>2013, Bioshock Infinite comes out
>Critics give it positively glowing praise, calling it the pinnacle of art in the medium, gaming's Citizen Kane, a game changer that will influence developers for generations
>Almost three years later
>Nobody is talking about it any more and most people agree it was a huge disappointment
What happened?
The cash stream dried up so the media went on to hyping the next thing. Public opinion took over, which was that it was playable but disappointing.
Nothing new.
Dunno maybe everyone played the previous games after that, and noticed how they were much better.
Because as time goes on you start to see the bad more than the good.
Video game critics don't actually play video games
It's a reminder that
/V/ IS ALWAYS RIGHT
>/v/ suddenly hates bioshock infinite
>>322119802
Trends die anon, get used to it.
Plus it's at best a decent game.
>>322120291
>/V/
>>322119802
>>322119802
it is by far the most garbage AAA game out there.
the story is a horrible pile of tryhard trash, which retcons itself multiple times before the end.
plasmids have no reason to exist this time around and can't be excused just because they come from a fucking bottle.
the gameplay is beyond mediocre and feels severely dated.
pretty visuals and a decent waifu for all those porn webms made in a valve movie maker are the only positives.
if i had to generous i'd say the soundtrack was 1>infinite>2
garbage game
>>322120619
Why is "over 20 lbs of pussy & ass" in every single one of these?
>>322120361
>suddenly
It's been hated since it was released and overpraised
Its gameplay is shit and contradicts itself.
its characters are one dimensional
its story is so retarded it writes itself into a corner twice and needs to keep going using a deus ex machina
people that praise bioshit infinite don't know what constitutes a good game or a good story.
>>322120361
>suddenly
REDDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
really though, it's fucking awful and there are plenty reviews on youtube dissecting it and pulling it to pieces to show you how fucking terrible it is.
>>322120662
>decent waifu for all those porn webms made in a valve movie maker are the only positives
agreed
>>322120719
"Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series" is still my favorite.
>>322120719
its an epic meme
>people actually awarded this their GOTY for it's respective year
>>322119802
Critics also said Dragon Age 2 was a good game anon.
>>322120739
This. I still remember the threads when the game launched. Most of /v/ hated it
QUANTUM
GHOST
NECROMANCER
MAGIC
MOM
>video games aren't art
>video games are made for profits first and foremost rather than artistic integrity
>video game players have a short attention span and are always waiting for the next AAA game
>the only games that remain memorable are ones that were innovative
>>322120719
It's the American way.
CITIZEN
KANE
Wasted Potential: The Video Game
It happened to be poorly written enough to trick stupid people into thinking it was smart, not to mention the "hype machine" is still pretty effective with marketing to them.
>CONSTANTS AND VARIABLES
Doesn't that contradict the entire concept of a multiverse? What's the fucking point of having a narrative about alternate universes if there are constants?
Any game that forces my character into being an absolute dumbfuck to progress the story is a garbage story.
>make the fatal mistake of trying to argue why this game isn't all that it seems to be on youtube
>"lel you dont understand the concept of time travel"
>"its about revolution and the blue collar working class"
>"its a good game and its fun, you're just jaded"
See this is why no matter how pissed off people on /v/ can make me get. Its not as bad as the alternative.
>>322121364
>"I wanted to tell a atory that makes me feel stupid. I have no concepts of tine travel so I will use that and make myself feel dumb"
Ken Levine everyone.
>>322119802
2K took the budget away from the developers and gave it to the reviewers. It's really the only explanation.
>>322121178
>It happened to be poorly written enough to trick stupid people into thinking it was smart
Ah yes, good 'ol patronizing pretentiousness, mixed with a healthy dose of insecurity, without actually giving any elaboration on made claims.
It was a good and entertaining story. It wasn't smarter or dumber then the rest of stories aimed at mainstream entertaining out there.
>>322120662
CONSTANTS AND VARIABLES NIGGA.
By definition, a game doesn't have a good story if its gameplay doesn't support it in any way.
Bioshock Infinite's story and gameplay are complete contrasts to one another, with the story ostensibly being artsy and complex while the gameplay is spent shooting wave after wave of bullet sponges 95% of the time. The vigors have nothing to do with the story and you don't really have any narrative reason to be mowing down absolutely everybody. When people praise Bioshock Infinite's story, they are praising it in spite of its gameplay, not because of it. If the two elements of the game are going to be so dissonant, then it might as well have just been a movie or a book.
>>322120662
>plasmids have no reason to exist this time around and can't be excused just because they come from a fucking bottle.
Did you forget that plasmids were literally sold in vending machines in the first game?
>>322121807
Are you this retarded? The game writes itself into a corner TWICE.
>>322121807
I want to refer to you the reddit AMA with ken levine. He stats that he wanted a story that would make him feel stupid.
>>322121857
>By definition, a game doesn't have a good story if its gameplay doesn't support it in any way.
Not even reading the rest of your post. 0/10.
>>322120973
>>322120739
It still looked like most of /v/ loved it,
but I'm realizing that EVERY time a huge game is released,
people who don't come to this board often flock here to circle jerk and hype up the new big game.
Sometimes they drown out the valid criticism with their circle jerking, but after about 3 months their games is always forgotten, and our criticisms are still just as valid.
>Fink's master plan was to make the guy who is kill on sight in the whole city his head of security
Brilliant writing Levine as always.
You can really tell that the Infinite we got was a rushed hackjob of a bunch of different setpieces from a myriad of different builds of the game crudely stapled together.
The best way to observe this is to notice how terrible all the transitions from one area to the next are
Nothing fits or meshes together properly. The most egregious example is Liz knocking you out with a single wrench blow for several hours after you have been tanking hits from mechanical gorillas all day
>>322121962
>very little actually liked it
Fixed that for ya.
Let's say they released the version of Infinite that we saw at E3 in 2016. Would you play it?
>>322121953
I'm honestly trying to find my screencap of it. Never around when I need it.
Did he actually say this?
<---
>>322122179
Yes, that one looked like it was supposed to be a good game.
>>322121961
I'm not him but sorry, you don't understand how different mediums work.
If it's a genuinely good story on paper but the gameplay is mindless trash, why didn't they write a book?
If a film has an interesting premise but has boring visuals and shit acting, it's shit. They should wrote a book, not a screenplay.
Most of the time the reason they put their "deep" stories into video games, is because they are immature and not actually writers. Wannabe writers in the gaming world.
Good gameplay should be the groundwork, and a story should be developed around that.
>>322121873
Rapture was a libertarian dystopia though, and Ryan needed some way to spread the mind control pheromones. Columbia is just patriotic as fuck.
>>322120291
Nah. Only a retard would listen to /v/.
>>322120361
/v/ was shitting over Infinite before the release date, when some anons got their hands on the pirate Xbox 360 version and realized how boring the game was.
>>322122240
Oh yes. I would post it but the image I had of it was on my previous phone.
>>322121873
>ADAM is an extremely rare and precious resource
>This is the entire reason Big Daddies/Little Sisters exist in the first place, to recycle it
>Fink is able to whip up unlimited batches of vigors without a single drop of ADAM
They should have kept the whole "Liz is the source of salts/vigors" plot point. I'm surprised they actually tried to rehash and reuse The Siphon when they removed the entire original purpose of it. Thus you have a setpiece that looks pretty but does literally nothing in the story.
>>322122116
What does this shit post even mean tho?
>>322122240
I can't wait for developers to remember they're making video games and not movies.
Myself and at least 5 friends bought this game yet no one has played it more than once, or even touched it since release.
They were too busy force feeding you waifu puree to make the gameplay enjoyable.
>>322122449
There we go.
>game set it the clouds has less atmosphere that previous titles
Iron really
>>322121807
>Good story
>With all those plot holes
>And an ending that doesn't work
Yeah no.
Some of the worst writing ever in a videogame. Total garbage filled with plotholes, shit characters, shit dialogue, and the gameplay is shit too.
>>322121807
>It wasn't smarter
But, it was.
Aww yeah, an Infinite thread.
>>322122830
Fuck off retard.
I liked the combat and atmosphere during fights, this game was one of the the few that I disagree on with the majority of /v/
Being released nearly at the same time as the last of us didn't help matters. Seeing how everyone forgot about Booker and Elizabeth the very moment Joel and Ellie's adventure hit the shelves was incredibly hilarious.
>>322119802
Still played on PS3 and bought it for PC in the sale for the DLC
>Critics give it positively glowing praise, calling it the pinnacle of art in the medium, gaming's Citizen Kane, a game changer that will influence developers for generations
>Almost three years later
>Nobody is talking about it any more and most people agree it was a huge disappointment
Same thing can be applied to all heavily marketed mainstream "meme" media.
>The Last Of Us
>Bioshit
>Breaking Bad
>Gravity
>Mad Max
>Skyrim
>everything Nolan has made
>>322122936
gunplay in infinite on par with half-life 2,which is inexcusable considering it released only a couple of years ago
atmosphere and visuals would get a pass for sure though
the story makes sense and is honestly pretty solid once you really grasp it especially with DLC
but the writers started sucking themselves off before the game even ended so it ended up being very pretentious too
>>322123110
stopped reading at "meme"
>>322123198
>The story is good due to DLC.
I see this every fucking time
that's not how it works.
>>322123110
Well, breaking bad was good
>>322119802
>What happened?
It's the same thing as TLOU and other 'story' heavy games that just get massively praised for non gameplay reasons.
After a few years people look back and ask in terms of innovation or difference, 'what did this game actually DO?' and there's nothing there.
>>322123345
It's popular = it's bad
>>322119802
I loved the shit out of that game, i have done everything possible in that game so i have no reason to go back, thus i do not speak about it anymore.
It has terrible replay value though.
>>322123198
>That fucking hideous retcon of Daisy Fitzroy in the DLC
Levine please. I know its a halfassed attempt to salvage a wasted character in the vanilla game but it just makes everything even more retarded.
The more they write to try and salvage it the worse it gets.
>>322123198
Anon, the DLC doesn't help the story either. Even so, people praised it as the Citizen Kane of games before the DLC was released, so we can't count it as part of the Citizen Kane of games title.
>>322119802
honestly I feel like even most of the journalist sphere even thinks they were wrong on this one, and that they got caught up in the hype
So, was the ghost mom ever explained? Some dimension shift, or something? Or did Levine expect us to accept his hackneyed sci-fi garbage just because he's Levine?
>>322123345
>Well, The Last Of Us was good
Here, now you can see how retarded you sound to people educated in the medium at hand.
>>322123328
did you miss the words "especially with" in my post
every thread
>>322123198
>Elizabeth is so fucking unbelievably amazing that she's responsible for Bioshock 1's events
What a great retcon
>>322123576
>implying it wasn't
Plot makes zero sense, it's not complicated or 2deep4me it just contradicts itself too much.
Anything that tries to involve time travel and multiple dimensions in the story and take it seriously will fall apart eventually. In this case it fell apart very quickly because it was written without any understanding of what "infinity" is.
Oh and there was a pointless plot about niggers and irish being second class citizens that doesn't go anywhere.
It would have been ok if it just kept it campy with quantum physics being magic, and ghosts coming from alternate dimensions. But instead they tried to take it seriously. Take out the racial angle and you could rework it into something fun, or take out the magic and focus more on the racial stuff. You can't have it both ways.
Gameplay is also horribly shit so that didn't help either.
I almost forgot this game existed.
>>322123367
>cinematic
I love, how even in this "try to be more like movies" world we're living in, that The Order didn't get away with this shit. It only sold because it was one of the only big releases the PS4 had at the time.
>>322123373
>products can't become memes
Suppose Undertale isn't "meme" either.
>>322119802
The Last of Us would have too if it weren't for the fact that it's an exclusive and therefore put up on a pedestal.
>>322123576
I dont see how can you compare the last of us to breaking bad.
>>322123770
The fact that it was a fundamentally solid game rather than a heap of shit held together by marketing "memes" didn't hurt either.
>>322123726
I'm not arguing over "meme status," I'm talking quality. If those mean the same thing to you, stop looking up definitions of words on 4chan.
>>322123625
This is one of my favorite /v/ pics of all time
>>322123565
A "mini-Siphon" was set up inside Lady Cornstarches grave and it "activates" and causes Liz's powers to "malfunction" and then Liz spits out a ghost for you to fight three times.
Ignoring the fact that the Siphon doesn't even do anything in the fucking first place.
Not to mention that after fighting the same damn boss three times in a row the ghost mom just blows up the fucking gate. The gate that was locked with a super advanced DNA-linked lock, where zero other DNA linked technologies exist in Columbia.
And considering that Booker is Cornstarch, that means that even Comstock himself is locked out of Comstock House based on the DNA scanner thing.
Brilliant writing, I know.
>>322123847
Both pedestrian product that seem impressive only to people without real sophistication about the medium. Both have a reputation build on memetics rather than the quality of the product itself.
God, this art-book are a brilliant look at how the game gave up trying to be clever and interesting.
Remember the previews talking about how smart and interactive Elizabeth was?
I stand by what I think, people that praise this game's story or claim that whoever didn't like it didn't "get it" know jack shit about well written fiction.
>>322119802
Why do you feel the need to start this thread multiple days in a row? /v/ hates this game, we get it.
Personally I like it. I bought the triple pack on Steam so I've re-played my way through all three. To me it's more about the atmosphere and while the story isn't particularly well thought out, it is definitely engrossing. Everybody knows it is a step down from the previous games, but I don't find it bad by any means.
every time I start to like this game again, this board makes me hate it
>>322123983
It wouldn't be impossible for something to be able to become "meme" unless it had a low ceiling of quality. What becomes popular is competently produced intentional mediocrity. It is capeshit. It is assassin's creed. Real quality alienates at least as many people as it pleases. It would be impossible for real quality to become "meme" on the scale of Skyrim, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Undertale, Bioshock Infinite.
You can't reach that scale of popularity without being bad.
>>322123627
>Elizabeth feels slightly guilty about intentionally horribly burning a Little Sister on her Comstock murderquest
>Dooms thousands of people in Rapture in order to set it up so that Jack can rescue a handful of Little Sisters in Bioshock 1 later
>Assuming of course that Jack gets the good ending
Are we supposed to think Liz is heroic or a decent person? Because Levine did the complete opposite of that.
>>322119802
The entire ending of the game only works if you believe that without the siphon Elizabeth is a magical time-space goddess who can merge timelines at will.
Otherwise Booker being drowned wouldn't make a difference.
>>322124156
>sophistication
>>322124446
>Allowing /v/ to influence you
Anon, please. Please.
/v/ hates the shit out of games I adore and I don't give a fuck.
>>322120719
it's an epic le maymay
>>322124428
>Personally I like it.
>Everybody knows it is a step down from the previous games, but I don't find it bad by any means.
>hurr, stop pointing out the flaws in a game I likeHoly shit these guys were disappointing too.
>>322124502
>Assuming of course that Jack gets the good ending
who the fuck gets the bad ending in that game, it's so stupid.
>>322119802
Ken levine is a hack that killed off his company due to his inflated ego.
Everyone took the bait. Well done.
Replace all mentions of "quantum mechanics" with "magic" and you'll quickly see how retarded everything in the story is.
>>322124502
>re we supposed to think Liz is heroic or a decent person?
>hurr protagonist has to be heroic and likeable
You're the type of pleb who watches Citizen Kane or Taxi Driver and then complains that they were bad because you disliked the protagonist
>>322124338
After working on the other side I can tell you how painful stuff like this is.
Concept artists paint a world in great detail, get the entire team excited.
Artists start making assets while the programmers create all kind of fun mechanics.
Designers create levels and tweak the mechanics to be fun.
Game gets better by the day.
Business and marketing gets brought in, deem parts of the game unnecesairy for the deadline, cut fun mechanics and substitute them with online multiplayer, shitty achievements and dlc possibilities.
Playtesting happens and the general populace is now so dumbed down that they no longer understand puzzles or complicated systems. More gets cut or dumbed down.
And now you have the final game... missing huge holes what made it exciting in the first place, made generic to appease the generic gamer and business folk.
>>322124734
>bait
>disliking a shit game is bait now
why are infinite fans so fucking pathetic?
>>322124781
Well anon, Levine wants make his daughterfu a likeable character, that's why he's asking.
>>322124449
You're a meme
>>322124781
Are you trying to imply that Bioshit Infinite is on the same level as Citizen Kane or Taxi Driver?
>people here think it's about bribery and not just impressionable normalshits who get swept up in hype
>>322124848
>a shit game
So autistic people say it's shit and neurotypical people say it's one of the best of the generation. Who are you supposed to believe, the socially well adjusted productive member of the society or the pedophile who sits in his basement all day crying while masturbating?
No one above a 6/10 in attractiveness has ever called this game bad.
>>322123937
>game
lmao
bioshock at least has some gameplay in it, TLOU is so story heavy that it can literally just be watched on youtube and you're not missing out on anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4QBSL4JGmc
>>322125030
Awful b8.
It was praised by retards like you.
>>322125018
No, but the principle is the same. Nothing wrong with an unsympathetic main character.
WAIT A MINUTE
>>322123198
>This game's DLC makes the story good
>>322121961
>"no reading comprehension" the post
>>322125030
>Why can't I hold all these fallacies?
>>322119802
Nobody knows what a good game is, they just circlejerk hard enough to fit in.
>>322125292
What did the bait taste like?
>>322125030
It really doesn't get more pathetic than Infinite fans. They know the game is irredeemable so they only reply with dumb fucking shit like this.
>>322125120
First playthrough took me 14 hours. So that's 9 hours of gameplay without the cutscenes and at least 5 hours not counting the ladder puzzles and talking while walking sections.
>>322125135
Of course there isn't. There is a lot more wrong with Bioshit Infinite than an unsympathetic character that is extremely poorly written though.
>>322125498
the movie blends important parts of the gameplay and cutscenes to make it complete
>>322122368
>games are art bullshit
no thanks
>>322125471
>They know the game is irredeemable
So said the hotpocket man. Shame that the people who liked Infinite will be the ones to pass on their genes and then share the game with their children and it will be remembered forever as a good game.
The "Infinite is bad" meme will die when you all kill yourselves at age 30.
is there still a bioshock general on /vg/
entry level waifu bait is a powerful force
Even when Bioshock 2 had a lineal approach similar to Infinite, it wasn't boring to play (that fucking drill) and, if you're one of those guys who care about feels and story, it did the father-daughter dynamic far better going as far as having different endings with her based on your actions.
>>322125697
0/10 b8. Apply yourself.
>>322125697
I think you're right. I'm 31 and I don't think Bioshock Infinite is bad.
I think it was just a boring, by--the-numbers shooter.
Eternal reminder that Black Ops 2 had more player involvement in the narrative and changing outcomes than Bioshock Infinite.
>Girl who spent her entire life locked up, never interacting with a single human being, whose only knowledge of the outside world comes from books and only social life is seeing a robot bird
>Looks like a 10/10 gorgeous Disney princess, has no social disabilities whatsoever, and immediately runs out into public joyously dancing and wanting to have fun with everybody
Why was she praised as well-written again?
>>322125498
length has nothing to do with good gameplay
>>322125898
>I think it was just a boring, by--the-numbers shooter.
And there is literally nothing wrong with that. Boring and by the numbers it what sells. You'd complain about a big mac because you miss the point.
>>322125697
>you're on the wrong side of history
>gamespot literally reviewed it a second time and gave it a 4/10
wow this is a new low for Infinite drones.
My favorite part of the game was where you go through an entire questline and jump to different timelines to get to a big pile of guns.
Only when you get to the pile of guns, Booker and Elizabeth go "how are we ever gonna move this big pile of metal?"
... And then they just jump to a timeline where you've already moved the pile of guns to the location you want. What the fuck was that about?
>>322126054
The gameplay in the last of us was "okay". It was entirely competent if uninteresting. Bioshock Infinite was genuinely bad. A step backwards from the first game even which was bad in the first place.
>>322120619
I would play this
>>322126149
It's called writing yourself into a corner and using a deus ex machina
>>322126018
Because she's cute and energetic. Many fall of that shit. She's the only good thing in the game, and that's only because of the influx of SFM porn out there now, not because she's written well.
>>322119802
People didn't like it when it came out either.
It was pretty, I'll give it that, but I've never felt like this much of a waste of money I couldn't even bring myself to beat this unfun game. At least it came with the original bioshock which was alright
I say this as someone who bought Battlefront and thinks it's a lot of fun
>>322124843
I guess this is why people was excited about crowdfunding, then people like Tim Schafer had to come fuck it up.
>>322121738
Yeah, time travel in real life is nothing like time travel in infinite.
>>322126149
>Hop in airship to escape Columbia.
>Thieves steal it and threaten you.
>Tell you to go get them guns and shiet.
>Don't just find another airship.
>Don't just go murdered the thieves.
>Implying you would ever fucking realistically jump into a rip in reality just to get some guns for some other assholes.
>the media lies and exaggerates for views
>how can this be?
>>322126149
this is honestly what broke me. Before then I could just believe that Booker and Elizabeth are complete idiots, but otherwise the story made sense.
After this I realized the writer himself was an idiot, and I lost all faith in it. The fact reviewers didn't pick on the countless plot holes this ridiculous event brought up makes me lose faith in humanity.
How could any sane individual play through this and not realize it's beyond idiotic and story-ruining? How braindead do you have to be?
>>322126484
>implying postive reviews get as many views as negative reviews
They do it because the jewish media pays them off to promote media that weakens the straight white male in the cultural eye.
>>322126627
Or a simpler explanation is that they're just populists who just tell the audience what they want to hear.
It's impossible to critique this game's story because every time you do, it's always "you just didn't get it".
Also, it's really fucking telling when people praise the game solely for its story and when someone says that they didn't like the game, people automatically assume they didn't get the story. What about disliking the game for its horrendous and repetitive gameplay?
>>322126952
The Witcher has horrendous, repetitive gameplay and everyone still praises it.
>>322126952
>he cares about gameplay in a 10/10 GOTY
Who /patientgamer/ here?
Who /backloggamer/ here?
Are there any mods that restore Elizabeth's bust to its E3 proportions?
>>322126952
That or people defend it because "it's a commentary against racism." Minerva's Den had more to say about racism more believably and in a much more satisfying manner than Infinite did.
>>322127098
But it has a simplistic story so neckbeards don't get confused and start flinging shit at it
>>322127316
But they do nothing with the racism angle.
It's just sort of there.
>>322119802
Video game critics are retards who think a pseudo intellectual plot makes a game art
>>322127316
>"it's a commentary against racism."
Mentioning something exists in the first act of your game and then completely dropping it doesn't count as commentary.
>>322127364
>implying Infinite's story is hard to "get"
>Implying there's anything to "get"
Every time.
>322127426
>t's just sort of there
Like life. Did you want Elizabeth to halt the action to talk you through a bunch of graphs and charts about black inferiority?
>>322126382
>Booker destroys an airship while on a multidimensional fetch quest to obtain an airship
Its like pottery
>>322127669
No, I wanted them to do something with the subjects they're bringing up instead of dropping them halfway through the game.
mentioning something is not a commentary on anything let alome a smart one.
>>322127561
>implying Infinite's story is hard to "get"
I wouldn't have thought it was hard to get either upon playing it, but the amount of autists who cry about imaginary plotholes speaks differently.
>>322127364
This.
Videogame neckbeards are braindead retards unable to understand anythimg more complex that "that guy is bad, kill him!". Anything with an extra layer makes them confused and angry.
>>322127845
> imaginary plotholes
>what's that?
>the key
>where did it come from
>it was always here, I just couldn't see it
10/10 writing.
Did anyone else have this experience with the game?
>beat game
>"that was really cool"
>time passes
>"that part was kind of weird now that I think of it"
>"that too"
>"what was the point of that?"
>"the gameplay was actually really annoying in retrospect"
>more time passes
>"God, what did I even like about this game again?"
>>322119802
> bioshock infinite
> citizen kane
great b8 m8
>>322127921
>neckbeards
Wait, I'm getting confused by how we characterize them now. I thought it was "normies" that were retarded and ate this shit up.
I would have liked Infinite more if Liz went through that tear to Paris she made while standing inside the machine that supposedly limits her powers.
Going through all that effort only for the damsel to immediately and permanently rescue herself, then the rest of the game is Booker trying to get the fuck out of Columbia any way he can. Then the game opens up and stops being a hallway.
Maybe theres a universe out there where Infinite isn't a shitty game
>>322128146
Cherrypicking, opinions and explained in-game: the post.
>>322128040
No. I went into it expecting it to surprise me later like Bioshock 2 did. Then I beat the game and realized that it was just a mediocre game all the way through that attempted a cheap emotional appeal at the end.
>>322128059
Aren't people still talking about and praising The Last of Us though?
The public did a complete 180 on Bioshock Infinite.
>>322126602
Same. How could anyone praise the story, if shit like that is PART OF THE FUCKING STORY?
Everyone and their mother kept praising Elizabeth and Booker's characters as well, which I just wrote off as personal taste. But the shitty writing extended further than just the script, the whole story reeks of bullshit and plotholes.
>>322128074
A neckbeard is just an ugly normie who can't get laid so instead masturbates to cartoons. They would not be prepared to spill blood for their cause like the white supremecist art elite of authentic 4chan, they just want pandered to.
>>322127845
>Liz mentions that she goes through tears all the time in her tower prison, but always returns to her prison because reasons
>Liz then explicitly mentions later during the Finktown section that when you go through a tear you can never return to the previous universe
>>322128302
Explain every single one of them then.
but seriously why didn't he cover his hand?
why is Elizabeth so contradictory as to say she's repulsed by you for killing people and giving you ammo in the next two minutes?
Why was she behaving like a social butterfly 1 hour after being locked up for 20 years?
why establishing infinite realities if you're going to limit their possibilities?
why going to get soke guns if they didn't know if they'd be able to carry them?
if dying in another universe makes you crazy and start glitching why isn't literally everyone crazy?
>tfw the Zero Escape series covered the same basic themes and plot that Bioshock Infinite attempted and did it a million times better, yet it got not even a tenth of the recognition Bioshock Infinite did
>>322119802
Except for you...
>>322128692
Only children and autistic people have gameboys.
>>322128692
Because that's a visual novel, not a genuine videogame. Also,
>>322128816
>>322128692
Because it was made by Japan, wasn't an FPS and didn't have contrived white guilt undertones.
>that one samefag who can't see his favorite turd getting (rightfully) criticised without calling people neckbeards
We all agree that the game is considerably worse than the first game but I do have to agree that the game is harder and that is a plus for me. But only because you have a limited usage of weapons, you can't horde items and enemies are even more bullet sponges than the Big Daddys.
The story was confusing as fuck even when they tried explaining it to you for the hundredth time but I wouldn't say the characters are bad. Booker clearly has a character development towards Elizabeth and Elizabeth herself is far from one directional. The Luteces were my favorite and they're supposed to be one directional but no one talks about them so whatever.
All in all, I'd rather play the first game but I wouldn't be a stranger to replaying Infinite.
>all that wasted potential with the Heavy Hitters
>>322128059
Notice how it says "out 14th June" meaning all of the scores have been already given before the game's release.
>>322129624
Review Copies exist. I'm not arguing over the quality, I'm stating that Review Copies are released early for certain sites so they can get their articles out early.
>>322125681
You didn't actually read the post, and you're a moron
>>322120719
cuz they have over 20 lbs of pussy & ass
>>322130014
Or the reviewers got paid in advance by a certain video game company.
>>322130267
I don't think that. TLOU reeks of "Oscar Bait: The Video Game" that panders to enough people's tastes that so many over-blow it.
Interesting concept that fell apart towards the end because ken obviously stopped giving a shit, hence the lazy shyamalan twist ending, which was fucking WEAK!
That plus it felt nothing like a Bioshock. No big daddies, no little sisters, splicers or whatever they were called didn't use vigors.
Plus Elizabeth being able to control time and space ripping open tears into other dimensions was kind of lame too.
Pretty much the only good thing about this game is that it spawned some hot rule 34 and that's about it.
