Can we just talk about the complexity of The Witcher 3 vs. the complexity of Fallout 4?
I've heard a lot about The Witcher 3 proving that complex RPGs work as well as the simplified RPG experiences like Fallout 4.
However, after thinking about it for more than a few seconds, it seems like The Witcher 3 is significantly less complex than Fallout 4. There is no character customization, there are less choices in the story, the leveling is just as complex (or otherwise), the combat is even more simple, and there are far less interactions.
Fallout 4 sucks how you compare It with the goty plus new Vegas is better than 4 in all but graphics
>>321830617
>Fallout 4
>RPG
Witcher 3 feels more like an assassins creed than an rpg.
>>321830617
Witcher 3 has way more comlexity, way more space, a way longer, more complex story
fallout looks like shit, runs like shit and its gameplay is heavily limited
>>321830617
>there are less choices in the story
Todd please go.
>>321830926
fallout 4 has more playstyle choices than witcher 3.
>>321831115
>Using different weapons qualifies for RPG mechanics
>>321830617
Witcher 3 is certainly not a complex game.
In fact, it's gameplay is shallow, boring and simplistic.
Arguably, the strength of the game is its character, its art direction.
Still, its definite strength is the look of the wilderness, ruins, and farm towns; they look straight out of a 19 century painting.
This was also true for the previous Witcher games, more so in The Witcher 1, which also had fantastic music.
Fallout 4, on the other hand, is a crappy fps which gives you the opportunity to kill stuff in different ways, which seems like an advantage over Witcher 3.
The thing is that everything in Fallout 4, and Fallout 3 as well, seems aimed at mentally challenged people. It's a retarded game, in every sense. Shitty writing, shitty art direction, shitty voice acting, shitty everything.
Witcher 3 is not as well written as many have said it is, but at least it's not fucking retarded.
>>321831043
It doesnt run like shit you pleb
Also i have an old i5 and a 770
>>321831043
Are you kidding me? Witcher has a much more limited gameplay, in that youre playing as a determined character with a sword and has magic.
>QTE combat
>GTA style open world
>"Complex RPG"
>>321831350
>shitty art direction
You can say that The Witcher 3 has better art direction, but Fallout 4 certainly has wonderful concept art.
>>321831350
I like this post
>>321831350
I bet you think you're Very Smart
>>321831515
If the concept arts don't make into the game as good looking, well designed landscapes, well tough luck, they were pretty much useless.
You can find tons of games which had nice concept art, but not so nice in-game assets.
>>321831250
You can play it stealth, a smoothtalker, a tech specialist, melee only, a sniper, and many more different builds.
But oh boy, a sword and different magics to choose from! Such rpg!
Witcher 3 isn't complex, it just actually tells a good story and has serviceable enough combat/graphics while Fallout 4 has offensively bad writing, mediocre combat/graphics that could be decent but are fucked over by the terrible Engine
>>321830926
>Right to Left
>>321831885
>stealth
barebones system
>smoothtalker
11charisma and all i can do is get more caps from people
>tech specialist
yeah right
>melee only
they downgraded the unarmed and melee from new vegas
>a sniper
Oh woaw, you had to go so low to defend this game
>>321831749
Concept art means jack and shit dumb ass.
>>321831350
The thing about fallout is that it gives you the space to play it how you want it. Inject your own character, you know, roleplay?
>>321832204
newfag
>>321832212
I was in the middle of typing something like this. Ya beat me to it.
>>321832242
Fallout 4 babies think that's what roleplaying is
>>321832212
>Melee in any fallout game
>good
it's all shit anon, at least in 4 they made it slow enough to make it feel like it was a different play style than just porting the system from skyrim.
>>321832283
what of it
>>321830617
Hey Reddit
>>321831350
You know, "shitty" and "retarded" are not actual arguments right?
Haven't played either, but surely this is cherry picking.
>>321832242
The original fallout did this, so did fallout 2. and heck even fallout 3 did this a little bit.
But Fallout 4 doesn't even get the title RPG after the butchering it has done.
IF you reply to this post you will be blessed with a qt gf for the year 2016
>>321832394
They were good in new vegas, you're so desperate to suck Fallout 4 black cock that you'll do anything do defend it's shitty systems.
>>321832242
You can roleplay all you want, but when the experience of playing through the game feels extremely underwhelming due to poor writing and world building, you have to go full autistic to feel involved.
>>321832584
Fallout 4 is an open world first person shooter
They have no right to call it a RPG
>>321830617
Both Fallout 4 and TW3 are very shallow RPGs. TW3 have a little bit more complex quests and story, but still very lackluster when compared with real RPGs (Arcanum, BG2, FO2, etc.).
>>321832762
>FO2
>RPG
>>321831350
Basically this, but you have to admit Witcher 3 is pretty lowbrow too. At least Fallout doesn't pretend its story and writing and more than they are. And Fallout's art direction is excellent, it certainly has a more visually engaging and interactive world than Witcher's generic high fantasy backdrop.
>>321832950
You missed the lore check fgt.
Fallout 2 is an RPG you retard.
>>321833053
Fallout 4 looks like shit, muddy textures, shitty performance for shitty graphics.
>>321830617
>actually comparing the two games at all
Why? Why do you retards do this?
>>321833238
It really doesn't look as bad as people say it does. Same happened at first with Witcher 3 and its "downgraded" graphics, now nobody complains about it.
tfw i like the combat in witcher 3
>>321833053
Actually I mostly didn't like the writing and story of Witcher 3.
It feels somewhere in between epic generic fantasy and trashy medieval sexed-up tv series.
The Witcher went from folkish eastern european to boytoy Geralt and lots of trashy tatoos.
The game is best played as a medieval scenery screenshot simulator.
And no, Fallout 4 does not look more appealing visually than Witcher 3.
>>321833537I like the combat in Fallout 4.
I don't like a lot of the game, but I like the combat.
>>321830617
>tfw I played the shit out of both
>tfw I enjoyed them but am also smart enough to admit that they are mechanical blunders
Can't you do the same, /v/?
>>321833746
No.
If we don't hate everything then we aren't /v/.Fallout 4 was my favorite game of 2015.
>>321833462
Witcher 3 looks a million times better than Fallout 4 and runs better.
>>321830617
>Witcher III
>Complex
Pick one, I'm afraid.
>>321833746
>>321833816
>>>tumblr
>>321834015
i can't tell whether its shitposting anymore
>>321831515
I was surprised by the classical-feeling art direction Fallout 4 had, really felt like they were trying to honor the earlier fallouts, even the T60 felt like it could've fit in 1 or 2.
>>321830617
2 different games.
The Witcher 3 is medieval soap opera and has a 3 act story that is easy to follow, hell it even gives it to you straight. But some of the sidequest are up and down. The world is consistent and all that good stuff, that you usually find in a open world rpg but it has easy mechanics that is streamlined for better or worse.
There are no character customization in the witcher 3 because there where non in the first one.
Fallout 4.
It was OK, I personally did not like it mainly because the perk level system felt broken, also the "voice" and the choices felt like a downgrade from fallout 3. The voice from the main player character did not fit in imo, it was a dick slap in my face.
The good thing it has the typical newer Bethesda open world RPG mechanics where you level up by killing shit and doing sidequest, but the whole thing feels like a sandbox in a good way but the bad thing is the load time per every god damn opening a house, caves or shit of interests.
I dunno maybe I've started to be a Witcher 3 fanboy but I liked that game more than Fallout 4
>>321834804
I see people are experiencing the same Stockholm syndrome many had back when Fallout 3 was released.
Hopefully, you will sooner or later realize what a horrible, horrible game it is.
Witcher 3 and bloodBourne were the two games I invested all of my autism into. Do people really think the Witcher 3 is a complex game? The combat is very simple even if you play on the hardest difficulties. I really don't get why it's compared to souls game play honestly. The story, art direction, and music are all amazing, but I compare the game play to Shadow of Mordor. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but CDPR definitely felt story was the most important part of that game.
>>321836981
It's compared to Souls/Bloodborne combat because it superficially resembles it and took a few cues as well. Either way TW3 and Bloodborne aim for very different goals and are good games in their own right, don't know why people try to make some competition between the two games other than for GOTY.
>>321837567
That makes sense.
