If people thought this wasn't dead,, it sure as hell is now
How is this news? No one knows who that person is.
>>321940863DAMAGE CONTROL
>>321941128
Wait, are you just a faggot that's picked a side in some imaginary RPG war?
>>321940691
I don't know what he worked on before, so I can't say if it was a good thing.
If he worked on ME 1, well then fuck.
If he was responsible for DA 2, well then fuck him.
First couple of google clicks say he worked on Gears of War before, as well as a couple of other big name companies, but without any specifics.
Nothing of value, etc. etc.
>>321940691
>If people thought this wasn't dead,, it sure as hell is now
>Inconsequential guy leaves
>100s of millions of dollars franchise's next installment is dead
Yeah mate, sick pal.
>>321943719
>Nothing of value, etc. etc.
Certainly applies to the Mass Effect franchise in totality at this point.
>>321945000
>>Inconsequential
He was the game's director. Its not inconsequential.
A director leaving mid-production is almost always a sign of trouble.
>>321940691
Nothing good can come from a company with EA's poisonous tentacles invading every orifice. Eventually you just get sick of having tentacles up your ass working your mouth like a puppet.
I'll stick with the superior open world space RPG
>>321945342
It'll be fine. He's only the director, it's not like he's a coder.
>>321945898
What's this
>>321940691
i realized it was a dead a few hours into 3
>>321946836
EVE Online.
>>321946978
Is it good
>>321940691
What happened?
>>321947086
No.
I lost interest as soon as they revealed that you're a human n7 again
>>321947124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rgRLZDf8OI
>>321940691
How possible would a "Morroblivion" style mod for Mass Effect be? Adding the punchier TPS gameplay to 1, which is better in literally everything else, would be better than anything Bioware can make now.
>>321940691
It was dead when they put a guy who thinks Gone Homo is a game in charge of gameplay, and when they put Hack Walters in charge.
>>321940691
JUST
>>321940691
>>321943349
Well last time higher ups left during development of a Bioware game, we got Dragon Age 2.
Imagine the scum-sucker they'll get to replace him.
Am I the only one that stopped caring about this game when they found out you have to play as a human. All these intersesting races and I have to play as a random human who will somehow lead this dumb race to be the best in the universe despite it not deserving it at all. Why can I be one of the actually interesting races?
>>321947086
Yes. But niche too, and also far far from what it could have been. Huge wasted potential, but might be worth a spin if only to see how that kind of game can be since stuff like SWG is long dead.
>>321947086
No.
>>321947871
This. An actual sandbox galaxy exploran game that lets me choose my gender/race from the already existing cultures would be excellent.
>>321947124
EA drove another employee to quit out of desperation.
>>321947203
>>321947890
Who should i believe
>>321947573
>earliest game is 2009
Always a good sign somebody knows jack shit about games.
You at least need a single pre 2007 in your list, that's all I'm asking for here.
>>321947303
>>321947871
>>321948054
>>321948236
The guy who said Yes felt the need to justify it, so I'm guessing it's a no.
It's ok, the writer of the entire Mass Effect series left in the middle of Mass Effect 2's development and Bioware managed to salvage that project. I have faith that this long-awaited continuation of the franchise will be absolutely incredible!
It will release. It will be epic. I will enjoy it. /v/ will piss their pants because they can't have fun.
>>321948385
More like EA didn't have time to completely fuck it up.
ME2 is a good game, but I hate to think how bad it would be if it had been made 2-5 years later.
>>321948532
I have fun making fun of people eating shit, so we both win.
>>321940691
>>321940863
>>321941128
>>321941550
>>321943349
U KEN TELL THT 2 KANJUKKUBL
>>321940691
Was that Casey Hudson or has ANOTHER guy quit?
>>321948341
That might actually be the dumbest thing i've ever read or heard in relation to video games.
Anyone can make a better game than Bioware, so I think I will like this
>>321948341
Well, he's right. Even movies with women or minorities as the main characters tend to flop horribly because people want a self-insert 99 times out of 100.
>>321947086
what these anons are not telling you is that you do not control your ship directly in any meaningful sense of the word. when combat starts, the game slows down to accomodate the amount of players. so a battle that takes 5 minutes real time could take hours. as you wait 15 minutes to send a command that says shoot. then 15 minutes as it shoots. then 15 minutes to find out if you hit.
>>321948236
niether. you might like it, but its NOT some space combat sim where you control it from the cockpit. this is how you control your ship. you click an co-ord, and wait for it to move there.it just looks really really pretty.
>>321948281
>tfw no time machine to get hired to make actually good games
I guess bending the laws of space time are required to churn out anything better than the average vidya fare these days though
keep those standards high, anon
>>321947890
I miss SWG, hell, I would take post nge too, just to play it againWe're talking about Star Wars Galaxys, right?
>>321948706
>kill bill
>the girl with the dragon tattoo
>hunger games
>tomb raider movies
>that one saw movie where the chick was the MC
>>321948341
There are hundreds maybes thousands of games where you play as things not even remotley human. If someone has trouble relating to a character then it's probobly because it's badly written. Seeing as the mass effect protaganist has no personality whatsoever the only real reason that they wouldn't let you be one is that they are incapable of writing a good non human protaganistor cant write a story where you anything other than a human leading humanity to be better than all the other races.
>>321947871
>>321948054
So you anons basically want a Bethesda RPG in space?
It'd be a ridiculously massive undertaking and the narrative will have to take a huge blow to accommodate all the different alien races. Realistically it wouldn't work at all.
>>321948991
I actually DO want more diversity in games, I just don't want forced diversity in series that don't have it. You want to make a game set in south america filled with pre-spics, be my guest I'd play it, but don't cry when games that aren't filled with token multiculturalism have homogeneous casts.
I like Mass Effect.
>Mass Effect will never get the treatment it deserves
I genuinely fucking love the first two games.
Fucking shame.
>>321949551
no one said there are no games, just that these games dont sell well. and hes right. take a look at pretty much any top selling games ever list. its all people, or somewhat human like. hell, the only one i can find that is even close to not being human is lemmings, and what are they? 2 legged, 2 handed, 2 eyed creatures with a head of hair. its just a stumpy man.
>>321949807
I love the first one despite it's DEEP gameplay and mechanics and UI issues, and I love the second despite it's story/continuity and character-build depth issues.
ME3 is the one I could't love, even though it had some notable gameplay and mechanics improvements.
>>321948341
>It's okay to be uninspired because people can't relate
I love safe art.
>>321948809
Well it's going to be like 10 years + before people have accrued enough experience for me to bump up that date.
>>321950213
and you would have mass effect 1 and...then the series would be cancelled because of low sales. cant have it both ways.although that might of been for the best
>>321948341
>You can fuck anyone and anything, but you better not be a shitlord, cis scum
>But you HAVE to be human
>>321940691
EA must became even more of an oppressor,
>>321950213
It's a AAA game aimed at a large audience. Of course it's playing it safe.
>>321949574
It would be pretty much the same. Imagine the first game with a non human protag. the only differencewould be involving humans in council stuff. You might even still be the first spector of yor chosen race. Obviosly it wouldn't be as easy as im making it sound but it wouln't that hard either. The written in these games is definatley expansive but it's no great.
>>321947871
YES YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE ON THIS ENTIRE PLANET WHO HAS EVER THOUGHT THAT THOUGHT. YOU ARE SUCH AN UNIQUE PERSON WHO IS THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE THAT OBSERVATION. MANY STRIVE TO BE LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS SHELL OF AN EXISTENCE WE CALL LIFE WHO HAS EVER MADE THIS OBSERVATION. THE FUTURE HAS ALREADY RECOGNIZED YOU AS THE ONLY PERSON TO EVER IN THIS HISTORY OF THIS PLANET TO MAKE THIS SOCIAL COMMENTARY ON THIS PARTICULAR IDEA OR EVOLUTION. IT IS QUITE REMARKABLE HOW ONLY YOU, AND NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS WAY OF THINKING. I COMMEND YOU SIR HERALD OF THIS DYSTOPIA.
>>321950371
I just find it funny that people want to sell commercially viable art and be taken seriously as creators too.
You can't have it both ways.
I'd rather fuck an alien than the nigger.
>>321950448
>It's a AAA game aimed at a large audience
Well that's why its boring, sure.
>>321948341
I really wish people would stop treating games like movies
>>321940691
POO
IN
THE
SPACE
LOO
>>321950462
Whoa, settle down, sperg.
>Mass Effect went into the shit with key people living with each iteration
>key people leaving in the middle of development
oh boy
here we go
>>321940691
Retards will still buy this trash too.
>>321950460
I realize all my spelling mistakes look dumb but I'm on a shitty pad type thing and some of those mistakes werenot there when I posted it. Please dont use it as an excuse to disregared my statement though.
>>321950620
>poos on space street
>poo floats into people's visors
Now that Mad Manesh is running the show, do you think the game will have DESIGNATED SHITTING SOLAR SYSTEMS?
>>321950462
Jesus christ
>the india flaming shitposters are here
Was an *okay* thread while it lasted.
Sweet, this ensures that Hamburger Hepler will have an even bigger hand in the next Mass Effect game.
>>321950993
Thanks senpai I made it myself :-----]
This is actually a shame, I looked through about a year and a half's worth of his tweets and he's not some SJW faggot. Probably got pushed out or fed up with the rest of the company pushing tumblr agendas. Any chance of the game not being another empty, MMO-ish type thing filled with forced gay characters like Inquisition just flew out the window.
>>321950471
well, yeah. at the end of the day the goal is to appeal to the lowest common denominator and go for it
>>321951139
Sure, I understand WHY they do that.
They're too greedy when they want to be seen as good creators and also making the plebe dosh.
>>321950462
Why would you write this? I don't think I'm especially unique nor did I state that. I just wanted to know If others shared my opinion as I haven't heard anyone else state it in a thread or anywhere else.
>>321946680
>>321951218
Because there's a weird gray zone where you can have both. (example: Watchmen)
>>321948341
this but with black people instead of aliens
>>321951121
Yeah, him leaving Bioware is arguably the best endorsement of his character he could have.
>>321948341
Let's be honest here, they aren't really wrong. You need look no further than MMO demographics. The vast majority of people, even when given the option will play human, or at best elves.
>>321951121
You live in such a small world where only your current interest exist.
Astonishing really.
>>321951218
ironically, this means your best bet of seeing true art is actually indi games, because no ones gonna back and fund an entire team to make a full sized triple A game with a near certainty to bomb because it dosent appeal to the lowest common. oh well.
>>321951398
this guy is not me, im not that stupid
>>321951401
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN
>>321947856
>Well last time higher ups left during development of a Bioware game, we got Dragon Age 2.
It was one guy and he left during the development of DAO
By itself this means nothing, especially so far out from release.
>>321951530
Hey, a good video game doesn't have to be good art.
>>321951398
lol
>>321951530
I don't think anyone would mistake us for the same poster, seeing as how you seem to go out of your way to ignore grammar and punctuation.
>>321951465
I don't know what mmo's your playing because that is completley untrue. Hardly anyone plays as the humanoid races specifically because they're uninteresting.
>>321946680
I-is this a shitpost or is the STEM circlejerk really this strong? You know that coders, anyone in the technical field, is way more inconsequential than people in the writing/creative department. They're literally a dime a dozen.
>>321947871
>You will never play as a Collector
Damn it.
>>321946680
This is actually amazing bait. You should be proud.
>>321940691
>Caring at this point.
>>321951910
>I flip burgers and I'm proud
Glad to hear it.Just kidding, I'm a self-hating artist because of the people I met in college mainly.
>>321951690
>It was one guy and he left during the development of DAO
No, he left during the development of DA2, specifically because he didn't like the direction they were taking the game. Pretty vocal about it.
It's too early to say anything, but it's a sign.
And man, I'm still sad about DA2. It was an awful game, but it had good stuff in it.
>Hawke was pretty decent, femhawke was hot
>Story wasn't about a chosen one defeating an Ancient Eviluntil the end of act 3 but that was kind of out of nowhere and not really important
>Qunari redesigns were surprisingly good and the Arishok was a great character
Could have been a great game.
Can't believe normies are already forgiving Bioware for fucking them over
>>321951121
>>321951419
Same fag redditor.
You neckbeards need to leave the house once in a while and realize SJWs don't exist and aren't trying to rape you and your vidya. Faggots.
>>321952081
>normies ever not being retarded
>>321950460
>It would be pretty much the same
Sure but I think it'd be superficial to the point where they'd only switch up character models and maybe add different abilities for each playable race (something already done with the classes).
The problem I see occurring would be in the overall narrative where your chosen race has to play the main role in the story and be represented properly without being a detached force that saves everyone. ME3 sort of addressed this with the whole "save the Earth" theme but if you had the option of playing as another race you likely wouldn't give a fuck about Earth.
It probably can be done but definitely not at the AAA level or dev cycle major studios are aiming for.
>>321952081
Normies liked Mass Effect 3. How else did it manage to sell anything?
>>>321950462
Don't even know if this is pasta
>>321947856
>Well last time higher ups left during development of a Bioware game, we got Dragon Age 2.
And after that we got Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition. Devs abandoning sinking ship means nothing when ship is fucking sinking.
>>321951690
>By itself this means nothing, especially so far out from release.
Really?
They'll bring in a new director, who'll want to put their own stamp on the game, halfway through production, and this won't affect the game?
They don't get a brand-new budget every time a new director comes on board. They've spent a certain amount of their total funds already, so either we'll get:
>a director who scraps everything and starts over, despite losing half their budget in the process
or:
>a game that has a sudden tonal shift halfway through the game, making for a jarring gameplay experience
>>321951906
Any MMO with non-human looking characters, and I can guarantee nobody is playing those races over the more human-like ones.
>>321948341
Then why can the MC be a fag? Gays are less than 1% of the population, I can't relate to that.
>>321952438
>Dragon Age Inquisition
So the best RPG to come out in a while?
>>321951850
yeah, anyone worth their salt in english would be aware of the difference between formal and informal language, and when and where to use them
Is there a single person still working at Bioware who worked on a good game?
>>321951082
She hasn't worked at Bioware in years.
>>321952606
Same reason japs are the most featured Asians in sci-fi despite Mandarin and Tagalog being some of the most spoken languages north america, it's not about what consumers want, it's about what the devs want, and they want desu desu japs and gay queer pansexuals in their game.
>>321951906
[citation needed]
Go look at WoW statistics and then find me an MMO that DOESN'T have a vast majority of the playerbase playing the humanoid/beautiful race.
>>321952870
She literally was second-in-command for DA:I
>>321952759
Best Bing Bang Theory simulator.
>>321951082
Jesus, that's fake right?
>>321952606
Because being a human faggot is still better than being a furfaggot or xeno
>>321952864
Drew Karpyshyn is working at Bioware Austin.
>>321952438
It indicates the ship is still sinking. It even indicates the ship is sinking by the standards of the crew who didn't leave when it started to sink.
I just want to relive the multiplayer again, it was so fun.
>>321946680
Coders can't leave Bioware projects because there ain't any, same goes for gameplay developers.
>>321953018
And she left Bioware in 2013.
>>321953214
Why is /v/ so fucking awful at analogies?
>>321948341
Fuck bioware. Because no one could relate to yoda right? He was completely ignored by audiences. Chewbacca too, and Jabba.
This is just a fucking excuse for devs to be as lazy as they possibly can. Non-humans would generally require more than one template and different voice actors, that's the only reason they dont let you play as non-human aliens in their games. At least own up to it instead of pretending its about "relatablity", faggots.
>>321948341
oh yeah, that's why everybody hated Torment. An ugly near-naked mass of scar tissue who reeks of death and decay? No way a protagonist like that could work.
Did these people even play a video game in their life? In games, the identity of the protagonist is irrelevant. You'll always connect with him because he is your conduit to interact with the world. You could be nothing but a pair of disembodied hands with a personality that you make up in your head, and you'd still hold some attachment to him because it's the only thing you know. That's actually how a lot of games function, some of the most well-liked protagonist have nearly nonexistent personalities which are made up by the player.
This shit isn't that hard. How do people like this even have a job?
If you have any genuine hopes for this game, you really ought to come back down to reality.
Could it be good? Sure, there's a chance. But I don't go out and buy lottery tickets, especially ones that cost 60$+, and I doubt you do either.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
>>321953590
Still humanish.
>>321953214
I literally got high from shit you said.
>>321953590
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that box cover is often blamed for the game's middling success.
>>321953590
you're completely wrong tho
>>321953590
>"how do people like this even have a job?"
Simple my friend, nepotism.
See, the writers and devs simply knew, or knew of, the people that already worked in that field and were given jobs. The guys who started bioware were medical school grads, no one in the industry is actually a fucking professional. This is why the industry is stagnating, at least Hollywood hires people from the outside occasionally, in the game industry you pretty much HAVE to know someone to have a permanent job. That's why we'll never have good writing, there no competition, and therefore natural selection can't weed out the shit writers like David Gaider or the trash devs like Mike Laidlaw.
>>321953289
She left Bioware all right.
>>321954236
>announce Hepler as a stretch goal
>project immediately stops getting funded
Fuck that's amazing
>>321953517
you mean the short green man and the tall hairy man? how can you tell when hes happy? he smiles. why on earth does a creature completely unrelated to humans, have the same human indicator for happiness? because if yoda frowned to indicate he was happy, we wouldnt get it. hes a barely reskinned human man, with small changes. same with chewbacca. what does he do when hes confused? shrug. you ever seen a dog shrug? a cat shrug? THATS alien like. what we have here at best are reskinned humans.
and Torment? hes LITERALLY man shaped, and all his movements and mannerisms are...human. read the first line of the argument. "near enough human"
HEY KIDS IT'S ME, KAI LENG! YOUR FAVORITE VASE PISSING, CEREAL EATING NINJA!
>>321953923
by that standard most of the ME aliens also count as humanish, so there's no reason you can't play as an Asari or Turian.
>>321954236
>>321954305
Yeah, it's one of those things that you always think should happen in a sane world, but would never believe would actually happen.
>>321954321
>what we have here at best are reskinned humans.
So Mass Effect aliens
>>321954384
No, it's not the same standard. I'm personally FOR playing as an alien, but the Nameless one is pretty much a human, just kind of a zombie.
>>321954321
What the fuck are you talking about, retard?
>>321953590
if you're telling you could "connect" with a pc hanar, you're retarded
your argument is shit and immature
>>321954338
My favorite part about this character is most of the ME team hated him as well.
>>321954505
exactly. how am i really expected to believe asari just happen to have the same range of human emotions, movements and physical and verbal tics that humans have? its bullshit, and weak.
>>321954627
something that other people understood, just, not you. bummer dude, sucks that your bad at comprehension.
>>321954647
So who demanded he was put in the game?
>>321954629
The devs weren't talking about the hanar, and neither was that anon, faggot.
They don't want to put playable taurians salarians, asari etc.. In the game as playable because they said people can't connect to them. No ones talking about fucking jellyfish people, you fucking faggot.
>>321949807
Well you have shit taste and your series is actually getting what it deserved.
>>321954760
The same faggot that locked himself in a room and wrote all "3" endings.
>tfw you will never get the perfect Mass Effect game, one that combines the strong points of each entry in the series
>The Story and atmospheric world building as well as planet exploration from ME1
>The customization and side character missions and story development from ME2
>The gameplay from ME3, minus the shitty thermal clip system
I guess its a good thing this died though, would've ended up being a total fucking blunder I'm willing to bet.
>>321954834
I wan to play as a krogan and fuck Salarian bitches with muh dick.
>>321954732
>how am I expected to believe a fictional humanoid character written by humans has human emotions?
You're a fucking retard. Kill yourself, bro.
>>321954338
For all that he's an utter twat throughout the game, and clearly someone at Bioware's self insert OC fanfiction character, they made killing Kai Leng feel really, really good in ME3. Blowing him the fuck out during his "MUEHEHEHE YOU'RE TOO SLOW" monologue, then smashing his faggot-ass sword with your fucking fist before burying a white-hot diamond blade into his ribs? Fucking perfect.
It's one of the things they did right. It's a shame that a game as almost-good as ME3 was so utterly ruined by the laziness of its creators in the final stretch.
>>321951906
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
You might be able to explain the humans with their racial, but why the fuck are there so many Night/Blood Elves then?
>>321954986
oh, wow, you missed the point harder then i thought imaginable.
thats my...point, sir. that they ARE designed with human elements because its designed to appeal to...humans. how do we do that? give them human qualities.
i mean, fucking, wow, man. thanks for...agreeing with me, i guess? wew, lad.
>>321954925
The only way this game can be salvaged is if you fire 80 percent of the devs and all of the writers, then removed the cover based aspect. Even then, I feel like 3 already did way to much damage.
>>321954925
I find myself actually missing the multiplayer from 3. Shooting biotics around cover to knock an enemy prone in the open, then having your teammates mow it down before it can stand? Fucking awesome.
And no rpg class will ever be as fucking fun as the MOTHERFUCKING Vanguard.
If there is another game out there that lets you teleport across the map into a bodycheck like some kind of space hockey player, please tell me its name. I would pay any amount of money to know that feeling again.
>>321951906
your missing the point. the images argument, is that they need to be NEAR human. even the non-humans in the games you, uh, didnt mention, what do they do when they are happy.
smile? find me a mmo where the choosable main player frowns when they get happy. any of them that do no conform to 90% of humans expectations for reactions, activities, likes, dislikes, so on, so fourth.
>>321955401
You're still not making sense, you autistic faggot. How did that post agree with you in any way? You don't even know what your arguing about, go back to reddit.
>>321948341
>tfw I emotionally connect with the droids
>>321955665
i...does anyone else follow this guy at all? do i need to link you my posts, or something, i think you quoted the wrong guy and got lost or something.
>>321954321
and, uh, if this is you, since im no longer sure, i wanna point out that none of those people are the main characters. which again, was the point of the main image. all those characters that got mentioned, chewbaccas, yoda, whatever? they are the companions, or side characters to...luke, a white man. we are talking about PLAYER characters.
can you tell me what YOU think we are talking about here?
>>321956003
ah fuck wrong one. i mean this one
>>321953517
again, no ones arguing you cant have weird aliens in your games. just not as the main PC
>>321947871
I liked being a human when humans were basically second class citizens of the galatic community, but since the series turned into a "humanity fuck yeah" series in 2 and 3 I think it'd be more interesting to play a different species. Especially since Andromeda is about exploring a new galaxy I think it'd be cool as a human playing the game to see a story about two different alien species meeting each other for the first time, rather than just humans meeting aliens which a lot of sci-fi does.
>>321956105
No one wants to play as the weird aliens. The option to play as one of the human-like aliens though, there's no reason that can't be done apart from laziness on the developers part
>>321940691
Old news.
Also he's just some faggot that goes around and makes sure people are working and not goofing off. Nothing of value was lost.I have no fucking faith in bioware
>>321947573
It was dead after the first game.
ME2 wasn't even an RPG, it was a bad FPS with a few dialog options.
>>321956353
>No one wants to play as the weird aliens. The option to play as one of the human-like aliens though, there's no reason that can't be done apart from laziness on the developers part
so...why does having what is basically a human character with an alien humanoid skin slapped over it suddenly make the game more interesting to you?
literally all it changes is the PC model you see on screen. shouldnt you be worrying more about the actual characters themselves and the gameplay, rather than satisfying some kind of weird desire just to play dress up with different skins?
>>321954834
>They don't want to put playable taurians salarians, asari etc.. In the game as playable because they said people can't connect to them
more like they just don't want to spend the resources to do it and why bother? your typical shit head console user doesn't know what a good rpg is
>>321940691
>inquisition 2.0 space boogaloo
>>321956795
>literally all it changes is the PC model you see on screen
Yeah, and? Does what my character look like mean nothing now?
Why not just populate the entire game with humans if it doesn't change anything apart from what they look like
>>321956353
might think im someone else here, i never disputed biowares lazyness or anything. my only argument is that they are pretty much correct on the concept of it needing to be "near human" for the vast majority to relate to it.
which is balls, because i REALLY want to see alien races and such with TRULY different. and while i consider the reapers stupid, technically, they are the most alien thing in the series, because at the end of the day, we simply cannot comprehend their motivations, they are completely alien.
note: im not saying i liked them, im saying they fit the bill as being the least relatable characters in a game. not the PC tho so ...
>>321940691
The game's not even out and the head guy is already abandoning ship. I should be surprised
>>321957007
well, why not? its not changing the asari blue, well, changed anything. they still talk, laugh, love, cry, and have human concepts like honor and crap.
>people actually wanting to play as non humans
If you hate yourself so much why don't you just end it already?
>>321957181
Jesus christ you're retarded.
People expect there to be different races in sci-fi or fantasy games. And so they should, it provides variety, even if it's pretty much only cosmetic.
Cosmetic changes are not meaningless. Otherwise video games wouldn't even have fucking graphics.
>>321957035
>because at the end of the day, we simply cannot comprehend their motivations, they are completely alien.
their motivations seemed pretty comprehendable at the end of the 3rd game
>>321957520
I don't self-insert in video games. So it doesn't matter what kind of character I'm playing, it's not a representation of me.
Self-inserting shows a distinct lack of imagination and creativity. And hinders replayability of RPGs
>>321957656
There's something sad about using video games as a form of escapism.
>>321954925
>as well as planet exploration from ME1
The planet exploration in ME2 was better since it wasn't just the same retextured square mile of terrain with the same ruins, the same mine, the same warehouse.
I do miss the Mako, but the planet missions in 2 felt way more unique.
>>321957902
I agree. It's pretty sad when someone will go and play a game like Mass Effect so can they think "this is what I'd be like if I were a powerful soldier in a sci-fi setting!"
>>321954925
>>The gameplay from ME3, minus the shitty thermal clip system
Minus the shitty orange knife too. Ideal gameplay for me would be a mix of 2 and 3, and a thermal clip HYBRID system that lets you eject clips for sustained quick fire OR let them cool by pacing yourself.
RPG build mechanics wise, I think 3 was the best. The first one felt needlessly granular for me, the third one had a nice balance between the oversimplification of ME2 and the needless "complexity" of ME1.
>>321958107
>>321957656
>>321957902
not really. Plenty of people do a self insert for a first play-through then subsequent playthroughs play as whatever else.
>>321957915
There was no planet exploration in ME2.
>>321957531
okay. i can grab the skin of shephard for you and change the skin tone to like, green, if you want. since that changes everything for you
>>321958251
Yes there was. Just no aimless, empty "open world" planet exploration. The Firewalker bit in the Overlord DLC was better than all the planet exploration in ME1 put together, even if the firewalker itself sucks ass.
>>321957639
were they? i never got past "destroy all humans to save all humans"
>>321958275
its more than just color, it's figure and texture, size and dimensions. All having to do with graphics. Not only that but a races background in relation to our own makes them interesting from a human perspective. Do you understand imagination at all?
>>321958401
Specific linear levels is not exploration.
>>321958578
I'd argue it is.
Is it still exploration when there's nothing new to find, just different textures?
>>321958401
>The Firewalker bit in the Overlord DLC was better than all the planet exploration in ME1 put together
That is absolutely false.
For the most part planet exploration in ME1 may have been boring shit taking place on copy pasted, mostly empty planets. But at least it was actually fucking exploring. You could find cool shit like the pyramid with the memory device thing. Firewalker shit was just go from A to B and shoot some shit
That and the Mako was more fun to drive than the Firewalker.
>>321951082
I knew these people were bad writers, but I didn't think Maradonia bad.
>>321958772
The Firewalker level in Overlord was open, though. Open, actually beautiful to watch, and you could definitely look around for things. And it's not only Firewalker, walking that husk of a spaceship in ME2 actually gave the a feeling of discovery and reward that simply wasn't there by the third map of ME1's planet side missions.
I'll absolutely give you that the Mako was way more fun to drive though.
>>321958486
well, i am arguing that the aliens are never alien enough, so, uh...
>>321958994
>The Firewalker level in Overlord was open, though
It still followed the same procedure. Get to a map marker and blow something up.
>>321958578
I'd say it is exploration, just sucky limited exploration
>>321948871
Then play the Emu you faggot
>>321959116
Oh stop, the maps in ME1 were ROUTINE as fuck. Admittedly they didn't have map markers, but what's the point if there's nothing at all to see EXCEPT the same 3 identical objectives that you see in every other damn retextured planet?
>>321959008
They're alien enough to be different from the vast majority of player's familiar culture. Turian society is pretty different from mine. As is Krogan, Salarian, Asari and Quarian.
They might all have human mannerisms, but they're still different enough.
>>321959162
I'll take sucky limited exploration with variety over open free exploration with none.
>>321947573
Mudslime/10
This is the reason Battlefront was ruined, fucking Sweden, cucks and their nigger women Stormtroopers without helmets instead of actual different types of troopers.
>>321959606
He's not mudslime, he's a poo loo.
>>321959360
So were the maps in ME2. You can't make a blanket statement like
>The Firewalker bit in the Overlord DLC was better than all the planet exploration in ME1 put together
And then complain when it's pointed out they're pretty much the same fucking thing, but with a worse vehicle
>>321959698
>So were the maps in ME2.
Except the map markers in ME2 led to DIFFERENT THINGS, whereas every map in ME1 led to THE SAME RECYCLED FUCKING SHIT.
That's the big, important difference. Also, not all were vehicle based which added to the variety.
>>321959909
>Also, not all were vehicle based
Yeah, some were corridor shooter based.
Amazing.
>>321954338
I'm going to say something right now.
I FUCKING hated this character. SO fucking much. To the point where in both my Paragon runthroughs... this was the ONLY Renegade option I ever chose. To blow him the fuck out.
I am fucking pissed that this abomination was even a thing. The game would have benefited more with his absence.
>>321957915
Yeah it was a convenient straight line from A to B, with waist high barriers along the way which immediately triggered monsters to pop out of thin air.
GREAT DESIGN.
Jackass.
>>321960450
>>321960608
There weren't any monsters in that level you dumb fanboy.
>>321960845
Yeah, the nostalgia bait level didn't have enemies, you're right.
Nice save anon you totally avoided looking like a wrong douche.
>>321940691
It's not the Director, it's the Development Director
Completely different thing to an actual Director
Development Director is more of a management position, not a creative one.
>>321960845
Too bad that mission was DLC only huh
>>321960718
Swear to fuck, I'd stomp his fucking head in over and over.
>>321948659
DERS NOO WAN LIFT IN DEH GALACKSHEE FUR YOO TO SWINDUL
>>321946680
>Shit the director just walked out on the movie!
>Its alright, its not like he's a cameraman or something
>>321950213
>video game
>Art
pick one
>>321961889
I thought Mass Effect was a video game
>>321951082
There're reasons people are a 'video game writer' and not an actual writer.
>>321951082
>high school teacher of astrology
>>321948385
Define salvage, ME2's story was a mess and was focused more on a bunch of disjointed plotlines surrounding your party that later become irrelivant with the plot just sort of happening last minute
>>321959360
>>321958994
>>321958772
Am I missing something here because I remember all the "explorable" planets in ME having markers for all the shit. Sure sometimes it just said "anomaly" or some vague thing but everything was still marked.
Also they might as well have plopped you down in a barren field because most mountains were either just a minor nuisance or forced you to take a tedious path around and featured no additional encounters, mechanics, or even vistas
>>321947573
>>321963975
DESIGNATED
As if anyone had hope for that in the first place.
https://twitter.com/the1wynn/status/352140444852953088
So, he joined Bioware after ME3.
Fucking who is this guy?
I want to know his powerlevel to know how much I will hate Androimeda
>>321951082
Get with the times grandpa, she left Bioware in 2013.
>>321963975
This guy's awesome. We need more people like him who aren't afraid of offending everybody.
Oh wait...white people don't like it when minorities insult them, they want to be the only ones that have the social freedom to insult people. White guys are the most easily offended group, they expect us all accommodate them or else they cry on their 4chan and Reddit safe spaces. White guys are ruining the industry with their fee-fees.
>>321959695
Same shit, he'll probably make it so the character has to go to the designated shitting street when a bar is full
>>321966258
le epic troll fellow reddit memer
>>321966868
10/10 anon
>>321954925
>story development from ME2
>>321940691
any known reason why the guy left?
>>321967264
prob posted a picture of him drinking from a cup with words "black tears" on facebook
