Can we have a DOOM series thread and maybe talk about how the new game may or may not harm the series?
>>322071914
The new game looks terrible.
>multiplayer is ripped straight from halo
>slow af gameplay
>enemies literally glow and "press x to kill"
>disgusting COD color pallet
>shitty level editor that will most likely be broken at launch
>>322072249
I couldnt stand the artstyle, like, holy fuck, why would you make Doomguy look like Master Chief?
>>322072392
because $$$
>>322071914
>Carmack is gone
>Nobody left is pushing TECHNOLOGY
The braindrain at id is really take its toll.
Doom64 is the best doom
>>322072639
No, but its the real doom 2. Doom 2 is more like doom 1.5 and doom 64 is doom 2
Who in their right mind is expecting the upcoming DOOM to be good?
>bland brown and gray world
>realistic movement speed
>PRESS X TO EXECUTE DEMON
It's gonna be shit, it has NONE of the game design philosophy of the good games.
>>322071914
I doubt new Doom will "harm" the series any more than Doom 3 did, which is very little to not at all. It'll probably be at least "okay" and the originals will always be there.
>>322072618
He said the last thing he worked on was Snap Map, so hopefully he had enough time with it to make it awesome.
>>322072908
People who liked Doom 3?, i saw articles about the game and it annoys me how people think fatalities are a Doom thing.
>>322072618
Carmack only really did TECHNOLOGY behind the scenes in the later years. It's very interesting to read about, but it means little for the players apart from performance.
>>322073070
Nah, even doom 3 was acceptable compared to this. At least doom 3 had a great atmosphere and stood up on its own. This piece of trash looks irredeemable
>>322073163
Why not allow actual modding from the game if they wanted to celebrate the modding scene?
>>322073778
to appeal to mainstream. Do you really think your average dudebro knows how to mod his own doom map?
>>322073778
>celebrate the modding scene?
Celebrate in the token sense at best.
Allowing real modding would mean they wouldn't be able to sell you overpriced DLC.
atleast D3 had like reflections ad lighting effects, this new game however makes everything look yellowish.
Wasnt the first DOOM released at a time where DOS games had like a limitation of colors?
>>322073952
DooM 3 had fully dynamic lighting. It was really advanced for the time.
>>322073946
>Game maker with limited tools
>Selling additional tools as DLC
Are they trying to appeal the new DOOM to LBP fans?, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?
>>322073778
Marty Stratton says they (id) still wants to release the modding tools. Pete Hines says SnapMap will be it for modding. Who knows how that'll end up, hopefully id comes out on top.
>>322074102
No DLC has been announced or even hinted at. They haven't said they'd be doing any.
>>322074096
Yep, Doom 3 was the Crysis of the early 2000s
>>322074405
>No DLC
It's a modern game; DLC is pretty much confirmed
>>322071914
new game looks like crap, literally when enemies die they explode into piles of ammunition and health supplies....
fucking fail!
>>322074610
Remember when Mortal Kombat had like a Mario Kart minigame? i wish DOOM did that kinda stuff
Doom 4 should be a huge wad
>>322074990
You got it backwards, anon, doom 4 should be able to load wads
>>322073778
>>322073946
>>322073929
>>322074102
talking about being mouth breathing retard.
80% sure they will allow it.
it's a bethesda product and they want the old community. They released the rage dev kit before. Nobody use it because it is 50gb not counting the game and no documents.
Doom wont be jewed as hard as fo or tes.
>>322073952
>>322074096
id Tech 6 which new Doom uses went back to the dynamic lighting system. They said they didn't want the prebaked style used in Rage, they felt the dynamic was necessary for Doom.
The "yellow filter" people refer to is just a result of the lighting in the level. Go back and watch parts of the foundry demo and look at some of the screenshots they've released, there are areas that don't have any yellow at all. They really need to show off more video of the singleplayer.
What is the point of having perfect graphics in a game like Doom where you're supposed to face dozens of enemies in screen?
The Doom 3 expansion was actually really good.
It should've been the base game honestly.
>>322075545
link? everything ive seen is yellow as fuck. ive only seen the hell level and the generic industrial level from e3
>>322076203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljpBwguIqos
The Plasma Rifle section starting at 4:00 is more of a teal-gray. The Hologram/Tech Arm section right after uses cooler colors like blue. At 8:58 they show off a multiplayer map with strong, bright blues. During the SnapMap segment at 10:41 there's more cool grays and 10:47 there are dark blues.
The screenshots I referred to are these, which show one Hell level that hasn't been shown yet and one part of another level (possibly a section of the Foundry) that hasn't been shown yet.
>everything ive seen is yellow as fuck
It doesn't help that the only two levels they've shown in motion are a foundry filled with glowing molten metal and a Hell level with a bright yellow sky. There's clearly more colors in their palette than they've shown but they're really hurting themselves by not showing more video of those areas.
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Id_Anthology
John Romero is a total bro
>>322077614
>tfw
>>322072392
Because they were up against Halo 2 and the last Doom game was a decade old. It's not exactly a Layton puzzle here, anon.
>>322078024
You got any more rare Romeros?
>>322071914
fuck you Alex :^)
>>322078831
In 2000 there was a hoax claiming Romero had been killed after the release of Daikatana and this pic was spread everywhere
>>322079198
That's fucking great
>>322071914
I think the new game will be okay.
>>322071914
False flag
Hope they have alotta secrets in Doom 4 like 1&2
>doom
>>322072908
the world isn't brown and grey, movement isn't realistic
i like the idea of the executions
>>322074610
false flag
>>322077614
>wikia
it looks. just ok i guess
multiplayer is fucked you can tell from the alpha they've taken it in a completely retarded direction
hopefuly the singleplayer will go back to the original single level formula but i doubt it
also the snap map and co-op stuff is neat but doesn't hold a candle to a real level editor even doombuilder is more advanced
>spent my childhood playing Doom
>discovered the doom community later on
>source ports, megawads, everything
>played it to no end
>started modding it myself with maps and scripts
>even got a map into a community project
>Doom 4 announced
>looks like shit(no really, look at hell)
>plays like shit
>modding tools have a chance of being shit
I feel utter crushing disappointment whenever I see more gameplay of it. Damn it, it was so simple not to fuck up but you did it anyway. I'd have preferred a Doom 3 2.0 instead of what's coming!
>>322082821
It's Doom in name only
Why do you even care?
>>322082821
>it was so simple not to fuck up
right? the only thing that can redeem it is have a classic mode where you can play it with 1:1 classic doom gameplay/hud etc
>>322082259
I think MP is alright. It's not Quake, and that's fine.
>>322082821
>I'd have preferred a Doom 3 2.0 instead of what's coming!
I disagree so fucking hard
>>322079345
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT PROTO PALE FIT HNGGG
>>322082821
>I'd have preferred a Doom 3 2.0 instead of what's coming!
How so? What is it about Doom 3 that you prefer over what they've shown of Doom 4, or what is it of 4 that is so bad you'd take 3 again? I'm just curious how someone who says they love 1/2 could prefer almost anything of 3 over 4.
Don't get me wrong, I liked Doom 3 for what it was and I don't like many of the things they've shown of 4 but at the very least the gameplay of Doom 4 looks much closer to 1/2 than 3 ever was.
