remember when rpg maker games were free?
what went wrong? Why do people just keep lowering their standards?
>>322233297
The game encourages progressive values, which makes me happy. I'd gladly pay for it again.
>picture unrelated
>>322233407
Oh, this is gonna go far.
>>322233407
>>322233519
can we please get some serious replies here
I really want to know what caused this sudden change in mentality
>>322233407
i remember someone came on to /utg/ and tried out his bait and everyone told him to go on /v/ and praise the game for how progressive it is and to make yourself look like an sjw
was that you anon
if it was good job
>>322233726
Money=Serious>Less autism like in your thread
>>322233726
Perhaps you should have posted a game actually made in RPG Maker then, genius.
>>322233297
I think if people are going to sell their own games they should have to write their own engine.
music is 10/10
ost takes a shitload of time to be fair but I don't know if this game just stole it from something
>>322233875
it's obviously one
but I don't want this thread to be a discussion about whether or not undertale is a rpg maker game, so here you go
>>322233810
I don't go on /utg/, should I?
Remember when flash games were free?
>>322233797
>still posting this
Found a new barneyfag
>>322234081
It was made in game maker
>>322233297
>Pirating doesn't exist.
>calling a GameMaker Game an RPG Maker Game
>>322233297
wasnt undertale made with gamemaker?
Btw, for someone interested in making simple games, what's easier to use - gamemaker or rpgmaker?
>>322234183
There's a lot of waifu posting and people obsessing over the goat but it's not too bad. No gameplay or story discussion anymore really, and its slowly dying but it might be worth checking out. It can get pretty comfy.
>>322234219
I bet you think that shitty pixel art style in the 'remake' was a good art direction
>>322234348
RPGMaker
>>322234028
All of the music was composed by the creator. There's a lot of homages to other games such as earthbound and phoenix write but it's all original.
>>322234249
>>322234313
you do know that's even worse right?
at least devs had to pay for rpg maker
I think it was somewhere around the time when RPG maker games weren't better than literally 99% of the market.
>>322234380
>No gameplay or story discussion anymore really
yeah no, that's a red flag right there
>>322234081
>>322234249
You're both wrong, it was initially being made in RPG Maker but was "ported" to Game Maker early in development because RPG Maker is way too shit and restrictive to make actually original games with.
>>322234348
Depends on what game you want to do. RPG maker is used to make RPGs, while in Game Maker you can make any 2d game. RPG maker is easier to use since it's more limited.
>>322234615
Well there's lots of character discussion and some story discussion, but mostly it's just shitposting waiting for new content and maybe some writefagging.
But yeah its kinda shit. I mostly go there out of habit now.
>>322234678
You can make 3D games in Game Maker. And not just recently, one of my friends made polygonal 3D games with Game Maker 4.3 back in the early 00s.
wasn't this a kickstarter game anyway? could easily have been released as freeware.
Daily reminder that Undertale fans are autistic gays and should have a containment board like /mlp/
>>322234534
>tasteless lolicon degenerate
opinion discarded.
>>322235253
We are dying out too quickly to bother. Give it a month and only the massive faggots / biggest fans will be left.
>>322233797
>>322235253
>This guy managed to be so autistic that people who were even inclined to look for Undertale's OST thought he was a faggot.
Holy shit
>>322235792
>whites and albino poc
>Undertale Shitposting Thread #45599002
Wow how original. Gee I wonder if
>>322233797
Oh yeah, there it is. Now all we need is is the "my dad worked for Toby and said that undertale was shilled" image.
How are you faggots not bored of this shit by now?
>>322236268
>How are you faggots not bored of this shit by now?
Ask the people who still hype a 5 hour long game with 0 depth or character development.
>>322234673
The port was actually Game Maker 8.1 to Game Maker Studio, which was why he wasn't able to have the manual in the final version. Rpg Maker was never involved.
>>322234517
Game Maker isn't free, assuming you want to make anything worthwhile with it.
>>322236101
>poc
Urkel spotted
>>322235253
Can't they just be thrown in with MLP so they can annihilate each other?
>>322236430
>People having fun with a game are worse than people who regularly shitpost constantly on a video game image board about how much they hate a video game
>>322234081
>>322235792
now fix their noses.
Undertale wasn't made in rpgmaker. At least pretend to put effort into shitposting. You owe us that much.
>>322233297
They aren't lowering their standards because they never had higher standards to begin with. Most people praising games like Undertale haven't been playing games for very long, and mostly just play internet pop games like N64 era stuff, Valve games, etc.
>>322235792
>>322233797
wew
If people want to charge others for their creations they are free to whether they are shitty or not. It's always been like this in the industry.
>>322233797
every single thread
>>322237805
I guarantee I have a larger vidya collection than you and Undertale was my 2015 GOTY. Meme all you want about your shitty open world games or watered down WRPGs, it says a lot about the state of the video game industry when a game that isn't even that good (like Undertale), still manages to be my GOTY.
>>322233297
This is the new MLP?
>>322233407
Progressive values like what? Friendship is like the most traditional value in all of humanity.
>>322233797
Who cares about tumblr anyway
>>322238978
>>322238978
fuck off
>>322239146
this is not a RPG maker game
pic related is.
>>322233297
i wish you guys would keep this shit on reddit just for one day
>>322239345
Wow look at this, actual gameplay and actual graphics.
>>322239531
What do we need to keep on reddit, anon?
>>322239576
Undertale's gameplay is more involved
>pressing menu buttons vs dodging projectiles
>>322233726
People started looking for new ways to monetize their talents because the traditional economy is failing them.
>>322238978
IS THERE MORE OF THIS?
>>322238978
pls more
>>322239758
>IS THERE MORE OF THIS?
maybe?
>>322233297
>5 months
>undertale shitposting threads still exist
Can we go back to shitposting about MN9? That was much more fun
>>322233297
Remember when people where paid to test games.
These days, humanity has devolved so much that people PAY to test a game. We are witnessing the downfall of humanity, one braincell at a time
>>322239693
>more involved
That's just your perspective that dodging attacks manually, a mechanic that you don't even need, is more involved than stuff like exploiting weaknesses, using multiple characters with different abilities, figuring out strategies for different encounters, and having a game experience that lasts longer than 4 hours.
>>>/y/2227806
>>322233297
https://soundcloud.com/audriana-redden
>>322239758
https://e621.net/post/index/1/thewill
>>322239848
source senpai
>>322239848
DICK NO
STOP
>>322239848
>under(her)tail on e621
noice, I knew being a furfag would pay off eventually
>>322240049
>>322240054
Source is here >>322240002
>>322239897
It is more involved, lad. I'm not saying that Undertale's gameplay is better but menu-based combat is hardly as involved as undertale's gameplay. It call comes down to statistics, numbers, and good RNG. In Undertale, every bit of damage you receive and give is not on the RNG, but on the player. You can't just randomly miss or dodge. Undertale's battle system is really bare bones and not fleshed out at all but if somebody actually made a game fleshing the system out more I can see the system actually being GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4iHJeHYCV0
>>322239910
remember when bait threads had a shread of effort?
what went wrong? Why do people just keep lowering their standards?
>>322240002
>that kirby
>>322240191
this
Can you fucking imagine an actual turnbased JRPG with debuffs, party members, good graphics, an actual good story more menu strategy combined with a schmup battlesystem?
>>322238715
Welcoming monsters into your land. Multiculturalism and immigration are great.
>>322239345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzVP3dPhdps
is a interesting fan made boss
>>322240191
well, the mario and luigi games have the counter attacking and the action command thing
it not the bullet hell style but its close to the hole "avoiding damage"
>>322240439
that would be nice senpai
>>322240191
The genocide run's even better. Undertale's battle system really has the potential to be used and expanded upon by competent devs. Toby just made a good framework/skeleton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbbOmJ6VSws
>>322240501
yeah i played this
i don't like the design of the character that much but the attacks where cool
looking foward to more undertale fan made stuff
i just hope they don't turn into something like pic related
>>322240191
Once again, I must reiterate: Dodging attacks manually isn't a necessary mechanics, and actually i dislike the mechanic for several reasons.
Plus if i wanted real time dodging in an RPG anyways i'd go all the way and play an action RPG.
>>322240439
Undertale is not schmup.
>>322240832
meant to reply to >>322240501
>>322240914
It's not a bullet hell either. A lot of bullet-lites have been called schmups and touhoufags have been calling undertale a schmup so I'm just parroting them
>>322234842
Is it viable though? With new engines making a 3D game in GMS would be just needlessly complicated.
>>322240832
>Battle system has potential
The battle system is bare bones as fuck, you just time your hits. There's no special moves, no weaknesses, no debuffs or buffs (that you can notice) or magic or anything.
>>322233878
You do realize 90% of devs use a pre built engine
>>322233297
>remember when rpg maker games were free?
people were always encouraged to sell them, it's actually supposed to be the point of rpg maker
also I dare you to make that kind of game in any rpg maker
>>322240876
Alright, I kind of like the nightmare elsen. Got a link or a name of the mod?
>>322241158
sorry i don't
you should ask the indie general on /vg/
they probably know about that kind of stuff
>>322239195
I've never even heard of butterscotch or cinnamon pie before this game.
>>322239146
The one on the right looks hotter anyway
>>322238329
All it says is that you have awful taste. Also, unless your game collection and knowledge of games can rival the amount of games listed on hardcoregaming.com, I doubt that you can compete with me, especially when that site has its limits as far as I'm concerned.
>>322241390
stay chill bro
>>322240002
well, it's both funny and fap material, who could've thought
>>322239345
>>322239576
>people shit on Golden Sun for this kinda lazy work but will defend this
>>322240479
Technically the human is the immigrant.
And if you talking about releasing the barrier in a sense it would be the monsters re-taking land that was originally theirs to begin with.
So the monsters in this allegory are what, native americans?
>>322241089
>There's no special moves, no weaknesses, no debuffs or buffs (that you can notice) or magic or anything.
Literally the whole point of the fucking ACT menu.
>>322239146
>>322235253
You know how autistic you have to to be too much of a faggot for the Undertale community?
>>322241089
>The battle system is bare bones as fuck, you just time your hits
I gotta disagree, the fights could have been much more interesting if they were designed like the Sans fight, but than people would be bitching that its too hard I guess
>>322240914
What makes the mechanic unnecessary? Its a defining part of the gameplay, and hugely important to the game given the boss gimmicks.
>>322241089
You've read >>322240191 and >>322240439?
The entire point of the posts is Undertale's battle system has potential for a competent dev to come along and flesh it out. Toby just laid down a framework. Given undertale's success it's possible there are better devs with more money, better sense of story-telling, better artists willing to make an actual jrpg-styled game using and making undertale's schmup/bullet-lite/JRPG battle system better. I can see a chrono trigger or final fantasy clone in the future using a bullet-hell system with actual debuffs and buffs, party members, special moves, weaknesses, magic and shit.
I actually wouldn't mind if 2D jRPGs took this direction, considering the only good modern menu-based JRPGs have mechanics that can only be done in 3D.
>>322233797
>this image exists
>people butthurt enough to post it every thread exist
>>322233297
If you think undertale even remotely resembles an rpgmaker game then you've never used rpgmaker.
>>322241985
Lots of images exist.
Some people can just never get over this for some reason.
>>322241780
ACT is just for fucking pacifist playthroughs
>>322233297
Okay, I'll explain more in depth then. Most RPGs generally advocate and encourage violence such as beating up random encounters, while Undertale goes in the opposite direction and preaches pacifism. Many of the enemies in the game are actually limited and disappear forever once you've killed them (my memory is fuzzy on this).
In terms of gameplay, a pacifist player does such things like flirting or talking with the enemies, which helps change their mood. Once they're peaceful, the player can spare them to end the battle, although they do not earn EXP (there's a good reason for this, but it's a spoiler). Alternatively, the player can just beat up everything like a regular RPG, and the enemy(ie)'s turn has them launch projectiles and such at the player's soul, which is usually represented by a tiny heart in a box.
I can't really explain more without spoilers, but later in the game a character called Sans reveals that EXP actually stands for Execution Points and that the game's HP, LOVE, stands for Love Of Violence, which is a pretty shocking reveal for the first time around.
If you have the money, pick the game up while it's still on sale and play a bit into the midway point. Undertale is the sort of game that is really hard to explain.
>>322241951
Because you can just get good armor and face tank the damage and healing when you get low.
>>322233297
>Im not richer having brought it
I just wish you could craft more badges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBF48hua1xw
>>322242094
You can alter the style of the enemies combat patters at will.
Can even trick some of them into healing you.
And in some cases can lower or raise an enemy's attack/defense.
How fucking bad at videogames do you have to be to be ignorant of this easy shit in THIS GAME?
>>322242102
>Most RPGs generally advocate and encourage violence such as beating up random encounters, while Undertale goes in the opposite direction and preaches pacifism.
>fighting in self defense is promoting violence
>>322242102
>undertale preaches pacifism
Not really senpai. Here's a comparison
>cow is standing in the middle of the road minding its own business but blocking your path
>most rpgs you would kill it, get exp and wear its magical cow hide of agility
>in undertale you have the option just to move the cow out of the way and proceed
>>322241089
the gameplay focuses more on your ability to dodge the hits. Other actions are limited to attacking and acting. I don't think it's too bad because the defense phase is pretty involved and you get a bunch of different attack patterns from enemies, enemies all attack at the same time, and many bosses throw on gimmicks that really change the game up into platformer or rhythm game or shump.
Its like if Mario and luigi RPGs expanded the defense phase a hell of alot but trades all special forms of attack for the act button.
>>322233797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHNSEQ8uC9s
>>322242368
>self defense
Do you crush every ant you see? The worst that happens to you is you get roughed up, you can't even die.
>>322242475
>Its like if Mario and luigi RPGs expanded the defense phase a hell of alot but trades all special forms of attack for the act button.
I was waiting for someone to point this out
good job
>>322233797
>Not part of the game
>Yet posted literally every time as if it represents Undertale
>>322241856
Not going to lie, baal makes one of the best toriels
>>322242540
>every monster is out to kill you and give your soul to Asgore to free themselves
>THEY WAS GOOD BOYS THEY DINDU NUFFIN
>>322237930
why is toriel a nazi
Rate this undertale oc (do not steal)
>>322242829
>>every monster is out to kill you
But that's wrong
>migosp
And nobody can kill you, so double wrong
>>322242872
>why is toriel a nazi
Makes her hotter I guess
>>322242690
Well, that's the trick. It doesn't represent the game, because /v/ doesn't give a shit about the game. It represents the ~community~ around undertale, the literal tumblrtale part of it. That's what /v/ hates, and that's what's so much fun to get mad at.
>>322242351
I'm not ignorant of it i'm just saying it's not necessary
If you're going genocide, you just brainlessly kill them
If you're going pure pacifist, you should try to end the encounter quickly
![[Grinding Intensifies].png](https://i.imgur.com/44iU6kY.png "[Grinding Intensifies].png")
>Pacifistfags trying to defend Monsters just because "Y-you can't stay dead, you're d-determined! Therefore y-you aren't allowed to kill anyone!"
You aren't even worth the EXP you give.
Might I also add that in the True Pacifist Ending, once Frisk dies, Flowey will acquire his powers again, allowing him to fuck everything up?
>>322243008
>but that's wrong
Okay, almost every monster, smartass
>nobody can kill you
They don't know that tho
>>322238162
god that creeped me the fuck out
undertale 7/10
>>322242164
I'm pretty sure atleast you have Temmy armor, letting a boss get all the hits in is going to have you sacrifice a lot of turns to healing. Asgore can still do decent damage even with the heart thing, the genocide bosses dont give a fuck. I'm positive you can just allow every single hit in the game without hordi g a shit ton of cash through the Temmie village.
>>322243008
>nobody can kill you
It's not like they fucking know that
>>322242872
>>322243141
>allowing him to fuck everything up?
But the whole point is that he comes to terms with being a soulless abomination and just kinda lets everything be you mong
>>322234232
Aren't there at least ten Barneyfag kind of posters running around 4chan nowadays?
>>322243203
I didn't even know about the temmie armor my first playthrough. i just used the weapon that increased i-frames after getting hit and the best armor i could buy normally since i sucked at dodging some of the later patterns and for some reason you can't remap the controls to wasd.
>>322242605
i guess you can't reflect most attacks in undertale, but counterattacking in the Dummy and Mettaton bosses was fun as hell.
>>322243304
>believing Flowey
>ever
I guess you really are an idiot.
>>322243120
Why even have combat at all in genocide?
Have physical representations of the monsters run around the levels while you chase them down and fucking knife them to bloody murder?
>>322242829
you kind of have to blame your ancestors for being extreme dicks to them and locking them underground where they had no way of telling wether or not modern man still wanted to make them suffer. Besides killing you was a valid method of finally getting out.
>>322233297
Steam Greenlight happened.
>>322243445
You didn't talk to Asriel did you
>>322235357
You missed the point by half the solar system.
>conveniently forgets when online services were free and level editors were free
>"it's okay when consoles do it"
That's some awful biased perspective you have there, friend.
>>322243389
there's a weapon that increase i-frames? I must have missed that one, which is it?
>>322243694
Asriel and Flowey aren't really the same person
Flowey doesn't have a sense of right and wrong like Asriel does when he has soul.
>>322243836
I believe you get it from the store in waterfall.
What happens to the six souls aftwr the Asriel fight? Did Asriel keep them? Did they just sort of disapper like Chara's soul after Asriel died?
>>322244081
his dick grew six times larger and with the power of humans he bred frisk
>>322243141
>once Frisk dies
He's a little kid and he has more determination than the flower. Both in biological and determination sources, Frisk should out live Flowey.
>>322233297
This is Game Maker, actually. But RPG Maker, and Game Maker sell commercial licenses to let you sell shit using their engine. While not anywhere near as prohibitively expensive as a one year commercial license for 3DS Max (last I checked I believe that runs up something like $6,500), the commercial license is still too much for some people to care.
If you really want an answer to your question from the community itself, OP, lower the price of the commercial license, then see how long the games stay free.
