Hey buying a graphics card and I think I have found a winner. but im not sure, is the a fairly decent card for AAA titles in 2015/2015
4GB 128-Bit GDDR5
Core Clock 1279 MHz
Boost Clock 1342 MHz
1 x Dual-link DVI-I 1 x HDMI 2.0 3 x DisplayPort 1.2
1024 CUDA Cores 1024 Stream Processors
PCI Express 3.0
please excuse me if I am asking a ridiculous question. I'm not too knowledgeable about this kind of thing
>>321953006
imo, you'd probably be better off with an AMD GPU at that price range.
>>321953006
wait for pascal f@m
>>321953006
Honestly better off saving your money and getting a 980 and or getting a r9 390.
Also have to ask yourself if you have the motherboard to make proper use of it and it has a PCI-E 3.0 slot.
Don't waste your money on the 4gb version
Got my GTX 980 for $250. Don't be afraid to buy pre-loved.
>>321953546
i have a budget anon, I can pick this up one up for $220 on newegg and I dont wanna spend more that $350
>>321953546
Also take into account the added power you need for a better card.
You will probably wanna update to a 1000w power supply if you plan on getting a half decent gpu. Better to be over your consumption then right on the mark or slightly above it.
>>321953006
>960
>4gb
you're retarded aren't you?
>>321953783
>1000W
o i am laffin
>>321953791
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487155&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
:|
>>321953006
>960
cuck
u
c
k
>>321953638
Change your thermal paste in a preowned gpu if you get one.
>>321953783
>1000W
>>321953864
retard.
buy a console or a pre built computer
>>321954040
I looked at a prebuilt with worse specs and it was about $400 extra
>>321953627
What about frametimes, though?
Anyway the 380 is better
>>321953783
>1000w
Maybe if he picks up 2 to sli/crossfire
>>321953783
>1000w
I'm running a 295x2 Housefire Edition on 850w
>>321953220
>waiting for pascal
>not waiting for whatever is after pascal that is going to blow pascal out of the water
>not waiting for the whatever is after the thing that is after pascal
You get the point? How dumb your post is?
>>321954579
>die shrink
>HBM 2
>new architecture
It will be worth waiting for, especially when Nvidia issues card killing and unoptimized drivers again to force people to upgrade
>>321954312
Most newer cards by themselves require 750w+ 150 for everything else.
A 1000w option wouldn't be bad given an 850 over a 1000 is roughly $30 more at bronze efficiency on both.
It would be retarded not to get it.
>>321954357
Upgrade your power supply. It wouldn't be surprising if you just have a system failure every now and again when that card tries to do any real work.
Again both of these instances come down to OP can't hold onto his money if he can't see past a few extra dollars in the long haul.
>>321954579
>wait for this thing that's right around the corner
>GEE YOU MIGHT AS WELL ASK ME TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE UNIVERSE
you're being unreasonable
>>321953006
>>321953006
OP, I built my rig last feb, and its running great WITH a corsair cs450m PSU. I get 45+ fps on TW3, get 60+ on JC3, get 45+ on FO4, get 60+ on GTAV. and thats all very high to max on 1080,
>>321955179
how much worse would performance be if the i5 4460 was replaced with an i3 4160?
>>321955179
>locked cpu
>>321955553
Most people that do overclock fuck it up and ruin their motherboard in the process, probably better that people don't fuck with it.
Overclocking should be left to enthusiast, not to normal people.
>>321955553
>ePenis sizes
>>321955421
I wouldnt imagine much worse, since their both non k's. Id say same results with games. Now editing and compressing and shit like will have different results, but still not much
>>321953627
I found a refurbished 4gb version for like 170 bucks and I couldn't find a 2gb for less than 190.
>>321954829
Yeah, new architecture, that makes my PCI express 3.0 outdated making me buy a new motherboard? Nah, fuck you.
>>321955179
also I run shadow play in those games with no problems
>>321955921
A lot of newer motherboards use tech that isn't even widely used right now. Like M.2
>>321954907
>Most newer cards by themselves require 750w+
u fuckin wot m8
>>321955921
PCI 2.0 isn't saturated yet
If you're thinking about NVlink that will be mostly utilized by enterprises where bandwidth is very important
>>321954907
>Most newer cards by themselves require 750w+
>>321955698
yeah but normal people don't build their own computers
by taking the time to actually assemble your own you're already basically an enthusiast. you don't have to be a /g/ tier computer autist to be an enthusiast.
That said I live in Arizona so fuck overclocking anything ever, everything's already too fucking hot. I get not bothering if you live in a hot climate, it's not worth the effort.
Ignore the people saying the 960 is bad because of [insert technical aspect].
ONLY pay attention to benchmarks.
The 960 is a perfectly good mid tier card. The 4gb isn't really much better than the 2gb because the card has trouble actually taking advantage of the extra memory, but it's also only a little bit more expensive so it's not too much of a rip off.
Don't expect to run things at 4k but you should be able to get all modern games maxed at 1080p without losing frames.
>>321956681
>you should be able to get all modern games maxed at 1080p without losing frames
I have a fairly simple question. I have a 280x in my rig. Is it safe to install crimson yet?
>>321957316
No, updating your graphics drivers is for fags
The drivers that came on the disk with your card are the best and most stable to use
>>321953006
I think I picked up a brand new Zotac version of that same card from New Egg, its a pretty solid card. I'm running GTAV at almost all max settings 1080p 60fps.
Basically, good card. It'll even play Dead Rising 3's shitty port.
>>321953006
they're probably going to launch a ti version in january so you should wait for the price drop and snag a used one for like $140.
>>321956681
Most last gen games I'm at least able to run at 2560x1440p and get 60fps with the 4gb version of the 960.
So far that counts Saints Row 4 and Xenoverse and a few others. I'd say Saints Row 3, but the optimization on it isn't very good...
>tfw replaced my 660 GTX with a R9 390
>playing W3
Oh god I want to have sex with Geralt's clothing textures. Like literally wrap a printout of the mesh around my dick.
>>321957913
They got clothing and armor down for sure
>>321953783
im running a gtx 980 on a 500w
>>321957913
playing with 8gb of gddr5 256 bit is obscenely overpowered no matter what game you really throw at it.
>>321957913
I'm going from GTX580 to GTX 980ti, can't wait to see the difference
>>321958632
Don't expect to be under 60fps 1080p on anything unless it has absolute trash optimization.
>>321958725
sweet
I had to decide on an upgrade since Just Cause 3 runs like shit even at medium settings with this older card even though other games are mostly OK, the temps of my PC are a bit worrying though so it's time for the upgrade
>>321958834
I wouldn't worry to much about the card temps itself unless you get a refurbished card. Then worst solution is cracking it open pulling the fans off and changing the thermal paste.
980ti/r9-390 come with usually huge heat sinks on them.
If you run into temp issues after upgrading to one of these, you might wanna look into your case or how you have your cooling system set up.
both of these cards run relatively quiet and low temp otherwise even when being pushed to their limits.
>>321959268
yeah I bought a new case too, the corsair 750d airflow one and also bought a new water cpu cooler so I think I will be golden
>>321959347
Would it be safe to upgrade to a 390 next year?
>>321953908
This. I bought a second hand 670 to SLI with my current one. When I was testing it the GPU when above 100°C right away. As soon as I replaced the thermal paste it ran at 65°C under load.
>>321959603
the new pascal architecture is meant to be here by next year, it will mean new cards but they will be expensive and I don't imagine them coming out sooner than 2016 Q3 so depends on how much you wanna spend and/or wait I guess
>>321959603
If your power supply can handle it.
>>321959964
I think I have a 500w. Which I'm guessing isn't enough. The Power supply is the one part that I didn't fully grasp how to buy when I put my machine together.
>>321960058
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
hey guys i have an i5-4460 and some money for a card, should i go with the 2gb GTX 960 or the 4gb R9 480?
>>321960339
*380 sorry
>>321960339
Probably the 380 if it's as sturdy as the 280/X.
>>321960339
>didn't get the 'k' version.
>>321960058
390's use a lot of power and run quite hot.
You may be able to run with 500w but I would reccomend 650w to be safe as a minimum. Also make sure the power supply has all the necessary cables.
>>321960765
My 390 came with a 6 to 8 pin adapter so it'll probably be fine. Probably.
>tfw cpu bottlenecking the shit out of my gpu
>gpu barely up to get up to 30% on some games while cpu is hitting the thermal margin
any way to change the thermal margin limit? its set at only 70c for me which seems awfully low
>>321960894
Sometimes low wattage power supplies don't have 8 pin connectors.
>>321960583
the what?
>>321956681
I got OPs card and its great
playing everything out right now on ultra just fine
>>321954040
> buy sosnoole
Cocksol peasant pls.
>>321953220
the fuck is pascal?
>>321960765
This, if you care about power consumption get a 960, it only needs one 6 pin connector and if you get this one it's tiny and quiet as fuck.
>>321961092
Your i5-4660 has a "K" version the "i5-4660k".
"K" versions are unlocked which let you overclock.
>>321961338
a scammer.
A ship deck carpet is not worth a fucking scallop.
>>321961338
Next Nvidia architecture, 1000 series or whatever.
>>321961362
I dont trust a graphics card unless it takes two connectors
Is AMD releasing a 395x2?
The 960 is the lowest tier card I advise anyone get these days.
Any lower and you won't be able to play most new games at optimal performance in the coming years.
That being said, you really should just suck it up and jump to the 970 or higher.
PC gaming is expensive. Trying to "budget" a build is nonsensical because a build where you skimp on internak components is going to last you exponentially less time than a more expensive one would. For example, you also shouldn't go less than 16 gb of ram. Yeah, you can get by with 8 now, but futureproofing is king when building a PC.
If you allbsolutely NEED to skimp, then do it on the external components (keyboard, mouse, monitor, sound system, etc.)
>>321961610
>tfw got a 660 december of 2014 like a dummy
i really should upgrade
>>321961369
do you think the i5-4460 will bottleneck if i get a GTX 970 or a R9 390?
>>321961834
Yes, that CPU will bottle neck every GPU. Your best bet is to get an i7 and 32GB of RAM.
>>321955179
>that scrollbar
>those buttons
Hey did you customize your desktop? Post pic of desktop.
>>321961834
Yes.
But I do not think the bottle neck will be so extreme that it will ruin your FPS
>>321961610
but this is only true if you actually do enjoy bamham, assassins creed, etc. which a large amount of pc players dont
also how is a $200 card "budget"?
wanting solid price/preformance is not budget senpai
>>321953220
how much is nvidia paying you to shill? i need to know cuz i want some of that money, nigga
>>321953006
Get 380. Period.
All the shilling boils down to 380 being budget king. 390 midrange king. And 980ti performance king.
>>321961834
The amount of retard questions I see in these threads fucking amazes me. How the fuck do people own PCs but not know basic knowledge?
>>321954040
a 960 still destroys a ps4
>>321962208
actually nvidia wants to sell everything they can right now
>>321962074
CPU will only bottleneck if it is a poorly optimized piece of shit like FO4.
>>321962218
isn't the 380 just the 290x renamed
>>321962179
>how is a $200 card "budget"?
any kind of tolerable performance starts at 200, next steps 300-400-500-650, see why it's a budget?
>>321957913
>>tfw replaced my 660 GTX with a R9 390
my nigga me too im gonna wait for witcher 3 to be cheaper though senpai saving up for a free sync monitor
>>321962437
Power draw adjusted r9 285, not 290x.
>>321962208
Why would Nvidia tell people to wait? They want people to buy the fuck out of Maxwell cards so they can dumpster it with Pascel like they did with the Kepler cards.
>>321962437
1. Thats not true
2. You could say the same about the 700 series in comparison with the 600 series.
>>321962437
380 is the 285/90
390 is the 290x
>>321962628
>>321962607
>>321962591
oh shit i was wrong it was this one >>321962705
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com/
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
There you go, OP, knock yourself out.
>>321961610
>GTX 970
I'm so confused.
/v/ constantly shuts on this card but every time I see a detailed post on builds like yours, you guys have no problem reccomending it.
What gives?
>>321962938
The 970 is the AK-47 of cards.
It's an amazingly affordable high tier card for beginners and despite not actually being 4gb, it's still very futureproofed.
However, in the hands of a super serious PC enthusiast, there are better cards, but they can cost many hundreds of dollars more.
I can understand some people wanting more than the 970 can output, especially if they want to game in 4K, but going cheaper than the 970 is dangerous waters for the future.
>>321962938
le 3.5 vram meme
>>321962938
How is the 970 seen as better?
The 390 has x2 the amount of VRAM and has the similar performance in other aspects although slower clock speed.
>>321962938
Look up the problem of 3.5GB + 0.5GB of SLOW ASS STUTTERY BUTTERY RAM
>>321963096
clock speeds do not matter, 1250 390 performs the same as 1500 970. proven multiple times.
>>321961610
you can upgrade ram anytime its not that expensive. 8 is more than enough even if you have browsers,skypes and games on its still a lot
>>321963048
>Very futureproofed
Nigga you stupid? The moment games start eating more than 3.5 gb of VRAM the card is toast. Games now are already pushing the boundary for the limit and we aren't even in 2016 yet.
>>321963096
>How is the 970 seen as better?
because AMD.
And if you still don't know, in 2015, why that's a bad thing, then you're a lost cause.
>>321963048
>The 970 is the AK-47 of cards.
funny. no, truly.
>>321963291
You need to look at the logistics of things.
The current generation of games is bottlenecked by the immensely underpowered consoles out right now.
No AAA game is going to ship if it is too taxing to be played on X1/PS4 and maybe NX.
Because of this, the 970 will suffice for any entry level high tier rig for the forseeable future.
If the Xbox Two was coming out next year, then yeah, I'd not reccomend the 970, but because of where things are frozen right now, it's more than enough for all high settings on 1080p for years to come.
>>321963293
>then you're a lost cause
Or maybe I'm just uninformed?
Did you make that post just to act smug or to answer a damn question?
>>321963628
>Comparing processing power of X1/PS4 to the PC and think they scale with relation to each other
Haha. No.
>>321962938
buyers remorse, when the card just came out it went off the shelves like hot cakes, and it was good deal at a time. And two months later problems(nvidia flat out lied to customers), and better cards appeared.
>>321963628
Need I remind you that a year ago in 2014, 2 GB VRAM was suffice for 1080p gaming.
Yes/no?
>>321963293
faggots like this never answer why they think amd is bad cuz they just follow the memes
>>321963628
You know that ram is not an issues, issues is 960 OUTPERFORMS 780ti in some games. How is that for future proof?
>>321963939
Yes. Best single card GPU at the moment. But if you have a good enough card, just hold off till Pascal.
>>321961834
Assuming you got this recently, why didnt you just get a 4590 or shell out the extra 50 for 4690
>>321963939
if you can afford it without a second thought, yes.
>>321964008
That is just Nvidia being jew and making Maxwell shit on Kepler. I won't expect anything different when Pascal comes out.
i bought a 960 since pascall is soon.
However, when exactly are they coming out?
If its at the end of next year i might get another 960.
Is it worth it to have 2 960s? How much of a performance increase would i have?
Or would shit crash constantly cause nothings optimised for 960 sli?
Also, since im tech iliterate i got fooled into buying the 960 4gb, for like 10 dollars extra.
>>321963939
Get a 390 instead. x2 VRAM and same performance, only reason not to get is if your power supply cannot handle it.
AUSSSIEEE
>>321963939
>Almost 600 for that
You better have a good reason behind that
>>321964197
He's Australian
Source: Am Australian.
>>321963293
how to spot a shill 101
>never facts
>that is better just because
>that is bad, don't you know that? everyone knows
>marketing jargon slipping, huge two paragraph posts
>>321964169
980 Ti is 6GB
>>321964308
Nope, Amazon US
>>321963797
You're missing the point, that being that regardless of the era, the consoles of the time set the bar for what the minimum optimization of any AAA game should perform at while still looking "good".
This is a double edged sword.
On one hand, consoles are necessary to the AAA industry even existing because there's nowhere near large enough of an install base on PC for them to ship exclusively for PC, but on the other hand this results in games being held back from further improving over large blocks of time. Sure, devs manage to make slight improvements over the years, but for the most part, games are kept from being able to really improve in a major sense until the next "generation" arrives.
TL;DR because of how held back the modern AAA industry is by the X1/PS4, the 970 will co tinge to suffice as an affordable option for playing at high settings until the next generation of consoles resets the bar for what is acceptable.
>>321957913
>replaced my two SLI GTS 450s with a 390 when I was below JC3's minimum specs
>still only get 60fps on that unoptimized game
>>321964169
that's Ti
>>321964167
Q2 2016.
>SLI or Xfire any card
>SLI or Xfire a fucking mid range card
Don't go full fucking retard anon. SLI or Xfire is almost 100% never worth the trouble. Ever.
>>321964365
Oh shit my autism is so strong.
I read that as 970.
Here in Australia you pay $500-$600 for a 970 or 390.
>>321964445
This. Never worth it, always issues. Not to mention occasional microstutter.
>>321964401
Except high texture mods and other shit exist. Already there has been screenshots of games running above 3.5 gb worth of VRAM. Most of the time it is due to shitty coding by the developers due to how VRAM works vs SRAM. All it needs is one game to use 3+ gb worth of VRAM and be poorly coded and your card is borked. X1 and PS4 haven't reached their maximum potential as well either.
>>321964401
did you miss the memo? games eat up to 5gb vram and 16gb ram just for the heck of it.
>>321964456
what the fuck mate mine was $300
>>321964656
>>321964679
Mms me a game that I can't play at 1080p with a 970.
Go on, I'll wait.
>>321964685
Where did you get it from???
People do not even sell pre owned cards that low.
>>321964456
>$500-$600 for a 970 or 390.
this could be some expert aussie rusing, this can't be true
>>321964750
Are you fucking retarded? Or merely pretending now?
>>321964456
i paid 918$ with taxes for mine in Soviet Canada
and it was on sale, its usually around 900+tx and it was 799+tx
>>321964776
Australia still has data caps.
1st world country my fucking anus.
>>321964815
So no games then.
Thought so.
Thanks for proving my point.
>>321964750
mordor still drops frametimes on ultra textures
well, that was easy
>>321960583
Some people don't need the multiplier or a K CPU. a lot people just use an affordable CPU as a start when their mapping their upgrade path, my friend went from a Intel Pentium G3258 to an i7 because needed it for rendering. some people buy 750ti then on straight up 980 since the 750ti has a decent resell value.
>>321964776
Most PC parts are really pricy.
You cannot build a decent PC for less than $1500 and that is tower alone.
where the fuck are people getting all these refurbs
>>321964960
At least the G3258 is unlocked.
>>321964892
Why are you taxed so much?
>>321964918
Proving what point?
Did you even read the thread of post before posing? My guess is not. Because it was never about 970 being able to play current games or not. Fuck off you shitty troll.
>>321965105
Because it is 2015 and Canada needs the money for diversity
>>321964956
Nope.
Averages 60, often hits higher.
Try again.
I hope everyone is watching this btw so you can see how misinformed AMD memeposters are.
>>321964909
Data caps??
We have unlimited internet too.
But we have shit speeds and its overpriced.
I have unlimited internet + home phone (national, international, mobile calls). I pay $90 a month and get around 350 kb/s download.
>>321964445
kk thanks, q2 isnt so bad
>>321964764
Newegg near black friday
>>321965276
>90 dollar
>350 kb/s
This thread is a painful example of the kind of people who buy nvidia products. Jesus fucking christ. Look at you
>>321965034
amazon and ebay of couse. i don't know why people are so against buying used when you're literally guaranteed your money back if it doesn't work. it's even worse if someone sells bunk electronics on ebay because you'll get banned/blacklisted.
>>321965142
Still no examples?
Just empty shitposting?
Go ahead.
Name a game.
ONE GAME that can't be run at full HD with the 970.
It's been 15 minutes now. Are you willing to admit you're full of shit?
>>321965295
forgot image
So as long as I don't upgrade my GTX 970 drivers they can't cripple it trying to make me buy new shit right?
Man, microsoft, nvidia and intel are all trying to screw everybody. What the hell is technology doing.
>>321953006
>960
>the shittiest of nvidias lineup
970 and 980 are the only decent cards, with the 980 being the better.
AMD GPU's are shit right now.
>>321965391
Fuck off and read the thread. I ain't spoonfeeding you. You still thinking I was contesting the fact that the 970 can't play current games goes to show how stupid you are.
>>321965237
>I hope everyone is watching this btw so you can see how misinformed AMD memeposters are.
EVGA 970 AVG FPS = 71
Sapphire R9 390 AVG FPS = 81
Are you retarded or something?
It makes no sense to buy 970.
390 is same price and TWICE the amount of VRAM
>>321963048
more like the shitty early m16 because those things jammed a fuckton and the 970 has 0.5gb of super slow memery
>coming to /v/ for advice
Seriously these threads are so full of retards or people trolling you'd be better off asking your local Jewish merchant which prebuilt you should buy
>>321965456
This is AUD?
Wow this was a crazy deal.
>>321965512
>admitting defeat
Thank you.
Believe it or not, you actually did a good service to the thread. Now anons know not to avoid the 970 in fear that it can't play games at full HD for the years to come just because of stupid memes.
>>321965664
USD, so ~1100 AUD
>>321965680
>Name one game it can't play
>That must means it can play all games for years to come
>>321965237
why do you pretend you have no idea what frametiems is?
and >>321965579 this
is shilling salary that low? can't they hire someone a bit more competent
>>321964776
Im from chile and the 970 costs 650US
>>321953006
solid card OP, but i wouldnt spend the extra cash on the 4gb model. Unless you want to play modded skyrim with some ricer enb.
try waiting for when they go on sale for 180.
try looking into the 380x too if you really want more vram. great card too
>>321965579
>buying AMD
>in 2015
How much are they paying you?
I want in.
>>321965816
hey foreigner check out this freedom
>>321965456
>>321965756
Still great price.
You would have to pay 1k AUD for the GPU and CPU alone
>>321965512
>AMD fanboy flat out giving up
Wow, I'm surprised. I was watching this Kermode between you two wondering what would happen but you just got exposed hard.
>>321965456
>that kb+m combo
I almost got that for $20. Then I researched into keyboards for the first time; CM, Razer, Steelseries, Azio, Aula, Motospeed, Warwolf. How did they turn out?
>>321965937
hm, how much is ps4 in Aus? $900?
>>321965986
Pretending you are another anon doesn't make you look better retard.
help me v, you're my only hope aside from research and common sense
planning on buying GTX970 + i5 4690, yet to decide on a motherboard, please give some recommendations and advice for each.
>hurr seagate
>where 16gb
>1 tv??
>dick drive in 2016
>>321965768
You lost kid, it doesn't mean you have to like it, but unless you suddenly thought of 1 (ONE) game, then you best just stop making empty shitposts. The whole thread just watched you get BTFO.
>>321966067
Either buy office KB+M or spend for that fancy mech keyboard. Don't bother with in betweens.
>>321966079
>get BTFO
>resort to start calling people retarded
just stop posting anytime now
>>321965937
You should leave that terrible place
>>321966067
I'm not using the mouse but the keyboard seems to be fairly high quality for the price. The only problem I have with it is that the backlights are bound to scrlk
>>321966084
The only one being embarrassed is you to be honest as you pretend to argue a topic no one even brought up.
>>321966083
any motherboard with minimal number of features you need
i'd take matx with decent number of usb ports and audio, that's all you need most of the time,
they are like 30-50.
>>21966079
just report him, he's the one who has to live in denial that his 970 can't run GTA V with 8x MSAA.
>>321966068
PS4/Xbox One 500gb = $399
PS4/Xbox One 1tb = $499
You can also get bundles for $500+ which include games
>>321966083
You do need a disk drive fuck anyone who says that you don't
You should actually spend some cash on your mobo, don't cheap out on it
>>321965097
and still has terrible performance, quad core or you may as well buy AMD cpu
>>321966160
I always used a standard rubber dome one from the early 2000's. I found a Deathstalker copy by Redragon with backlight for $20 to try out.
>>321966270
This level of desparity is fucking hilarious.
He asked you straight up for ONE GAME, just one, and you couldn't answer him.
You danced around the topic like a JV politician.
You're exposed as shit and your tears are glorious.
>>321966191
How did he get BTFO? All he did was mention that 970 wasn't futureproof because games were pushing the VRAM boundaries and it might get worse in 2016. Then you jump him with hurr durr name one game it can't play atm.
>>321966559
Did I ever mention 970 can't play one current game? Go ahead. Quote that post. If not I prefer you stay quiet.
>>321966405
Can't expect much for a $40 CPU.
>>321966083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkAzPXSvyoY
>>321966573
Except it's been proven multiple times in this thread alone that it's futureproffed just fine.
But go ahead, keep memeposting.
>>321966559
This is just sad now anon. Pretending to be 2 anons.
>>321966660
How do you get to 4.8ghz stable.
>>321953006
don't listen to these retards get 4 gb card
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-vs-4gb-review
>>321966662
>Except it's been proven multiple times in this thread alone that it's futureproffed just fine.
Go ahead. Where is the proof?
>>321966405
muh cores
>>321964043
This! When I got my 4590 the 4460 cost 20 bucks more
>>321966764
you get lucky
>Get a 970
>Get a R9 390
>Get a fucking 980ti
2 of those are an entires weeks pay check and the other is 2 paychecks. FUCK OFF with your meme cards.
>>321967472
get a better job u slacker
or learn to save
>>321967472
but a 380 is better than a 960.
>>321967472
post your budget limit if you want good answers, just saying you want a good bang for a buck card will almost always net you 390
>>321967472
>not putting it on a credit card and paying it off in small monthly payments
>>321966660
Can't say I expected to find a comparison video between cards of a 5 year release gap, but still interesting that OCd it can reach the power of a half-decade more recent CPU.
I'm not planning on OCing mine because I have no fucking clue what I'm doing and I don't want to put any unnecessary wear on either the CPU or motherboard for the sake of longevity, so I'd rather have a card running naturally at a higher output.
>>321967590
How so?
>>321967472
>2GB
Enjoy 15 fps in anything released this year
>>321967706
see
>>321966778
better in every game benchmarked in that article, only seen the 960 win in fallout 4 but tweaking godray settings would probably
put it back in the lead.
>>321967684
>calling a CPU a card
>unnecessary wear on either the CPU or motherboard for the sake of longevity
And yeah, and i7 with 8 threads to an i5 with 4 is a sideways upgrade.
Also pro-tip: it has turbo boost anyway unless you disable it (although it's only fastest when 1 core is being utilized). And if you don't touch vcore, overclocking has literally zero effect on longevity, retard.
>>321953006
>960
im pretty sure the 380X outperforms it
>>321967571
Nah, fuck that. I get around 440 before taxes rape 104 of that.
>>321967596
my budget was 600 dollars. I built this.
>i5 4590
>GTx 960gt
>12gb Ram
>1tb HDD
>PC mate Z97 mobo
For $490
>>321967590
But when i bought my 960 its was 60 bucks cheaper for barely 8% decrease in performance.
>>321967642
I have no credit
>>321967817
I get 45-60fps on very high in Witcher 3 I think I'm straight.
>he fell for the 4gb 960 meme
Fuck off
>>321967642
>paying more in the end through payments instead of setting some aside each month until you have enough to buy it in a single purchase
Moron
>>321968032
also hilarious to point out you can't even use nvidias own proprietary features in witcher 3 without playing at sub 30 fps.
nvidia sure loves all of their customers.
>>321968189
enjoy having $300 in your bank account for the rest of your life
>>321968189
>>he fell for the 4gb 960 meme
I didn't buy a 960 in the first place, dipshit.
>>321968189
>>321968215
>not building credit
Had a friend like that. Laughed my ass off when he wanted to buy a car.
>>321968315
>implying
>>321968378
Congrats
>>321968189
you don't need Z97 mobo for non k CPU, you don't need 12 gb RAM, go with 8, 16 if you really want some futureproofing, but you can add 8gb later when you have money.. Where is you PSU and enclosure?
I don't know where you're from, so I don't know what kind of dollaroos these are.
Switch 960 with 380 4gb if you can. I don't know if cheap i5s on skylake are out, but if they're not, you might want to wait, Skylake can be OCd on BCLK
>>321968501
Sorry, I meant "less than $300"
>>321954579
>under one year to the first groundbreaking upgrade in twelve years
totally unrelated friend
>>321968493
I'll just buy a used one fore 600$ and then buy a new one once it breaks down in 3 months.
>>321968532
I already have all that was posted.
>>321953006
>960
>4gb
That's like hooking a flatbed to a golf cart. You may have the space but not the power to actually use it.
>>321968596
try $6,000
>>321968532
>Buying skylake CPU to OC
Anon please
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3012030/components-processors/intel-skylake-cpus-reportedly-bending-under-pressure-from-third-party-coolers.html
>>321968668
Nope. It's $500-1200 If I barely looked.
>>321968735
Anon, those cars have serious issues. You can get more than that from a dealership in cash and twice that in trade-in for a working car
if you intend to build another computer in 2 years or will be content playing games at lower settings, then get the 960
It seems stupid to spend all this money just to have to do it again soon after. Go for a card with a good bang for a buck factor.
>>321968931
>Anon, those cars have serious issues.
I know but I'm poor
See
>>321968596
>I'll just buy a used one for 600$ and then buy a "new" one once it breaks down in 3 months.
I usually take the bus anyways it's cheaper since my life consist of going to work and coming home to shit post on /v/
>>321969121
>$1000 now = $1000 every year to keep replacing the cars when they shit out on you
spend a couple grand and get something that can last a few years
>>321969261
I'd rather buy a bicycle.
Would FX-8350 bottleneck 980 Ti?
I know the answer is probably yes, so what would be the best CPU to pair with it?
Also, how long until new cards come out? I want that pricedrop.
![snowmanbike[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5tRXYg3.jpg "snowmanbike[1].jpg")
>>321969489
>pic related it's you getting pulled over for being a dumbass
>>321969597
Car for winter bike for every other time duh you cunt bucket.
>>321968726
don't move around your shit with cooler installed. It doesn't break if you just put it on and do nothing with it.
>The problem appears to happen while shipping or moving a PC, when sudden shocks and other movement can put pressure on the mount point and bend the CPU, causing damage to the socket pins in the motherboard.
Did you even read article you're linking?
>>321969648
>I don't have a car
>buy a bike!
>now I have even less money for a car and it's already winter
>>321969527
>>321969814
I've had the same bike for 6 years now.
>>321953006
Get the r9 380 4gb instead.
>>321970181
I've had the same car for 6 years now.
>>321969887
wow, this benchmark is absolutely meaningless without context
>>321970439
ok. I'm happy for younow give it to me.
Ignore the 4gb meemer reemers and get a 970
>>321962559
Are you aware of the steam sale? It's not going to be cheaper any time soon.
>>321970809
earn it for yourself you welfare shit
>>321970972
I wish I got welfare. I get not form of gvmt assis.
>>321971414
apply for food stamps
>>321968047
Hey man, I said I had no fucking clue what I was talking about, no need to throw in retard. Calling it a card just cause GPU/CPU letter difference and I'm watching TV while typing. Cheers for advice though.
>>321961338
Pascal and Arctic Islands are the code names for the next series of GPUs from Nvidia and AMD.
They will feature a die shrink to 14nm and 2nd generation HBM.
