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>it is a good game but a bad X game
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>it is a good game but a bad X game
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LITERALLY Super Paper Mario
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>>322130786
Have you played Anno 2205? Until yoi've played any anno game and then that abortion you have to grounds to cast aspersions.
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>>322130786
Play TPP.
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>>322130786
What is fallout 4/rpg?
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>>322130786
>if i greentext it in a new thread, I win the argument
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People like to say that about DmC, but it's tbqfh outclassed by it's predecessors, and majorly blow the fuck out by bayonetta.

I said that it would have done better if they kept the DMC gameplay, and made original characters. Then i realized Bayo had already done it, and done it better.

The only thing that DmC did right was the boss design on the news guy. Mundus was lame as fuck, and Vergin's fight wishes it was as good as DMC3.

Mediocre game, terrible [DMC] game.
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>>322130786
Starfox Adventures
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>>322130786
>every fallout after 2
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>>322131481
SFA isn't even a good game by adventure game standards. It's below-average in all points.
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>>322131609
fallout 3 isn't even a good game though
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Battlefront is a good Battlefield game but a bad Stars Wars: Battlefront game
Fallout 4 is a good Bethesda game but a bad Fallout game
Metal Gear Solid V is a good sequel to PW but a bad MGS game

Prove me wrong
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>>322131935
This Star Wars opinion is so wrong it belongs in reddit.
The rest are fine but you still should go to reddit anyways
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>>322131935
>not even a good battlefield game
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DMC 4 is a good game but a bad RTS game
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>>322130786
There's nothing wrong with that statement. If a new entry in an established franchise really changes it's core too much to where it starts to not feel exactly the same, but it's still a good game regardless, it works to explain it.

Skyward sword applies, the phantom pain, ect.
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>>322132117
Do you seriously think that the new Battlefront is on par with Battlefront II? Explain yourself before you shout "REDDDDDIT!!" like a retard again.

>>322132330
Meh, at least it didn't have as much launch issues as 4.
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>>322130906
>>322131162
>Le SPM hate meme
It obviously wasn't even the same genre as the first two games, and it was clearly better then SS
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>>322132982

>hate

You are actually retarded

There is no mention of hate anywhere
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>>322132982
>being so autistic that you can't tell people are praising it

You poor soul.
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>>322132982
It wasn't terrible, but it didn't have what made the other PMs GOAT, so it fits the OP

People try to say the same about SS but it's just plain shite
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>>322131935
There has been as many Bethesda Styled Fallout games and non-Bethesda styled games making Bethesda fallout the new standard of which fallout games should be judged.

So basically Fallout 2 is a good Black Isle Studio game, just not a good Fallout game.
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It's a valid criticism against games but it's used waaaay too often to basically dismantle a developer's attempt to change the formula.

See: Starfox Adventures.
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>>322130786
I hate that folks said this about Max Payne 3. It was a great game and the story was fine if not a bit melodramatic. Max had to move on, he couldn't just keep pouring bullets into NJ/NY mobsters. Gameplay, graphics, and music were all great. The gunplay was awesome and I loved no more magic pockets (emptying two uzis and rolling to pick up a shotgun and keep going feels so meaty) Plus dat beach ending
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>>322133253
Different continuities., Mila Jovovich does the movie RE, the games do the game RE. If you want to to the "this many games is canon" idea I can just point you to the star wars franchise,
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>>322133253
That's fucking retarded, there were 4 Paper Mario games. 2 didn't have the stage battles or real partners does that mean the first 2 are bad paper mario games?
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>>322133253
Can you clarify? Are you saying that since their are as many Bethesda Fallouts as Black Isle Fallouts that Bethesda is the standard now?
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>>322133373
Adventures is shit though
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>>322131481
>>322133373
>>322133913

Adventures is bad not because it's different from the other Star Foxes but it's just plain horrible.
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>>322133576
I thought MP3 was great. They're all great, but people don't realize noir isn't exclusive to a monochrome New York setting. Even then MP3 had its share of levels like the older games.
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le shig squig
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>>322134373
Agreed. Brazil was a nice escape for Max. Hot women, strong drinks, good views. From ghetto favelas (providing plenty of thugs to kill) to fancy clubs and upper class hotels/boats, it was a great playground for gunplay. They even had throwbacks to NY just for 1+2 purists.

>when that Health+ song kicks in at the airport
My god, I went completely beast mode.

In fairness, the worst parts of the game are; final boss, a few silly lines that were supposed to be serious (human glue) and some long loading sequences you have to watch several times (especially if you're doing challenges)
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>>322133750
Actually after looking at the facts I am more right.
There are 2 bethesda developed mainline games, 1 black isles, 1 obsidian and 1 interplay. Meaning that Bethesda is the standard because there are more.

If you want to look at it of the style of game, I would say New Vegas and 4 are just continuations of the style 3 set, and 2 is following the style set by 1, so by that logic there is 3 Fallout 3 style games and 2 Fallout 1 style games, making Fallout 3 the standard by which all fallout games should be judged by. Meaning that Fallout 1 and 2 are good games, just not good Fallout games.
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>>322135643
I disagree; I believe that style has nothing to do with it. I believe that in my case the judgment is based on developers; Obsidian is essentially the successor/continuation of Black Isle making New Vegas not a Bethesda game at all. Despite having a modified engine, their are a number of gameplay changes, a fantastically better story, and overall better dialogue; A hallmark for Black Isle games, not Bethesda.

Meaning, I feel that Fallout 4 is a good by my expectations for Bethesda (which are low) for other reasons but when compared to the overall series is a series more "one step forward two steps back"

But that's just the way I judge them. I feel New Vegas was truly a Black Isle game.
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>>322131830
I was about to say...

>>322130786
>>322132351
And then there's this part.

Resident Evil 4 was a good game, but terrible as a Survival Horror game. Especially once you got passed the Village.
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