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>Did I miss threads about this gem?
>Best single player shooter Ive played since Halo 1
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>>322063928
it was pretty good. I complete more than a half of the game running and obliterating shit with dual rifles. Fun
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>>322063928
its a fun game but

>best single player shooter ive played since halo 1

my favorite shooter is the one where you stick a gun in your mouth and shoot yourself
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>>322063928
S'okay. Fast enough. Not quite as good as RTCW, which is probably why I prefer the Rise of the Triads and Shadow Warrior remakes over it.

>since Halo 1
Halo has always been hyper-slow bullshit, fuck yourself.
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learn2greentext newfag
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>>322066189

Oh hush. Halo:CE had fantastic and at the time unique flow to its combat. Finishing the game on Legendary was a feat, even on the PC version.

Halo was the first time I ever felt like the internet tricked me, by telling me how bad it was, finally getting the opportunity to play it myself with low expectations, and realizing how great of a game it actually was.
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>>322063928
I thought it was kinda shitty, maybe a step above Call of Duty. I've just learned to accept that single player shooters are a lost art.
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>>322066921
i dont care if halo ce was good or not, fact is that youre trying to imply that between the years of 2001 and 2014, there was not a single better fps than halo until wolfenstein tno

you are wrong

faggot
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>>322066921
>Halo was the first time I ever felt like the internet tricked me.

Second time, actually, come to think of it. The first was the triforce hunt in Zelda 64. Presumably I didn't learn my lesson.
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>>322066921
>and at the time unique flow
They took Quake and slowed it down to a fucking crawl and called it GOTY. Fuck yourself.
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It was kind of shit.
>Like that gunplay? Too bad, because we're going to force filler bullshit on you for a good quarter of the game. Hope you like fetch quests!
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>>322067250
>i dont care if halo ce was good or not, fact is that youre trying to imply that between the years of 2001 and 2014, there was not a single better fps than halo until wolfenstein tno

I'm not the OP you idiot. Calm your tits.

Though in his defense, if you're asking me, the list of truly great traditional FPS's released in that timeframe is pretty short.

- Halo 2 and 3
- Call of Duty 4
- Team Fortress 2
- Not Doom 3
- Not Half Life 2
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>>322068225
consider suicide
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>>322067620

No, fuck YOU. Not every FPS game needs to be a hyper-fast bloodbath.

And I don't get why people hold Quake up on some pedestal. I spent many sleepless nights playing NetQuake and Quakeworld online, but looking back it was the novelty of playing a video game online was what hooked me, Quake FFA was fucking garbage, and the skill floor for duel and TDM was so steep that only autists could keep up. Doom was a superior game in pretty much every aspect.
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>>322068851
Ok list some better fps you contrarian piece of shit, jesus christ.
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I just played it for the first time, too. I loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CDo9dywUY
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>>322067250

This nigger.

Wolf was bretty gud but 13 years and nothing you liked in-between?

You need to stop buying only one game a year, brah.
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>>322069080
Doom went to shit after the the Mars campaign, Apogee games had the better 2.5D shooters. But I do agree that 2.5D shooters are better than 3D shooters.

The modern FPS is not fun. You talk of the novelty of Quake as if this modern, Halo/COD/Medal of Honour bullshit fest of slowly drifting across the stage lining up your crosshairs doesn't wear out its novelty faster than the trousers of a fat man at an underground rave. They took the most fun genre of them all and slowed it down to a fucking crawl in the name of realism and appealing to kids.

How these boring fucking games got so incredibly popular is beyond me. Don't expect me to condone your taste, I consider you part of the problem.
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I got bored and quit 15 mins in.

Whats so good about it?
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>>322068851

Doom 3 was a mediocre horror game backed by mediocre shooting mechanics. Half Life 2 relied way too much on gimmicks and had too little actual gunplay. Both games were vastly inferior to their predecessors, which both came out before 2001.

Also, there were also a bunch of highly-rated WW2 FPS games in the first half of that time frame too I guess, but I hated WW2 so I never could get into them.

What else. Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a fucking fantastic game, but more of an FPS/RPG hybrid, so I didn't consider it in the same category. Portal 1 and 2 were similarly disqualified for being puzzle games, fantastic as they were.
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timesplitters 2
hl2 (yes, fuck you, faggot)
l4d
metro 2033 and last light
bioshock
deus ex: human rev
far cry 2 and 3
f.e.a.r.
mirrors edge
crysis
rtcw

literally pick any
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>>322069872
>mirrors edge
Good platformer, terrible shooter.
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>>322063928
Fergus > Wyatt
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>>322069760
Pretty much everything.
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>>322069939
i enjoyed the mix of free form parkour and shooting. i think it was cool to bash a guy's head in, grab his gun, blow his friend away, and keep running.

it qualifies as an fps.
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>>322069974
>tfw people miss this if they let Wyatt live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uftPWywqY
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>>322069698
>my opinion is the absolute truth
Yours and everyone else's buddy
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>>322069872
maybe
no
no
no
maybe
yes
no
maybe
no
no
no

Bulletstorm was really good too
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>>322070169
>Not picking rtcw
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>>322069381
>those comments
Good goys!
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>>322070169
>Bulletstorm was really good too

top wew
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>>322070169
>hl2 is bad
>bulletstorm is good

you are a living meme
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> Wolfenstein TNO
> good


It's marginally better than CoD but it does absolutely nothing that hasn't been done by any <2006 shooter


sometimes not even graphics
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Who are you quoting faggot?
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>>322068225
>No F.E.A.R.
>No Stalker
>No Quake 4
>No UT
>No HL2 Episode 1/2
>No Serious Sam.
JUST
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT
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>>322070892
>quality of a game is determined by how unique it is

go play undertale, faggot
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>>322071042
>>No Quake 4

there's people who liked it?
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>Turn up difficulty
>Everything turns into more of a bullet sponge than it was before
>Boring 2D sections are sprinkled in for "muh nostalgia"
>Stealth is hot garbage, even compared to Fallout 4
>"Moldy concrete" meme
>Secret Jew cave is only used as a boring macguffin
>Graphics are choppy, AMD cards are fucked, V-sync is forever broken
>prequel is mediocre

What's to like again?
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>>322071330
>That stroggification scene
Get the fuck outta here if you didn't think that was cool as shit.
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>>322071482
>'muh'

No
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>>322071623
great argument
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>>322071498

too bad nothing else was worth talking about
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>>322071762
better than yours
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>>322071330

Hi, Peru.
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>>322063928
So who else thought the game was boring as shit?
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>>322063928
It's a reminder of when fps games had a fun singleplayer
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>>322071824
The breakout scene. The enemies were well designed. The graphics at the time were quite nice. The guns felt heavier compared to Doom 3 as well. Dat nailgun man.
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>>322063928
>since Halo 1
Are you implying Copy Pasted Rooms: The Game: Featuring the Library was good?
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>>322071138
>I love rehashes
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>>322069698
>Doom went to shit after the the Mars campaign, Apogee games had the better 2.5D shooters.

Rose colored glasses.

Knee Deep in the Dead was a fantastic set of nine levels, but most people forget how many bad levels there were in Shores of Hell and especially Inferno. Doom 2 was definitely uneven, but it added so many great monsters and the SSG is one of the top five weapons in FPS games ever. Plus Doom 2 is the game everybody mods anyway. Final Doom was no slouch either, the TNT episode was kinda meh, but Plutonia Experiment was even better than Doom 2 and was tough as nails to boot.

Blake Stone...the less said about that game the better.

I remembered Rise of the Triad being fun as hell at the time, but coming back to the game years later reveals some serious issues - tons of hitscanners, not enough health in general, lots of shoddy level design and reliance on gimmicks (half the levels seem like the mappers got bored in TED and tried making some cool looking shape), unfun weapon balance (lots of fun weapons, but you only get a few shots of them before you get stuck with the sucky SMG), terrible bosses. Game still oozes personality though, and the music is still A++ tier, so I'll give it that.
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>>322066189
I dont like the day z standalone
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>>322072020
>quality of a game is determined by how unique it is

go play undertale, faggot
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>>322071824

what's this picture from?
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Is it still hardlocked to 60? Also doesnt it have shitload of cutscenes? I mean.. How can you call it a good game...
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>>322072189
Who implied that, fag? Go play your mediocre game, child
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>>322070091

Meh, I liked the scene with the autistic math bitch better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxJBUa7mtzo
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>>322070091
But J happens in Wyatt's timeline. Fergus has that Tesla chick.
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>>322071498

If you're going to reference something, at lease fucking post it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJwyjWpP4XA
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>>322071138

I should have specified that it does nothing that hasn't been done better by games from 2006 and down
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Old Blood is better.
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>>322072001

>Doom 3 guns.

I don't think a fucking MIT think-tank could have designed more sissy feeling, pathetic sounding weapons.

Oh and the whole flashlight OR weapon out felt so fucking pathetically artificial horror/suspense inducing it made me want to vomit.
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>>322073118
Yea I instantly got a mod to 'tape a flashlight to all your guns'.
Made the game much more bearable.
I still liked the whole PDA part of the game.
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>>322072049

Blood is the greatest FPS of all time.

Followed by Shadow Warrior.

Then Duke 3D.

Fight me niggers.
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>>322071042
>>No F.E.A.R.
Fair point, only as long as you're talking about just the original though.

>>No Stalker
I've bounced off of this game, but I actually feel bad about not being able to enjoy it, so I'll give you that.

>>No Quake 4
Bad Game.

>>No UT
Sorry, but the good UT came out in 1999.

>>No HL2 Episode 1/2
Had the same reliance on gimmick issues that HL2 had.

>>No Serious Sam.
Boring environments, and Serious Sam's movement speed is way too slow. Also, his wannabe Duke Nukem schick is lame as hell.
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>>322073237
Man, I love BLOOD a bit to much but even I can admit there's to much hitscan.
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>>322068225
Nigga there are two fucking games in Metro series already.
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>>322073237
>tfw no Blood source port
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>>322073829

Yeah but I think Blood had it all and executed it almost to perfection.

Caleb oozed character and was a great anti-hero.
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>>322071482
How the fuck is moldy concrete a meme.
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>>322067193
>define a good singleplayer shooter
story was good, dual-wielding was fun.
>nothing will ever live up to doom/quake level again
>once you accept this singleplayer shooters are fun again
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>>322074032

>MFW no Blood Source port.

But honestly, I feel like there's no one who would do it justice.

It'd be like going back and fucking with the original Star Wars movies with CGI and modern effects.

Your intention is to make it better but in doing so fail to capture what made the original so good in the first place.

I own it on GOG and I play it every few months.
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>>322069872
>mirror's edge is an FPS
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>>322071482

The Jew Cave wasn't even MacGuffin-tier worthy.

Just a stupid as fuck forced plot device.
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>>322068225
bate.
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>>322074376

Forgot my >MFW picture
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>>322074452
is it in first person

do you shoot guns

final question

do you shoot guns in first person
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>>322072361
>not going down in a blaze of FREEDOM
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>>322063928
Do you know what greentext is for?
Holy fuck, lurk moar.
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>>322074721
>avatar shit

die
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>>322074673
wut movie
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>>322074763

>A blaze of freedom that does nothing.

At least the math autist killed 11 that day. 7 previously and another 2 before she was gunned down.

She surpassed the minimum requirements of 19 kills each her own model, like a Boss.

Also, Max Hass was SO cash.

I like whichever timeline makes you not get along with the former Nazi guy who treats Max like his son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGxXm3q85U
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>>322074985
It's a reaction image you nignog.

>>322074452
>Perspective is from the first-person
>Player can pick up guns and then shoot them
>This shooting occurs while in the first-person perspective

Might not be the main genre, but Mirror's Edge is certainly an FPS.
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>>322074985
>avatar shit

what the fuck are you on about.

another question, why havent you killed yourself yet
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>>322074376
You seem to overestimate what a straight source port would actually do to the game. No one needs to do anything other than port it to an enhanced Build engine the same way EDuke32 did it for DN3D, and any CGI allegories would only happen once people started doing mods for it the same way they did it with Duke+ and co.

You can't argue that the game aged 100% perfectly, because at the very least, the mouselook suffers from all the same problems every other Build game faced when it came to perspective and accuracy
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>>322075403
By that logic portal is an FPS.
And in terms of categorisation you can see why generalisations like "if you get a gun and its first person then it's a first person shooter" are regarded. For reference, mirrors edge is a first person platformer.
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>>322071482
>enemies can take more damage on higher difficulty :'(

Unless you shoot them in the head.

>boring 2d nostalgia bits

Are brief, semi-hidden and entirely optional.

>stealth sucks

Not really, just slow. Its not broken or inscrutable like trillions of other games.

>AMD cards are fucked

Not the game's fault the shills on /g/ managed to dupe you.

>concrete meme

...what? You mean the fact that they bothered to foreshadow a central plot element? It's a meme because they didn't shout it at you last second as you zipline from a chopper?

>macguffin

>>/tvtropes/
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>>322076036
>Not really, just slow. Its not broken or inscrutable like trillions of other games.


Why do you hurt us with your lies?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPhT4l8eEjI
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/271290/

What does /v/ think of Hawken?
I'm taking advantage of this warfare
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>>322075901
The point isn't what the -main- designation of the game is, Portal is a puzzler, Mirrors edge a platformer, but rather a secondary designation from lighter elements present in the game.
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>>322076365
9/10 combat
10/10 deadness
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>>322076365
Ain't it dead as fuck
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>>322076495
>>322076519
>It's a dead game.

Why do the best games end up having dead communities while meme games like Warframe live?
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>>322072670
It should have been, but it wasn't nearly brutal/gory enough. I wanted entrails and all. Irritated me really.
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>>322074143
I've seen some webms and the game looks pretty sweet. How's it compare to DOOM2 and DOOK3D?
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>>322077254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RluZuxrIh7A

Shit is SO cash.
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>>322076365
>>322076495
>>322076519
>>322076670

I saw this game, is it truly good? It looks fucking cool.
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>>322076036
>Unless you shoot them in the head.
But that's wrong. They still take bullets like a sponge, even if it's a few less.

>Now really, just slow.

It's stealth, bro

>Its not broken

But it is. Have you played this game? It was an afterthought at best

>Not the game's fault

Again, but it is http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Wolfenstein:_The_New_Order

>bothered to foreshadow

what
>linking /tv/

Macguffins are worse in video games
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>>322078569
I caught it at the tail end of its dying breath.

Had a fuckload of fun with it, I was MVPing most matches after a couple of rounds. Gameplay was very methodical and very tenuous, you didnt want to push too hard and make yourself vulnerable but you wanted to keep your enemy close enough to finish them off and prevent escape.

There wasnt a lot of weapon variety, the same ones would frequently show up on lots of different mechs. The chassis and their special ability tended to provide the diversity and it had a very big impact on how you had to play.

Sadly, even with consolidated servers and new ownership, Hawken is down to a handful of players.

Its free to download tho, if you dont mind sparse servers and long MM times give it a look.

I'll always remember it fondly, just dont ask for the meme consensus on /v/ which is usually "the devs promised 20 vs 20 global domination campaigns and 50 button minimum hardcore simulation, glad its fucking dead"
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>>322080431

Installing as we speak.

Remember that game with huge fucking controller with a million buttons and the eject button that had a cover on it?

Ring of Red

Xenogears

Titanfall

Man, giant robots are so cash.
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>>322082223
Steel Battalion? Wanted that game so badly as a kid. When I heard there was a dedicated button for wipers (and you would need to know it too) my autistic Uziel-fetishizing ass was smitten with the idea.

But now as an adult it looks to be $150 for 6 hours of entertainment, which is a damn shame because Id love to see another dev go out on a limb and attempt to make mechsims srs bzns again.
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TNO is pretty neat. You kill Nazis in it. You kill Nazis in WWII, the 60s, underwater, and on the moon. There's also robot nazis. And you beat them with golden Jewish WMDs.

About all I can ask for in a Wolfenstein game.

A little light on the secrets though.
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>>322068225
>Not Half Life 2
Just fucking kill yourself m8
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