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So why doesn't Sony sell Wired controllers?
Fuck this generation, I just want a first-party wired controller so I don't have to deal with wireless lag and unreliability.
And no, I don't want a fucking madcatz knockoff controller. Those are shit.
What's the solution? At this point, I don't think I'll even buy a fucking console.
My sweet summer child, do not become discouraged. There are multiple avenues you can choose. The best of which would be joining the glorious pc gaming utopia.
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>>322003167
Already pcmr. It looks like they didn't sell wired controllers for ps3 either.
I use a wired 360 controller for a few games on Steam and I've never had any issues with it. Finding one for sale was an issue, fucking gamestop talked down to me for asking for a wired product. Half their used controllers still had visible finger gunk on them.
I don't want a wireless piece of shit, even if they can be plugged in to charge because they'll likely still connect (read inputs) wirelessly even though plugged in.
Anyone have more information on this dilemma?
>>322003558
My good chap, if you're looking for a wired pc controller, there are many available including the Xbone one (which functions both cordless and corded) and the popular Logitech $16 F310 gamepad. If you're looking for a wired PS3/4 controller, sadly you'll have to go with third-party, unless there's some sort of cord workaround (like with the Xbone controller.)
>>322004004
My rig is set, but I'm looking at consoles to increase my selection of available games. Have mostly been looking at ps3 (50~games), ps4 (20~games), and wiiu (20~games).
Since it's unreasonable for the Wiiu tablet to be wired, I'm giving it a pass. Also, the motion controls make sense as forced wireless
Ps3, ps4, and xbox1 ALL apparently have no first-party wired controllers for their system. What a joke.
>>322003013
Just bought a ps4 controller cheap during Black Friday. PC master race here who has been using wired 360 controller for years now and I love the ps4 pad now. You can use it wired over usb with no lag so I have no idea what you are complaining about.
>>322004905
All you need is a micro usb cable, so just any phone charger, to make your bone controller wired.
are you going to use that lag free controller to play csgo competitively or something?
>>322005395
How can I be sure that the controller will communicate through the USB cable while plugged into console rather than using its default bluetooth/wireless mode?
It's obviously not an issue when using it on PC, since most PCs don't have, or need, a bluetooth receiver.
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>>322003013
>wireless lag and unreliability.
Literally meme issues
>>322004905
all you need for the Xbox One controller is a USB cable you fucking chode.
>>322005759
n-no, anonfuck the rank tweak
I think any dropped inputs, delay, or unreliability will create a very negative experience for me.
>>322005872
Literally zero content post
>>322005963
Right, I'm sure they all come with their own "charging" cable, but does that mean they actually use it to communicate as well?
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>>322006181
It's basically 2016, wireless lag and """unreliability""" is a literally zero content complaint
>>322003013
just leave the USB in your controller and there you go wired
fucking retard
>>322006442
>It's 2016, physics don't exist anymore
>>322006886
what does that even mean? do you play behind a 6 inch wall of concrete or something???
>>322006442
Maybe I'm too old. The 'wireless' products I used 10+ years ago were shit, with constant interference and input dropping.
To be fair, my wireless 360 controller dropped a few inputs or lost connectivity on occasion and it was quite frustrating, and that's fairly recent tech. I've been using a wired 360 controller since and haven't had a single issue.
If you can force USB communication, then it's a bit more moot.
>>322003013
Is this bait? You can just plug a USB cable into the controller.
So who's right?
Does it work the same way in current gen?
Do you have facts/source to back this up?
Is this fucking 1994? Did I time warp back to a time when wireless controllers were shit or something?
Holy fuck OP stop being such an autist. The amount of lag from a wireless controller is something like 2 ms.
You're getting as much, if not more input delay from your fucking monitor or television than you are from using a wireless controller.
>>322007171
Does that force USB communication, though?
>>322003013
The PS4 controller works on PC if you use a USB cable, even if your PC does not have bluetooth, you can use it
>>322003558
>even if they can be plugged in to charge because they'll likely still connect (read inputs) wirelessly even though plugged in.
You're a fucking moron.
>>322007340
Yes
>>322005824
>default bluetooth/wireless mode
Because you have to actually sync your bluetooth if you do want it wireless.
>>322003013
Er just use the USB cable????? DURRRRRR
>>322007340
Yes. And anyone who says otherwise is b8ing.
>>322007323
Wireless is and will always be shit.
Please tell me you don't play action-based online games through a wireless connection. That creates one of the most inconsistent environments, really awful for the player - lag compensation makes it really awful to play against someone doing this too.
Why is the logic any different for a console-controller experience?
ITT: I haven't used a wireless controller since the fucking mid 90s but I'm going to assume they're all still terrible in 2015 because CONSOLE PEASANTS.
You're a fucking retard OP. I bet you're afraid to fly on planes because something might hit the propellers too.
I've been using a PS3 controller with a Mini USB and Motion joy drivers, with better DS3 software.
It's a lot of bullshit that you shouldn't need to do, but no one ever bothered to make DS3 drivers that just work.
>>322007709
>Why is the logic any different for a console-controller experience?
Well, uh, gee, for one thing, how about the amount of fucking data that needs to be transferred? IE your button presses vs the entire fucking game, positions and speeds and trajectories of all characters and projectiles, etc etc?
How about distance? As in, you're sitting 3-10 feet away from your console vs your router in another fucking room?
Connection speed? Just because your router is shit doesn't mean the transmitter and receiver in a controller and console are.
The fact that you're even comparing a wireless controller to playing internet games over wifi is more than enough to tell us you're an idiot, so just trust us when we tell you it's not an issue anymore.
>>322003013
Why not just buy a longer usb cable? A good one will set you back like $5 on amazon
>>322008191
>the entire fucking game, positions and speeds and trajectories of all characters
Please tell me you're trolling. The only data that's sent in a competently-coded online are your button presses and the timing of them.
Would you use a wireless mouse? I have a logitech performance MX that would constantly drop inputs despite being 2-3 feet from the tower. Stopped using that when I got a WIRED g400s from your suggestions. Everything's great on it except the mousewheel.
Why the FUCK does the DS4 only get like 6 hours battery life even on low lightbar brightness (which is still mandatory for no reason) and why does no one complain about it?
If i don't charge this fucker every fucking night even if I don't use it, it dies in hours. Fuck off, even the Xboner controller with AA batteries lasts at least 10x longer.
>>322008765
This is huge for me. I regularly have 8+ hour gaming sessions and I don't ever want to see a battery warning.
>>322008581
>I literally do not know how netcode works
If and online game only sends your button presses, you know what you end up with?
MASSIVE FUCKING DESYNC.
I'm not explaining this shit to you, toddler. Educate yourself.
>Would you use a wireless mouse? I have a logitech performance MX that would constantly drop inputs despite being 2-3 feet from the tower. Stopped using that when I got a WIRED g400s from your suggestions. Everything's great on it except the mousewheel.
No, I'm not using a wireless mouse, because my mouse is never more than 3 feet away from the USB port on my computer. But I use wireless controllers all the fucking time, and there is literally no difference when they're plugged into my computer vs when they're using wireless with my consoles.
You've obviously made the decision already to be retarded and not listen to anyone, so the only thing left to tell you is no, don't buy a console. Don't buy a console controller. The wireless connection is going to get you in your sleep anon. Now fuck off and never make this thread again.
>>322006181
Because the xbox one controller needs an external device in order to work wireless on a PC.
>>322008765
I complain about it all the fucking time, just not on 4chan.
I hate the DS4. I have no idea why the fucks on 4chan worship it like it's the second coming.
>>322009108
>sf4, pre-gfwl suicide
>literally sends the background stage info
>playing on anything but training stage causes online lag
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I'm anal about input lag and I've NEVER noticed lag from my wireless 360 controller.
OP is a fag.
>>322009192
Because if you have DS4Windows, you can turn off the lightbar and get at least 10 hours of gameplay without a second charge.
>>322008765
>no one complains about it
Everyone I've talked to about the ds4 ahead mentions that the battery is shit.
The whole controller in general is shit, but one of the greatest things about the ds3 was that the battery was so baller you almost never had to charge it. It really felt like a wireless controller, i.e. you barely had to think to plug it in. The ds4 is like a Chinese knockoff of the ds3, complete with a shitty gimmick to make it seem better.
>>322009389
>10 hours
Are our standards this low now?
Get this. Wired for PS4/PS3. Not sure if works on PC though.
>>322009467
Clarifying: ds4 is complete shit, ds3 best controller I've ever used. My wording didn't convey that clearly.
>>322009358
By "the whole game" I obviously meant all info relevant to the game at the time. Shit like backgrounds and particle effects, and depending on the game, physics models for boxes and shit obviously don't need to be sent, or otherwise you end up with that.
But it's a fucking LOT more than "just button presses and timing." That's not how online games work. That's all I was getting at.
>>322009108
I like how your solution is to bash, but I didn't expect anything less from 4chan
So, why won't you use a wireless mouse?
Why are you settling for inferior performance from your console?
>>322006454
Sauce
>>322009507
Meh. It's better than nothing.
I keep my controller plugged in all the time so it isn't an issue for me.
>>322009389
>10 hours
I have 3 main Bluetooth devices: earbuds, mouse, and ds3. They work for DAYS without requiring a charge. 10 hours is sore weak jive shit
Do they sell XBone wired controllers? I don't even know, I bought a wireless one and use it with a 2 meter mini-usb>usb cord. It's good.
>>322009735
Not trying to excuse DS4's shitty battery life. I'm just saying it lasts quite a bit longer without the useless lightbar turned on.
>>322009387
Lag is only part of it. Most input lag is imperceptible for casuals, but if you play games or use your machine often enough, even a slight change can be jarring.
It's kind of like the 30/60fps debate.
What really fucks with me is any kind of dropped input or connection interference. Even momentary drops destroy immersion.
>>322009579
DS3 is garbage. The whole controller feels super flimsy. Don't get me started on the fucking triggers.
>>322009623
I already told you faggot, I'm not using a wireless mouse because I have no need to. I'm sure if I did, it'd be fucking fine. And the only "inferior performance" here is coming from your brain. There's literally nothing wrong with modern wireless controllers, and yet here you are claiming that they're shit while providing literally no proof, or even anything resembling an educated guess. You're literally just saying "THIS THING IS SHIT AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE."
So no, I'm not going to even bother arguing this to you anymore. Fuck off cunt.
>>322003013
IIRC PS-triple controllers work like normal USB HID controllers when plugged in.
>As opposed to XB360 Wireless controllers that were wireless 100% of the time, even if plugged in with the play and charge cable
Could be the same for PS4 controllers too.
>>322009793
All the xbox one controllers become "wired" if you use a cable to plug them.
>>322009865
I've NEVER had any drops in wireless controller usage. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Also, like the other anon said, the input lag you get from a wireless controller is minute. You get more lag from your fucking monitor. The input lag on a wireless controller is probably under 5ms, and that's half the best monitors in the market give you.
You should really give a wireless controller a try before spouting bullshit.
>>322009008
>gaming sessions
Literally Reddit
>>322009625
Just found it, Miss Mara Jane.
>>322009865
Yeah, dropped input and connection interference that you've literally never had a problem with nor will ever have a problem with because you've never used any of the devices in question, and you're literally making shit up.
Actually, the original Sixaxis ps3 controller had problems with occasional dropped inputs. But that's been long fixed and you're obviously not thinking of getting one of those.
>>322009905
No, you need to provide proof that it's acceptable.
Wireless < Wired - for *everything*
Even if we assume that the radios and DSPs used to make those cheap radios worked didn't introduce latency at all - there is still the very simple matter of electricity over a wire being exponentially faster than an rf signal.
>>322009563
Yeh, pretty sure I don't want a knockoff.
Hori is alright though, definitely on the higher end of the 3rd-party spectrum.
>>322009585
They send as little data as possible for minimal delay. I've experienced massive desync in emulation and even last-gen games.
>>322009793
There aren't any first-party, but I'm pretty sure there are some knockoff wired brands.
Does the DS4 not use the USB connection? MY DS3 does.
>>322003558
>I don't want a wireless piece of shit, even if they can be plugged in to charge because they'll likely still connect (read inputs) wirelessly even though plugged in.
Idunno about you, but I connect my ps3 controller with the usb cord just fine and it for sure isn't running wirelessly.
>>322010056
But I have one of those monitors, anon.
You may not have experienced drops, but I have, and it feels awful.
>>322010329
Jesus fuck stop lying. I've never heard about these fabled "drops", stop making shit up. I've had this fucking controller for like 6 or 7 years and use it probably every day.
>>322010121
Well that ended up being the biggest disappointment of my life.
>>322010202
I use my DS4 wired all the time on pc so.
I have no idea what OP is talking about
>>322010131
I'm considering ps3, ps4, wiiu, and apparently xb1 now if they offer first-party hardwired controllers (they don't afaik)
A lot of the ps3 stuff I wanted is being ported to Steam, but there are a few that won't be.
>Wii u pro controller is godlike
>there's a workaround to let you use it wired on the console
>supposedly doesn't work on PC
What is life?
>>322010121
same
>>322010071
every day of my life is a gaming session.
Thanks for your high-quality post, Anonymous.
>>322010329
Think about it for a second anon.
Why do you think none of these new console kiddies can play arcade games?
Why do you think most of them think older platform games are hard?
Because they've never experienced gaming without a massive latency between input and response.
Instantaneous change is alien to them, 200ms latency on a controller is their version of 'normal'
At this rate even if we ever get a display technology faster than LCD, it will likely have to have additional buggering for the signal just it feels right for the new kids.
Fuck I hate people under 25.
All you you, just kill yourselves already, save WE WUZ the trouble.
>>322010207
From what I'm reading, that's the case for ps3 but NOT for ps4.
I can't find any reliable sources on that information, unfortunately. And half, or more, of the posts here are just straight telling me to embrace wireless death.
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>>322010329
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>>322009108
>If and online game only sends your button presses, you know what you end up with?
>MASSIVE FUCKING DESYNC.
What is ggpo?
I know it only works in fighting games, but at least this a netcode that only sends inputs to the other player. This way you can avoid cheaters like in sfiv when they would drain your whole life at the start of the round.
>>322010415
Sounds like you have a low interference environment, then.
I think the environment in my old apartment was shittier because it was literally surrounded with wireless devices.
>>322010524
Well they don't.
Your move fuckwit.
>>322003013
I use a dualshock 4 with a long USB cable. The cable is high quality and braided. Bought it on amazon for 20 bucks. Works great. Fuck wireless anything, literally every device but my cell phone is hard wired.
>>322010452
There was a controller thread last night where an anon said something similar about DS4s not having USB connections. I didn't read the thread but I'm going to guess that he got BTFO'd and this thread is his follow-up shitpost.
>>322003013
I personally just use my ps1 or ps2 controller with a USB adapter.
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>>322010778
Christ man, I went through the same pair of razer carcharias headset FOUR times before the 2-yr warranty was up. I didn't even want the warranty, but they gave it to me anyway. Thank god I got it, because that thing was a piece of shit.
Fuck razer.
My hyperx cloud hasn't given me any problems yet. Also, comfy as fuck.
>>322010636
Referring to it as a gaming session is Reddit as fuck. Bet you have Mountain Dew and Doritos and pre-order all your games at GameStop.
>>322010845
>What is ggpo?
Rollback netcode whereby your actions are performed 1:1 locally against your opponent before being transmitted online, at which point it checks data from both players to ensure there are no discrepancies, and if one is found, it rolls back the game to an earlier point before the desync?
It HARDLY "only sends inputs to the other player."
>>322009389
>10 hours
Wow it's fucking nothing
Meanwhile the wii u has a controller that has a battery life that lasts for months
>>322010751
A lot of them, and maybe some of you, don't even know about HDTV (display) lag.
If you're playing on a stock bigscreen, you can be adding 1/3 of a second (or more) to the time it takes to display the image on screen from your console. This is mostly due to image postprocessing, and can create perceptible audio de-synchronization even for an average viewer.
It's a shame we have to invest so much into researching which products are even acceptable these days.
>>322011445
>Meanwhile the wii u has a controller that has a battery life that lasts for months
It's 80 hours, anon.
Which is still a fucking lot.
I think i've charged my controller 3 times ever.And then there's the gamepad battery.
>>322011524
>It's a shame we have to invest so much into researching which products are even acceptable these days.
Fucking this, TVs are so shit these days
>>322011587
>80 hours
Oh, I guess I just don't use it enough
The gamepad battery is terrible though
>>322010845
I really didnt like the rollbacks in ggpo, it's very jarring on a laggy connection.
A good connection on ggpo though is pretty damn nice.
>>322011714
Yeah it's like 2 hours or some shit.
It's a travesty.
>>322010869
Will my wired 360 controller work on xb1? That's probably my last bid for xb1, unless they announce a first-party wired controller (they won't)
>>322011819
No.
>>322010992
Wasn't me. Looking to pull information from you guys, but it's mostly just memes and shitposts.
If any of you have a source on the USB connections for ps3, ps4, xb1 making the controller function wired, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>322011971
We've answered your question several times now.
What's the point of this thread?
Even the PS3 controller works with PC and it always comes with USB cable included.
Holy fuck, all this arguing with no questions fucking answered.
OP, controllers that work wired when plugged in are DS3, DS4, Wii U Pro, and Xbone. 360 controllers required buying an actual wired model. To get any of those working wirelessly, you either needed Bluetooth or a special dongle for the computer to recognise the signal the controller was putting out.
Now it's up to you to find which controller is most comfortable for your gaming needs. I prefer using the xbone controller now as it's simple plug and play, no need for charging a battery once it's plugged in, and I have not noticed any dropped inputs. It also has a great d-pad compared to the 360. If you choose the DS4, it also has a great d-pad, and although I don't like it's design and ergonomics, many say it's much better to them than the DS3 was.
>>322012051
Can I get a source?
I know it would make sense for the data to be transferred via usb, but is that what's actually happening?
>>322012331
Source: I'm using one right now. My computer doesn't have bluetooth and there's no possible way for it to register the inputs wirelessly.
>>322012284
>What's the point of this thread?
OP is shitposting. We've all fallen for his ruse.
>>322012304
Sounds like this is geared towards using your controller on your PC. I appreciate the info on what works, for sure.
My wired 360 pad (see OP) is great, but yeah the d-pad is pretty trash.
What I really want to know is if they'll function through the USB cable without using bluetooth/wireless at all just by being plugged in, and a Source that I can use other than "I heard it on 4chan".
>>322012431
That's on a PC though, obviously that will be the case on PC. Will it function wired through your console, and where is the source on that?
>>322012787
>Will it function wired through your console
It functions wired on PS3. I don't know if it does on the PS4 because I don't own the console.
>>322012669
>>322012787
I can't find you a source other than telling you what I use. My computer does not have bluetooth capability or a wireless dongle plugged in, so the only way it could read inputs is through the cord connecting the controller to the computer.
As for on console >>322012787, AFAIK the xbone and DS4 controllers do not function wired, only 3rd party controllers will do that. They make them, but I can't attest to their build quality as I have never used them. As for DS3 and Wii U Pro, I'm pretty sure those do function wired when plugged into the console.
>>322012904
fuck off
>>322012904
I think you're posting in the wrong thread 3bh flamingo
>>322012904
You aren't REDS, but keep delivering
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