How do I git gud at roguelikes instead of getting pissed off when I die and going full tilt?
You must embrace suffering until you suffer no more
do roguelikes even give you tutorials?
pretty much every time i die the game just tells me to fuck off and git gud
I had enough of that shit when I was a kid. We have the technology to save games now I see no reason to go through that suffering again.
Because one time you'll have this run that you really enjoyed where all the crazy shit happened
And you will spend the rest of your life trying to get another run that good.
>>322047549
It's better to use your consumables and not be dead than do be dead with a treasure hoard.
>>322047549
plan you scrub
carry tp scrolls or whatever
>>322047549
Stop caring it's just a fucking video game.
Is could be the fact that you're going full tilt, just relax and think about what you're doing. Do you have ADD desuka?
>>322047728
You're right, we have the technology to fly why do I need these legs?
>>322047549
what is this food and why does it look so damn good
Fuck that soup looks tasty.
>>322047932
I remember it's some polanders food
>>322047549
By understanding the beauty of impermanence.
Bread bowls are overrated trash that only classless plebs like
run through the game enough times until dying becomes a habit and you know how to handle almost anything the game throws at you
>>322048026
It's literally bread
>>322047932
Poor people get stale bread, hollow it out and pour shitty soup in it. Then wala! Youv'e got soup in a bread bowl.
>>322047898
>Stop caring it's just a fucking video game.
I don't think you understand the frustration of losing all of your shit in a dungeon.
>>322048238
ok so whats the name of the soup? i dont care about the bread. i can dip the bread in the soup however i want.
i just want to know what the fucking kind of soup it is, man
adderall
Embrace the RNG.
>>322048272
Your attachment to these pointless digital baubles has blinded you from the joy of your own death.
>>322047834
That saved me one time I got stuck in Nethack, started spamming scrolls and genocided a shit load of bees and gorillas that were fucking me
>>322048238
>Wala!
>>322048238
>wala
It's voila
>>322048494
I'm pretty sure that's a function not calling because holy fuck what
>>322048327
Looks like broccoli cheddar
>>322048238
>wala!
>spelling it like that
>pronouncing it like that
>>322048610
What the fuck.
>>322047549
no bread to dip in soup?
play tome its really good
http://store.steampowered.com/app/259680/
http://te4.org/
free on the website one of the best roguelikes ive played in a long time
Nutrition / energy
Double-plate'ing some nuts and maybe some oats and some glasses of milk for that protein.
>>322048238
>wala!
You're American, right?
>>322048973
>>322048815
>>322048720
>Not knowing /ck/ dank memes.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/YVSb2rG.png "latest[1].png")
>>322048238
>wala! we're off
>>322048610
what the hell is that even supposed to be?
>>322049089
amerifats BTFO
>>322049010
The plate is actually cleverly disguised bread
>>322048610
>mexican food.webm
>>322049194
I go to /fit/ for recipes, thanks
>>322048238
>Wala!
Typical anon trying to sound condescending by using words he doesn't even know. Posters like these are a diamond dozen.
>>322047932
I think it's żurek.
>>322049361
Hey man don't blame him too much it's a doggy dog world out there. Him finding out how wrong he is now instead of later is a blessing in the skies desu.
>>322048610
>4 hours later
where?
do you cook it, chill it?
>>322049086
do you activate your almonds?
>>322047549
Depends on the roguelike
>>322049492
i think you chill it because if you put that in an oven for 4 hours it'd be burnt to fuck
>>322048610
Even the guy making it is shaking his head at what he has done
>>322049086
Coffee/caffeine improves performance by over 10%.
>>322049513
>memes
>>322049636
Vitamin A, lutein, and antioxidants for eye protection.
Vitamin K and lifting for great circulation.
>>322049612
Crypt of the Necrodancer
>>322049636
Performance of what?
Exercise?
Doing any kind of drug also improves performance.
You also hurt your body exercising on caffeine (or any drug for that matter).
Eat right and exercise, don't use crutches.
Also, don't fall for the coffee meme.
>>322049492
I watched the video before, he chills it.
>>322049962
>You also hurt your body exercising on caffeine
[source not provided]
Coffee has a huge amount of health benefits.
http://authoritynutrition.com/top-13-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coffee/
Inb4 not reading sources before criticizing.
>>322049962
>Performance of what?
>>memory, mood, vigilance, energy levels, reaction times and general cognitive function
>>322049928
Not a roguelike
>>322049636
>>322050215
>>322050507
It's a meme desu, probably turns you into a huge autist
No such thing as a free lunch, putting you in constant adrenaline mode has to have a drawback
>>322049928
That's a rougelike-like.
>>322050751
It's not adrenaline mode, for clarity.
>>322050705
>>322050765
YOU NIGGERS DIDNT ANSWER ANYWAY
>>322047549
Don't bite off more than you can chew.
If you see something scary turn 360° and moonwalk away.
Use your fucking consumables.
>>322047549
you literally can't, it i the nature of the game.
>>322051737
>Asks for roguelike help
>Posts a roguelite
>>322049928
Not a roguelike, try again.
>>322052360
Realm of the Mad God
>>322052520
OTHER GAME
>>322052520
>>322047549
Just play the original Rogue and ignore all the autistic 50 hour roguelikes that are popular these days.
Also try coffee break roguelikes, even if it sounds gay.
This is a serious suggestion.
>>322052629
>Original rogue
haha
>>322052617
ALL OF THE DAY BRO
You cheat and murder everything in your path with your 5 million health points.
>>322049917
>implying i'm going to take health advice from 4chan
top fucking kek
>>322053145
It's a good game.
>>322048238
>wala
aside
What are you, 14? Have you ever met a poor person? Have you left your suburb for any reason other than high school and buying bullshit at best buy?
Alright, either you buy a specific round loaf of bread for $3 then make a can of soup ($1), or you go to some casual eatery place and pay $10 for the same, but they make it for you and it seems tastier because of all the salt they use.
Neither of which are things poor people do. Poor people eat a lot of toast. Toast is cheap. Buying special fucking bread for a special fucking bread bowl delight is not a representative meal of poor people. McDonalds is.
Stop thinking of roguelikes as RPGs, and start thinking of them as puzzle games.
Every encounter is a problem that has several solutions.
>>322047549
Minimize risks. Basically the appeal of roguelikes to me is you never get stronger than the shit you're dealing with.
So you've seen xyz before. You feel confident. You get cocky. And it kills you. If you treat every single thing like it can kill you then you do alright. You can still get fucking steamrolled by RNG but that's sadly part of too many roguelikes. But mostly it's risk management. Don't take big risks. Take small risks.
>>322052626
>>322052617
What's wrong with realm
>>322053829
Nothing.
You're still a dumb faggot.
>>322053829
>What's wrong with realm
They removed corpse looting.
Depends on the roguelike but generally people die from either not having proper knowledge of how much of a risk their situation is and dying unexpectedly or from being too stingy and trying to save a resource that would easily put them out of the dangerous situation and then dying when it doesn't work out
Your escapes and panic buttons are to be used and it's generally best to use them before the turn where you MUST use them or you will die because if one tiny thing goes unexpectedly then it won't be enough
There are ways to git gud but some of them involve breaking the experience by looking up the metagame on how to beat it. Don't try to beat it, just try to get further than you did last time.
What Rougelikes are you playing anyways? If it's something like Nethack you very well can beat the game if you played it right every time, but I don't know how to answer for RNG in some of these newer games.
OP play ivan is a lot of fun.
Eventually you will progress further and further (before dying), but one day you will beat the game.
>>322047674
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup has a pretty good tutorial, in that it gave me the basics and then I had to figure shit out.
>>322047674
Every failed play-through is the tutorial until you win.
When you die to something, you remember what it is and you avoid it next time.
Also most good roguelikes feature a manual that gives vital information.
>>322048686
>bees and gorillas fucking you in nethack
why didn't you just Elbereth?
>>322048676
I notice in the last frame brown is being removed as bloat. True DCSS devs at work!
>>322053567
McDonalds is expensive though. Actual poor people would more likely cook themselves and use a lot of cheap stuff like rice and potatoes.
>>322055885
What the hell is your beef with DCSS?
>>322047902
It's a good false equivalency, considering that flying has 6% of the efficiency of walking, whereas a save system at its worst only loses 50% efficiency.
I feel sorry for people who think they MUST not get angry WHATSOEVER when a game does some lame bullshit.
Like raging like a child, that's shit, but wanting to completely remove all anger means you are a depressed soulless robot.
If you play rogues or rogue likes, one thing is going to be certain. You are going to run into unfair things that SHOULD make you angry.
That is the ENTIRE point of roguelikes.
To get your blood boiling but ultimately you figure out some way to stave off the bullshit.
If you just sat and blankly stared at the screen, died, had no reaction whatsoever, and then just started again, turn the game off.
You've missed the point and also need help.
>>322056054
Fun and challenge are bloat, so the devs are removing both of those things one update at a time
>>322056241
examples?
>>322056241
I thought they were cramming in useless features too. What are those features made of?
>>322056289
>>322056345
I don't play dcss anymore, so I don't know the details. /rlg/ should be able to help you though.
>>322056210
Only if it's a badly made roguelike. In a well made roguelike, like Nethack, there is literally no way you can be completely fucked over unavoidably (as long as you start without autopickup option enabled, there's about a 1/trillion chance you can instantly die when making a new game from picking up a cross aligned artifact when you spawn)
>>322056504
So you don't know anything and yet you still have a strong opinion?
Sounds like /v/ alright
>>322047549
Depends on the roguelike game in question. Most of them these days are just about grinding. So just level up.
If it's an old one, you're going to need to read guides because those games can be complex as fuck and all kinds of absolutely silly things can happen you'd never expect.
>>322056683
I don't care to memorize release notes for games I don't play anymore, no. However, there are plenty of people who have played dcss more recently than I who do know the updates who would be able to help you.
>>322047728
Losing a save when you die is a FEATURE of the roguelike genre, not a bug. It gives you a very different frame of mind when approaching a difficult situation. When savescumming is available, you'll make a mistake, learn that there's no way out, and then re-load and avoid that situation entirely.
Roguelikes by design will force you to re-assess impossible situations and squeeze a way out of them when you risk losing 10+ hours of work. Items that are typically useless in traditional RPGs suddenly become very valuable.
>>322047549
I want some tasty soup now asshole
>>322056210
ummm no. The point of roguelikes is conquering an incredible challenge through trial and error. If you get into a roguelike for the first time (with no guides) there's no way you should be able to win on your first several attempts.
The whole point is to feel out the game and the mechanics it throws at you, and increase your knowledge and understanding of said mechanics in order to progress and ultimately succeed.
The best roguelikes (once you've gotten used to the game) are made so that once you become more proficient with the items and weapons of the game, you play in a way that gives you multiple options of tackling every given situation. If you die, you should learn from the death and steadily increase your knowledge.
I like roguelikes because it's YOU that's improving, more than you becoming more proficient with a particular character. If you look at it from that prespective, dying doesn't become as rage-inducing (it even becomesfun)
>>322057262
>The point of roguelikes is conquering an incredible challenge through trial and error.
Winning isn't the point of roguelikes.
>>322057390
The real roguelike was the enemies you killed along the way.
>>322057390
I never said winning was the point. Conquering an incredible challenge can be whatever you set for yourself, whether it's making it through the early game, or having a fun throwaway run with a crazy build.
>>322047549
Is that clam chowder in a bread bowl? I think I had that when I went to some random town in America. Washington, I think.
>>322049056
Picked this game up and love it. Thanks for the recommendation, anon.
>>322057659
D.C. or state?
>>322057726
State, I'd have said D.C. otherwise.
>>322057976my bad senpai, i'm always down for good clam chowder and live near d.c., was hoping it was around here
>>322058197
I don't even know if what I got was considered good. It was my first time eating it. Not that it matters either way, my trip to America was like 3 years ago.
>>322058197
Looks like Broccoli and Cheese soup to me.
>>322058197
>I live near D.C.
As in within the metro area or a few hours drive away? If it's the first, I'm sorry for you.
>>322056241
>They removed being able to throw anything that isn't exclusively designed to be thrown
That's what did it for me
>>322058783
far enough away to live in a good suburban neighborhood, close enough to reach a metro within 20-30 min. Nice little sweet spot
>>322058786
What the hell? If it's already coded into the game why would you explicitly remove it? I could understand not adding it if it wasn't already there, but what the hell.
>>322051934
Rougelite meme is terrible.
A rogue clone is a rogue clone, it's not like rogue when it IS rogue.
>>322059018
>Crypt of the Necrodancer = rogue
???
>>322048610
is that supposed to look appetizing?
>>322056210
No mature people just realise their own mistakes are their fault and that's that
If you're playing a game with 'bullshit' then it's your fault for playing it and not being prepared for it, the fact that you seem to thing being angry over trivial things is the only alternative to being a robot is telling of severe autism
