You WILL be supporting him on patreon, right?
I don't support anyone but myself and my loved ones
No, of course not. He should have just quit like he said he would
>>322303527
No, because as much as I like him, I can't afford to support him financially as I struggle to support myself and I can't just make one exception when there are others that are just as deserving.
Hes a terrible reviewer and worse video editor. If you want a good jewtube reviewer I reccomend gggmanlives
>>322304108
this is a mark thread not a shill your own channel thread
he's a cool guy, and I could afford to, but I don't really like the idea of patreon. So many people abuse it, especially social justice fucks. That, and I'd rather support myself and my family.
I'd rather just by CGR merch, and I have before, I own one of the beer mugs that used to be produced and a t-shirt. It's really crappy what happened, but I'd imagine he's just gonna keep doing his own thing for a while and that's okay.
>>322303527
I'll be supporting himin spirit..
Glad to see he's finally doing a podcast, though.
>>322304193
What happened?
>>322304256
His wife killed herself and his son and now mark lost his faith in humanity.
>chill dude that can't form a critique at a high school level
>worth watching
>worth paying for
I mean he's a chill dude but let's be real.
He has a Patreon? Isn't he a millionaire? That's what I heard at least.
>>322304256
>>322304350
He wasn't making that much money off youtube anymore, hardly anybody actually goes to his website where he can get ad money, and I think youtube recently told him he wasn't worth paying with his sub to viewer ratio
>>322304350
No way. Post proof because that sounds like real bullshit.
>>322304568
Of course it's bullshit
>>322303527
sure, but only if he supports me back
that is how it should be
if i can't make a stable living off it, like i can a wage job, then no one should be making more than me doing less work than me.
im done with this shit.
>2016
>People have yet to realize that Dailymotion is the superior video platform and revenue model
>dude, flamethrowers, buy my mugs, dude this game is awesome, viral dog, dude, this game is pretty good, awesome, dude, here's 10 minute footage of me failing, awesome, I hope this game comes out for the collecoatarivectrex machine, dude, awesome, carnage is awesome, buy our mugs, pinball Machines, dude.
every single video
>>322304870
Dailymotion is honestly really good, and I love how they have highquality old movies uploaded and tons of old stuff, but youtube has a monopoly
>>322305005
dude, how could you forget his plug for TRUXTON ON THE SEGA
GENESIS
every fucking 5 seconds
>>322303527
>supporting someone afraid of having strong opinions
>>322304180
what's the difference?
>>322305005
dont drag viral dog into this
>>322305235
Are people here still slagging him off after he openly told both sides of GG to fuck off and stop commenting on his videos?
>>322305005
>I'm sure we'll see the sequel to this old obscure game on Dreamcast 2!
>>322306170
probably
Honestly mark should have been reviewing new games aside old ones weekly so he can cash in on the hundreds of thousands of people looking for reviews before they buy, but he always waits a few weeks, its probably what killed him
>>322304108
I just found his channel today and thought his New Vegas review was good so I watched nearly all of them. Good lord his voice gets annoying fast.
>>322306464
being a shit reviewer is what killed him
>>322306974
Except its not
a lot of popular reviews are absolute shit and you know it
>>322303527
Name a patreon actually worth giving to
>Cuckold Game Room
>>322306170
This is what I gathered from the reviews of several fighting games and Strange Journey
>>322303527
>Hipster welfare
lol, no
I'd rather have CGR die than live like a common nigger
>>322304802
Are you seriously salty that people make money on game content?
/v/ used to shill this guy all the time. Now everyone hates him. What happened?
>>322307437
im salty that i know more than all of them put together and am not making that much money doing easy as fuck shit.
i play games, why am i not getting paid? they aren't entertaining, they keep dying 1 million times like fucking arin does. god, how can people watch this shit?
>>322307804
they realized he's shit
>>322307836
Because people think they are funny and they have personality.
>>322305154
>he never ever talks about Truxton 2
Does he just ignore that there's a sequel or something?
>>322303527
No, but Mark has a dedicated fanbase (including a rich Saudi millionaire) so I don't feel the need to contribute. As much as people found them annoying, I think CGR Undertow should've stayed. Having Mark do all the reviews is pretty heavy, and sometimes I didn't mind hearing the other guys do reviews. Like some others have said, Mark does go overboard with his buzzwords and recycled gags.
>>322307836
>i play games, why am i not getting paid?
I don't know, bro. Maybe you should look at what they're doing, that you're not? Maybe there is a key element there that results in them getting paid.
>>322307836
Arino is fun for the reactions, he doesn't review anything.
>>322307836
>i play games, why am i not getting paid?
I think you know the answer to that
>>322308165
>Mohammed from Qatar
>Saudi
>>322308165
>Underetow should've stayed
Neo-/v/ is the worst.
>>322308395
Yeah yeah Derek was a dork but some of the others were okay, I liked TJ
If Spoony can still make a living off of Patreon by doing jack shit, then Mark has nothing to worry about.
>>322308249
what?
no, arino is a fucking comedian
arin is from game grumps and is not 0.001% funny
No.
I dont have the kind of money to "support" him, and I dont watch him that much.
But the biggest reason why is that his videos would be just as good without a fucking carnival warehouse with a B-Team. The main attraction is mark, and while I know he adores the arcade collection hes built he could easily just make videos sometimes with him talking about a game with some lazy editing added in. If he made a room of his house into a "CGR mancave" then that would be a pretty good set for him talking for extended periods anyway.
sorry that minecraft channels are making bank while youre stuck giving up your cool shit, mark. But youre why people watch the show.
>>322308647
Who the fuck is Arin? I thought you meant Arino.
>>322306628
Yah he's an aussie, but I think he gives games really fair honest reviews and he knows what he's talking about. I like that he doesnt ever blatantly jerk a game off like most reviewers do from time to time
>>322308395
>hating on Undertow
It was pretty helpful when I went on a DS spending spree a couple years back.
Got tons of great games based on the guy's reviews / first impressions / whatever they're called.
>>322303527
yee I'd probably go $5 a month for CGR videos
>you will never go to an arcade with Mark and bro it out
>>322308979
>bro it out
Tell us what you really mean
>>322308350
What if Mohammed from Qatar is the leader of isis
>>322309194
He means hot, steamy homosex involving Vectrex controllers.
>>322308979
>You will never be approved by Lord Karnage
>>322303527
>patreon
Not even for Mark, dude. Besides, he's well off as fuck. The value of his game collection has gotta be at least 100x what mine was before I sold it all. 1000x probably wouldn't be too inaccurate.
I do surveys on the internet to earn an extra $0.50 a day to help make ends meet. Mark wants extra money, all he has to do is make videos. Nothing stopping him from doing mind-numbing crap like surveys.
I'm not smart, I'm not talented, and I certainly don't have a likable personality. Money doesn't come easily to me. I see people buying every amiibo and donating hundreds to some slut on twitch. Opportunity cost is like some kind of forbidden knowledge or something. You're never going to stop needing money until you're dead, and it's always going to be hard-earned; you'll never have enough saved up, you'll never satisfy your infinite wants and infinite needs, and there will never be a good time to be spendthrift. Your money is finite, and you need it to build up a higher quality of life. Why would you give it away?inb4 who could be behind this post? it's not jewish to be miserly, the world is unfair and you need every penny you can get when things get even less fair. and that's not an 'if', that's a 'when'.
>>322304108
And you're a terrible moron. gggmanlives is okay. I like how he focuses on FPS, but I've watched dozens of his videos and it becomes rather obvious he's actually kind of bad at his favorite genre and doesn't realize it. His praise is usually on point, but take his criticisms with a grain of salt.
>>322303527
No. I don't give two fucks about any reviewer, video game or otherwise.
Especially not when I could be giving my money to people who actually make shit, like musicians, writers, movie directors and game creators.
If you watch video game reviews for entertainment you're as stupid, trashy and boring as the people who watch TV for entertainment
>>322309770
Here's your (You)
>>322309418
This anon gets it. I have always dreamed of pushing quarters in a pinball machine using my dick with Mark
>>322309263
>all that Panasonic 3DO crap he sent to Mark is actually rigged
>>322307836
Just fuck off and die if you aren't enjoying what you do. Putting in the effort or even being talented doesn't entitle you to be successful, the world doesn't owe you shit.
>all these kids talking about supporting their families
Who do you think you're fooling?
>>322310028
/v/ hates the idea of monogamy, but are annoyed that they're not good looking enough to be promiscuous with fuck around with clubsluts.
>>322310028
I'm 25 with a kid. Can't speak for the others.
>>322310028
Unlike most selfish, asshole Americans I take care of mine and my own.
>>322310019
> the world doesn't owe you shit
Unless you have the power to extort.
Can't live anywhere without someone telling you to pony up for something.
The assholes in charge will never know a day of misery in their lives, as they were born into security, want nothing of the sort for their fellow man, and have the power to ensure it remains as they please.
>>322309704
w-where do you surveys, pham?
>>322310028
It's a CGR thread. What did you expect, children and teenagers?
i like mark but i fucking hate patreon
so no
>>322310742
They don't have the power to extort, its just that most people are too afraid to die for freedom than they are to live with a dick in their arse.
>>322303527
I've said it in a previous thread, but nobody here should ever be against good content uploaders who ask for Patreon bux from their viewers.
Matthewmatosis does it. Are you now going to throw him into the trash just because he'd benefit from people giving him financial support for doing the thing we all love for him to do (which is to make awesome reviews)?
Mark's the same. His reviews may not be as in-depth as Matthewmatosis's, but he has managed to create a level of supreme comfy in his videos that other reviewers just can't match.
He deserves your money (so does Matthewmatosis).
>>322311385
Cool post
but my opinion is not changed, I'll watch their content but I'm not donating to someone so they can play videogames. If they can't produce content due to budget then tough shit.
>>322311384
>die free or live
>not extortion
>>322311385
>good content uploaders
What does that even mean? You are relying on someone else to make your lazy entertainment. You are paying to make you life worse, not better. You are paying more to not think, but to have ideas you already believe told to you for you to agree with.
You are the kind of person that makes 1984 a reality. You are a lazy dimwit and your opinion is worth nothing.
>>322303527
I love Mark but he doesn't need a patreon considering most of the stuff he reviews is donated by fans and 90% of every review he's done in the past three years has just been DUDE EL CAMINOS AND FLAME THROWERS LMAO!
>>322312013
Whatever you say, breh.
I believe in rewarding people who make good things. Just like how I believe in paying money to enjoy good movies or good games or good music, I also believe in paying money to enjoy good videos.
>>322312013
>paying for entertainment is stupid
>because entertainment is bad
>because I read a book in 4th grade once that vilified the concept of entertainment and I can't think for myself
This is a thread for adults, please leave.
>>322312059
He rents a studio.
>>322312059
DUDE TRUXTON LMAO
DUDE BEER LMAO
DUDE DREAMCAST LMAO
DUDE VECTREX LMAO
DUDE SPACE ARCADE LMAO
I love CGR, I also love money though. He made me realize how well beer and shoot-em-ups go together.
>>322312418
Dude...but that stuff's awesome
>>322303734
mark is love, mark is lifes
>>322312391
Which he doesn't need. His reviews have been in the same exact style since he started CGR again back in 2008. If space is the issue he should sell off the games or stop accepting donations from anyone who isn't Mohamed from Qatar.
>>322312657
He needs to studio for arcade space. You can't expect him to give up the centipede machine.
>>322312418
DUDE LORD KARNAGE LMAO
DUDE ROBOTECH LMAO
DUDE SEGA GENESIS LMAO
DUDE JESUS THE COKED UP CHICKEN LMAO
>>322312202
Good is not objective. I could say Hitler was a good person because he believed in a greater Germany in a time when Germany could have been consideered a 3rd world country.
Good is completely subjective and means nothing when describing the actual quality of something.
>>322312215
I didn't say entertainment. I said lazy entertainment. And paying to hear opinions you agree with is as lazy as you can get.
>>322312824
>I didn't say entertainment. I said lazy entertainment.
This, on a board about video games.
Where do you set the bar for "lazy"?
>>322312824
Sure, nigga. Bring up Hitler comparisons if it makes you feel any better. Why didn't you bring up Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot while you were at it for extra dramatic effect?
I believe in rewarding high-quality content. And Mark and Matt are among the best when it comes to high-quality videogame-related content.
>>322303527
If I can scrape the money together, yes.
Mark is probably the only online personality I would do this for.
He's only doing the Patreon because people literally begged him to try it. It's too bad it came to this, but the channel never recovered its viewership from the previous attempt at leaving Jewtube over their bullshit.
>>322313063
Are you that lazy that you can't think for yourself?
Lazy is when you need someone to spell something out for you. Lazy is when you need to watch something to form an opinion. Lazy is when you need to watch something to be entertained.
Video games cannot be lazy, as you actually have to interact with something to be entertained.
Watching youtube or any other streaming service is as bad as watching TV because it offers absolutely no substance.
>>322308708
Agreed
>>322311031
Look around, there's dozen of different sites. Mostly I do Amazon Mechanical Turk. They're legit, but you have to give them your social. The easiest surveys pay $0.10 to $0.20. I can make about $0.50 an hour, and I try to do it an hour every day. I made $80 last year.
Why is undertow shutting down? How much money do you need to talk about bad GBA games?
>>322313087
Do you actually want an intellectual conversation, or do you just want to pretend to so as to make yourself feel better about your actual lack of intellectual perception?
If you think reviewing a game is high quality entertainment you are retarded.
>>322313542
>visual and audio entertainment is not stimulating
>because I say so
>interactive entertainment is more stimulating
>because I say so
All the people of the Facebook generation playing Farmville and Clash of Clans don't help your argument.
>>322314037
Yeah, yeah. Intellectual Conversations. Quality. Reviews. Abloobloobloobloobloo.
>>322314121
Thats not what I said, kid.
How can you ever learn to win an argument if you can't even understand your opponents argument?
>>322314236
So you're nothing but a lazy pampered faggot.
>>322314575
Whatever you say, homeboy.
>>322313846
Well, that sounds like the most inefficient way that you could possibly spend your time. Even doing nothing would be more productive, at least you'd be getting rested. Hell, for $80 a year it might make more sense to just turn your computer off for an hour every day.
>>322313925
I've compiled a list of the people who enjoyed watching undertow and didn't think "Gee, it would be a million times better if Mark did a review for this game. I sure love this guy who sounds like he's 16 even though he isn't, and I like how he's not terrible at reviewing and doesn't dislike virtually everything he reviews".
The list is as follows:
Don't you see? There's no real entertainment. If you're entertained by anything at all you're pretty much sheep. A true intellectual has no need for entertainment. We don't even feel the need to seek it. Our own brilliance keeps us going.
Don't be sheep. Think for yourselves. Don't let the jews control your life.
>>322305005
this
>>322314463
>deflecting inconvenient points
>providing zero evidence for arguments
>using condescending language
If you won't debate properly, I'll just leave and let you stew in your ignorance.
>>322306628
I just find it annoying how he ends on a rising inflection on some of his sentences, like he's asking a question. It's in every video.
I miss the Internet days when people used to put out content they enjoyed doing for the sake of doing what they like, nowadays thanks to Google welfare system, everyone expects fucking handouts to do shit they once did for free.Whats next? 4chan janitors will only do their job if you tip them 10 cents to remove posts users dont like?
I kinda lost interest in his reviews. It's always the same formula with LE TRUXTON REFERENCES LE VECTREX INSERT LE GAME IN LE WRONG CONSOLE XD and he fucking likes EVERYTHING.
It was good for a couple years then it just got boring to watch.
>>322315629
>Not wanting to get paid for doing what you love
What, do you work in a coal mine for the sake of telling anons on the internet that you have a "real job"?
>>322315270
Posting images of some faggot rapist and being dismissive isn't constructing and argument, you child.
>>322315153
*tips*
>>322315668
No, I just think these good for nothing idiots have it way too easy just because they got lucky and managed to build a following out of nothing. Like Twitch camwhores.
>clevage for money
>>322303527
No, even though I really like the guy. I do wish him the best. I'll continue watching his videos though.
Also RIP Derek. Never cared much for him early on, as he was extremely opinionated and totally missed the mark on good games. Though I do feel for the guy having to leave after it being so important to him for so long. Hopefully he finds some niche if he makes his own videos later on.
>>322305005
It sure beats
>DUDE CORPORATE CONSPIRACY
>SJW
>CENSORSHIP
>SHILL
It's refreshing just having a guy play games and enjoy them without all the other bullshitwhich that said bullshit is valid to complain about, but sometimes you need a break.
>>322315629
Mark and Dave started out doing it as a job before the dot-com crash. Mark brought it again back because he still believed he could make it profitable. This was always a job for him, but in the past, he was able to make it work on ad revenue and merch sales. Those days are over. He was going to quit outright, get a new job, and maybe post the occasional video as a hobby, but the fans (especially on the forums) clamored for a Patreon so that he wouldn't have to sell off the studio.
>>322315153
Open your eyes you moron, the Jews are just the tools of the Vatican, who in turn are just a front for the Babylonian brotherhood.
>>322308584
TJ was a turbo weeb with excellent taste. He almost never reviewed anything anymore on Undertow though.
>>322315916
Pretty sure Mark owns a movie studio or whatever those things are called
He even directed several documentaries about the american civil war
>>322315951
>the Jews are just the tools of the Vatican
Other way around. The Vatican has been controlled by the Jews and the CIA since Vatican II.
>>322311385
See anon, it's literally only okay when Matthew does it.
Just like it's literally only okay when A team, or Miyazaki-san-senpai-domo does it.
>>322312657
>if space is the issue
>space
It aint cheap to keep up an intergalactic space arcade bro.
>>322316098
That was in 2007-8, and it was pretty clear that they were barely getting by. They did direct-to-video, and the market for that has collapsed as digital supplants physical media. Also, he switched focus to CGR after its success on YT.
>>322315795
What are you on about? I haven't posted a single image this entire thread.
You think awfully highly your opinion to defend it so vehemently without any supporting evidence, and to make assumptions about my character that have no basis in reality just add to this air of desperation.
If you go into an argument looking to push some agenda or ignorant opinion, you're doing it wrong.
An argument is a learning experience, and frankly, I don't think I can learn anything from someone who assumes too much about topics they do not understand.
Please use a tripcode so I can filter you.
>>322315879
Unless you're a scamming prankster today, Youtube is a grind. Especially the super competitive and beyond oversaturated gaming part of Youtube. Anyone who manages to build a decent following had to work hard and get lucky, just like anyone else who managed to get their dream job. Even if your dream job is sucking dick, there are millions of people out there that have been sucking dick way longer than you have and you're gonna have to suck harder than ever to get where you want to be.
Should have switched to Patreon when his fans suggested it years ago.
He will easily get into the 2k+ territory plus what little Youtube revenue does for him.
>>322316837
This. There are literally thousands of LPrs and game reviewers. Some have THOUSANDS of videos, yet have under 1k subscribers. It's a doggy dog world out there.
> His reviews used to get hundreds of thousands of views or even millions
> Now he's lucky if he gets above 50k
What went wrong?
Go back to Reddit. This isn't video games.
>>322316837
>YouTube is a grind
By itself, yeah. You'll get nowhere fast without marketing.
>>322317016
To be honest, I got a little fed up with the cyborg space ninja / comic book shilling and stopped watching around then.
I still love his channel, but I only watch the older stuff.
There was also a period of time he stopped posting his reviews to YouTube, so it seems likely that a lot of viewers fucked off for the lack of wholesome entertainment on the channel.
>>322317016
The Pewdiepie and peanutbuttergamers took over.
More goofy, more jump cuts, more silly faces, more bashing on games for today's ADHD youth to enjoy.
>>322317434
It's a recognized issue.
https://archive.is/MdPyv
>>322317434
But even THAT slice of the pie (no pun intended) is dwindling because EVERYONE seems to be jumping in on the bandwagon and there's only SO much to go around, eventually something is gonna give.
>>322317341
>There was also a period of time he stopped posting his reviews to YouTube, so it seems likely that a lot of viewers fucked off for the lack of wholesome entertainment on the channel.
I'd say it was a combination of this and
>>322317434
>The Pewdiepie and peanutbuttergamers took over.
>>322317642
Yup. It's got all the signs of a bubble that's going to burst before long. Hopefully it will take Youtube Red with it.
>>322317642
Indeed. The Youtube gaming market has become over saturated. The only way to stand out now, is to do something different and cater to a niche. I hate to bring up matthew, but that's exactly what hes done, and finds some success in that as you'll never find jontron making a 2 hour review autisticly pointing out flaws in a game.
The bubble will break soon, give it a year or two.
>>322316136
Hutton Gibson posts on /v/!
