There is no time to be lost...BATTUL BROTHAS!!
BROTHA I AM PINNED HERE
>>322117016
BROTHA I WILL TAKE IT
BROTHA I AM HIT
AN EASY TARGET
FOR ME
BUMPING FOR THE EMPRAH
MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS, AND DEVASTATING DEFENSIVE DEEP STRIKES
BLESSED BE THE MIND TOO NARROW TO DOUBT
>I knew you would have need of me!
>How can I help?
>Shall I divine your next move?
Why are farseers so cute?
I FEAR NO FEAR FOR I AM FEAR INCARNATE
BEWARE OF THE XENOS, MUTANTS HERETICS AND CHAOS ABOMINATIONSor something like that I don't know man it's been ten years
>Get DoW II Retribution on steam sale
>Campaign is garbage
I just don't understand. The base game and the chaos ones were good, but this weird halfway point between 2 and 1 is just shit. Why would they do this?
>>322117117
NO
Can I play Ultimate Apocalypse with pirated DoW? Or does it need steam version or some shit?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VPMfObl.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>322120575
Because Relic were Eldarboos during Dawn of War.
>Waiting here is but a PHHHAAase of our existence.
>This world moves soOOoo slowly.
>We-e-e-e are shadowy death.
>We live to move.
>>322116861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbRGg3e1b68
>>322121037
People complained that the campaign was Space Marines only, and also had no purchasable squads.
Never mind that was the story that needed to be told or anything, or if having a core group of characters you care about matters, and good job telling difficulty to go fuck itself.
MY FACE IS MY SHIELD
>>322121305
It should work with pirated versions. I own it on Steam but used older pirated versions so I can use those guides that modify files to make DoW load faster.
>>322121037
download ELITE and play the multi, the multiplayer is pretty fucking great once you learn to play it
What the fuck happened to the voice acting in DoW2? It's like everyone's passion and fury fizzled out as more expansions came out.
>>322122145
Cause dow2 is lame compared to one in every way except graphics
>>322122145
retribution had shit phoned in voice acting even though they had literally the same fucking lines for some reason. just download the chaos rising voice mod it had god tier voice acting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUhr77e8Eho
>>322122145
Go tell that to This Guy
>>322122972
Some of the voice acting was good, but the majority of it was just boring and forgettable.
>SAY IT NOW, BEFORE THE CLEANSING BEGINS
>>322122145
Bernn, Castor and the chaos sorcerer were great.
>>322121492
>I loath to walk
My favorite
Anybody want to play some Ultimate Apocalypse?
>>322123343
>Ultimate Apocalypse
No thanks
>>322123589
oh god don't summon him anon
>>322123343
Boy, I sure look forward to building a maxed army and bombarding a single necron base for 4 hours.
>>322122145
>This voice acting
>Bad
Do not waste what the Emperor provides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMQRHHRY0yI
>>322124951
are the dow2 games really that bad?
>>322125195
They're a downgrade. They're more like Company of Heroes but with no base building.
>>322125195
Yes, they have garbage dumbed down gameplay, a fraction of the content of the first game, shit tone of jew DLC not to mention one of the games major selling points was tyranid but if you wanted to use them in last stand mode you were forced to buy the expansion to unlock something that was in the game and advertised as the original games selling point.
>>322125195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYXEdsTYGAk
I think they're ok, you should play it or see some videos to make your own opinion about it because it has a much different gameplay compared to the first DoW.
>>322125514
>>322125369
are they at least true to the 40k setting or did they also butcher that too like that 40k animated movie apparently did
>>322125195
no offline skirmish, also
>we want the Moba audience
>>322125848
>are they at least true to the 40k setting
Neither games are close to table top if thats what your asking, both DoW games follow a made up chapter for the game so they dont really shit on the established lore or canon too hard.
Dawn of War Franchise Pack worth 35 bucks?
>>322125195
They're different. A lot of people went in expecting an actual sequel and got something completely different.
It's not for everyone. I personally hated it.
>>322116861
Voice actror should have won awards.
>>322126579
i don't care about the tabletop too much, and apparently GW is already shitting on their own lore what with all the ret-cons are mary sue crap going on. Just want to know if the game does the 40k setting justice, is it a good representation of the 40k universe or is it like a C.S. Goto novel
>>322125195
They're not the same game. It's RTS for the first then RTT for the second. May as welll compare company of heroes and star craft.
>>322122145
>space nazis
This is my fetish.
>go back to DoW for a bit
>realizes the necrons shares SFX with turn X
the game becomes a 100 times more awesome after that.
>>322127203
Fuck you and your easy to fill fetish, Where;s my skittish hassidic foot loving prudish until enticed girls.
>>322127203
Early editions are your friend. Even the Orks used to use storm trooper regalia
>>322125195
the only good thing to come out of it is Last Stand.
and even then that gets old really fast.
How do you want your DoW 3? I want them to finally fix basebuilding by making it diverse as fuck, so everyone can have it their way.
>space marines just drop in from orbit, no bases or fortifications, however they can only create units in controlled territories(like in CoH)
>eldar hides webways throughout the map that they bring in units through
>imperial guard have traditional bases, shitloads of defensive options and are the best at reinforcing requisition points to grant extra resources(to make up for their poor map mobility)
>chaos similar to SM, but they also construct lots of icons and similar
>orks more traditional base as well, but they can air-drop in buildings from orbit
>necrons have no buildings except the monolith
>tau have large aircraft that they produce units from
>tyranids gradually make the entire map more tyrannoformed, doesn't start from a point and spread but just makes the entire map simultaneously more infected, littering the landscape with advantageous terrain features
and so on
>>322119567
CODEX ASTARTES NAMES THIS MANUVER AS
STEEL
RAIN
>>322127640
Fix the godawful pathfinding.
Fuck that shit pissed me off so much.
>>322127641
STEEHL REIGN?
>>322127640
That sounds awful
Commander Boreale. Ennemy forces in our perimeter.
>>322128143
why
i mean the individual ideas probably are shit but whats's wrong with the concept of diverse basebuilding(or rather the way you handle structures, unit creation, map control and tech trees)
surely can't be worse than the atrophied shit we got from dow 1 and 2
>>322127640
I want retribution but with more levels. BANEBLADE! isn't fun 6 times. It's barely fluff worthy in any iteration beyond the "Welp, lost a 100 of em" bulltshit. Novels have been written about the recovery of a single one.
>>322121037
DoW II is shit
Our enemies hide in METAL BAWKSES, DA KOWARDZ! TEH FEWLZ!!
We should take away their METAL BAWKSES!
>>322128719
Best worst acting hands down. You can tell the actors had a field day with their lines. I've said it before and I'll say it again the German plauge marine voice actor gets the phlegmatic cadence perfect. I think it's part of general German pronunciation however.
>>322125195
No.
The problem is simply that people wanted Dawn of War 2, but Dawn of War 2 is really another good take on Warhammer 40k in RTS form.
You can't blame either party, honestly.
Relic had already had enough of DoW and instead of milking its success made a good new game.
Players, however, simply wanted a sequel and DoW2 really isn't one.
>>322126131
>no offline skirmish,
Actually, they do have offline skirmish but the AI is pretty trash so much so I easily whipped its ass on hardest difficulty simply by going for the top unit.
>>322121037
i liked it
>mfw i get kicked out of a mp lobby for playing necrons
>>322131326
I thought they got "fixed". Is it old hurt or did i miss a memo.
![m3320400a_7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DBi98Py.jpg "m3320400a_7[1].jpg")
>>322131326
I want DoW 3 so I can play the newcrons
>>322131571
oh look, you managed to summon him
Orks>Everything else
>>322131890
>C'Tan shouldn't be controlling the Necron, they should be under their control and used like Pokemon
>The Flayed ones shouldn't have this interesting backstory, it should be just a computer virus put into them by a C'Tan for betraying it
>The Necron shouldn't be mindless machines. They should have unique personalities and forget about everything involving destroying the warp
>They also use the warp to travel now even though that goes against everything previously established about their view on it and their own FTL travel
FUCKING MATT WAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRD!!!!!
>>322132749
>necrons were tomb kings in space with all the personality of the tombg kings, but with no back story
>make them nobodies but retcon their special characters to be responsible for everything
>ward gives then character beyond "lol tomb kings"
WARRRRRRD!
I'm a smurf player and I can understand hating him for his smurf wank, I can understand hating him for his Grey Knights "ve are drago, ve crush you" bullshit, but hating on the crons having a backstory beyond "lol, recon enemy puppet" is good. It legitimized them as a faction beyond "robo skeletons booooo!" They had to revived from their 3rd ed roots which was just "swarm scarabs and win."
>>322133352
I'll take giving them characters as the old fluff said the higher ups in the army kept their minds and personalities, but why change everything else with their backstory? It was completely fine. For fuck sake their reasoning for going into stasis now wasn't because of the Enslavers wiping out most life but because they were afraid the Eldar were gonna beat them up after fucking over themselves when they defeated the C'tan. That's so fucking lame. Also heaven fucking forbid an army to have another objective other than "we wanna control the galaxy" because closing off the warp permanently is apparently too far out for a universe like 40k.
Does anyone know how to fix the menu size problem in DoW 1? The text is illegibly small on a wide screen
>>322134278
>why change everything else with their backstory?
What backstory? The only backstroy they had was the 3rd ed cron book which retconned in the C'tan as the route of EVERYTHING!
It shoved a knife into the already bad continuity and rewrote a lot of shit ot be "c;tan, don;t ask." and it was lazy as crap. 3rd ed gave them less page space than the sister's of battle, with it at least gave a tacitca advice section to. Sister were "rhino rush behind unit, immolator to force break, auto-break with tucked rhino wipes even a terminator unit so cheese auto break."
>>322125195
No they weren't, its more in line with the fluff.
Space marines don't build bases. Warhammer isn't starcraft.
>>322131326
Necrons are garbage tier, no one has ever kicked you out for playing crons stop talking out your ass, you probably dont even play online you casual shitter.
>>322136697
dumb frogposter
>>322136697
>necrons
>garbage tier
at least play the game
>>322137250
>Thinks necrons are anything but garbage tier
>Tells other people to play the game
lol
Let me guess "OMG NO RUSH 20 MIN"
>>322137250
This is how you spot a casual shitter who has no idea how to play the game.
I think I am the only person on /v/ that enjoyed DoW2 multiplayer
"Kauroova was a miss take" - Tarkos 40012
>>322137512
Which version you run and what army? You can throw shade but you need to defend it.
>>322136697
>>322137250
>>322137512
Crons are top 2 in DC, bottom garbage in SS, assuming we're talking about base game with official patches and 1v1 (without quick start). You're both correct - in a way.
>>322137936
>Crons are top 2 in DC
No they aren't, Crons are even weaker in DC than SS, the only thing they have going for them in DC is crash exploit leting them crash the game when they are losing.
1v1 Eldar vs Necron matchup in DC is 10-0 in Eldar favor and they can end the game in the first 2 min.
>>322127787
>select several units
>send them to new location
>thy spread out over half the map
>>322137925
I play SoB, they beat necrons pretty easy and its not even necrons worst match, I just rush with missionary and take points from necron base, kill scarabs so they can no longer build units then finish the game with seraphim's, warriors can contest seraphim's before T2 but they likely wont have more than 1 squad at that point making them pretty easy picked off.
If T2 hits celestians and GG.
Necrons have to work very hard not to drown in T1 they have the worst start in the whole game, meanwhile SoB are pretty strong early game.
FUCK YOU WHY DONT YOU PLAY FATAL I HATE YOU WHY DO YOU PLAY GAMES
>>322138874
>I play SoB
Nuff said. Cool.
>>322138874
>i play SoB
it fucking sucks that they're the worst army in the war game
>>322138215
I'm torn between convincing mods you're shitposting and announcing your retardation. I suppose I have to settle for the latter.
>Power Generators now add 25 power to their cost, not just 20
>First power research effect reduced to 25% from 33%, cost increased to 400 power from 300 power. Second power research cost increased to 600 power from 550 power.
>Critical Locations have been reduced from a 15% research/build bonus to 10%.
>Wraith damage reduced to 33-35 from 45-50
>Necron Warriors gain 75 health and 30% damage from their first upgrade (down from 95 and 35%), 50% health and 35% damage from the second (down from 60% and 35%). That's ~100 less health with both upgrades and ~4% less damage after the first upgrade. Research durations increased to 80 and 55 respectively (up from 30 s on both).
>Pariah reinforce time increased to 20 s from 10 s.
>Wailing Terror physical damage decreased to 170-210 from 200-250 and morale damage reduced to 85 from 100. LP3 morale damage increased to 25 from 0.05. LP3 add-on now requires Awakened Monolith add-on.
Those nerfs gutted Crons while only buffing Flayed Ones and giving Cron Lord extra HP in T2, which was badly needed, while also rebalancing his artefacts.
So in general:
>pic related
And no, your shitposting won't make me reinstall the game just to skullfuck you and prove a point once and for all.
>>322140462
>Conveniently leaving out the huge wave of buffs they got from DC to SS
0/10
You are garbage and you dont know shit about DoW, stop talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPmn_Fn41sI
>>322140462
>* Flayed Ones become more durable with monolith upgrades. Every addon built adds 150 to their health
>* Flayed Ones damage against building_low increased by 60%
>* Flayed Ones teleport recharge decreased to 75 s from 120 s
>* The Necron Lord now gains 450 health with each monolith upgrade that has been built
>* Phylactery ranged damage reduction increased to 60% from 50%
>* Tomb Spyders have 3000 HP (up from 2700 HP)
>* Immortals health increased to 450 from 400
>* Immortals can now using Summoning, same properties as Necron Warriors/old Flayed Ones.
>* Lord Destroyer health increased to 1750 from 1250. Possession casting time decreased to 6 s from 8 s.
>* Heavy Destroyer piercing increased against buildings low/med/high to 50/35/20 from 35.4/20.5/20
>>322140462
Build times and cost was increased in SS across the board for all races, meanwhile necrons got much needed buffs in many areas.
The underlying problem for necrons remains in both games however, they are slow as shit to start and have zero early game presence.
Its pretty obvious the only time you have played against another human player is when you agree to "no rushing" like a scrub.
Please stop pretending you know how to play the game its embarrassing.
>>322121150
BROTHER I WILL TAKE IT
>>322142401
>>322142313
You keep bringing up poor early game as a reason why necrons suck. It seems you got rushed too many times as crons and can't defend from it, which si why you pretend they suck.
>>322142887
Go back to playing against AI easy and let the adults do the talking.
>>322143810
You talk big, can you back it up? Gib name
>>322120894
BEWARE THE MUTANT, THE XENO, THE HERETIC
DoW 1v1 Tier list
>Top Tier:
Eldar, Tau
>High Tier:
Chaos, Ork, Dark Eldar
>Mid Tier:
Sisters of Battle, Space Marines, Imperial Guard
>Low Tier:
Necrons
>>322144209
Heretic Finder General
Lets see you try and get out of T1 with necrons.
>>322144209
>>322144734
Rooms up
Room/Player name: Heretic Finder General
pass is: vidya
1v1
map: Battle Marshes
waiting...
>>322125195
It had its moments . Speeches were pretty neat. Music was an upgrade!
Spoiler warning possibly?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4DtJFUPOApM
The music score was pretty well done, it gets the blood pumping when your deep in combat struggling.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F8jfummMOYQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLA8C3EBCB072172D9¶ms=OAFIAVgC&v=3AR5S3AIgjw&mode=NORMAL
>>322145221
What a surprise, the necron scrub is a no show.
Please dont mouth off and pretend to know how to play the game if you are just going to pussy out.
Like I said necrons are garbage.
Going back to playing the game with people who actually play now.
>>322127640
I like it.
It would be hellish to balance for multiplayer, but it would be the most innovative RTS ever.
