What's /v/ opinion on first person dungeon crawlers?
I like them
>>321946528
Is Raidy considered as a dungeon crawler? If so, i like them.
>>321947197
Never played any but seems like it. There's actually a lot of H dungeon crawlers, I recommend Bunny Black.
I can never finish them for some reason. Always get bored about 3/4 way in.
>>321946528
RPGs a shit
>>321946528
i want topetthat dwarf
I really enjoy them and wish there were more good ones. There have been a few out recently but I hear literally no talk about them so I assume they aren't very memorable. I should give them a shot though.
>>321946528
They're fun, but in small bursts.
Although Class of Heroes 2 is pretty shitty for breaking the golden rules of build-a-party RPGs and limiting your choices arbitrarily.
CoH1 is a remake of a wizardry title. Alchemy grinding a +9 gear set turns it from rocket-tag to face roll for a long time though... Up to post game really.
The EO series is overall good.
PersonaQ is... an oddball with poor balancing.
DemonGaze is rocket tag or curbstomp, with nothing inbetween.
Mind=Zero is alright, but it's balance is pretty much you're either face rolling or getting stomped, and the difference is two levels of xp.
Can't think of any others atm.
>>321948728
>Although Class of Heroes 2 is pretty shitty for breaking the golden rules of build-a-party RPGs and limiting your choices arbitrarily.
How so?
>>321949028
The races are restricted in what classes they can take, most obviously because they included art for each class, but didn't want to do each race/class combination.
Where the original, if you could roll up the stat points, you could make any race any class you want. Allowing you to set up any party you wanted.
Also, it's guide begging, because there's no indication if you can't make them the class because of stats, or because of racial lockout.
>Dwarf is literally a dog person
I'm still mad. I still really enjoyed the game though.
>>321949390
I think they were called kobolds in the nip release.
>>321948728
>EO
I tried to like EO but got sick of having to draw maps all the damn time.
>>321950176
As someone who likes it, it does get annoying at times.
>>321949559
They're tagged as dwarf in moon runes on pixiv, so nope.
>>321950176The map drawing is the best part of EO
They're pretty comfy. I like to always imagine my party are a close group of inseparable friends that each have their own unique personality and like to bicker and argue a lot but ultimately care about each other.
>>321950329
>>321950528
I didn't mind it at first but after a few floors it became a real chore.
>>321949390
>>321949559
It's a rawulf, but whoever owns Wizardry now also owns that name. There's a nekomimi race in CoH called felpier and a race of anthropomorphic felines called felpur in Wizardry.
>>321946528
I personally prefer aRPGs but they're okay when you get the ball rolling.
>>321950176
There's an automap option in the 3DS games.
>>321947997
This happened to me In EO4 when I had to backtrack and find the altars and Demon Gaze after I fought that one chick in the tunnel/cave thing. I love EO3 and 4 though. Demon gaze is ok.
>>321949371
Well, you couldn't do any class right away.
Unless you were retardedly lucky and rolled a 50 or something, but that's a blue moon.
>>321951034
This
>walk a step forward in a hallway
>turn left
>check wall for secret
>turn right, turn right
>check wall for secret
>repeat 90 times per floor
>>321948728
Rocket tag?
i'm thinking about picking up Moero Chronicles for dat lewd and Stranger of Sword City has some GOAT art
>>321952171
>that fucking font on the western version
>>321948728
Unchained Blades for the PSP and 3DS was pretty fun. It's mostly a story driven dungeon crawler though so no class building. Also had a neat system of catching and taming monsters as you followers and such.
>>321954180
>neat
It was shit, especially because your skills were tied to it.
>>321951840
>TFW Sir-tech is dead.
They can be really fun, but I think what made this one in particular was the potential party members and their customizeable skills.
>>321954713
Yeah it probably only made up like 10% of your battle damage but I still found it to be an alright game.
>>321951840
You forgot Space Rhinos, Hamster, Spider, Lizardman, and Dragon.
>>321954993
>tfw they got taken by different company
>make it an mmo
>instead of using establish races, they had the generic human/elve/dwarf along with some random loli race that isn't a fairy
This is fucking bullshit
>>321955163
>other unchained games in english never
kill me
>>321955354
I think only dragons are in CoH though.
>>321952171
holy shit i cant wait for this
the art looks fucking amazing
>>321949559
>polt
my nigga
>>321956063
You meet up with a dragon in 8 and I got dragon and dracon mix up.
>>321948728
Try Dungeon Travelers 2.
>>321952150
They fixed that on EO2, I think.
>>321948728
artist?
>>321954180
>look up Unchained Blades
>digital-only
Meh, just like fucking Ray Gigant.
>>321956313
I'm talking about Class of Heroes, not Wizardry.
>>321956067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgvKZmjnrAs
Right? I'm super hyped for it
>>321952149
It only took around 15-20 to get any class you wanted with pretty much any race.
>>321952171
Rocket Tag boils down to "Whoever hits first is gonna win."
>>321956505
That's for Vita right? Might just.
>>321956218
What can I say, appearently got a soft spot for active girls with huge hands.Felicia being my waifu.
>>321946528
They're alright, but I just can't get into them. I'll play for a few days and then drop the game and pick it up after 6 months. Still haven't beaten EO4 yet, and I bought it two years ago.
On the other hand, Dungeon Traveler 2 was a lot of fun, and it was the first of its genre where I didn't drop the game after a week and played it from start to finish in a few days.
>>321958238plus she has a nice fit ass
>Play DT2
>Options include movement tweaks like turning around or just backstepping when hitting down
>One-way/hidden passages can be accessed by bumping into walls
>No annoying screams from party members when hitting a solid wall
>End up dungeon travelling without turning at all since everything of significance is on the map.
They're a dime a dozen. There are a billion of them on Vita and they all look like shit. It really takes a special one to make me even think about playing them.
>>321958238
im not a furrywhere the fuck do i find moar
>>321956428
>No annoying screams from party members when hitting a solid wall
That was disappointing tbqhwy super famicom. I can do that shit for hours in Experience games, I hope Stranger delivers.
>>321957926
Not for ninja.
Ninja had high ass recs that required some races with optimal rolls.
Other races had to level into it.
>>321960668
The usual places. Sadly, Polt is a tertiary character in Monster Girls, so there isn't much.
>>321960902
Hmm, yeah... Absolute worst takes 32, and the best still takes 25...
>>321949559
>furshit
The hell crabman.
>>321962851
Polt is great.
>>321963801
>says the furry
>Apparently has tsundere and imouto as a class in later games
>puts more in the affinity/relationship mechanic by letting you create relationships between characters
Weeb-ish, but the Class of Heroes sequels still sounds fun in a dumb way
>>321946528
They're super interesting.
>>321954180
>monster taming
Downloading right now
>tfw rerolling character creation for 40 minutes until I get a character with 38 bonus stats
Fucking Class of Heroes, I never spend so much time creating characters.
>>321968649
Try Wizardry 6.
I just bought Demon Gaze. Is it any good?
>>321969409
It's serviceable. The first dungeon is maddening but the difficulty drops pretty hard when you get a full party.
>>321969632
And then you go underwater.
>>321969771
And then the game is still easy even on the hardest difficulty and you get disappointed.
>>321946528
I love the genre and many of my favourite titles are first person dungeon crawlers but I get frustrated when I think about all the different tweaks to the Wizardry formula that could be made compared to how little experimentation devs have been trying. It's upsetting that even recent titles still cling to certain mechanics even if they clash with the rest of the game just because Wizardry had them.
>>321968649
It's not even worth it in the long run, because stats average out over levels.
>>321971561
Oh, it's like I'm in the long defunct /dcg/.
