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Is there one thing it did better than Smash?
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Is there one thing it did better than Smash?
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Yes; taking a huge shit, and then rolling in it.
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Be shit
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selling less
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DLC characters weren't at jewish prices.
Was crap though.
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Having less motherfucking Fag Emblem characters.
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Feature useless characters
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Just about every stage switching between two series was neat. Other than that, can't think of anything.
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From what I remember from the demo
Hitting people with strong attack felt satisfying as fuck
That's all
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I liked the scope of characters more. It wasn't just seventeen Mario characters, seventeen Fire Emblem characters, and the robot from Metroid.
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>>322349331
No Sakurai Bias
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Being a lazy and slightly embarrassing advertisement for better games than be an actual title in itself
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Digital inputs. More attacks was also nice.
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>Nintendo got Tekken rep
>Nintendo got Solid Snake
>Nintendo got Ryu
>Nintendo got FUCKING Cloud

Sony can't hold onto it's own characters.
Literally Jak and Cooper are the only two people I'd play/know well there.
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>>322349742
No no no, he's talking about PS All Stars, not Smash Bros.
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>>322349331
I can play with neptune?
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>>322349331
Better combat system that required you to learn the actual character to Got Gus at kill confirms.

It was just bad at translating this which made it inaccessible to new players.

Its not really comparable to smash if you talk about fighting mechanics, it's more like tekken tech wide with the b.a.c.k.s. system and Dissidia with how you build damage then deal the death blow.
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>>322349331
i wish this thing was a Dissidia clone instead of a smash clone, since most PS characters were created for a 3D enviroment, not a 2D one.

Also you cant have a playstation "ALL STARS" without Lara Croft, the entire cast of FFVII ,Snake and Crash Bandicoot
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>>322349795
Sony doesn't own any of those characters.
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>>322349807

Yes because of all those Mother titles coming soon, amirite?

Or R.O.B that's totally relevant today

Or whatever the fuck the Ice climbers are from.

2/10 m8, apply yourself for the new year.
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>>322350141
Sony did try to get their characters but you forget Activision and Square didn't like Ps3 Sony. If Sony were to want to do another one today I'm sure they would get what they want.
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Cross Buy
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>>322349331

>Literally Who: The Video Game
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>>322349795
tekken rep?
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>>322350661
Oh you must not play videogames.
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>>322349331
>Nintendo got Cloud in smash
>This game didn't
It made me feel embarrassed for a company
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>>322350663
Heihachi is a mii costume
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>>322349515
This is the only thing I can think of as well

>>322349795
This one got Heihachi.

>>322350224
I think he was referring to the fact that Sony couldn't get any big third party character and got left with scraps. More insulting when Ryu, Cloud and Snake are more linked to the PS brand than Nintendo brand.
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>>322350804
Not the same person but seriously they're literal WHOS all of them. Kratos and Drake are known, but the rest are C tier characters.
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>>322350854
>Ryu, Cloud and Snake are more linked to the PS brand than Nintendo brand
how so?
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>>322349480
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>>322349331
Being able to turn off stage hazards.
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>>322350854
Why is it insulting? Anyone would be proud to have these characters in their game.
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Stages.

Roster diversity.
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>>322350984
Well, by being playable on sony consoles as opposed to nintendo or microsoft consoles, the last two remaining competitors. Sony kinda carries the torch of "japanese games that arent nintendo". It has a lot more third party exclusives and anything japanese thats not nintendo is probably gonna be played on a sony console. also nintendo has always been a bit... picky about their brand and what its asscosiated with, so for them to take in all these third party very iconic characters into smash when even sony didnt with their game is pretty strange
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>>322351350
>A game with pac man, wii fit trainer, link, duck hunt, mario, and bayonetta doesn't have roster diversity
Sure there are a lot of fire emblem characters but the roster is so large that really doesn't negatively impact the diverse playstyles of the characters. King K Rool wouldn't have made the roster more diverse than it is senpai
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>>322350661
Seriously, were is spyro, croc and crash?
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>>322351739
I'm not saying Smash isn't diverse, I'm saying PSASBR is due to its small roster. They only messed up by adding two coles instead of one. Seriously, what the fuck?
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>>322349795
It's funny that PS All Stars didn't even cross my mind when Cloud was announced for Smash. If the game was relevant at all, I'd say "Wow, I'm surprised he's in this and not PS All Stars" but I literally forgot it even existed.
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I remember seeing some comic about people being mad neptune was op in the game. Is she even in it?
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>>322354459
No, she's not that popular
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>>322354595
I didn't think so, I was just hoping. What's that new/semi new anime fighter? I remember seeing it's mostly just anime girls kicking the shit out of each other
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The ability to turn off stage hazards.

I still don't understand why Smash still doesn't allow this.
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>>322354721
Smash does, but only by turning the stage to a final destination clone
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>>322354721
It sorta does as the other dude that replied mentioned.

The biggest problem I think is that the stage hazards are too obscure. Like, you have to have played Game and Wario to understand why a random background event that isn't even touching you is knocking you off the map, I had to look it up myself. And they're too obnoxious some times, like that Mega Man stage.

In the original Smash, it's obvious you can't walk into a tornado and you need to move to higher ground when lava is rising. I was only playing For Glory for a while because I hated stage hazards, but seeing how well someone used Hyrule Castle 64's tornado as part of a strategy in a recent /v/ tourney, I wish they were still around but just more obvious and less obnoxious.
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>>322349384
>>322349356
>What is brawl

>>322349480
This to be honest
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The crossovers backgrounds in the stages introducing characters like Spike and Kat but still, this game just makes it look like PlayStation fans get it harder than Nintendo unless its a dudebro who never owned a PS1 and plays cinematic games
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playable netcode
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>>322349795
PS All Stars was a brand new IP and Smash is one of Nintendo's most successful.
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>>322355321
Also, inspiring people to come up with better ideas for the game
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>>322349331
TURN
OFF
STAGE
HAZARDS
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>>322356871
And the inspiration for cringe fanfics and fan art that are fun to look at
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>>322349594
there are sixty fucking characters in smash4 you troglodytes,mario and FE don't even make up a third of your fucking options.
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>>322355350

Because almost no one was on the servers because no one cares about the game. I'm not defending Nintendo's awful lazy netcode btw, but of course the netcode for this was way better.

No one was on the servers.
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>>322351619
everything you just said is so wrong i don't know where to start.
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Sir Daniel is a more likeable and interesting character than 99% of the roster of all smash games.

And I hate anything Sony related.
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>PSASBR gives you the merciful option to disable stage gimmicks
>Sakurai is asked during an interview why he won't let people turn off stage hazards in smash4
>"if i did that, you'd have playstation all-stars!"

jesus christ sakurai you dense motherfucker, everyone is stealing ideas from you and you can't steal one fucking good idea back
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>>322357253
Dont forget Parappa, Spike, Kat, Sly, Ratchet, Toro and Jak
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>>322357379

I forgot all of those garbage characters that don't matter.

The only character worth mentioning is Sir Daniel, and he's superior to almost the entire roster of all 4 smash games.
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>>322349331
Sir Daniel Fortesque. The first and only real recognition Medievil has gotten in next-gen. Why they aren't making Medievil 3 I really just do not know
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>>322357290
Sakurai won't even steal good ideas himself. That's probably the reason we'll never get Adventure Mode back.
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It was fun.
Broken, but fun.
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>>322357504

Do you want this new industry to fuck up Medievil?

Because you know they would fuck it up.
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>>322357464
C'mon, you cant hate Spike, what about Parappa?
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>>322350101
the devs were making a smash clone until sony execs said it had to be fundamentally different in some way, leading to ring-outs via Super only
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>>322353031
pretty good
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>>322357619
I'd like them to at least fucking TRY another Medievil. If it's shit I have the option to not buy it.
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>>322357629

Both are garbage.
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>>322353671
That would have been down right funny if Smash 4 released the same time as PSABR and Cloud was announced while they continued to struggle for new characters.
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>>322352654
Spyro is owned by Activision and is now a Skylanders character
Crash Bandicoot was also acquired from Universal by Activision so you will almost certainly see a Skylander of him soon
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>>322357763
Just tell me, how is Dan superior?, is it because he lacks popularity?
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>>322350851
I'm not the biggest Tekken fan, but why do they always use him to represent Tekken and never use Jin? Isn't he the main character of the games?

That would be like SF using Akuma to represent them.
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>>322349331
No clones.
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>>322357906
No one complains when Scorpion is more popular than Liu Kang in MK
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>>322358040
Ya, but no one gives a fuck about Liu Kang.
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>>322357906
Heihachi's been the face of Tekken in any crossover. He was also the rep for Soulcalibur 2.

you'd think Old Heihachi's VA dying would be an excuse to pass the torch to Jin though. instead they just switched to Young Heihachi, out of... respect I guess??
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>>322355315
>>322355315
>what is Brawl

Not as shitty of a game like PAS lol.
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>>322356995
To be fair, some characters in smash are literally just clones that should have been skins.
>dr mario
>dark pit
I mean come on, it's a literal reskin
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>>322353031
Haaaaah. You got me.
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>>322358546
yes and it was explained why they were there you idiots, what difference does it make? they are reskins but they are also completely separate characters canonically, they are not "evil pit" and "female marth"

Girl Robin and Boy Robin didn't get separate slots cuz they are the same character. how is this hard to fucking understand
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>>322358776
also with roy and dr mario it's just melee nostalgia and it completely worked so don't even start on those. just like mewtwo being there even though hes fucking shit
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>servers
this is wrong, connections worked peer-to-peer like pretty much all fighting games. Also if less people were on, it would be harder to find matches with good pings, not easier.
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I wish there was porn of this game but the lack of certain characters adn shitty models ruined it
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>>322355207
/v/ plays smash 64 and does tournies for it? Where do I sign up for that shit
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>>322349515
They didn't even do that well. It was just the stage being from one series with a big monster from another flailing its arms in the background.
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>>322358864
Well Dr.Mario is more acceptable than Roy if it comes to clone arguments seeing as Dr.Mario retains all of Mario's fighting styles pre-brawl.
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Costumes. Every character had at least one unlockable costume with its own set of colors, plus there were DLC costumes for everybody. Smash still has cool ones here and there like the Koopa kids but the majority if the cast don't get extra costumes which is made even more annoying when they continue to pump out Mii outfits.
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>>322360170
i wish could dress Spike with that girl costume he wore on the anime and then Kat was playing with him while wearing the dark kat costume haha
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>>322349493
>Evil Cole
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>>322358776
It's a lame excuse to take a character slot away. I don't care that technically they are different characters. They play exactly the same. I would have rather not had them in and gotten actual different characters who had their own movesets
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>>322360509
character slots

are not

a thing
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>>322360996
Yes they are. And fanboys like you prove it
>there are 60 characters in smash4
>LALALALA CLONES COUNT SHUT UP CANONICALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE SO RESKINS COUNT AS CHARACTERS 60 CHARACTERS GOD BLESS NINTENDO
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The online mode worked well
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>>322349331
You could turn stage hazards off

Not even Sakurai thought of that for Smash 4
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