When will we get a mod that removes the RNG aspect of the game? I fucking love playing but a lot of the time it seems my success depends on a pair of digital dice that the random number god loaded against me.
>when will we get a mod that removes the very core of the game
The game has always been based around the RNG, and trying to manage or survive it by any little means possible.
If you dislike it, the game probably isn't for you.
>>322029916
get a trainer or cheat engine if you wanna ruin the game
dude stress lmao
There's such a thing as too much rng, but the devs and fans don't understand this.
>>322029916
But if you remove the RNG, all that's left is the shallow JRPG combat and the narrator
might as well find some youtube vid with the narrator then.
>>322030520
>people actually supporting these devs with these shitty development decisions
>launch new update
>madman
>bone courtier
>dude stress lmao
They turned this game into a pile of 100% RNG bullshit.
>>322030520
>the game probably isn´t for you
Just saying that doesn´t make bad design choices any better. I like turn-based games (Jagged Alliance 2, Xcom, etc.) but Darkest Dungeon just isn´t nearly as tactical and the latest updates just have made the rng worse.
>>322029916
Speaking of mods for darkest dun. has that dark souls skin mod come out yet?
>>322029916
Nah. More like multiple factors. Including team composition and skills. Items also play a role in it.Hag is worst boss in the frustration department.
Eldrich Altar with holy water on hand. Do try to cure Reynauld's kleptomania or the palgue doctor's Fragile (-10% HP)?
>>322029916
You can open the moster files in Notepad and edit all of them to do no damage ever. So it's down to critical chances being 100% and removing negative effects. Or buff the stress healing moves a ton so they're not a wasted slot without upgrading.
>>322035220
Klept
>>322029916
Which classes do I bring to the INTO THE FUCKING POT battle?
How do updates for this game work? Do you keep your save or do you have to start a new game each time?
Wondering if I should start playing now or wait a few weeks for the full version.
>>322029916
What changed lately with this game to make it suddenly have threads on /v/, and for people to constantly be complaining about RNG?
>>322035476
Just bring some classes with ridicolous dmg like Abomination and focus her down in a few turns.
>>322035220
Kleptomania, nothing more annoying than heroes interacting with shit on their own.
>>322035476
Hellions can wreck her shit fast with bleed.
A non-Red Hook dev wrote a good blog on how Red Hook has caved to "Difficulty fetishists" and has kinda fucked the game up.
I agree with his assessment but the early beta was pretty easy after a point. level 1-3 or so you could get utterly fucking wrecked in a single round but when you finally got a stable of level 4-5 heroes and could farm reliably you can get a trinket/group setup that negates all but the absolute WORST RNG fuckery.
Stalling to heal/stress heal was a big thing and it's good they fixed that. Also fixing just bringing a gigantic pile of rations and refilling HP regularly was kinda broken too.
Corpses...eh, corpses suck. Regular mobs don't really do anything with them? So it just makes dealing with formations more difficult. Lame.
>>322035606
Christmas sale.
The art direction is fantastic.
But the game sucks. Too much RNG for me.
>>322035220
>Eldrich Altar
>>322035851
It´s not really difficult though. You just have to throw your face against the rng wall a couple times and you will have dealt with the low amount of bosses anyway. I hate that they made even less tactical though. It´s pretty much Vegas simulator 2015 now.
>>322035476
The ones with the Hag?
Bleeding and Blight are your best friends, but still use really heavy hitters.
>>322035851
Apart from ruining my HWM and GR frontline synergy, I think corpses were a really good addition to the game.
I'm not directing this at you, but I think a lot of people just don't want to work around the new systems, and instead just get upset about it. I think the addition of corpses is great because it adds greater utility to characters with backrow-only attacks. Stun Grenades, Abyssal Artillery, Iron Swan, etc. With a good party, you can have characters focus on both front and backrow depending on what the situation demands since the enemies won't move forward, and with a corpse-clearing move, you can adjust your opponent's distances to suit the situation. I'm personally a fan of it, and I think it adds some needed depth to the game which was disappointingly easy to exploit prior to the recent patches.
>download the newest version
>crashes when I try to load a previous save/make a new one
>don't really feel like playing the older versions because of the new content
>tfw too poor to buy it
>>322035889
Stress was a thing before the update. Now it's the big fucking thing that completely wrecks your asshole and leaves it a smoldering ruin.
>>322029916
>being this bad
Want me to stream this on twitch and go fucking 20 runs in a row without any problems? You really need it to get easier?
>>322037250
Wear a shirt that says "Will suck dick for 10 bucks" and walk around town.
Doing hag for the first time with an Occ/GR/Abm/MAA comp, any advice?
How fucked am I?
What are the worst quirks that make a hero unrecruitable or insta-dismiss? What the the best quirks I should always look for?
>>322035525
Anyone?
What do?
>>322034613
>hag
>not the drunken crew shitting up your party order and paralyzing someone with a regenerating troll shitbag
>>322035476
I used 2 hellions, a vestal, and a... I dont even remember the last one, probably houndmaster with doggy treat buff. Basically just crap bleeds on her and dont touch the pot even when it eats one of your guys.
G I T
U
D
How does the game work later on?
If I am stuck using level 1 characters because my team got wiped out, will I be complete fucked?
>>322039210
As long as you have a party who can all hit her most of the time you'll be fine
Relationship system when, seeing as how it was planned at one point?
>aboms and religious characters can now party together but have prejudices (that can eventually be overcome, or new ones made in the face of defeat)
>characters can forge friendships or rivalries, and perhaps (at higher resolve levels) even fall in love and get married at the abbey
>which makes their inevitable deaths all the more tragic
>>322040224
Yeahhh, my Abomination 2 shotted her without any crits lol
Hope they don't nerf him too bad.
>>322039649
Kill/clear the first two heads, focus on collector. He only instantly goes to resummon if you kill all 3.
>>322040457
>seeing as how it was planned at one point
Where did you see that?
>>322039649
The dipshit Collector is easy for lvl1 and 2 Apprentice characters.
Keep stunning him, bleeding him, blighting him and mark him for Bounty Hunters, Arbalests, Hound Masters and whatever characters can utilize markings.
>>322039725
If you are lucky enough to get a Virtue, then your life gets a little easy.
Still nothing compared to the bloody Shambler. Accidentally summoned him and two my characters luckily went Virtuous long enough to retreat.
>>322040527
He does need to be nerfed though, hes pretty crazy
>>322040612
>>322040740
Gravelord Micolash is kill
>>322040870
I hope they buff the leper, he's my favorite character design after plague doctor. I hate that he sucks shit.
>>322041140
What's that item?
>>322040870
Not that anon, but he already is balanced enough.
Even with the scary capabilities he constantly causes stress both to himself and to his teammates when in beast form.
Also use his beast form for the final bosses/difficult fights. His human form is not shabby in a fight and that chain can stun enemies.
>>322041140
That's the spirit.
>>322041258
I want the Leper to be even tankier.
>>322041140
I never played this game before, but am intererested, so correct me if wrong.
Is that skull a trinket and why didnt you equip it for bonus stats instead of fillling an inventory slot?
They should roll back on the update or make it a new mode and keep the original before update game in.
>>322032421
>jrpg
Kill urself
>>322041302
+30% healing moves at the cost of receiving +20% stress
>>322041405
most common trinkets have a penalty to something.
>>322041335
The stress damage to party isnt enough to justify how much damage he outputs to the first three rows, and if you use his rare trinket it actually heals the party by 1 stress every time he transforms back to human. Add to that the self stress heal/heal he has and there is zero stress problems with this hero or with the hero's party, and he does WAY more damage than any other hero except perhaps the plague doctor, whose damage is doled out over 3 turns instead of front loaded every turn. Add to that he has an option to back up to second rank and turn into a stun machine second only to the houndmaster, with an option to bile 2/3 rank, and hes just absurd.
Hes way overpowered and he should be nerfed a bit (preferably by making his stress mechanics meaningful).
>>322041405
That's a bust, items with a purple border aren't equipable, they're a type of resource used to upgrade buildings.
>>322041758
Woops, didn't see the actual skull.
>>322041302
Not that anon, but the Collector drops the heads of the Adventurers that perish in the dungeons.
He has collected the Highwayman, the Vestal and the Man-at-Arms and their heads do give nice stat boosts.
>>322041660
So the Vestal's head.
>>322041710
Hmmm. Yer right. Although he was thought of as a really fast heavy hitter. Maybe a small nerf to the ctitics and damage?
>>322041758
He's talking about the top right item, dummy. The skull with the green shit on it.
>/v/ praises it for the "omg so good D&D combat! its like you're playing with a game master and friends!"
>try it out
>the gm is a dick who spams "meteor fell everyone dies" every 34 minutes
>>322040204
There is no game over, you can grind forever no matter how many bodies you dump into the dungeon
>>322042154
Did you have the right team configuration?
>>322042154
sounds like a typical D&D session to me
>>322041707
Oh I see, thanks.
I'm still deciding between buying now or only after full release.
> The Grave Robber
Used to do crotchet.
> The Jester
Used to perform at children's parties.
> The Occultist
He went to Liberal Arts School.
>>322044527
>Plague Doctor
Ex-Stripper
>Hellion
Worked tech support for 9 years
>>322045395
> Ex-Stripper
Wow.
> Worked tech support for 9 years.
No wonder she rejects the gods.
Is there any more content or features coming for the game before launch? I'm gonna pick it up on sale, but if more features and content is around the corner, I'm gonna hold off on playing it.
>>322046014
The titular Darkest Dungeon will be included.
I on the other hand hope they add a new class and more ways to interact with the Hamlet and your characters.
>>322046191
It's a bit late to change Hamlet, and honestly there are already plenty of classes that need to be well balanced. Some of them are already useless.
>>322046340
> Some of them are already useless
It depends on how you use them. Even the Jester still has some uses even though other characters do a better job at bleeding people.
I'm the highwayman.
Anyone else using the same reynault/dismas/vestal/plaguedoctor they used at the start of the game? Playing extremely conservatively, I've never had a run go horribly wrong yet.
>>322047753
Hi, Highwayman.
>>322040740
>still nothing compared to the bloody Shambler
This. That is my first party wipe. Still have no idea how to deal with him.
>>322040457
Isn't everyone brothers and sisters though? cuz the old guy is everyones father?
We get it. You faggots are to retarded to understand how RNG works, chaos management, and how to cope with losing because DICE were against your favor.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
>people can't handle the goblet skeletons
>>322049653
they can fuck off and die
It's one thing that annoys me, i somehow manage to often crit everything BUT the ones that give stress. They're cunts
i made a thing
>>322049982
also this is the original
Is it a good idea to keep on doing short level missions with rookies until I get a good roster, or is it like XCOM where everything gets higher level as more time passes?
>>322049114
naw man, the player is the old dude's descendant. The party members are adventurers/mercenaries hired by the player.
>>322039403
you dont need to create another save
>>322049982
Neat, always love to see new OC for this game
>>322049982
Nice pig on the right.
>>322040457
Nice idea, Satan.
>>322035525
Only if you pirate and have a janky copy, Steam version carries over your saves every time there's an update, people would be up in arms if the game reset saves every time the devs patched it.
>>322039649
refund game
buy a 10 sided dice
roll the dice
keep rolling it
every time you don't get a 10 punch yourself in the face
>>322029916
CURIOUS IS THE TRAP MAKERS ART
HIS EFFICACY UNWITNESSED BY HIS OWN EYES
Is it possible to beat out the RNG in this game like FTL?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-NYlEL_bQ&list=PLy1RoYlej6xWqRRci7K_OuQWa-7UgG0uo&index=1
>>322051754
why does the narrator have autism
PRESS THIS ADVANTAGE
>>322050523
keep doing short dungeons with notorch (snuff it out at the start) but don't finish any missions and fire survivors that get over 50% stress (it costs too much to remove)
do this for around about 150 weeks if you want to upgrade the stagecoach by a couple of slots
wew lad
>>322051682OVERCONFIDENCE IS A SLOW AND INSIDIOUS KILLER.
A DEATH BY INCHES
>>322052227
ANOTHER GAME WASTED IN THE PURSUIT OF DIFFICULTY AND GLORY
>>322052365
>>322052365
THEY WIN QUICKLY DOWN HERE IN THE DARK . . . PERHAPS WE CAN NERF THINGS FASTER.
>>322033082
Git gud.
>>322052726
at rolling dice
Always a laugh when the babies come crawling out about how they think the game should be.
What do you expect from sending 4 simple adventurers into the abyss?
>>322052494
SLOWLY, GENTLY. THIS IS HOW A GAME IS RUINED.
>>322052795
learn how to roll
>>322039330
Bad:
Yips
Compulsion
Kleptomania
Fascination with death
Nervous
Weak grip on life
Sickly
Good:
Tough skin
Quick reflexes
Natural swing
Deadly
Resilient
Warrior of light/ lurker
Fated
>>322052843
>What do you expect from sending 4 simple adventurers into the abyss?
less artificial difficulty
>complaining about RNG in an RNG game
I will never understand this
this thread just reminded me why animefags should be gassed
>>322053035
It's the grinding I don't like.
>>322049904
anon you soundstressed
>>322053035
>3 hungers in one corridor
bottom bur
PERCHED AT THE VERY PRECIPICE OF OBLIVION
A HAIR'S BREADTH FROM BECOMING UNWOUND
>>322049653
I don't get why everyone complains about these and not the shithole pigs that have a chance of giving diseases. Or thoseabsolutemadmen.
>>322049904
>I'm only losing because I don't crit
If your plan revolves around one-shotting something because of a crit, you're planning wrong. It's like walking into the open in Xcom because you have a 90% chance to hit, if you miss and get killed next turn it's not because the RNG fucked you, it's because you fucked yourself by leaving cover you shitter.
>The sin is not in being outmatched, but failing to recognise it.
Stop coming into DD threads to whine about the game being shit.
>>322053147
>tfw I'll never have a plastic barbie doll looking gook bitch wife to make me delicious dog and grass meals
>>322053624
Was pretty entertaining to see my Vestal assaulted by pig vomit until she went insane and was plagued with disease. I don't blame her, that vomit looks fucking nasty. It has big chunks in it and it's being spewed by a disgusting creature.The buff pig with the cleaver thing is pretty hot though
Is there a beginner's tips thing?
I still haven't made it past little hunter yet.
I'm 3 hours in and I still haven't made it to throne.
>>322053339
Hunger is literally the only thing in this game that should have a cool down.
>>322040457
seeing as I'm already shipping my arbalest and my bounty hunter and writing porn about them i don't see why a relationship system with set mechanics ccould go wrong
high risk, high reward
if both are alive and combo eachother they get bonuses and stress heals
if one days the other one is severely depressed or angry
the only thing i see wrong with it is that some heroes in particular would be left out likedismas
>>322054332
Try to lure things out of tight areas so you're less likely to walk on the gold and die, replacing the blood shovel early on so you can make more room without losing health is ideal.
If you really want to cheese it, hold R when you enter a shitty room to reset it until you get the item you want.
>>322054880
>shipping
>writing porn about
>darkest dungeon characters
anon
anon
no
anon
stop
please anon
please no
STOP
>>322054880
Abom andHighwaymanis something I wish there was art of.
More Abom art in general would be amazing
How do I decide if a recruit is not worth keeping? What types of quirks should I be avoiding or looking for?
>>322055502
avoid any of the weakness to _____
>>322055414
too late anon
when two characters have abilities that connect with eachother i end up pairing them every single time
happens since FFTA's blue mage and red mage and how they made the perfect ability combos>arbalest tending bounty hunter's wounds>both marking units for eachother>arbalest hits a unit
>bounty hunter hooks it forward
>beats the shit out of them
>knocks them back into arbalest range
>>322029916
>>322030520
There are two fundamental problems with the battle-system as is; the fact that fights are balanced around the idea of clearing them before 4~5 turns, at which point you are punished for stalling, and the fact that you can miss.
Because the Developers want you to start out as a team of freshly rested, just used the restroom, had your sippy cup and momma kissed you on the way out soldiers and trudge through a horrible lovecraftian dungeon where your physical and mental faculties are slowly grinded away battle after battle they had to prevent you from healing out of combat.
You've got a medicine-woman who can cure bleed and poison, but she won't outside of combat, You've got a Knight who can create light, heal and cure stress but won't outside of combat.
This is all for the sake of both the Camping System and so there is a survival element where you're not always entirely prepared for every encounter.
The problem then is that you then have to implement a system that prevents players from sitting in battle to heal damage and stress.
The problem with implementing a stall system, especially of only 4 or 5 turns, it means you will be punished for doing anything that simply isn't trading as much damage as quickly as possible. Characters who need to set up marks, stuns and debuffs are now under a crunch time that doesn't always pay off, mostly because they can miss.
An Alternative to the current system is to rebalance encounters around the idea that you arrive to each one at Maximum HP, keeping your stress and debuffs from earlier fights. Possibly implementing a system where over-time in a dungeon you develop a few temporary quirks that reduce your combat effectiveness, including entering battles at -% of HP.
>>322057031
Missing in this game is a Cancer. It's frustrating but understandable when a 100% stressed character who is masochistic, fearful or abusive starts refusing to take orders and fucks around shitting on your strategy(more frustrating and less understandable with the Stall Mechanic) because letting your characters reach that point is part of the challenge, and it's something that you can try and prevent.
But Missing isn't something you can prevent, you simply waste a precious turn doing nothing and when you do nothing that's when you're eating another 5+ damage, getting hit by bleeds or crits.
An alternative to missing is to make it so that big all-or-nothing attacks like the Leper's swing instead range from 0~Max damage. It's bad enough that status effects and debuffs have two separate accuracy checks before they can take effect, worse yet if you rely on them for strategy.
Missing is slightly less of a problem in later stages of the game since every class will hit 100% accuracy on most of their moves when leveling them in the guild.
So what is the Deal with Hunger and Food?
I feel like I'll get checked for hunger 3 times if I have to go back through 4 or 5 hallways, but only once if I go straight through 9 unexplored hallways.
Is there a use for heirlooms after maxing out the Hamlet?
>>322056314
Bounty Hunter x Arbalest is fine
But tell me, where do the Occultist and Hound Master fit in?
>>322057352
like i said on >>322054880 the only thing i see wrong with it is that some heroes in particular would be left out
which is what i'm guessing was the reason they didn't pull it off
but that could be fixed by making them total bros rather than in a relationship or plain fucking
>>322029916
Dude...it doesn't matter if I'm rolling dice for real or in a game I have the shittiest RNG of them all and I love this game.
Maybe because it appeals to me as it forces me to make bettter decisions and not leave my life to chance, but whatever.
Git gud.
This game shouldve been more like FTL. One and done. Huge missed opportunity, I hope someone makes a game like that.
>>322057501
I am now imagining the Hound Master using the Hellion as his battle bitch.
>>322057484
You're fucked, mate
>>322057729
Originally that is how I assumed the game would play out.
As someone who has played a lot of Strategy RPGs and Roguelikes one of the things I most enjoy about the genre is to make a team of generic soldiers and make them the best they can possibly be, even name a few after friends.
So it was an interesting experience when this game does the exact opposite of others: Forcing you to handle their upkeep on limited funds in a highly lethal situation.
It was an interesting transformation when I started the game to when I got good, being entirely determined to keep my favorite fighters alive to becoming entirely bureaucratic and tossing away people to better my bottom line.
>>322057484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
>>322057149
>>322057031
Good points.
Also the hunger system can fuck off, it's just another RNG chance of 'fuck your run', especially with the food limit I've had hunger trigger 5 fucking times in a medium dungeon.
>>322057031
>>322057149
Holy shit. You're a whiny little faggot, aren't you? For starters, missing doesn't cause stalling to occur. Secondly, missing is not a problem.
>>322058895
>50% hit rate is OK
Fuck off.
>>322057729mods fix it
if the game ever gets a game over state my mod will finally have a reason to exist
>>322058778
Hunger should really be one of those things you can keep an eye on. In most roguelikes you're forced to eat food or make food from the things that you kill and are given a vague notion of how high your satiation level is; starving, incredibly hungry, very hungry, hungry, satiated, full, very full, engorged. Cannibalism and being able to eat Eldritch meat from things you find could lend itself to a possible mechanic.
I've heard that the developers intended for there to be a Religious mechanic in place that could effect any character and not just Crusader, Vestal and Leper. Aside from maybe changing virtuous chances and pissing off people who want to use the abomination I'm not sure what they intend.
>>322058895
I've been hit by the Stall Mechanic on turn 5 while actively trying to kill remaining, yet tanky,enemies.
As long as you are punished by a Mechanic beyond your input, beyond your control then it will be a problem.
>>322029916
>>322031935
>>322033082
>>322033363
>>322035851
>>322042154
The game was always ment to fuck you over. I have been wiped multiple times. I have been playing the game since it's inception and can say that the game is actually pretty balanced now minus a few op shit here and there. However the new changes are pretty good so people can't cheese likd melee only. Corpses, heart attack, all the changes.
And the game isn't entirely RNG. Team comps and choosing which skills to take is a vital component in a successful run. I've had shit diseased party but because my comp wad able to overcome and complete that dungeon.
The game isn't all that hard just push through and your gonna lose that favorite character eventually anyway.
>>322035851
>they fixed stall health/stress recovery
No they did'nt they just made it slighty more inconvenient
>>322041710
I hope they nerf via more stress and dont hurt beast modes damage to much. Guy pumping with satan blood, its only right he has huge damage potential.
>>322057031
>>322057149
there is nothing wrong with having unwinnable runs.
I mean, that's what solitaire is.
>>322044527
>"I am now glad I attended a liberal arts university."
It really seems like the Plot of Darkest Dungeon revolves around the concept of Regret.
The Highwayman murders unknowingly murders a woman and child during a robbery, the look on his face makes it seem like its his own wife and child.
The Man-at-Arms survives a fierce battle, the child-soldier(?) he tries to save is killed when a canon ball explodes right in front of him.
Your Father regrets absolutely everything, and the game is entirely about undoing his horrible misdeeds, especially the bosses which are people or things that suffered the greatest of his influence.
The Abomination comic has a Man suffer a grueling disfigurement, but he isn't put into a situation of direct regret. These are things done by others actions and not his own. So he may be an Abomination not only in transformation, but in concept as well.
You could also argue that everyone, besides the Abomination, dies in their origin story and the game is some sort of purgatory but I think that's such a basic premise that even if it was their original intention they'll deny/stray away from it.
>>322063816
Don't forget, during his high stress quotes the Crusader talks about losing "her" - probably a loved one.
>>322063537
I don't have a problem with the challenge or difficulty of Darkest Dungeon.
I only have gripes about the current system and how it has to be propped up by several sub-systems for the sake of other sub-systems.
>>322063816
>>322063936
>How can I fight for truth when I betray all I love?
>Why did I trade her for this life? She loved me...
>My reverie is haunted by things unsaid, loves lost...
>>322063936
I believe it was something like:
"Why did I ever leave her for this life? She loved me!"
I haven't seen his character comic yet but I assume it won't be about a child dying in his arms but walking away from a comfortable wife with a good woman.
>>322035476
something that can hit the hag behind the pot and a healer. Just ignore the person in the pot and focus down the hag
>can't run level 3 heroes through lower-level dungeons
well
how the fuck am I supposed to fight this boss without now? I feel bad not running a tank.
>>322064606
Time to get started on that b team.
>>322064365
>>322063936
>Man at Arms comic
>He is holding a child
>Gets stabbed in the chest
>coughs out some blood
>Seems fixated on reaching his Flag
>canon ball blasts him and the kid
>He awakes up on a still battlefield
>His flag is stained in blood
Certainly seems like a blood-on-my-hands type deal.
Or a 'lol ur secretly deaddddd' thing.
>>322064606
You should've been raising several teams of characters.
Ideally you want a team best suited for each location, maybe mix and match when its time to tackle bosses.
Once you learn how to handle the town and that its okay that you can let go failure shit characters to make way for ones that aren't suffering negative crits and negative speed quirks you should easily mop up the remaining 'apprentice' levels.
>people actually dismiss their mercenaries
Ride 'til you die
>>322065393
You know, I really haven't tried forcing anyone at a critical stress point into a dungeon with the intention of having them fucking die on the way.
I think this would be a good strategy, send in a few overstressed mooks you don't give a shit about to go grab some quick cash and heirlooms without any supplies, if they die its not really a problem, if they live you can always dismiss them later.
Another way the game rewards you for being unforgivably bureaucratic
>>322065836
> cant skip weeks.
>even if you eneter a dungeon and retreat, even if three or less ppl died, if you did'nt make enough prograss it will still not advance a week.
Problay the number 1 reason my grave yard is the way its. It just run suicide squads to pass the week.
more like whitest dungeon amirite
>>322067442
>Can't make a white arbalest
why live
>>322063816
Where can I find these comics?
>>322067568
I can. I'll do it tomorrow.
>>322067745
I just googled for them
>>322053657
no you double nigger, it was an example, nothing more.
I can crit these 3 guys, but the ONE faggot that gives stress at high levels i will miss until everyone in the party gets a heart attack.
and it feels that way. sometimes.
So /v/, how do you think the actual 'Darkest Dungeon' region will work?Personally, I'm hoping for something similar to the final fight with Kefka from FF6 in which all your heroes storm the dungeon at once and whenever one hero dies, he/she is replaced with another one from your party - in other words, very few survivors by the end of it.
If I don't click the quirk icon at the end of a mission for a character, will it not get any new quirks? My Vestal already has 5 decent quirks that I'm not sure I want to lose.
>>322029916
you can turn off pretty much everything that makes the game hard. all you have to do is play safe. don't try to finish quests with 80 stress on everyone, don't even try to finish fights if someone gets afflicted, just pull back. if you've got someone on deaths door, pull back. i've retreated and abandoned quests when i've got bosses down to 10% hp just because i know its better to try again than to risk way more time invested in a hero.
>>322068601
clicking the masks or not doesnt matter
>>322068601
clicking return to town automatically reveals any new quirks/diseases on the results screen
>>322049982
I don't get how people are mad with corpses being an option.
Grab a bounty hunter, hook every backline to the front, lololol when they can't attack any more due to corpses being in the way
>>322069345
Huh. So it does.
>>322068636
>boss at 10% HP
>Call retreat!
>retreat fails
Grow a spine.
>>322029916
is this worth a pirate? i don't buy early access games.
>>322061868
I agree with this guy. I have like 80 hours in this game and I feel like it's pretty balanced and easy to understand why things happen. Sometimes you eat a huge crit or your occultist heals for 0 twice in a row, but on the whole I feel the game is in a good spot.
>>322069501
I don't get this complaint.
A corpse can just as easily keep an enemy in a place for being hit as be destroyed and move him out of the way of being hit.
>>322069724
Bingo. And like I said the idea behind pushing or pulling a creature can really influence the battle.
Like know how frustrating it is when you get pushed or pulled? It's 10 times harder on the enemies if you fuck up their rotation
>>322039958
I think they nerfed the pot recently, or st least since before the corpse update. I remember when I started playing this game, the pot had 15hp but it had ridiculous protection or something and you could only do like 2 damage a turn to it. I recently went through the first jag again and she scooped my my Uber buffed bounty hunter. I decided I needed him, so I had my highwayman attack it and he one-shot the pot with a crit.
>>322069603
if you're fucked by a single retreat failing you've already played too riskily. the risk of losing a hero isn't worth the reward you get from completing quests. if you like having to retrain legends be my guest but i don't.
>>322069615
No. Just wait the month until it comes out and buy it.
>>322037134
problem is, they nerfed a ton of characters with the targeting/corpse changes just to validate shitty abilities rather than balancing them. Thats all corpses are in the end, a means to give shitty back row abilities validity in existing by the mere fact that better attacks are prevented from hitting via corpses. Rather than adressing the poor balance they implemented a bewildering mechanic that only the most direhard of reddit autist endorsed at its outset. I mean corpses dodging or being able to be missed at all? are you fucking real
Do people really think corpses make the game harder? I think it's great when I kill a front liner and their back liners can still be targeted by mine instead of moving forward (unless I choose to move them by clearing corpses).
>>322070351
i'm not sure why you have a problem with combat being more varied by corpses making some abilities more useful than they were before. making abilities relevant through corpses IS balancing.
>>322070087
And if the boss is just one hit away from an otherwise successful run I'd say chance it.
>>322057031
you can turn stall punishing off.
So they plan on adding an expansion pack at some point, what are you guys hoping for? Personally, I want enemies (and maybe even a class) that interacts with corpses, maybe animating, eating or creating them.
Also, I want a succubus dungeon.
WHY did they nerf bulwark of faith so hard? One turn of 40% protection and mark? Was it really that overpowered?
>>322070698
>IS balancing
In his defense the moves that remove corpses don't usually have a good justifiable secondary utility. Prove me wrong on that if you can.
>>322070959
>Succubus dungeon
Man I already tab out and look at porn during the enemy turn, what more do you expect out of my dick?
>>322070959
The hag is described by the narrator as having been very attractive once, and the boss of the cove literally has a seduce ability. What exactly is a succubus dungeon? You crawl inside her and there's boyalty everywhere?
>>322071221
Probably a dungeon full of tits
>>322070917
even on the hardest difficulty medium-length quests take like half an hour to complete. raising a legendary hero takes a lot longer than that. i've only had one death total and i intend to keep it that way.
>>322071135
Occultist daemons pull is excellent for pulling the bone noble out from behind the bone shield wall when I have killed the bine swordsman dude between them, and all similar situations. I've actually been using it frequently since I gave it to him.
>>322068601
you can lock the good quirks same way you'd pay for removing the bad ones
more like when will you get gud haha swag
>>322071221
Like a dungeon Slaanesh would design.
Also the Father can talk all about more terrible, perverted things his family did and the vices and sexual deviance and things.
>>322055502
they will acccumulate quirks regardless during runs so you will be fine if they dont have what you want initially
>>322071930
>the family did
I thought it was just him. He got bored of being rich and secular powerful, so he started dabbling in the occult, and weird shit atarted happening (the hag starts bothering him about herb stuff, the prophet starts rabble - rousing in the hamlet, he creates the necromancer and in the process accidentally creates the swine prince, he hires the brigade with the cannon to supreme the people in the hamlet listening to the prophet and to assassinate the prophet himself several times, etc)
I think he single-handedly ruined your family name.
>>322063936
The crusader probably took a vow of chastity or something to embark on his crusade and thus missed out on living a life with some childhood crush.
>>322067745
Darkestdungeon.com, I'm pretty sure that's the games website, but it might be bdsm instead.
>>322072367
>the family
I think he meant that in a lateral sense, i.e. your ancestor who decided to fucking build his mansion on top of a portal into hell.
>>322072636
The entire point of the game is constantly making the best of bad situations and adapting to adversity. You can do team comps and take certain items with you in certain dungeons to make it less difficult but you're gonna get fucked sometimes no matter what
>>322053624
A lot of stress attacking enemies give diseases now. The bone nobles have a chance at giving you the Fits, the ghoul can infect and entire party with Worries if you're unlucky, and the heavers can give damn near everything.
>>322054634
This.
Sometimes I walk 1 square and my guys need to eat, then eat 3 more times. Sometimes I go on long missions and they never hunger or anything.
>>322073195
ive always found the cultist females/madmen to be much more annoying in terms of stress production. the boner cup dudes die way more easily
>>322073398
>everyone at low is health
>I have lots of food, so I feed everyone 4 foods manually
> walk one step
>HUNGER
wut
The game does have way too much RNG.
When I get into a fight I don't think ''hmm, I'll just use this strategy to deal with that and then I will hurr durr durr''. What I am thinking is ''fuck, the enemy got the first turn. If this guy hits my party member then the entire party is going to freak out and die, if he misses then I HOPE I will get lucky and kill this guy before his turn comes''.
I don't like it at all. Most of the skills are completely useless. One skill gives a tiny buff like some shit that will make your character slightly better at dodging and the other skill will do massive damage to the enemy and will let me kill a guy before his turn comes.
Not even Dota is this bad. People whine about how Dota is nothing but RNG, but like every time you go into Dota you have to think ''oh gee I HOPE the enemy skills don't trigger, duuuude, if it triggers I am dead''. In Doto you don't have any useless skills that do nothing, it's not like you have a Laguna Blade that does 1000 damage and a skill that will reduce the damage you take by 10% at the cost of you skipping your round.
>>322073921
But who gets the first turn is based off speed (unless you get surprised), anon. Your post screams "I don't know the mechanics of this game". It's interesting you make a parallel with dota, because the same thing happens in mobas at really low levels: people who don't know how to play the game crying that everything is bullshit just because they have no idea how it really works.
>>322073921
if your success depends entirely upon a single roll then you need to reconsider the decisions you are making in the game that lead up to that point.
>>322074248
The game mechanics are not explained in any way. The game says that if my torch is lit I will surprise enemies, which is clearly false. It's not like I have much chance to learn the game mechanics when I enter a fight and get wiped out by two critical hits or at least crippled so badly I can't finish the dungeon.
>>322074248
The speed mechanic goes off a type of d8 roll formula though I think. So unless your unit has god tier speed, which even then doesn't always guarantee going first, it is way up to chance in terms of turn order. I've had 8-10 speed units get beat out by 0 speed units, and it baffles me everytime.
>>322074878
you have a higher chance to get surprises if you keep your torch at the highest two levels. nothing is guaranteed. sometimes you just have to back off and give up on a quest too.
try turning off some of the harder options like corpses or full enemy crit scaling until you understand the game mechanics better.
Why do you need mods like that? That wasn't the tabletop experience the devs wanted to give you. And this is coming from someone who browsed game development subs for 7 years.
>>322075184
turn order is rolled at the beginning of every turn, so if you increase your speed on the same turn, it won't affect that turns order. i don't think i've ever seen a 0 speed enemy go before a 10 speed hero when thats their speed as the turn starts.
>>322052726
He probably wants to but RNG sort of circumvents that, bro.
>>322076564
The game has a reverse difficulty curve, it's hardest at the beginning. Tough out the first 5 or 6 weeks and you'll be rolling in resources and leveled adventurers. This is not a hard game by any means, it's technically impossible to get a game over.
>>322076564
if you think that the existence of an rng makes a game impossible to get good at, you are objectively incorrect. how do you think there are pro poker players?
