How does a female game developer get popular with male hardcore gamers? What kind of games do male hardcore gamers like?
post tits
Challenging is the only requirement.
>>322378557
Show me your fat cunt.
why does it need to be popular with males?
>>322378557
Make a good video game
>>322378557
Just make the kinds of games that you want to play. That's already a hard enough challenge. Trying to make games that appeal to others is a fool's quest.
Live in San Fransisco and get friendly with the journo clique.
Bask in GOTY awards after pumping out some pretentious shit you can beat in less than 2 hours.
Author gender is irrelevant, just do some fucking market research, I'm not doing your job for you.
>>322378830
>why does it need to be popular with males?
Because they're the ones who buy video games.
Make it fun and challenging, that is literally all you have to do. Could be a game about a sentient piece of gum making it's way though a human body and it would still sell if the gameplay was good. You do need exposure though, so three things.
>>322378830
because they're the ones buying and actually playing games
Good games.
>>322378557
>What kind of games do male hardcore gamers like?
good games.
>>322378986
Depends on the genre.
Although I guess OP did specify hardcore.
>>322378557
Just spam cute girls like the japs do
If the game is not fun to you when it is nothing but wireframes and polygons, and you cannot imagine playing it yourself for hours at a time or looking at it for hours at a time...then it's not going to work for men or women.
Just another exercise in mediocrity or a quick cash-in, otherwise.
>>322378557
>male
Why is that important? Why not just "hardcore gamer"?
>>322378557
>How does a female game developer get popular with male hardcore gamers?
By making good games, shit for brains.
>What kind of games do male hardcore gamers like?
What kind of books do harcore male reader read? Many different kinds, dolt.
cute girls
revealing outfits
violencepost tits
>>322379140
yeah OP could make like bejeweled games and little phone apps
Girls eat that shit up
>>322379030
TAKE MY MONEY
>>322378557
It seems action RPGS as of lately
But if I can make a suggestion, do an ability, non-stats based adventure game like 3D Zeldas, it seems modern developers think you have to do a Beat em up hack and Slash or an RPG, no middle ground
>>322378557
They make neps.
>>322378557
Just fucking do whatever you want
>>322379184
despite what /v/ thinks there's a difference between what guys want and girls want but you're all homos so naturally it's more homogenous
>>322378557
I couldn't care less if the game dev is male, female, attack helicopter, or a tranny. If they make an entertaining game I'll buy and play it.
As for what kind of games i like (i don't consider myself hardcore though) is open world exploration ones. Any game that allows me to explore and discover on my own time and terms is usually a keeper.
>>322379291
You're not wrong. Puzzle games in general are pretty 50/50, if not favouring women in terms of players.
big butts and tits or get out
good gameplay, good aesthetic/artstyle, well-optimized in terms of network and in terms of framerate/lag, good controls, good atmosphere/theme, good interface, good setting, good story, good music
you obviously don't need all of them and your game might not necessarily be applicable to all of them but for any which they are applicable, having all of these qualities would be a good start to becoming popular
>>322379375
> you're all homos
Guess you're right, I don't mind bishounen games
1. Make a really good game that's not a platformer, a rouge-like or some 2deep4u shit.
2. Don't be an SJW and appreciate males have interests too.
3. Don't push political agenda in your game.
4. Sell it for $20 max.
Optional: Have lots of cute girls in it.
You'll be a sensation overnight, honestly. Legitimately an untapped market that any girl could take advantage of.
>>322379375
>but you're all homos so naturally it's more homogenous
Well, aren't you an asshole
SINCE IM A HOMO, I MIGHT AS WELL STICK MY BIG HOMO DICK INTO YOUR BIG HOMO ASSHOLE
>>322378557
99% of people don't care about this shit. Just make a good game. You want a sure way of getting love from the hardcore crowd? Make a game in a dead or dying genre. Fans will even get it if it is flawed.
>>322378557
Games with cute girls doing cute things. Post more.
>>322379489
I know
Girls eat that shit up
The rules are non complicated and very easy to understand in terms of what to do and goals and shit
It's literally all my mother plays
>>322379291
>Cellphone game
>2016
>Being popular and making profit
Might as well buy lottery tickets
>>322378557
Make your game giod or interesting any other reason given other than that is retarded and shitty
Also op fuck you for trying to bait shit to post without context in your faggity ass blogs and such you queer
>>322379030
>Gummans incredible journey through the intestinal rollercoaster of doom
Make me feel like im on a feel good adventure
Neir and Paper Mario is what you should look to
>>322379434
well sometimes when I play a weird game and find out the dev is a tranny it kind of ruins the experience for me.
>>322378557
Well LONDON, what you need to do it
>make a horrible game or don't make one at all
>make a twitter and have hot opinions
>get into an argument with some site nobody cares about, if you could on the liberal side (Polygon etc.)
>go on an anime imageboard (OMG YOU'RE ON ONE!!!!"
>viral yourself
>get called out
>say you're being harassed
>enjoy fame and money coming to you
Works every time :)
>>322379694
It's also the ultimate "pick up, play for five minutes, go do something else" genre.
It's great.
>>322378557
Good games.
Hi I'm a girl too teehee ^_^
>>322379897
i want to talk to a girl on /v/
>>322380027You've probably talked to several without knowing it
What is a "good game" by /v/'s standards?
>>322380109
hello
>>322379618
>rouge-like
Do people really have a trouble knowing the difference between 'Rogue' and 'Rouge'?
Rouge is French for Red
The U comes after the G in ROGUE. The word you're looking for.
>red-like
you simpleton fucks
>>322380158
a game with big tits and bare ass
>>322380158
A game that manages to keep me interested through providing challenging and engaging gameplay. A captivating/entertaining story is a nice addition, but not a necessity.
>>322378557
post that link so I can subscribe
![b79729347def8fde64876d8b7ee3320b[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iRdSFyh.jpg "b79729347def8fde64876d8b7ee3320b[1].png")
Two words: Catgirl Harem
>>322380270I am not a girl, I'm just an animalposter
>>322379623
>on /v/
>not gay
>the year of our lord two thousand and sixteen
What are you even doing on here?
>>322378557
JUST MAKE GAMES THAT ARE FUN, FUCK. WHY DO YOU WOMEN HAVE TO STICK GENDER TO EVERYTHING?
>>322380602
how do you feel about spiders and snakes
>>322379618
Why the dislike for roguelikes? Games like nethack take effort to make. I also wouldn't mind semi-rogue likes where only parts of the world are randomly generated.
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>>322380868
because we stick our gender into them
Wrong place to ask. /v/s tastes are often shitty and not in line with the majority.
>>322380868
>who cares about gender
>asking this question on Muh Matriarchy neo /v/ without any sense of irony
>>322380889
Anything that strikes me as aesthetically pleasing is good.
>>322378557
>female game developer
if you unironically felt the need to make this arbitrary distinction you are a massive fucking faggot already, there's no going back for you.
Tits or gtfo.
My sister made an RPG about a girl that gets raped by her dad and he gets kidnapped by an evil sorcerer and she has to overcome her feelings of betrayal to save him. It ends with her falling in love with her dad and marrying him.She got molested as a child by our dad.
>>322378917
This
Constantly say some dumb shit on Twitter for extra points and you'll see how /v/ will have daily threads about you
Try it out, it just works
>>322378557
make a game with a male protagonist.
change his model to female at the very end right before it's complete.
Be Japanese
>>322381095
what the fuck are you on about m8?
>>322381130
Browse /v/ for an hour and it'll be clear that dev gender matters here.
>>322381132
I would play her game.
A. make good games
B. don't pander to casuals
C. don't be an SJW
D. don't fuck anyone on the dev team (otherwise, everyone will just accuse you of only being there because you're fucking {dude} and ignore your actual contribution to the team)
E. don't go out of the way to constantly remind everyone you have ovaries, just be a person who makes games, your tits are irrelevant
>>322381110
what a fucking non answer
it's like getting asked at a restaurant how you'd like your steak and answering, "i enjoy foods that taste good in my mouth."
fucking kill yourself, shitposter-chan
>>322381453
Gender matters in threads where people bring it up. It's a popular shitposting topic because people fall for it every time, including me.
>>322381132
wtf. This makes me angry.
>>322381110
toucans are nice looking birds
>>322378903
Underrated
>>322381132
where can we play it?
>>322381570
Post more snakes and spiders then, you colossalnice guy.
>>322381706
That they are!
>tfw not an SJW or ugly and want to make games but too dumb to learn how to make game
I can barely computer, gosh.
>>322381570
Well, if people started serving you everything but food but still marketed as food, you'd say that too.
>>322381132
Is this what they call a coping mechanism?
>>322381132
Post link and pics of sister
>>322381434
You're posting on a board where dev gender is relevant and often discussed. If you think gender politics in video games is tiresome this is not the place for you.
>>322381609
And, as you seem to admit, the threads come up often and hit post limit more consistently than most threads about actual fucking video games. The irony of /v/ complaining about "inserting gender" into topics is mind blowing.
>>322381526
>>B. don't pander to casuals
This is terrible advice for those trying to get their foot in the door.
>>C. don't be an SJW
Or just shoot for that niche if you want to. Indivisible funded damn near $2M and the people responsible for shit like Steven Universe are swimming in it.
>>322378557
Stop trying to actively target a group. If you're an indie dev, make what you what. If people don't like it, your idea may be flawed in some capacity. Seek criticism.
>>322381909
>The irony of /v/ complaining about "inserting gender" into topics is mind blowing
/v/ is not a monolith, anon. Anyone can post here. I have no trouble believing that people who stick to a certain kind of threadlike the ones discussing video gamesdon't consider gender a relevant factor at all in the /v/ they see.
>>322380497
>not dog girls
>>322381909
Not talking about dev gender, I'm talking about character gender. what OP was talking about. On /v/ you rarely hear anyone badmouthing a character because of their gender. That is what I meant when devs won't shut the fuck up character's sex because it literary doesn't matter.
Would a Dark Souls like game with lots of cute girls be a bad idea?
>>322380158
most recently,Shantae
>>322381132
I WANT TO PLAY THIS
>>322382190
>Not talking about dev gender, I'm talking about character gender. what OP was talking about.
>"How does a female game developer get popular with male hardcore gamers?"
>>322381132How is she Anon?I hope she's ok
>>322378557
>objectified, naked, unrealistically(no more than 55 kg!)pretty woman
>violence
>rape
>no minorities
>main hero is hetero white male 25-30 yo
>guns
>artificial difficulty
CHIYA BEST GIRL
Literally take the best of a genre's games in the 90s (when you actually needed substance for success) improve the good bits, remove the bad bits from that era, give it a fresh coat of paint and maybe throw in a new mechanic that doesn't fuck everything up.
You have a proper game.
How hard is devs?
make a good game
>>322382550
There's no more games left
>>322381132
Spoiler is redundant.
>>322382064
OP specifically asked what male hardcore gamers like. Pretty sure male hardcore gamers don't like SJW-pandering casual games.
>>322378557
Do like they do in fantasy and don't reveal that you're a grill, ie. make your first name an initial and shit. Or just a handle. There's a reason they have to do it in fantasy and if you browse /v/ at all you'll find out they're the same.
We're deeply distrustful of women after the way they treated us in grade school.
>>322382812
sad but true
>>322379030
Holy shit anon, I'd pay to see this happen.
>>322382970
you mean, "I'd buy this if it were real!" right?Right?
>>322381132
i have to say that is a good idea for a game.
make good characters
>>322382916
Hey (hey)
I'm your life
I'm the one who takes you there
Hey
I'm your life
I'm the one who cares
They
They betray
I'm your only true friend now
They
They'll betray
I'm forever there
>>322380497
coconut chapter soon™
Does it matter to male gamers if the main character is female? Is that a turn off?
>>322383354
>>322378557
Females have the advantage of making cute girls, so take advantage of it.
>>322383473
why would it be
>>322382483
>unrealistic
>55 kg
Lel. If a woman is over 55 kg she's almost automatically fat. Unless she's really tall or muscular.
>>322383354
>>322383473
I'm not sure if I can answer, but the less of a big deal you make about that, the less it'll annoy some of the people here.
If it seems forced, there will be complaints. If it seems natural, it's fine.
>>322381792
Here is your london
Take a course or something
>>322378864
End the thread here god damnit.
>>322378864
Tell that to the Undertale devs.
>>322383473
Honestly? Nah.
If your character's tied to enjoyable gameplay, they'll be fondly remembered.
>>322382812
This is honestly good advice.
>>322378864
but what constitutes a good game?
>>322383473
If they don't give tumblr vibes then no. Look how crazy this site goes for waifus and cute girls.
>>322383473
>yellow bottle
delete this
>>322378557
Make a game and put it out for the world to see, most people don't know who's making the game they play but if they like it they buy it. Don't try to be goody goody like you're a girl and savage men are going to turn down your video game.Unless it's shit which I doubt it won't be.
>>322383316
this nigger knows
>>322383473
why would i be turned off by a woman? are you implying i'm some kind of faggot
>>322383940
I'll put it this way, if your platformer is less innovative and challenging than Banjo Kazooie, then don't bother.
>>322384038
it's orange juice, i swear
Not sure I should be posting in this thread, but I think this: >>322378903 >>322379030 >>322379171 and even >>322379618 and >>322379662 is actually good solid advice for any game dev generally.
Avoid oversaturated genres, don't make anything seem forced or push an agenda, and it'll most likely be fine.
The advice in >>322382812 to go with a pen-name is perhaps a little too cautious and feels like a step back for the industry. Don't do that. It'd be a huge pity if anyone ever felt they had to hide their identity to make games. That's bullshit. You don't. Do be aware, however, that if - conversely - you go out of your way to call any special attention to your gender, you will in the process call unwanted attention to it (from the GG crowd, etc). If you just happen to be female, and developing games, and that isn't a big deal and you don't call any particular attention to it, it'd probably be absolutely fine. If however you bring up your gender every time anyone interviews you, it'll piss people off.
>>322385323
a pen name is fine because it lets someone create what they want without having to worry about face or reputation which is good for someone that isn't interested in fame and just likes creating things
>>322385570
This is true. Pen names are pretty normal in smut literature - and some of the results are pretty great.Look up Hunter Fox on Amazon
>>322385570
Thisand it lets you create porn stuff with impunity and you can even use more than one pen name. One for vanilla stuff the other for fetishes
>>322385921
it's not just that, it's convenient being able to abandon something and not feel obligated to it because it's popular
just ironic saying things about pen names on an anonymous website which is much of the same principle
>>322385323
>The advice in >>322382812 to go with a pen-name is perhaps a little too cautious and feels like a step back for the industry. Don't do that. It'd be a huge pity if anyone ever felt they had to hide their identity to make games. That's bullshit.
How she wants to balance profit with ideology is up to her. My advice is pure profit and she can calibrate it with her views as she wishes. It's just a pure fact that men in general (not even just /r9k/ and g8rs) don't trust women as much as they trust men to write fantasy or make video games. It's just a fact.
I expected this thread to be awful, but it was actually okay.
Is this the magic of Chiya, or is this the magic of being kind-of vague about gender, but not really, and just asking nicely.
>>322387432
Chiya.
>>322378557
Games about raising cute lolis and dressing them up in cute outfits
![[Vivid-Taku] Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka - 12 [BE6EB547].mkv_snapshot_14.07_[2014.07.22_08.43.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T1ACdi5.jpg "[Vivid-Taku] Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka - 12 [BE6EB547].mkv_snapshot_14.07_[2014.07.22_08.43.28].jpg")
>>322387432
Asking nicely, showing real interest and >>322387626
