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>Meanwhile digital content and services in Europe move back under our US company, Valve Corp., just as they were before the Luxembourg office opened in July 2012.
Valve is bringing EU sales back into the US company so that they can try and claim in court that they aren't held by EU laws since the sales are being made in the US.
Why do people support this piece of shit company?
>>322371713
who gives a shit about europe?
>Having favoritism over any company
This is why console war shit exist. Every company tries to nickel & dime their customers, in one way or another. You don't use Steam because Valve made it. You use it for the deals and convenience. If you buy ANYTHING just because 'X' company made it so you can support them you're a mouth breathing retard.
>>322371939
Thanks to them you have refunds.
They just did this because they were about to force Steam to allow second-hand sales.
>>322371713
>so that they can try and claim in court that they aren't held by EU laws since the sales are being made in the US.
it doesn't work like that you retarded mouth-breather
>>322371713
They'll get taken to the court for tax evasion if they try that, the EU will heavily fine them (Billions) and they'll be forced to open back up an EU HQ or go Bankrupt.
Fuck off to /biz/ so they can laugh at you.
>>322371713
>We will continue to operate with respect to relevant European laws, such as local data and consumer protection, and we'll continue to provide the same services we have for years.
Fuck off nigger.
>>322372012
>tfw the elevator is broke in ur 12 story building and ur a mouth breather after you took the stairs down
>>322372669
>Thanks to them you have refunds.
yeah thanks for ruining sale I'm not a retarded who buys stupid shit
>>322372669
>Thanks to them you have refunds.
and ruined sales in the process
>>322373320
>/biz/
>>322373807
>>322373915
>WOW WHY DID YOU GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO ASK MY MONEY BACK
No wonder they call you americucks and that your society spawned SJWs.
>>322373915
So what, buying CD Keys has always been cheaper than Steam sales.
>>322371713
>Valve is bringing EU sales back into the US company so that they can try and claim in court that they aren't held by EU laws since the sales are being made in the US.
LAW DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, FUCK
>>322371713
Fuck off GOG shill. Nobody is gonna use your crappy website that bans games they don't like.
>Monster Monpiece already confirmed Steam only because GOG doesn't allow the content of the game for being "pedophilic"
>>322371939
I do, you fat faggot
>>322372669
I have literally never wanted to refund anything I have bought from steam because I dont retardedly impulse buy shit that might be broken or shitty.
>>322374580
>WOW WHY ARE THEY GIVING US RIGHTS
Absolutely cancerous, if you wanted so little rights, might as well get an Xbone.
its always the same shit. american companies need to expand badly enough to go overseas but not quite badly enough to follow overseas laws. see: amazon
fuck off
>Hey, let's punish American based industries for providing services in our country!
>Why are they skirting our laws?
I mean, come on.
That's not why they're doing it. The U.S. government is, at some point, going to start finding ways to harm U.S. companies that shield their revenue from U.S. taxes. They're just getting out in front of it, Microsoft and a few other companies are doing the same thing.
>>322374101
good luck when it turns out those cdkeys you got from g2a turn out being bootleg copies and get removed from your account
>>322374838
To look at it another way, european countries sometimes forget that they have almost no leverage over vast american behemoth businesses so we go through this little charade once in a while, until they get back in line.
>>322375252
Hope they don't delete my 3 year old Borderlands 2 cd key.
>EU closes the Luxembourg VAT loophole
>Valve moves out of Luxembourg ASAP
they only ever set up shop in the EU to dodge taxes.
Why would you buy from a company like this?
kek at you peecee cucks. stay cucked forever.
>>322375424
not all of them are stolen keys. it's always a gamble with those fucking keyshops. your memelands are probably safe, though
>>322373915
Let's be honest here, steam sales have been shit for a while.
Partially because you already bought most of what you want, partially because much of the rest of what you want would never have a good sale, but mostly because Steam is flooded with mediocre titles that would never have been made/exposed in the past.
>>322375516
everybody dodges taxes whenever they can. good riddance, most of them are not needed anyway and serve as a way to steal money from you, income tax especially
>>322375252
here are perfetly legal keystores that are still cheaper than Steam.
Even boxed copies from Amazon are usually the same as Steam's sale prices
>>322375516
You shouldn't buy from any company that uses binding arbitration clauses.
>>322375786
This.
A proper society would have no taxes.
Though Valve deserves no kudos since they've been trying to defy the hand of the market by staying private.
There is no such thing as Europe and hasn't been since 1945.
>>322375614
>disinfo meme spewing
How does it feel to be
>that kid who told some bullshit story about getting Mew in pokemon Blue
again?
I do not care about Europe in the slightest.
>>322375979
>A proper society would have no taxes.
you need some taxes to ensure that the state works. I've read somewhere that most of europe would do well with only 3 taxes total
>>322375979
>A proper society would have no taxes.
underage B&
Who the fuck cares about Europe?
>>322376287
Go back to DU or Kos.
Will Valve ever float on the NYSE?
>>322376080
>implying shit like that didn't happen already
the most severe case was with ubisoft banning uplay keys. here's my mew, faggot
>>322376342
Syrians apparently.
>all these buttblasted, corporate dick sucking yanks
>>322372669
I never needed to refund a game because I'm not retarded and actually do research (watching let's plays and reading both positive and negative steam reviews) before I buy a game to determine whether I'll enjoy it or not and to see if the game runs well. As a result I have never bought a game that I did not enjoy on steam.
>>322376640
This. Europe is for the refugee that can't afford a plane ticket to TLOTFATHOTB. (The Land Of The Free And The Home Of The Brave)
>>322373972
I'd rather buy a game at 5 bucks and end up not liking it than only having 2 hours and 2 weeks to figuring out that I don't like something.
>>322376436
>uplay
here's your (you)
You dont buy any games on Steam, you just rent the license. You dont own them and under american laws they can shut down the server and go waste all the money in hookers and there is literally nothing you can do.
>>322372669
Actually you should thank EA. They were the first to do unconditional refunds.
EU has nothing to do with the 7day/24hour refund of Origin or the 14day/2hour refund of Steam.
>>322377241
except nearly all of them will still run without steam installed
>>322377241
Some of you are okay. Don't go to Steam tomorrow.
>>322377241
Hookers aren't legal in the US.
>>322377241
this. pc is literally cuck race.
>>322377131
got any actual arguments?
>>322371939
>>322371713
>who gives a shit about europe?
Fucking this, also, werent videogames banned under sharia law?
>>322377428
But none of them can be installed from a backup if Steam is down and I doubt you're going to have every single Steam game you're renting currently installed.
>All these people unironically defending a shitty intrusive DRM of a shitty company that hasnt made a good game since Half-Life 1
What happened, /v/? It´s like the people that used to post here are gone and got replaced by retards from other websites.
>>322377839
you know, anon, we actually passed the 1TB landmark in hard drive technology some time ago. 2-3TB is more than enough to archive your library even if you have hundreads of games
>>322375013
>they should be allowed to break the local laws because they're American
>>322377428
peecee disc copies are literally just a steaminstaller.exe you fucking cuck.
>>322373915
>>322373807
How did that ruin the sales?Yes, they are shit nowadays
>>322378136
When they provide a service that is so unparalleled, and your laws prohibit them from doing so, then your laws are what needs to change.
>>322378050
>frogposter
>thinly veiled MUH REDDIT shitpost
kill yourself
>>322378050
mostly reddit. they LOVE steam and LOVE being cucked.
>>322378220
who still buys disc copies of games?
>>322378220
people who buy physical games for pc know what they are buying or are just retarded for thinking wolfenstien TNO is going to fit on one disc
>>322378050
Yeah, it's almost as if people grew up and found something more productive to do with their lives, and here we still are, pissing into the same goblet as always, complaining about the same old tired shit.
>>322378220
You can take a game installed through steam and patch a dll to make it work without steam. Very quick and simple.
You can then burn that directory to a disc or whatever.
It's horseshit that you have to do that, but it IS an option.
>>322378345
non cucks? you peecee cucks wouldnt understand.
>>322378303
They had to take flash sales/community vote sales away in favor of refunds so people don't refund to get the same game for cheaper.
>>322378374
...the console version fits on one disc, though.
>>322371939
This. Fuck those trash, they're lucky they even get to use the service the way they behave towards everyone else.
>>322378409
just pirate it. thats all you do anyway. bunch of cucks.
>>322378518
you can thank bethesda for that
>>322373972
That shit started in Asia from female entitlement and went through backwash europe before infecting us Americocks
>>322378612
That's what they'll be required to do to play any of their games when Steam dies out.
>>322378304
>company tries to sell poison milk to you for cheap
>turns out it's illegal
>get mad
Oh wait
>Genetically-engineered bovine growth hormone (rBGH) in milk increases cancer risks. American dairy farmers inject rBGH to dairy cows to increase milk production. European nations and Canada have banned rBGH to protect citizens from IGF-1 hazards.
>>322378535
>Fuck those trash, they're lucky they even get to use the service the way they behave towards everyone else.
no, abdul, fuck off back to your own country
>>322378495
I guess not. I didn't even bother to add a disc drive when I built my pc.
>>322378612
That's all the pirated version is though. It's likely easier/faster for you to patch your existing install, or download your games from Valve's servers and then patch them.
>>322373807
>>322373915
>>322374580
>>322376801
All of this. Since I'm not retarded I don't need the gubmint to hold my hand. I don't waste my money and actually pay attention to information about games.
Theres no excuse for being an uninformed consumer unless you are literally retarded. We live in the age of information, its all at your fingertips. Kids are so fucking lazy though and don't know how to discern fact from fiction.
>>322378220
>binding your physical copies to a third-party program and account
Barely a step up from that limited install DRM, and that at least was widely condemned. Steam popularised this shit and is even praised for it
>>322378684
nah they will make a petition. HAHAHA! Good luck peecee cucks.
>>322378740
Canada has changed its mind and admitted that they were wrong.
As noted earlier, Europe often lags intellectually and culturally, so we have to go through this song and dance once in a while.
>>322375864
Every single large company tries to shirk off taxes and lobby heavily to so
>Most lawsuits come from poor butthurt Europeans
>Valve tired of said 3rd world
boo hoo
>>322378409
Except a lot of games will show an error like pic related if you try to run them from a backup without steam.
Literally half the PC DVDs on my shelf will be worthless the day Steam is shut off. How can anyone defend this?
>>322378926
>Canada has changed its mind and admitted that they were wrong.
Oh great, now I have to actually check milk before I buy it to make sure it literally doesn't give me cancer.
Thanks guys.
>>322379298
>Literally half the PC DVDs on my shelf will be worthless the day Steam is shut off.
offline mode exists
>>322379298
>the day steam is shut off
>>322379298
I don't think steam will ever shut down. They've become too big like MS or Apple.
>>322379298
>the day Steam is shut off
so long after sony and nintendo go bankrupt, aka never
>>322379482
How do I get into offline mode after Steam has been shut down?
>Why should I pirate? I buy games on Steam because if it ever goes offline, I can use a replacement program to run the game
Neo-/v/ everyone
>>322379784
If you can't connect to steam servers it recommends offline mode or trying to log in again.
>>322379707
>>322379747
>>322379781
>Not remembering the day Valve shut off WON
/v/alvedrones confirmed 12 years old
>>322378501
Many of the games are at their lowest price during this sale though. The ones that were cheaper at other sales were marginally cheaper.
>>322379910
For steam to be shut down forever valve would need to be bankrupt or get a really stupid CEO.
>>322379889
>Build new PC in 2020
>Install Windows 11
>Try to install Half Life 2 from disc
>Can't because no Steam servers to authenticate with
What now?
>>322379910
>not remembering that the point of shutting down WON was to centralize everything to steam in order to offer a better service
>>322380163
Valve was proftiable 10 years ago. WON was the service that kept their most important product alive. They still shut it down.
Now try to come up with an actual argument.
>>322380367
Only a tiny fraction of WON games were ever moved to Steam.
Basically all WON games are dead except Valve's own
>>322380190
Download the HD remaster from PSN or use a crack.
>>322380395
Their most important product was Half-Life, and OH LOOK, Half-Life works perfectly on Steam.
>>322380395
>Valve can sustain itself from the few games that has microtransactions
>Somehow thinks a "important product" being shut down will kill off Valve.
kek
>there are people who unironically oppose Steam Refunds so they could have Daily and Flash Sales and skinner box shit like votes and retarded clicker games
I fucking hate you americucks. Sales might be less fun but they are finally pro-consumer now.
>>322379298
>patch a dll
Did you not even read the posts?
>>322380514
how the fuck does that make his statement irrelevant?
>>322380395
>release game
>money flow
People in this board act like they know everything about everything, how long have pcfats been saying that sony would go bankrupt? sonnygers saying m$ would go bankrupt also.
>>322380190
I guess you can't play half life 2? I'm sure there would be a cracked version or someone would have at least put out a fix to be able to play the game if steam takes a shit. I'd be pissed too.
>>322380664
>games are more expensive
>pro-consumer
>>322380572
So when Steam gets replaced with SteamPlus you can only play Valve games but all other games in your library are no longer available?
What a great service.
>>322380514
>Basically all WON games are dead except Valve's own
So thank you valve I guess? I don't know why you're arguing against steam when centralizing is what saved valve's games in the first place.
>>322371713
>Why do people support this piece of shit company?
because they strong arm every dev who wants to put their game on PC and makes false promises to devs who are just starting, than they rape the prices by having outrageous steam sales (which isn't bad for the consumer, but its terrible for the devs). all you had to do was tell valve to fuck off with DRM when HL2 released and you failed to do it.
>>322374290
>muh hatred
>muh hentai pedo games
Fuck off goober, go back to your shit chan
>>322380792
I see no reason that, given technology has improved exponentially in the past decade, all games that work on Steam won't work on any future nu-Steams.
>>322380784
Instead of being -X% and going to -Y% when in a flash/daily, they're now -Y% for the whole duration of the sale
>>322371713
>Europoors complaining about their ENTITLEMENTS
Just become a fucking kebab territory already so we can bomb the shit out of you.
WE ARE GONNA MAKE EUROPE GREAT...for once.
>>322380784
>price is the only factor
>it gives me cancer but it's cheaper
Why are euros so entitled?
You think they'd have learned their lesson from the Greeks.
>>322380993
>implying
>>322381015
Don't buy shit games if you're just going to refund them. The refund option is pointless to anyone that actually makes wise decisions with their money.
>>322380949
>goober
fuck off back to your hug box shit piece.
>>322381094
The welfare state creates an entitlement problem.
>>322380784
Outside from Ubisoft shit not being discounted heavily (which is not surprising and Ubi games are crap so who gives a fuck) I have not noticed a major increase between Daily deals and current sale deals.
Daily sales were more of a psychological thing.
>>322380976
Supporting old games costs money but doesn't generate profit because the sale happened years ago.
Someday Valve will want to get rid of all the old shit you have in your library.
They will just like they did with WON, which they didn't want to support even though they were earning gorillions from Counter Strike.
>>322380949
The day 8ch saved gaming. I'm proud of them. They've done more for freedom in a year than 4chan has in a decade
>>322380784
>Baited to spent money on games you barely had any interest in while valve sit on its fat ass rake the money in.
>pro-consumer
If you weren't interested in a game enough to spend money in the first place, you should do it even if the price was cut. You fucking mongs fall for the simplest schemes, no wonder the rest of the world think you guys are fucking idiots.
>>322375296
Must be why the EU is constantly fining corporations like Microsoft and Apple for some of the shit they try to pull of but aren't allowed to in Europe.
>>322381375
you shouldn't* do it even if the price was cut.
>>322373972
>Eurocücks unironically saying their continent is not divided between BBC loving white beta faggots and slavs
Buying from slavs was literally cheaper. All the shit added so Europoor cunts did not shit their pants only ruined sales for everyone.
Before you literal shitskins ruined everything I could buy $30 games as cheap as $10 or keys or whatever. Tf2 economy was booming, and there was a reason to play valve F2P crap. It was beautiful.
Now regional pricing, and regional lock for gifts ruined everything. Just because one Autistic Germanshit could refund a game he bought out of mere retardation.
Eat shit, you are not welcome in America. Get beheaded by Muhammad.
>>322380806
>Valve makes singleplayer games dependent on online service
>Has history of shutting down online service despite being poriftable
>Thank you Valve
>>322381307
>Someday Valve will want to get rid of all the old shit you have in your library.
>people actually believe this
You need to loosen your tin foil hat.
>Who gives a fuck about Europe
Valve does. Because it's one of their biggest markets and if they don't follow European law they cannot operate in Europe.
You have to remember as well, 1 sale in somewhere like the UK = 2 sales in America thanks to the dollar being worth almost nothing and prices being higher than Australia in most of Europe.
>>322381307
>Supporting old games costs money but doesn't generate profit because the sale happened years ago.
>Someday Valve will want to get rid of all the old shit you have in your library.
are you retarded? valve doesn't have to do shit to make their old games work, fans will do it for free. valve would only have to put the fix on their servers, which is even simpler if the game supports workshop
>>322381307
I literally bought a game (bully) that is by law forbidden in my country by using a vpn and valve has done nothing against it. Are you sure about valve removing steam games?
>>322373915
>he was successfully psychologically manipulated
>he wants to be again
>he'll even give up a basic consumer right to do so
I seriously hope this thread is yuropoors falseflagging
>>322381643
>>people actually believe this
>You need to loosen your tin foil hat.
He literally gave an example of how they did this already. Are you retarded?
>>322377063
2 hours and 2 weeks is more than enough to see if:
>game is properly optimized and has no graphical hiccups
>gameplay is enjoyable (even if the game is slow ass RPG)
>there are no major flaws in shit like netcode
Want risky cheaper games? Fuck off to grey markets like G2A and have fun being scammed by russkie kid.
>>322381219
>>322381321
Shouldn't you guys be looking for more "nice" feminists to throw money at?
Buy enough e-cred and maybe you'll stop being bullied online by hambeasts and trannies.
>>322381959
Don't forget they are also releasing patches removing content from old games as well :^)
Who can forget GTA: SA having songs stripped from it.
>>322381934
wtf, where do you live and why is it banned
>>322381959
He gave an example of how valve saved their games by centralizing them on to steam.
>>322382043
Keep oppressing freedom anon. That's never gonna come back and bite you in the ass...
Of all the businesses moving out of the EU to avoid its draconian laws and endless bureaucracy, it's Valve that pisses you off?
Instead of being pissed off at all the lost jobs and wealth because of the shitty EU, you're crying about video games and "muh consumer rights".
The EU is now so poor thanks to its own soviet-style incompetence, it is begging China to buy its infrastructure, and is willing to give China a Market Economy Status at the WTO , meaning no more barriers for cheap, state-subsidized steel and ceramics to flood the EU market and drive out of business any last remaining industry. The EU is literally going to drive our economies to the ground as a "reward" for China buying our infrastructure. Even going against the wishes of the US to make that "miracle" happen.
>>322371713
So, can I ask for cheap prices in dollar now instead euros? How it was before.
>>322382205
He's probably a BR
>>322375013
>Man it's good to be an American company, I can openly bribe the government to make laws that are convenient to me
>What the fuck do you mean that in Europe there are laws that protect costumers from getting completely shat over? This is unacceptable
>>322382598
EA demanded Valve "fix" its currency ratios before they put any games on Steam.
Later it became part of Valve's agreement with other companies that joined, and companies that had already joined but renewed the terms.
Even when EA pulled their games out of Steam, it was too late to change it back.
>>322382394
>ellipsis
Keep that up and I'll bite you in the ass, fag
>>322382871
I bet you would love to eat my ass out, you fag...
>>322382759
>muh European gibsmedat
>surprised when a company leaves
Have fun with a dying industry
>>322382985
>>322383034
Thank you America, for letting India and China's Industry thrive by sacrificing your own!
>all these drones defending steam
good goyim
>>322383579
>all these people bating against steam to catch people who want to get in a decent discussion with ,you know, arguments and shit
>>322383579
>Occupy Wall Street a few years ago
>All but forgotten
Now we only have consumerism addicted retards. The short attention span of this generation worries me.
>>322381321
>They've done more for freedom in a year than 4chan has in a decade
Its sad because some people actually believe that's true, I mean, making Wu, Zoe and Anita untochable by harassing them and any other developer that was unlucky enough to be a woman wasnt a very good course of action for the goober crusade
>>322383519
>>322383034
They don't understand how to have personal accountability. As much as they want to call Americans retarded at least we don't have failsafes to protect every fucking retard that exists. It's not the government's job to make sure you get a refund when you spend your money that mummy gives you on a shitty early access survival game.
Also serious question here I have a couple British friends on steam and they just buy EA shit after EA shit then complain that they can't buy a good game because they spent all their money on Bus fare and games already. Why do brits buy such shitty games? I have like 8 of them and that's all they buy.
If you are a European with steam level under 20, please just get the fuck out of this thread.
I'm tired of poorfags trying to dictate to the wealthiest country in the world how we should buy and sell OUR games.
>>322383919
If you even think occupy wall Street was good... Shit was full of retards and women complaining about systemic oppression practically on day one.
>>322383957
Clearly they are not on steam if all they buy is EA games.
>>322384120
Could be, but the people didn't learn shit from it either apparently.
>>322371939
Noone important. Europe has been sacrificed so that PC culture may live. They've doomed themselves.
>>322373318
This is one step closer to removing the EU store.
EU will be supported but you will be "importing". Basically no euro prices everything has to be USD
>>322382495
Really? Shit, I don't live in the EU, I'm sorry for you, anon.
>>322384419
I'd be fine with that, it would be cheaper
>>322381460
Meaningless "please give us money so we can look strong to our constituents" stuff, yeah.
>>322373807
You're 12 years old. You couldn't buy anything online if you wanted to.
>>322384638
So meaningless most of these massive corporations have changed the way they operate worldwide because of the EU.
>>322383919
>government mandates that banks must give loans to poor people so they can have homes
>poor people default on loans
>IMPRISON THE FAT CAT BANKERS
>BREAK UP THE BANKS
Occupy Wall Street, ladies and gentlemen.
>>322384750
The only thing corporations have changed because of the EU is that they've relocated their headquarters there to take advantage of the egregious, gaping tax loopholes that European perma-poverty "economics" permits.
I DON'T EVEN LIKE VIDEO GAMES
Why are you niggers implying you cant just hack the steam/game binaries to get them to run without steam?
>>322383919
>Every generation before was better than my generation!
>Expect me, i'm the only one in this generation that isn't a complete twat!
>>322386024
What's the point in buying it on the service anyway then? If you're gonna go out of your way to do with away with steam's bullshit, might as well just either pirate or buy elsewhere to begin with.
In the far future Europe will connect to America creating Eurica
Enjoy the crossbreeding.
>>322373584
that's called panting anon
>>322381514
I'm sorry, but you are white, you don't get to decide who's welcome or not.
