>The Wii u is dead
Nintendo 3DS: 160.447
Wii U: 101.122
PlayStation Vita: 66.069
PlayStation 4:60.330
PlayStation 3: 3.459
Xbox One: 479
>i'll just ignore the worldwide numbers
One thing that sort of irritates me, just because it's retarded is how Neogaf and their like want to paint hardware sales as the final matter in success... That's really dumb and demonstrates a lack of awareness of video game profits in general as well as betraying that basically they want to champion Sony at the expense of whoever else.
>>322007507
Forgot my image.
WORDS
WORDS
WORDS
If you're curious about software sales though for gen 8 consoles, feel free to peruse it.
>>322007592
>people still pretend bloodborne is good
seriously? How long is that game of predent will last? It's a shallow, bugged slow and limited game with horrible collision system that will never be tolerated on anything else but for some reason From gets a free pass. Fucking madening indeed
>>322007879
>he's going to focus on that minor opinion statement
Okay...
Are you saying Bloodborne is worse than Battlefront?
>>322007431
/thread
>>322007879
i think that you are wrong, anon.
>>322007357
all those variations of the fucking mario universe, or featuring people from mario
DROPPED
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Glad to see nintendo on top in the only country that matters.
>>322007507
>>322007592
Also, isn't sonny and microsoft selling their consoles at a loss/very little profit, while nintendo is selling them with higher profit? Or was it just the PS3 last gen?
I removed the multiplats
over 50% of whats left is shovelware trash
>>322007357
20 millions of 3DS in Japan
3rd parties learned from the Wii that there isn't really any success for them on the Wii U. Sure Nintendo can make nice profits but the people that buy Nintendo consoles don't support third parties
This is why their console is selling slower than the Xbox One
>>322007357
Please stop OP you're stupid as fuck.
Pocky, Starfox and Zelda will save the Wii U
>>322007592
>this is the price of relying on 3rd party licensing fees
Yep that's doing pretty good for them in japan, highest revenue making gaming company there every year.
>>322008470
>Also, isn't sonny and microsoft selling their consoles at a loss/very little profit, while nintendo is selling them with higher profit? Or was it just the PS3 last gen?
That was last gen.
Here's the thing though. Even when hardware sales make profit, it's very minor profit.
PS4, Xbox One AND Wii-U all lost money on hardware (first time for Nintendo in a while) they all now make money per unit sold but hardware sales profits are negligible, these hardware units cost too much to make to make much money.
This has always been the case with video games. They make their money off of software.
1st party software = 100% profits going to 1st party.
3rd party software = Around 15% profits going to 1st party (for licensing fees).
For every 1 1st party game Nintendo sells, Sony needs to sell slightly over 6 3rd party games.
They aren't selling that many games at the end of the day.
The people who are making bank off of PS4 are not Sony, it's people like Take-Two (Rockstar's publishing company), Electronic Arts and Activision. Three companies who are among the most repellent of modern video game companies.
>>322008818
>revenue
Not this again...
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-profit.asp
I HOPE you're a gaffer.
Great, 100 thousand more try hard japs in splatoon to deal with.
>>322008054
LOL
Japan is the only important market for games. That's why the Xbox 360 was the worst console last gen
>>322007592
>100% profit
>nintoddlers in charge of business
o i am laffin
>>322008893
>b-b-but that doesn't count!
Classic /v/
>>322009009
They also have to pay for it, but yes that's correct.
They publish and develop the games.
>shitposters in charge of not revealing themselves as retarded
>>322009070
Would you read what I linked you so you stop repeating the same retardation?
>>322007357
>WiiU sells a lot!in Japan but don't tell anybody im trying to earn my paycheck
>>322008908
>Japan is the only important market for games.
Is that why most jap devs are switching to mobile shit?
>>322007357
>top 20 games
>Only one PS4 game
it makes me wonder how the fuck the PS4 is selling upwards of 60k a week when they're only selling 20k games a week
>>322008823
Sony also isn't 100% funding the game where Nintendo is. The money they make is more profit than the money Nintendo makes.
>>322008080
It's too bad you're letting such a minor grievance prevent you from playing great games
SNES>PS2>Wii U is my top three consoles
I really hope Zelda U is good, but I don't have a lot of faith in nintendo right now.
>>322009227
I should have been more obvious that I wasn't serious about what I said. I was making fun of the op
>>322007357
>The Wii u is dead
yup
>>322009134
Why don't you post this beloved profit of yours?
>>322009243
Sony also pays to publish various 3rd parties, not all but some.
The distribution and marketing costs on 3rd party multiplats are also notoriously high, versus Nintendo's 1st party titles.
Remember when Mario was plastered down the side of apartment buildings for E3? I sure don't.
>>322009134
>thinking 100% of the money made goes in their pocket
O I AM LAFFIN
>>322009308
Yeah, a slim glimmer of hope that zelda u is good is the only thing keeping my wii u from ebay's storefront
I want to believe, but Skyward Sword was such an abomination, I wouldn't be surprised if the same people are working on Zelda U.
I've never had any interest in starfox, it's a game that I would buy for 20 dollars, but it will never be that price so I'll never buy it
>>322008908
>Muh sales!
Wii was the worst console last gen. So many people bought it, but there are stacks of them in pawn shops and such. people thought it'd be different but it was just a gimmicky cheap piece of trash with a handful of okay games.
>>322009423
Ask in March, when the financial year ends and we'll compare notes with whatever other company you want.
Stock in Nintendo has grown higher than any other video game company in 2015. That's just one aspect of success though and a lot of it is from surges back in March (they retained the growth for the most part though even after the delay on mobile stuff).
>>322009520
I never said that. They have to pay for publishing costs of course. They retain the full income from the title though.
3rd party games don't operate that way.
Sony also sunk ridiculous amounts into things like The Order, Knack, Infamous and Killzone and didn't recoup their investments on any of those titles.
>B-BUT THEY MAKE TONS OFF OF 3RD PARTY LICENSING
No they don't. They make some, not tons. That's my only point. People have had problems understanding why Playstation used to lose Sony so much money. I hope they understand a bit better now.
>>322007357
Might as well ask
Trine 1 or Ducktales remastered?
I am leaning towards Trine, but then again i already have it on pc and didnt finish it(mostly due to not liking to play platformer on keyboard)
>>322009592
So for now we refer to the revenue chart in japan, which sony dominates every year. To think that it doesn't even include their other businesses in japan.
>>322009227
But they arent.
Capcom and se actually abandoned mobile profits are very low
>>322009592
their stock went up because iwata died. The new head of nintendo hasn't been making any big splashes yet and hasn't said much or shown himself to the public yet for people to see how he runs the company.
>>322009845
>So for now we refer to the revenue chart in japan
>revenue
Would you please stop.
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-profit.asp
Do you work for Sony too? That is on their level of tactics.
>>322009409
DELETE THIS
>>322009915
Then post this beloved profits of yours.
>>322009881
Maybe so, but they retained the growth they made from March.
At the end of the year they came ahead of everybody else (in that area anyway) both east and West too, I checked out the Western companies as well.
>>322009232
>"What kind of games you want with that PS4 senpai"
>"No games please"
>>322008626
Bump for awareness
>>322008573
>but the people that buy Nintendo consoles don't support third parties
This applies to any console though.
I only support 3rd parties on console when they have exclusives.
If Square Enix releases games on PC, I will buy them there. (For example)
A lot of 3rd parties are shit but they don't want to hear about that. They want an easy scapegoat.
>Why is this port that we put zero effort into optimizing doing poorly? It can't be our fault!
Looking at you Ubisoft and EA.
>>322009776
>They retain the full income from the title though.
No they dont, retailers get a thick slice you nimrod.
>selling shitware to children
>successful
>not killing the industry
Ok /v/
>>322007357
I own a wii u and you would have to be delusional to think that is a great selection of games.
>>322010201
>retailers get a thick slice
>thick
The retailer margin is negligible.
>>322010214
>shitware
>>322009776
bro your so mad bro
sony always wins baby
>>322007357
This only works for the vita. Handhelds aren't as popular outside of japan and sony gets otaku games and third parties while nintendo gets the most popular kids games like mh and youkai watch. 3ds/vita wasn't even a competition just like ds/psp wasn't. Nobody actually thinks otaku games are popular, but guess what nobody here gives a fuck about? Popularity.
The wiiu is different. Consoles are less popular in japan and nintendo doesn't get any third party support. The occasional week of success does not offset the general trend of the wiiu being less popular than the vita.
Do you know why nintendo does better during holidays? Who do you think receives gifts and can't afford to buy games on their own? Children. Nintendo is the children's platform of japan.
>>322010186
No it doesn't
>>322010352
Yup. Perfect example of shovelware trash.
>>322010214
>shitware
Speaking of that.
Call of Duty: Black Ops III
Destiny: The Taken King
God of War III Remastered
Helldivers: Super-Earth Ultimate Edition[6]
Journey Collectors Edition
MLB 15: The Show
Tearaway Unfolded
The Order: 1886
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
>>322010332
Seems pretty thick to me. Unless you want to countermeme with some sourceless claim.
>>322010425
Cool retort.
>Japan
Wow, it's fucking nothing
>>322010606
Well with your logic everybody have a gaming pc and everybody prays and wait for pc onsole ports for every single game. Does that happen?
>>322008818
And nearly 2 billion(in dollars not yen) of those are from PS+ fees.
So both yours and the one who you replied to's points are wrong. Sony makes money by simply selling their service on PS4, not games not hardware. They have now what? 30 million people per month that pay 5$+(depending on region price is even higher) per month? Anyways last time they reported the numbers they were 20 million, with nearly everyone who owns a PS4 having PS+. Now with quick elementary math thats 150 million usd per month. Per year you look at nearly 2 billion, again USD. Now Sony has something like 6 billion(its behind tencent) revenue per year, so they make fucking 1/3 of their money on something completely unrelated to video games and that is ignoring other services like netflix where they also massively profit of.
>>322010817
>everybody have a gaming pc
>>>/int/
Not that I needed proof the shitters in this thread were from non-Anglo Europe.
>>322007357
Nice Consolewar thread OP
>>322010873
Therefore console users support third parties and thus invalidate your previous claim. Thanks.
>>322010872
>who needs games when we've got sales
tragic
>>322010872
That figure is only for japan between japan game companies.
>>322011096
>>322010332
Retailers are the ones who probably take the highest risk. They are the ones who will sit on the loss if the game dosent sell, so yes they get a quite big slice of the cake.
This is also why retailers like gamestop push preorder culture, because its a good way to gauge interest in a game and if there are no preorders they simply wont buy any game from the publisher.
>>322011262
This, most gamestops only buy one or two copies of unpopular games. The types of people who play them typically preorder. That's why if you go into any used game store, you'll see a million copies of cod and madden. I'm sure some people will say "that's what makes them unpopular!" but online and digital sales counteract that.
>>322011262
>so yes they get a quite big slice of the cake.
Stop with this.
The amount they get on a sale is equal across the board and it's around 15%.
>>322007357
literally a bunch of trashbin tier rehashes. Who wants to play kirby: 4 hour adventure for the nth time?
>>322011096
Yeah of course because selling platforms to introduce and bind customers to your services makes way more money than simply selling platforms and some accessoirs(games). Especially since apart from some initial costs when building and introducing people to your infrastructure selling sevices is cheap as hell.
Suits at Sony probably had an collective orgasm when they saw Microsoft trying to bring this strategy to consoles during the xbox360.
>>322011573
25%
See >>322010597
>>322011872
Wouldn't that apply to any video game series that has more than 1 game in it?
>>322011305
They deserve it for abandoning their hardcore fanbase last gen.
>>322011941
It's still even across the board regardless of the publisher. It doesn't change based on Sony, Microsoft, Take-Two or Nintendo publishing a game.
It's great that mods already started deleting sonygger threads before they reach 20 posts, now if they would start deleting nintendrone threads aswell it would be golden.
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>>322010872
>The great thing about the PS4 isn't having no games
>it's posting financial spreadsheets online
