant for >>322409983
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>>322410447
>Implying

Nomura will burn FF7 with AC Cloud the moment he didn't re cast his VA was the moment the remake was doomed.
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>>322410541
Hopefully these will be an option. I liked how the party looked here.
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>>322410669
Nomura's not the writer. He's also not the writer of the KH games either if that's what you were referring to.
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FF13 came out and the franchise died for me

I even loved 12, nobody liked 12
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>>322395491

Makes sense, I move out of the way of faggots too.
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>>322410284
>actual combos

Stop hoping for this. They don't understand what a combo is.
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>>322410843
>nobody liked 12

Well aren't you a special fucking snowflake.

12 was great. The only detractors are the kind of faggots who praise VII and X and go saying "XIII wasn't so bad".
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>>322410843
I liked 12,
Only fags who couldn't program and use the genius gambit system didn't like it.
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>>322411071
Everyone liked 12 when it came out but ever since then it's the one people remember as "the one that played itself" and "the one that had the story I can't remember at all"
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>>322383297
them graphics are killer.
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>>322411345
>>322411317
>>322411071

Dudes, FF12 was inferior to FF13 in EVERYTHING but story and critic score.

Why do you think FF13 is far more well remembered while FF12 collects dust?
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>>322384393
it's ok, you can be gay and hate boybands.

>tfw into older manly bears
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>>322411071
>He likes baby first political intrigue with no actual politics or intrigue.

People like you think the star wars prequels were ok.
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>>322411583
>Why do you think FF13 is far more well remembered
Because it was so fucking bad.
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>>322411345
I remember it more along the lines of:

>the one I sunk +300 hours into
>the one I made a point to completely 100% (only FF I ever went to this length)
>the one with the best dialogue in the whole franchise
>the one with the best asses
>the one with the best thighs
>the one with the race of brown bunny girls
>the one with a book's worth of lore in the bestiary

But hey, whatever you say.
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>>322411710

Is that why it sold more?
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>>322411710
FF13 sales: 6.2 million (got subseries with Lightning as fan favorite in Japan)

FF12 sold 5.1 million (no subseries and kind of just forgotten).
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>>322411827
No, it sold more because it had more colorful waifus.
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>>322411827
>highest grossing video game franchise ever is Call of Duty

Surely it must be because it's the absolute pinnacle of gaming, right?

Nice post time, kurwa.
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>>322412006
I doubt that. A game like that doesn't sell over 1.1 million more than it's predecessor and stay constant to FF10 in sales (especially with it's subseries sales)
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>>322411964
>sales = quality
When are we going to stop doing this?
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>>322412112
It certainly didn't sell on being a good game.
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>>322412040
Not that guy, but CoD and Final Fantasy don't mix.

>Cod sells highly because of annual releases
>Never really changes
>Gets humongous promotion in the states

Final Fantasy is the opposite.
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>>322412040

MW2 was a great game.
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>>322411823
>the one with the best thighs
>that forgettable bitch

Over the line. Only good thing about 12 was female Chubaka and anime Han Solo.
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>>322412281
You mean Fran and Baltier?
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>>322412237
FF doesn't get humongous promotion in Japan?
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Drip-feed marketing put me off.
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>>322412219
Except it was rated highly by both a critic and community level.

>>322412359
Not in the same way as CoD in America. You don't see SE connecting Mountain Dew and Doritos as the "Gamer Fuel" like CoD, right?
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>>322412281
There's no need to be upset. I love them all.

Even Penelo.
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>>322401969
>>322410629

>replying to meme posts
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>>322409879
>DQ is a literal rehash with every title,
Because DQ9 is the exact same as DQ4.

But of course you wouldn't understand the differences between the titles because of how immensely dense you are.
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>>322383297
Because 10 was the last time I really bit in and did a 100% of a FF game. By 13 I didn't even finish the game and haven't played a new FF game since.
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>>322412482
Not MD and Doritos in particular, though I'm pretty sure they do it for some food. Weren't there those canned drinks for XIII?
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>>322383297
'Cause the demo did nothing interesting.
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>>322412629

What's the difference?
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>>322412665
I believe that was preorders stuff.
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>>322412482
>Except it was rated highly by both a critic and community level.
So are plenty of shit games.
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>>322383297
It's been in dev hell for quite some time, they're pushing it out as fast as they can and devs get burned out. They switched directors to that 3rd Birthday Guy and were genuinely surprised people fond combat in Episode demo dull.
I hope for the best, but I don't expect much.
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>>322412629

You DQ fanboys are more delusional than Talesfags.
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>>322412791
By your logic, any game that gets good critic and community ratings is automatically shit then.

That logic is flawed as all hell.
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>>322412869
3rd Birthday, Dissidia, Type-0.

Also, 3rd Birthday is a rather fun game to play, there's a shitload of content too. The biggest issue is that fucking retarded story. Thank fucking god it's not canon and Square has said as much. Technically, it's not even a Parasite Eve game.
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>>322412482
>Doritos and Dew

Let's see, though:

>FF themed bars and restaurants
>FF themed merchandise ranging from miniatures to accessories to fucking jewelry
>FF themed perfumes
>FF themed drinks
>FF artbooks
>FF soundtrack CDs
>FF themed orchestra concerts

But sure, at least they don't advertise chips and soda.
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>>322383297
but I am excited
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>>322413136
That's actually part of the company.

The Mountain Dew and Doritoes is basically shilling out for other companies so all three companies of those products can get a profit.
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>>322412956
That's not my logic at all. My logic is that reviews and such are not reliable for gauging the quality of a game. You're silly.

>>322413136
Oh shit, someone post the ad of Lightning with the handbags.
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>>322413102
The biggest issue is the enemies that grab you and run off with you in their rape van. I was fucking loving that game until that shit happened.
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>>322383297
No girls in the party
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>>322383297
It's downright embarrassing how hyped I am for FFXV
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>>322413281
That's still quite a lot of promotion. I believe that's what the conversation was about, wasn't it?
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>>322413102
Tabata didn't direct Dissidia. Nomura came up with the idea for it and was involved with the gameplay, but he's not involved with FFXV anymore.
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>>322384616

>anime is real
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>>322404197
This guy reminds me of Devil Jin
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>>322413310
>That's not my logic at all. My logic is that reviews and such are not reliable for gauging the quality of a game. You're silly.

But that's the point of the reviews of the first place. To give those who wish to buy or interest to buy a taste of what is the reception between said critics and by said users. It helps to inform the buyer of either being careful to stay away from the game, wait to rent the game or just flat out buy it then and there.

>>322413426
Again, nowhere near as much as CoD.
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>>322413281
The perfumes are not made by SE. Neither are the drinks.

The cast of 13 was used to advertise one clothing line that was definitely not made or affiliated with SE. And now Lightning is a model for Louis Vuitton, who doesn't work for SE.

I guess high fashion and perfumes does sound better than nachos.
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>>322410249
>no muscle definition on the abdomen
Why are standards for women so low?
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>>322413427
He wasn't? I thought he was in charge of all of the PSP games. My bad. He did Crisis Core though, right?
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>>322410629

>13
>horrible abomination

Nigga I'll fucking fight you, in the pile of bullshit casualization crap that is modern videogames 13 was the only combat that has so much depth to it that it needed a several hour tutorial that introduced it bit by bit to players to avoid obliterating you immediately, it was the most natural evolution of ATB and was more rewarding than any dark soul boss, only game that managed to be more challenging was last remnant tbqhwis.

>Inb4 auto battle meme
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>>322413658
>The perfumes are not made by SE. Neither are the drinks.
I'll give you that.

>The cast of 13 was used to advertise one clothing line that was definitely not made or affiliated with SE. And now Lightning is a model for Louis Vuitton, who doesn't work for SE.
But wasn't it the fashion designers that came to Square Enix about that?

>I guess high fashion and perfumes does sound better than nachos.
EXACTLY. It's still better because it's not selling to the lowest common denominator.
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>>322395992
Why is he such a slut?
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