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For a character that's supposed to be mother of all humanity, she sure as hell did some truly evil things to her own children.
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>>322257373
>mothers
>not irredeemably evil
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she wanted some dick and nothing else matters to females when they want it
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>>322257489
Sounds like you mean your own mother
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>>322257489
Awww, did someone have to cook their own chicken fingers today?
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pretty easily the best jrpg villain to be honest
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Quick question, what the fuck happened to this guy's clothes and most of his body parts? They only attacked him for a few seconds and nothing more than a bit of torso and head now
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>Xenogears 2 never
>Xenogears disk 2 never
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>>322258950
If they're assassins from Solaris which feeds it's citizens meat from other humans, then they likely ate them.
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tfw xenogears episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 will NEVER EVER come out
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Who still owns the rights to Xenogears? SE?
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>>322257373
>tfw named my character Miang in Xenoblade X

Best female villain.
I tried to make her look like when she fused with Elly.
Also got in the same online Squad as some guy named Ramsus.
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>>322258619
Why do males on this fucking board talk like they come from /lgbt/
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>>322260017

Because /v/ is for fags, just like /pol/ is for pedos.
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>>322259847
SE owns the rights to the game, Takashi owns the rights to the story, this is how he was able to piece together the story from Xenosaga with Xenogears despite the former being owned by Bamco.
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>>322260172

Fucking Square, they died right then and there when they destroyed Xenogears by cutting its funding and imprisoning it in their "might do some time in the future" purgatory.
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>>322258950
That looks like shit.

An HD remake could be pretty badass, though.
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>There will never be a remake of xenogears
>They''ll never fix the shitty disc 2 and make all that cutscenes playable
Why even bother to live?
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>>322259494
>7
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>>322260809
Only if it's made in the U.S. Because of the change of law over in Japan, this whole scene will either have to be cut or altered to be less gruesome than it already was.
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>>322260074
>random pole mention out of nowhere
Take that butthurt obsession of that board of yours to >>>/tv/.
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>>322257373

She's not the Mother of humanity. She's half of the mother of false humanities consciousness. A false humanity specifically made as spare parts for a super weapon to use to repair it's self.
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>>322257373
I take what is Greek religion for 500.
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>>322259494
Isnt Xenosaga supposed to be episode 1, 2 and 3?
I dont like thinking of it like that but if its true then at least we got something.
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>>322262947
no it's supposed to just be episode 1, or rather a re-imagining
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Why, disc 2, why?!!!!!!

I heard xenogears fell apart due to FF8 and the creator or whatever was salty as fuck.
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>>322258726
Krellian > Ramsus > Id > Grahf > Deus > Miang
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>>322262947
Xenosaga is a re-imagining that tried to start closer to 1, and that's also probably why it's worse.

It's a common misconception that Xenogears was supposed to be 6 games, when that's just how they plotted out the story while coming up with it. They kicked around ideas to make each chapter a different game in an entirely different genre (RPG, RTS, space sim, etc), but when they actually sat down to create Xenogears it ended up encompassing 2-5. Meanwhile, Xenosaga really was supposed to be 6 games, and probably wouldn't have been any better off if they'd made that many.
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>>322264069
not really a misconception when the game literally ends by saying end of episode V
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>>322257373
Ellie = Eve
Purple Hair = Lilith

One is the classically positive features of a woman the other is the classically negative. Turns out when you combine them you get a net negative :/
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>>322264592
You sure it's not telling /v/ it's the end of the episode?
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>>322263263
Oh shit. I...don't know.
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Anyone have a link to Perfect Works scan?
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>>322264820

Nah. Xenogears was originally going to be a multipart story, and in Perfect Works the other parts were mentioned.

Xenosaga is based on the general concept of episode 1, but it's not technically episode 1.
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So /v/ who is best Element?
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>>322264592
That's the very definition of a misconception. People take that to mean that Xenogears was only episode V, when it actually displayed II, III, and IV as well. The end of Xenogears is the end of episode V. The opening cut-scene is the beginning of episode II.
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>>322263185

Square needed more money for their Gackt game.
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>>322265443
i think you're inverting what a misconception is here; you're not only misrepresenting what little is showed to us via a complete extrapolation of information that isn't present but also applying a strange deduction to something that's never implied. at no point does the game divide itself internally into episodes, the one indicative we have the game as a whole is episodic is the end where you're informed it's episode V.
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>>322265381
Bunny butt
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Xenosaga Ep 1: the story of humans inventing Deus
Xenosaga Ep 2: the story of the Eldridge crash and Cain vs Abel
Xenosaga Ep 3: the story of the rise of science on the planet
Xenosaga Ep 4: the story of world wars and Gears in use
Xenosaga Ep 5: Xenogears' story
Xenosaga Ep 6: ????
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>>322265381
The girl with the gin 'n tonic laser beam.
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>>322265643

Episode 1: Finding the Wave Existence, making Zohar and eventually making Deus and it's rampage.
Episode 2: Story of Abel vs Cain.
Episode 3: Story of Kim.
Episode 4: Story of Lacan (Grahf)
Episode 5: Story of Fei
Episode 6: What happens to the world after it's almost destroyed, after humanity finds out it's a fake and their only source of technology (and energy) is destroyed.

The reason episode 5 is the first game is because all the other 4 parts have bad endings with you losing, and episode 6 wouldn't make any sense until after episode 5.
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>>322265443
Proof? It's an interesting theory, but I need something to hold that up.
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>>322265443
That's technically true although most events in Ep2-4 are glossed over

Like Grahf going ballistic and destroying 90% of the planet with the help of the Diabolos Corps (automated Deus Gears) is just mentioned in a few lines.
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>>322265984
Nevermind, just saw the other posts and remembered Perfect Works.

>>322265521
>>322263185
That's false.
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>Final Fantasy 8, the worst FF since 2, is the reason Xenogears ended up getting a shit 2nd disc

Fuck you Squeernix.
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>>322265984
Perfect Works bro
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>>322266196

>That's false.

Given your shitty track record in remembering things correctly in this thread, I'm not too inclined to believe what you say.
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>>322266424
I'm glad this isn't confirmed otherwise I'd be mad forever
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>>322266683
>>322266424
Feel free to offer up a legitimate source, then.
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>>322266007
I'm just annoyed by people seeing that timeline in Perfect Works and assuming it was supposed to be multiple games. Especially when the very next page in Perfect Work mentions that the game itself is the middle 4 chapters and only I and VI are unshown.
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>>322266424
It's never been proven but I'll keep being mad at it for lack of things to be mad about
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>>322267272
>>322266789
>>322266748
>As Takahashi had begun development on Xenogears he felt that the budget was limited, and “Soon they were making Final Fantasy VII right next door to us, and they had a quite different budgetary scale. So I couldn’t help asking for [money for animation],” Takahashi told Sony in 2002.

Straight from the horse's mouth.
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>>322267272

What, is the fact that Square are a bunch of Jew cunts and decided to keep the IP and not use it, instead of selling it and letting Xenogears live on not enough for you to be mad at them?
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>>322267604
Now in Squares defence, Xenogears is already an 80 hour game even without Disc2 and Takahashi is a megalomaniac (see Xenosaga) so them cutting the funding is understandable
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>>322267604
So you admit you were wrong then? VIII took nothing from Gears.

>longtime series has bigger budget than one-off game
Wow, what shocking news.
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>>322268146
FF7, FF8 and Chrono Cross are all at fault. Square just didn't believe in the Xenogears project at all, so fuck 'em.
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>>322263263
Why people don't know about Aphrodite?
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>you will never go back to a time where square made amazing games
>all the rpgs, threads of fate, fftactics, etc.
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>people say you kill god at the end
>you wind up rescuing him instead
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>>322268925
You do kill God thought
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>>322268925
>siding with HAR instead of the almighty Deus
Purge yourself, stupid lamb.
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Xenoblade - episode -1
Xenoblade X - episode 0
Xenosaga - Episode 1-4
Xenogears - episode 5

Shulk's wish to create a new world created Mira. Zanza's spirit lives on in Mira and is the cause of all the Mira voodoo. At some point far in the future when humanity creates Deus, Zanza moves into it
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>>322269538
>Xenosaga - Episode 1-4
this makes no sense
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>>322269670
Ok

Xenosaga episode 1
Xenogears 2-5
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>>322268686
You didn't enjoy Bravely Default?
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You are thinking in far to linear terms
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>>322269538
It's actually more like
Xenosaga = Aborted attempt to make Episode 1
Xenoblade = not originally connected but X makes this an episode 0 kinda
Xenoblade X = Episode 1 again because Saga was shit
Xenogears = Episode 5 with flashbacks to 2-4
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>>322270076
>Episode 1 again because Saga was shit
Your mother was shit
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Wouldn't Xenosaga Ep6 be kinda shit because the mechs would no longer function anymore? T.T. kinda painted himself into a corner with that.
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>>322270583
nothing stopping them from creating mechs from other sources of energy
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>>322270583
They can and did just cram an Erde Kaiser generator into Asher in Episode 3
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>>322270076
>Thinking XC and X are connected

Look at this little Wel
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>>322270740
you mean like Seibzehn, which also stopped working after you killed deus?
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>>322257373
Her job didn't involve being nice to the "kids".
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>>322271341
nothing states that seibzehn isn't using the zohar
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Xenogears never stopped working, they could just use it as the new Zohar
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Would you eat it /v/?
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>>322271849
I love experimenting with weird ass food, I'd totally try it
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>>322271498
every mech in xenogears used ether as the fuel source

without wave existence, there can be no ether, so no mechs
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>>322272231
so find an alternative source
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>>322268541
because they are without love.
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>>322272231
Well, cept Xenogears


It's pretty much the only working gear left in the world.
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>>322271849
I want someone to write a fiction where the people start mutating. It concentrates on one person as they mutated but they're different as they retained their mind. Goes on how they go about their life, like maybe taking care of a love-one that really is nothing but a mindless whathever-they're-called. Been awhile since I played the game.
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>tfw no cheesy crossover game like smash, capcom vs., or FF internal crossovers like Dissidia or RK
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>>322272480
Almost literally the manga parasyte
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>>322272587
>All we get is Kos-mos and Shion in Namco vs Capcom
I want Fei fighting Ryu in an actual fighting game
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>>322272480
They are called Wells

And a lot of them did keep their minds after they mutated
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>>322272601
What? I don't speak weeb or hang on /a/.

Seriously though, what is it/sauce? I'm heavily into transformation, the more bizarre, the better, but heavily turned off by identity kill/brain washing. Mind alteration thrown in like salt and pepper though is gud.
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>>322272753
Damn, I haven't played Xenogears since it first came out. Dat soylent scene and part nuking down the superplane they hijacked.
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>>322272948
A lot of them either ended up going to the Soylent System or to Nisan
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>tfw there will never be a Xenogears remake with restored gameplay in disc 2 and recruitable Ramsus
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>>322272819
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasyte
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>>322270076

Xenoblade is in no way related to previous Xenogears games. Hell, it wasn't even called Xenoblade until shortly before it was released (it's name was Monado).
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>>322273327
Also the anime version is airing on Toonami, you can head over to /co/ to watch it with us in the Toonami Generals though you may have to catch up first.
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>>322272740
I kinda meant a crossover of all Xeno games.
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>>322273559
Was in no way.

X brings it into the fold.
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>>322273305
When is playable Margie
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>>322273691
XCX isn't connected to XC in but references and fanservice


XCX is its own canon.
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>>322273773

They're not related and never will be (legal reasons prevent them from being related). Xenosaga has more in common with Xenogears than Xenoblade does, but even Xenosaga is not actually related to Xenogears.

Literally, the name "Xenoblade" was used to pay respect to the lead developer (who was the lead developer of Xenogears too) and it was a last minute change.
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>>322273580
Thanks for the heads up. Neat how things like this can turn out.
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>>322273986
And you know...the Nopon
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>>322274106
So you saying that Xenogears and Chrono Trigger are connected to each other since Luka tells you how the save system works....
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I loved all of Xenosaga III's Xenogears references...!
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>>322273986
It's more connected than any other game in the series.

XCX and XC are more canonically linked than Gears and Saga.
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>>322260357
It's kind of funny there's that rumor they cut xenogears budget for ffviii. Look at which one has the more endearing legacy.
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How's the fan translation for this coming along?
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>>322274106
The Nopon in XC and the Nopon in XCX are two different groups. Hell, the only reason they talk about XC is due to fanservice.

>>322274252
Do erde Kaiser and the Weltall Id fight too as well as not-Abel and not-Elly

>>322274287
Not really since Earth is destroyed in two very different ways in both games
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>>322274180
I don't know what specifically you are referring to (other then the fact that the save systems in both games have a similar story-goal) but the Nopon are a race inherent to the Bionis and even XCX acknowledges this
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>>322273986
I know. Much like how all the FF games aren't connected, and still get crossovers. Or Smash Bros. You know.
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>>322274482
>Tatsu mentioning homs
>Sword of Legendaryness is a makeshift monado
>Monado hairpin in Lin's hair
>Telethia enemies
What am I missing?
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>>322274252
All the bosses you fight in Abel's Ark are actually Omnigears
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>>322274682
The fucking hairpin should be the biggest reason as to how the games are not connected to each other

And Tatsu mentioning Homs was very tongue and cheek and broke the 4th wall when he looked at the screen and smiled while shit was going down.
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>>322274682
Parts of the mechonis in oblivia

Nopon talking about the ancient frontier village

Mira is the world shulk made at the end of blade was pretty much confirmed.
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>>322274989
Explain Earth
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>>322274413
Which is false.
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>>322275136
What is there to explain?
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>>322275245
That they were destroyed in two very different ways.

Hell, XCX has more plot important parts that lean toward Xenogears and Xenosaga than it does to XC
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>>322275434
Earth and Mira aren't the same planet.
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>>322274042
Just because they can't legally say something doesn't mean they can't heavily imply it.
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>>322275695
In XC, Earth was destroyed in Zanza's Universe Creation experiment. Although Shulk did create a new universe at the end, this was not a restart, there was no new Earth, it just applied new rules to the XC universe, such as the introduction of salty oceans and such. In XCX, Earth is destroyed when Ganglion and Race X fought over it. The fact that Lin is wearing a Monado hairpin should be the biggest evidence that XC and XCX are two different canon.
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>>322264732
Miang even becomes a snake thing in the end
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>>322275898

I could go make a game right now and heavily imply any link to any game I want.

Doesn't make it so.

There is no link and there was never any link. If you find any similarities that is purely because the lead designer in both games is the same. Artists have different styles, musicians have different styles, it's not unreasonable for a designer to have his own style that can be seen in games he designed.
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>>322276097
You're making the assumption that earth is mira still. Earth is not the same earth from before it's a new universe.

They are different planets.
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>>322276409
>XCX Earth had a moon, Sol, solar system
>XC Earth had a moon, Sol, solar system


And where the hell do you get that I am thinking Earth and Mira is the same?
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>>322276203
>I could go make a game right now and heavily imply any link to any game I want.

There is a vast difference in you doing that, and the same guy who wrote and directed all the games related to the conversation doing that.

There is a difference in "similarities" and "This is that thing, but slightly altered so I don't get sued" That's why you don't fight Weltall and Weltall-Id in Saga 3 but instead Omega, and why not-Fei isn't Abel but U-DO.
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>>322276621
Klaus's earth isn't the same as the earth that gets blown up in XCX.

They're in the same places and have the same names but they are not the same. You should replay xenoblade. Basically he hit a reset button on the universe so many things remain static but other changed as he is the new god.
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>>322276409
And the same countries with the same dialects and cultures just happened to evolve out of nowhere on the new earht, just because? Are you fucking retarded?

Seriously niggers, how the flying fuck can people not understand that XC and XCX are not related outside of fanservice and nods? Are you faggots going to say that every single FF game happens in the same world thanks to Moogles, Chocobos and the occasional fiend appearance? Jesus fucking christ
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>>322276880
But Shulk isn't the new god, he made the new universe so that there would be no need for such things. Seems like you need to replay the game.

You still haven't said how I thought Earth was Mira

>>322276989
People's first Taka games, I guess. That, or they somehow wanted more of Xenoblade Chronicles' story even though it ended.

I think that is insulting to Taka since XC was his first finished game and yet people want him to continue it.
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>>322276880
Where did you pull that from? Your gargantuan ass? Seriously post some goddamn proof of that, because they said the earht and UNIVERSE were destroyed and reduced to that bizarre state that was the world of the titans and after that the Monado AI took both Bionis and whatever was left from the Mechonis and created a new universe from that only without any gods
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>>322277234
You really should replay xenoblade you clearly have a poor memory.
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>>322277226
Its a cyclical thing I guess, we had on forums people doing their hardest to connect Gears and Saga

>>322277392
Good one, you fail to produce anythign to back up any of your claims and then you fall back to the old tactic of deflecting arguments, tell me are you one of the retards that watch that vaati faggot videos about Souls lore?
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>>322274989
>Mira is the world shulk made at the end of blade was pretty much confirmed.

If you re-watch the ending of xenoblade the area melia's looking at over the sea looks a hell of a lot like Primordia in topography.
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>>322277596
>Good one, you fail to produce anythign to back up any of your claims
So now you're just talking about yourself?
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>>322260017
it isn't called gaymen for nothing
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>>322277637
Green with occasional hills and mountains? Truly that is only found on Primordia, look FFXV also takes place on Mira
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>>322277734
Tell me again how its the same universe
https://youtu.be/BtcfMP_72zg?t=1m30s
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>>322277791
No, if you'd played both games you would know exactly what I mean.

It even has the giant fucking spike at the north side of primordia and one of those several dome shaped things all over primordia
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>>322276989
>being this butthurt by the fact that XC and XCX are loosely connected to each other
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>>322277984
They reset the universe.

What else are you having a hard time grasping?
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>>322270076
>Episode 1 again because Saga was shit
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>You will never understand
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>>322257373
Is there any way to pick up Xenosaga on PSN? or do you have to use a PS2 or emulation?
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Reminder that this guy did everything wrong.
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>>322274989
It still isn't and never will be no matter how much you mgsfags try to tie worthless shit together
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>>322279321
>Potato commenting on another potato
It's like a perfect circle of spuds.
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>>322279803
>knew what the Soylent System really is and chose to let Fei and Elly eat a can of that meat anyway
What a dick
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>>322279803
Cain and Citan were secretly working against Solaris, though. What did he do wrong?
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>>322280306
They were hungry, it was better to let them regain their strength then to go on without eating. Also it had the added impact of FURTHER pushing them towards hating solaris.
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>>322279803
He shoulda fucked her
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>>322279803
Glasses symbolizes a character whose probably up to no good in animu
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>Citan finally gets his katana
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>>322257373
Just like my dear mother.
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>>322281803
>that poor anon who was molested by his own mom which resulted in him turning into a serial killer
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>>322281538
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